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dreamtheater39
16th March 2006, 03:19 PM
The subject says it all!!!

Now that's one worthwhile update really!
I'm just loving the directpush technology....its just amazing! I guess its goodbye RIM....wonder how bberry is going to differenciate....!

The battery life is phenomenal....a whole day of use with direct push enabled and gprs always on, my battery is down to just 53%.....mind blowing!

way to go!
Cheers,
San

numanoids
16th March 2006, 03:47 PM
I agree, Direct Push is pretty good and I've heard whispers in my company that we might be rolling it out in the near future.

however you said a day's worth of use brings it down to 53%.

This seems a bit heavy to be honest, I've had use of a blackberry for a few weeks and i'm pretty sure it didnt drain as fast as that.

Overall though I'm very happy with the new functionality.

beginner
16th March 2006, 04:30 PM
I agree, Direct Push is pretty good and I've heard whispers in my company that we might be rolling it out in the near future.

however you said a day's worth of use brings it down to 53%.

This seems a bit heavy to be honest, I've had use of a blackberry for a few weeks and i'm pretty sure it didnt drain as fast as that.

Overall though I'm very happy with the new functionality.

I have a doubt about the push mail configuration. If you select to syncronize when "as items arrive" it asks for a for a delivery address information for the device, do you know which is this address? I suppose is related to sms, but I don't know and asked vodafone, they didn't know what to say.

siezear
16th March 2006, 05:28 PM
I have a doubt about the push mail configuration. If you select to syncronize when "as items arrive" it asks for a for a delivery address information for the device, do you know which is this address? I suppose is related to sms, but I don't know and asked vodafone, they didn't know what to say.

It sounds like you are talking about the old system - I.e. Where it required an sms address and then the servered sent you a hidden sms which your phone used as a trigger to sync with the server. (I never bothered trying to get that set up because I can't see the point in paying 10p for the sms + the data charge just to each email more tha every 5 minutes.

Direct push on the other-hand is supposed to work by your device creating a secure http connection to the server, which is kept open on both sides, but no data is sent until a message arrives at the exchange, at which point it is transmitted down this connection. This completely cuts out the sms.

I can't wait till O2 release a new rom with the direct push stuff - it may be worth going with the jasjar rom just to get it.

Cheers

beginner
16th March 2006, 05:32 PM
I have a doubt about the push mail configuration. If you select to syncronize when "as items arrive" it asks for a for a delivery address information for the device, do you know which is this address? I suppose is related to sms, but I don't know and asked vodafone, they didn't know what to say.

It sounds like you are talking about the old system - I.e. Where it required an sms address and then the servered sent you a hidden sms which your phone used as a trigger to sync with the server. (I never bothered trying to get that set up because I can't see the point in paying 10p for the sms + the data charge just to each email more tha every 5 minutes.

Direct push on the other-hand is supposed to work by your device creating a secure http connection to the server, which is kept open on both sides, but no data is sent until a message arrives at the exchange, at which point it is transmitted down this connection. This completely cuts out the sms.

I can't wait till O2 release a new rom with the direct push stuff - it may be worth going with the jasjar rom just to get it.

Cheers

I'm sorry asking again about this question but in order to have clear idea, do you mind to put same mail address in the request of "delivery address" as you have for exchange?

thanks.

numanoids
16th March 2006, 05:42 PM
You do not put anything in for the address - this is for systems using pre SP2 push technology or systems that will not allow an incoming connection and wish to continue to use the AUTD (or auto up to date) system. This involves the exhange system sending an email to an address that then sends an SMS to your device - this then initiates the sync.

SP2 push, as stated before relies on a persistent HTTP(S) connection to the exchange server.

Try it without anything in the address field and see if it works - if not then check that the exchange system you are accessing has been set up to take advantage of the new push update technology.

durius
16th March 2006, 05:46 PM
Escuse my question but which ROM version are we talking about?

dreamtheater39
16th March 2006, 08:42 PM
Escuse my question but which ROM version are we talking about?

1.30.76 ROM
1.09 Radio


For those of you whose mail servers dont have ms exchange, you can use a free trial with 4smartphone.net for 15 days and hook it up to any of your email accounts. Works like a charm! (thanks Carnivor for suggesting 4smartphone!)

Cheers!
San

beginner
16th March 2006, 09:12 PM
Escuse my question but which ROM version are we talking about?

1.30.76 ROM
1.09 Radio


For those of you whose mail servers dont have ms exchange, you can use a free trial with 4smartphone.net for 15 days and hook it up to any of your email accounts. Works like a charm! (thanks Carnivor for suggesting 4smartphone!)

Cheers!
San

It's a good idea except for people like me that our corporate exchange has a rule that doesn't support to forward messages automatically outside. :evil:

lie_ui
16th March 2006, 09:34 PM
does it mean the client device has to be always connected to the internet? (through any connections: GPRS. wifi, dial up). I thought it should work even its not connected sometimes?

lie_ui
16th March 2006, 09:39 PM
The battery life is phenomenal....a whole day of use with direct push enabled and GPRS always on, my battery is down to just 53%.....mind blowing!


I experienced the opposite. Since mine upgraded, I have poor battery life. Not sure why. My device is now very fast. But battery life is decreased.
From 8 -12, only with phone and BT on, the battery drops to 50%.

I also noticed that the BT connection drops once in a while. So far I had about 5 times drop for thepast week.

dreamtheater39
17th March 2006, 04:45 AM
does it mean the client device has to be always connected to the internet? (through any connections: GPRS. wifi, dial up). I thought it should work even its not connected sometimes?

Yes, you have to be connected to the internet in some manner for it to work. However, when you use GPRS to stay connected, it doesnt drain your battery to the magnitude you'd expect. Thats because MS has implemented a new way of sending out data, and the battery drains only when it does heavy transfer (which is not the case). Also, a whole day of usage has costed me just 180KB for heartbeat only (i subtracted the mail sizes approximately...)

Its an excellent solution in my regard! I sent a few test mails from my laptop, and i was astonished to see them arrive within 5-10 seconds after the mail was sent! I guess its flawless :)


Cheers!
San

pukka
17th March 2006, 10:20 AM
i have found the direct push a charm, i am using about 1mb per day. battery drain is no worse. i normally get the email on my pda before outlook picks the mail up :D

Paul

adonker
17th March 2006, 12:29 PM
Is there any documentation about the Push email technollogy? Manual? do i need to have a exchange server in order to be able to use Push mail, or can it be done using my proviser's email server?

regards

Arjan :arrow: