NEW ROM - Password screen keeps appearing

[bjashton]

I've installed the new ROM - so far mostly positive.

There is one thing driving me mad (no not the time on the today screen :-) )


I leave the Jasjar switched on and connected / charging via USB. It stays on OK but keeps going back to the password screen.

What I want is to enter the password when ever it switches on. If the device stays on then I don't want to have to enter a password.


Anyone got any ideas???

[Carnivor]

do you have push mail setup?? if so it could be exchange policy enforcing it.

[bjashton]

do you have push mail setup?? if so it could be exchange policy enforcing it.


No.

[scotjen1]

bjashton

If im correct in what im reading u want to turn off the normal password screen (1 with the big buttons) but just have a password as to say when you switch the phone on like a sim password

[bjashton]

If im correct in what im reading u want to turn off the normal password screen (1 with the big buttons) but just have a password as to say when you switch the phone on like a sim password



More information...

The problem is with the device password - NOT the SIM password which works as expected.

Under...
Settings -> Lock
I have ticked "Prompt if device is unused for" and set the time to 0 minutes.

In the previous ROM this meant that when-ever the device is switched off / on it would prompt for the password. However if the device stays on, for example when it's connected to external power then it just stays on - the password screen never appears.

In the new ROM after 1 minute without being used it reverts to the password screen. If you change the "Prompt if device is unused for" time as above then you can make this longer but then you lose the benefit of the switch-on password for this ammount of time.


What I want...
If you turn the device off it prompts for password when you turn it back on.
If the device stays on it never prompts for a password.


I suspect this is a side effect of the new security features that allow IT administrators to set a password timeout. They probably wouldn't want the user bypassing this by leaving the device on. However they have chosen what to me is a strange behavior for "0 minutes" with a timeout of 1 minute when the device is on.

[Biso007]

do you have push mail setup?? if so it could be exchange policy enforcing it.


No.

even without push email ... once your administrator decides to install Exchange SP2 the e-mail sync won't work without password setup unless he manaully disable it (the default is simple PIN and time is 5 minutes).

[2manytoys]

Has anyone found a solution to this problem?

It's driving me nuts so I've had to turn the password feature off, but I'd really like to be able to turn it back on.

Thanks guys.

[gigino]

Hello everybody,

still no solution for this password problem.

I'm having the same problem since upgrading the rom on the tek 9000.

Even if you are using the TOM TOM the pda after about a minute it reverts back to the password screen.

Anybody??????????????????????

Ciao

Gigino

[ks2k]

try the new orange or jasjar rom.

[xanth]

try the new orange or jasjar rom.

I can confirm the Orange UK 1.30.90 WWE ROM contains the same behaviour :-(

[iosub]

Hello everybody,

still no solution for this password problem.

I'm having the same problem since upgrading the rom on the tek 9000.

Even if you are using the TOM TOM the pda after about a minute it reverts back to the password screen.

Anybody??????????????????????

Ciao

Gigino


yes, with tomtom it makes very hard to keep writing the password when you are driving.. There must be a solution!!

[gigino]

Hello everybody,

looks like nobody has find a solution to this problem yet.

Lets try to keep this thread open to see if anybody while come up with an idea.

Have a Good Easter everyone.

Ciao

Gigino

[Taz69]

Not a complete fix but you could set the timeout to something like an hour.

I've got the password set on mine and don't find it too intruative with a decent timeout set.

I'd guess that it doesn't activate with certain apps as I've not noticed it locking with TCPMP though I may just end up pausing it before the timeout occurs and resetting the countdown.

[TRJS]

Ok, after being extremely peeved about this bug I just found a solution that works fine, at least on my Universal:

http://www.pdagold.com/software/detail.asp?s=221

This official M$ password utility from the stone age of Pocket PCs works as it should. (Just remember to turn off the WM5-password lock before turning on the old password utility.)

[gigino]

Hello every1

after a lot of searching for the past month after I did the Rom upgrade on my Qtek 9000 I've find the solution to stop the Password screen to appear when you are using TOM TOM Navigator 5.

Go to this URL and you well find the instraction on how to do it.

http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=51293

Hope this well be helpful to someone.

I've been using it for a month now and it works fine.

Ciao

Gigino

[gibbsy]

That fix is too complicated for me.
Anyone else got a simpler solution?
This password reset is driving me nuts too!
If Windows Mobile 5 is supposed to be more secure, this just makes me want to turn the password option off - making it less secure!!

[Mutant]

I have a fix! (I think)

1. Get a registry editor (I used minied of sourecforge.net, because its opensource, but there are many others available)

2. Go to the following key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Security\LASSD\AE\{50C1337 7-C66D-400C-889E-C316FC4AB374}

- The value called AEFrequencyType will be 1. Change it to 2.
- Ensure the value called AEFrequencyValue is 0

Exit the editor and reset the device.

From now the device should only lock to the password screen when the power shuts off, as per pre-AUK2 behaviour.

Note that if you go in to the lock settings screen, it will try to change the AEFrequencyType value back to 1. Also, this will *not* work if you have an Exchange 2003 enforced policy for this setting active. The policy will overwrite it.

[gibbsy]

Mine says ASFrequencyType\0 (0x0)
Is this what I edit?
When I click to edit, I have options of 'New DWORD' or 'New String'
Not sure what to do now.
Any idea please?

[Mutant]

Which registry editor are you using? It sounds like when you're clicking, it's trying to create a new value, possibly the default value for the key, rather than edit the existing AEFrequencyType value. Most registry editors have a tree structure of the keys in the left hand or upper pane, and the list of values in the right or lower pane. Make sure you have the value highlighted in the right or lower pane before you click edit.

First though, my apologies, one step I missed: Before you do the registry edit part, make sure you have set a password and set the device to prompt if device unused for 0 minutes in Settings -> Lock.

Lastly, can you clarify - is the ASFrequencyType or AEFrequencyType you've got in your registry?

[toneslee]

hey "Mutant"....I just tried your method by changing the registry AEFrequencyType from 1 to 2, and it seems to be working fine, thanks a lot. Have you up to now, found any other problems?

[pug]

For those without registry editors, you can try the attached CAB file.
Just set your password, run the CAB then reset your device. These must be performed in this order.