T-Mobile USA 2.17 ROM (Custom)

[xelencin]

Here is a custom 2.17 ROM featuring a couple of T-Mobile USA customizations and more. This installer includes CID-UNLOCK if needed and will flash the phone in full for you automatically using RUU.

[ ROM Versions ]

IPL: 2.17
SPL: 2.17
OS: 2.17.7.2
GSM: 02.07.10

[ Extended ROM ]

Cert_Disable.cab – Disables certification requirement for CAB installers.
Java_Shortcut.cab – Creates shortcut to MIDlet Manager.
Pocket_Commander.cab – Advanced file management and registry editor. This can be uninstalled.
Remove_Power_Tray_Icon.cab – Removes the battery tray icon as it is in the taskbar now.
Smart_Dialing_Enable.cab – Enables Smart Dialing.
T-Jingle.cab – T-Mobile Jingle Ringtone.
T-Mobile_DAT_MailTrigger.cab – My E-Mail configuration client. This can be uninstalled.
T-Mobile_Data_Customizations.cab – GPRS/MMS/IE settings and customizations.
Wizard_Registry_Tweaks.cab – Enable Cap/Sym keyboard icons, hide SIM contacts, enable EDGE icon, disable message sent notification. This can be uninstalled.

[ Download ]

Filename: CUSTOM_RUU_Prodigy_2170702_217_20710_TMO_US.exe

For now it can be found at: ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/HTC_Wizard

Hopefully it will be moved to: ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Wizard/Roms/Tmobile

[ Credits ]
- itsme for "itsutils"
- MachinaGOD for "RAPI Unlocker"
- MachinaGOD for "HTC Wizard Unlocker"
- Button for the inspiration
- xda-developers.com forums

If you want to go back to the original T-Mobile USA ROM then you can check out my other custom installer in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44541

[BrightMoonHeart]

Hi, will u pls tell me something about this ROM, I'm wondering what are the original parts of the combination -- IPL, SPL, Radio and OS. Is there a offical release of the T-mobile US ROM of 2.17.x? thx in advance.

[Genesis3]

The upload directory path is not accessible.

[BrightMoonHeart]

The upload directory path is not accessible.

It could be reached, I've already downloaded one copy.

[billho]

Check the link please. The file could not be found on ftp

[xelencin]

Someone deleted all the uploads on xda-dev. I will be uploading the files to http://xelencin.shackspace.com/ruu since xda-dev's ftp server seems to be unstable right now. If anyone wants to grab these and host them on their own for everyone else I would greatly appreciate it.

The filesizes are:
CUSTOM_RUU_Prodigy_1081002_108_10910_TMO_US.exe: 49,624,050 bytes
CUSTOM_RUU_Prodigy_2170702_217_20710_TMO_US.exe: 52,143,410 bytes

[xelencin]

Hi, will u pls tell me something about this ROM, I'm wondering what are the original parts of the combination -- IPL, SPL, Radio and OS. Is there a offical release of the T-mobile US ROM of 2.17.x? thx in advance.

The ipl, spl, radio and os all come from the qtek 2.17 rom. The htc logo and splash come from the t-mobile usa rom. The extended rom is my own creation. There is no offical 2.17 rom for t-mobile, they are rather slow at these things.

[Troy]

For what it's worth, I was just trying to download these files, and when the download completed, I ran it and got a corrupted file error. I look at the FTP server again, and the file have disappeared! Someone is deleting the files, it appears.

[hugebigfatrhino]

I've hosted the files here:

http://www.joystig.com/wizard.htm

[wgary]

Does this have the new Comm Manager that came with TMO?

[jonazen]

Sounds great... What is NOT in this that was in the stock ROM load? How far off will it be from the T-Mobile version that shipped with the MDA?

Also - any comparisons in terms of:
- amount of storage the two versions take?
- program memory/storage? (never enough!)
- speed / performance

TIA...

[JonnoB]

ahhh, I flashed one of my two devices (my wife's) Qtek 9100 and now it just boots and reboots over and over. Ok, without being able to establish an activesync connection, how do I flash it back? My phone is running the Qtek 9100 AKU2 release just fine. I should have just done the same to hers.

[BrightMoonHeart]

Hi, will u pls tell me something about this ROM, I'm wondering what are the original parts of the combination -- IPL, SPL, Radio and OS. Is there a offical release of the T-mobile US ROM of 2.17.x? thx in advance.

The ipl, spl, radio and os all come from the qtek 2.17 rom. The htc logo and splash come from the t-mobile usa rom. The extended rom is my own creation. There is no offical 2.17 rom for t-mobile, they are rather slow at these things.

thx for your response

[jonazen]

ahhh, I flashed one of my two devices (my wife's) Qtek 9100 and now it just boots and reboots over and over. Ok, without being able to establish an activesync connection, how do I flash it back? My phone is running the Qtek 9100 AKU2 release just fine. I should have just done the same to hers.

Not sure where to find it...but I've read a few posts that, as I recall, tell you how to get into the boot loader of the MDA, and proceed to reload the firmware from there. I'd do some searching around here - I suspect you'll find somebody (or an older post) that can help you get the toasted MDA back up to snuff...

[MrDva]

The Newer ROM is up and working great so far...

