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madcapmagician
15-03-2006, 02:13 AM
OK, I understand how to do it with either the NoID updater or with HTC64 - that's not the problem...

What I want to know is this: if I change the Orange ROM to the latest i-Mate ROM, what happens to all the Orange network settings? Will I lose them or will the update only affect OS-type things?

Alternatively, which files in the Orange ROM will I need to replace in the i-Mate ROM (if I cook up a ROM of my own) in order to get the speed of the i-Mate ROM with all the Orange settings?

Jorgee
15-03-2006, 02:35 AM
OK, I understand how to do it with either the NoID updater or with HTC64 - that's not the problem...

What I want to know is this: if I change the Orange ROM to the latest i-Mate ROM, what happens to all the Orange network settings? Will I lose them or will the update only affect OS-type things?

Alternatively, which files in the Orange ROM will I need to replace in the i-Mate ROM (if I cook up a ROM of my own) in order to get the speed of the i-Mate ROM with all the Orange settings?

I guess it depends on which settings. If you are talking about mobile operator settings (like MMS, SMS, GPRS) then they are normally stored in a cab file in the extended ROM so all you have to do is copy the Orage extendedrom to your hard drive, flash the imate ROM, then install the appropriate cab file from the orange rom by copying it to the sd card and double clicking.

If you are talking about other settings (Wallpaper, splash screens, etc.) then this is ROM specific.

I may be wrong but I guess this is how it is.

madcapmagician
15-03-2006, 02:40 AM
It's just mobile operator settings I'm after.

I'm worried that once I install the i-Mate ROM I won't be able to use my phone. I know there's a long post that gives all the Orange settings but it just seems silly to have to enter them manually if there's a cab file that does it all for you, you know?

Thinking about it, could I install the i-Mate ROM then run the appropriate Orange cab file?

Jorgee
15-03-2006, 03:07 AM
I believe that's what i said in my message :roll:

Hehe these settings are stored in your extendedROM. Do you know how to access ExtendedROM?

Give me a list of the files you have there.....I'm sure you can spot the operator settings. Or if you want, install Imate ROM then bypass it's extendedROM then install all orange CAB files that you transfered from ExtendedROM of orange to the PC.

madcapmagician
15-03-2006, 11:18 AM
Yes, I've already got the Extended ROM visible and writable.

This is the complete list of CAB files in the SPV M5000 Extended ROM:

CAB-Customization-OrangeUK-Universal-01-05-15Aug05.CAB
CAB-Shortcut-Orange-19Aug05.CAB
Enable_VT_RTPlugin_0727_2_signed.CAB
Signed_DiscoButton8.sa.CAB
Signed_Orange_SuspendResume.sa.CAB
Signed_Orange_UAString.sa.CAB
Signed_ORUK_Conn.sa.CAB
Signed_ORUK_Customize.sa.CAB
Signed_ORUK_HomeScreenReg.sa.CAB
Signed_ORUK_SoundSetting_USSDAlarm.CAB
Signed_ORUK_Version.sa.CAB
Signed_pIE_Fav.sa.CAB
Signed_SSD_BTUR_Patch_For_BT_Cannot_Initial.sa.CAB
Signed_SSD_Shortcut_WWE.sa.CAB
Signed_SSD_WLanMgr_Orange_Icon_WWE.sa.CAB
Signed_UNI_pIE_View_Set.sa.CAB
UI_Orange_UK_0727.cab
UNI_BrowserPerformance.sa.CAB
UNI_Orange_2G3G_icon.sa.CAB

Jorgee
15-03-2006, 12:29 PM
How about this, try this:

1. Install Imate ROM
2. Unlock/Unhide ExtendedROM
3. Delete Imate ExtendedROM and copy everything from the Orange ExtendedROM
4. Hard Reset

This will install the orange extended ROM

Now if you get some trouble with security/signing, there is a cab file in the XDA DEV ftp site that can handle this.... Just make the extended rom run this first before everything else.


OR

Just hard reset, bypass extended rom install, unlock/unhide extended ROM and then click on the files one at a time :D

Jorgee
15-03-2006, 12:29 PM
How about this, try this:

1. Install Imate ROM
2. Unlock/Unhide ExtendedROM
3. Delete Imate ExtendedROM and copy everything from the Orange ExtendedROM
4. Hard Reset

This will install the orange extended ROM

Now if you get some trouble with security/signing, there is a cab file in the XDA DEV ftp site that can handle this.... Just make the extended rom run this first before everything else.


OR

Just hard reset, bypass extended rom install, unlock/unhide extended ROM and then click on the files one at a time :D

quietmoney
15-03-2006, 04:01 PM
Hi Guys,

New here , so please forgive all stupidity....

I've got the new jasjar rom, about to flash my Orange SPV M5000, I'm currently running it without the orange customization, ie, i hard reset, reloaded the rom, then soft reset to avoid orange rubbish being, loaded, then manually reset the gprs etc,
If i flash the jasjar, will i get the same situation, but a quicker phone?

Any ideas?

Thanks,

James

madcapmagician
15-03-2006, 05:18 PM
Er....why did no-one mention that after installing the i-Mate ROM the phone then asks which operator you're with and then sets itself up accordingly?

:shock:

phupton
15-03-2006, 05:22 PM
Im an M5000 owner too that was wondering about flashing to the imate rom...

Im after the microsoft direct push client thats on the new imate rom.

quietmoney
15-03-2006, 05:22 PM
OK, plucked up the courage to upgrade to the jasjar rom, but I get a country ID error message,

Any ideas?

James.

madcapmagician
15-03-2006, 05:25 PM
Did you put the PPC in bootloader mode first?

Did you use MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe?

quietmoney
15-03-2006, 05:28 PM
No, where do i get that from?

i just ran the jasjar rom exe....

Any ideas now?

J.

madcapmagician
15-03-2006, 05:36 PM
Extract all the files from the Jasjar .exe file to one folder with WinZip.

Replace "ROMUpgradeUt.exe" with "MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe" - you'll find it below.

Disconnect your phone from the USB cable.

Press and hold LIGHT + POWER + RESET until the screen goes white and it says "serial" at the top.

Plug in the USB cable. "Serial" will change to USB.

Double-click on "MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe" - the PC and phone will do the rest.

If you get a country error, just repeat the process.

pjfdias
15-03-2006, 05:58 PM
where can I download the imate extended rom and the orange extended rom?

quietmoney
15-03-2006, 06:41 PM
thanks for that, i've opened with Win Rar and got two folders OutputFile and RUU_Tools.
Sound right?
Then I drop the maupgrade app into RUU/Universal/WWE?

All good?

Thanks,

J.

quietmoney
15-03-2006, 06:45 PM
Also, if i run the ma upgrade , nothing happens.....get the run dialog, then nothing.........

Ideas?

Ta,

J.

Jorgee
15-03-2006, 07:23 PM
Also, if i run the ma upgrade , nothing happens.....get the run dialog, then nothing.........

Ideas?

Ta,

J.

Copy everything from the 2 folders into one folder then run the maupgrade from there.

Rememebr to be in bootloader mode before running MAUPGRADE and remove the SD card before upgrading

pjfdias
15-03-2006, 08:50 PM
I have upgraded the Rom on my SPV M5000 with the Imate ROM but lost all the Orange settings.

Can I get it back?

Jorgee
15-03-2006, 08:58 PM
I have upgraded the Rom on my SPV M5000 with the Imate ROM but lost all the Orange settings.

Can I get it back?

Did you backup to your PC the Orange ExtendedROM? The Settings customizations were there.

If not try the XDA DEV FTP site. THey have extendedROM's there for download. Don't know if they have Orange ROM but just download it then put in SD card and run the appropriate CAB file.

Check the wiki of xda dev for instructions on how to connect to FTP site

pjfdias
15-03-2006, 09:15 PM
I have upgraded the Rom on my SPV M5000 with the Imate ROM but lost all the Orange settings.

Can I get it back?

Did you backup to your PC the Orange ExtendedROM? The Settings customizations were there.

If not try the XDA DEV FTP site. THey have extendedROM's there for download. Don't know if they have Orange ROM but just download it then put in SD card and run the appropriate CAB file.

Check the wiki of xda dev for instructions on how to connect to FTP site

Firts, thanks for your help.

I have done what you said, now where do I put these files?

Jorgee
15-03-2006, 09:54 PM
I have upgraded the Rom on my SPV M5000 with the Imate ROM but lost all the Orange settings.

Can I get it back?

Did you backup to your PC the Orange ExtendedROM? The Settings customizations were there.

If not try the XDA DEV FTP site. THey have extendedROM's there for download. Don't know if they have Orange ROM but just download it then put in SD card and run the appropriate CAB file.

Check the wiki of xda dev for instructions on how to connect to FTP site

Firts, thanks for your help.

I have done what you said, now where do I put these files?

If by files you mean the Orange ExtendedROM, just dump all cab files to a directory in your SD card, then use file explorer of the PDA to run them

sbrewster
15-03-2006, 10:10 PM
After successfully applying the latest i-mate rom if you copy the following cab file "Signed_ORUK_Conn.sa.CAB" to the m5000 then run, this will restore all the orange connection based settings.

ftp://xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Universal/Extended_ROMs/Orange_Extended_ROM/Signed_ORUK_Conn.sa.CAB

note after flashing with the i-mate rom simply cancel out of the provider set-up to avoid setting up other connection profiles which aren't needed on the orange network.

Orange will be releasing the M5000 rom in the next few weeks so would advise to hold off if you can wait that long!

sbrewster
15-03-2006, 10:12 PM
After successfully applying the latest i-mate rom if you copy the following cab file "Signed_ORUK_Conn.sa.CAB" to the m5000 then run, this will restore all the orange connection based settings.

ftp://xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Universal/Extended_ROMs/Orange_Extended_ROM/Signed_ORUK_Conn.sa.CAB

note after flashing with the i-mate rom simply cancel out of the provider set-up to avoid setting up other connection profiles which aren't needed on the orange network.

Orange will be releasing the M5000 rom in the next few weeks so would advise to hold off if you can wait that long!

madcapmagician
15-03-2006, 10:22 PM
Orange will be releasing the M5000 rom in the next few weeks so would advise to hold off if you can wait that long!

:D Too late! :D

edgley
15-03-2006, 11:46 PM
me to, i just used the orange setting when it asked and all worked okay for me.

Morituri
16-03-2006, 07:45 PM
Hello,

A question to all that have changed from the Orange Rom to the IMate one:

Did you use the lastest ROM with push e-mail

and

Have you noticed any benefit / changes / detractions?

Cheers

neilhart
17-03-2006, 01:15 PM
I have now managed to get my SPV M5000 working with A2DP, using the T-Mobile ROM. I also managed to avoid the machine installing any of the nonsense that comes with it by editing the config file in the extended rom to simply reset the device. I've also managed to the get the device working fine on the Orange network using the Signed_Orange_SuspendResume.sa.CAB
file. However:

I would like to know what all the other Orange files in the extended rom do, so I know if I need to install them. Some are clear by the file name, but many are not.

Can anyone shed any light on this?

Thanks,

Neil

diggy
18-03-2006, 02:30 PM
New Orange M5000 rom is now out there peeps. As good as imate but less hastle for all us M5000 users.

http://www.business.orange.co.uk/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Business%2FDevices&c=PaDPage&cid=1044130840493&mid=1044129390154_1

neilhart
18-03-2006, 09:25 PM
Yeah, but does the new Orange ROM include A2DP?

diggy
19-03-2006, 11:29 AM
Not tried

madcapmagician
19-03-2006, 12:14 PM
Yeah, but does the new Orange ROM include A2DP?

No, just AKU2.