The Original T-Mobile ROM seems to be corrupted and not available on the different links provided.

[JonnoB]

bootloader: hold the camera or recorder button in while resetting... then run an RUU. I had to run through many old incarnations and slowly update the device. I won't be trying a custom rom again.

[jonazen]

bootloader: hold the camera or recorder button in while resetting... then run an RUU. I had to run through many old incarnations and slowly update the device. I won't be trying a custom rom again.

You got it working though?

I understand the feeling... much as I'd like to try a newer ROM, I'm thinking that I'll probably wait a bit to see if T-Mobile comes out with an official release soon. Maybe it's silly of me...but I'd rather be in a position where they'll still fix or replace the phone if their own firmware load messes up my MDA. I've done a bunch of firmware updates to various devices over the years, and still find that I hold my breath while doing it. Don't need any extra problems just now, and my MDA is working really nicely for the moment, even loaded up with Wisbar Advance, PocketBreeze, ContactBreeze, iLauncher and some nice skins. I'd like some more memory, but the whole thing seems stable throughout the day, and responsive...so I think I'll leave well enough along for now!

[JonnoB]

You got it working though?


Yes, thank goodness... but the phone is without some important things. Of course, like me, her phone was/is using push email, so she gets the most critical stuff back immediately, but custom app settings, etc are gone. I did have a recent SPB Backup... and all restores ok except for System Data. When restoring that part, the system will freeze and restart and then I have to hard reset. I wish I could do a more finely tuned custom restore and narrow down the troublesome part of the restore. Oh well, now to reinstall all of the apps that were on here.

[andyl8u]

I just flash this rom and everything seems fine but when I try to connect to the edge network, it won't connect. I have the 29.99 plan. How do I fix this problem?

[andyl8u]

I just flash this rom and everything seems fine but when I try to connect to the edge network, it won't connect. I have the 29.99 plan. How do I fix this problem?

Never mind. It's working now. Thanks.

[jonazen]

You got it working though?


Yes, thank goodness... but the phone is without some important things. Of course, like me, her phone was/is using push email, so she gets the most critical stuff back immediately, but custom app settings, etc are gone. I did have a recent SPB Backup... and all restores ok except for System Data. When restoring that part, the system will freeze and restart and then I have to hard reset. I wish I could do a more finely tuned custom restore and narrow down the troublesome part of the restore. Oh well, now to reinstall all of the apps that were on here.

Your experience brings back too many memories for me! Think I'll wait for a bit...no urgency to modify my setup today. I'd love to know why it is that some people experience a painless firmware load, and others have the kind of troubles you report - I don't see a clear pattern - and I'd feel a lot more comfortable reloading my own phone if I could be more confident that it didn't have the chance of turning into one of Dr Frankenstein's projects... For the moment, I'll wait and watch...

[iamodogg]

hey, i put this on my phone to cure some issues, and it did with flying colors.

Just wanted to note this post:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=252403#252403


Thanks!

[darkjedi]

can someone do this for the Cingular rom?

[melvynadam]

You say you're giving credit to Button for inspiration. I currently use the ROM he posted here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37980&highlight=rom) and would like to know what benefits I'd get by changing to the one from this thread.
Can anyone tell me succinctly what's to be gained by switching? I see the increase in version numbers but it doesn't tell me anything.

[xelencin]

You say you're giving credit to Button for inspiration. I currently use the ROM he posted here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37980&highlight=rom) and would like to know what benefits I'd get by changing to the one from this thread.
Can anyone tell me succinctly what's to be gained by switching? I see the increase in version numbers but it doesn't tell me anything.

If you have T-Mobile USA I'd say go for it. Its the latest ROM version, it runs fast and snappy, and it has the T-Mobile USA data settings and boot/splash screens so it looks like a branded device. I didn't include all the useless tmobile customizations though.

[melvynadam]

Are you saying that this is of no value if I'm not in the USA?

[xelencin]

Are you saying that this is of no value if I'm not in the USA?

Correct. You'd be better off loading the qtek 2.17 rom, as that is what my package was created from.

[crux]

You say you're giving credit to Button for inspiration. I currently use the ROM he posted here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37980&highlight=rom) and would like to know what benefits I'd get by changing to the one from this thread.
Can anyone tell me succinctly what's to be gained by switching? I see the increase in version numbers but it doesn't tell me anything.

If you have T-Mobile USA I'd say go for it. Its the latest ROM version, it runs fast and snappy, and it has the T-Mobile USA data settings and boot/splash screens so it looks like a branded device. I didn't include all the useless tmobile customizations though.

What were the useless customizations that you left out? Am I able to get them again if I were to want any of it?

[gamejester]

Can you tell me how to create a custom ROM for T-Mobile UK, similar to your T-Mobile USA ROM. I too want to load the latest Q-Tec 2.17 ROM but want to retain as much useful T-Mobile stuff as possible and ensure GPRS, MMS and email still work.

The connects of the UK-extended ROM are, not sure what they all do, are they similar to the US and do you have a link to info on what they are do:

AutoRun.exe
CAB-Customization-Connection-TMUK-Wizard-Aug08.CAB
CAB-Customization-TMUK-Wizard-01-04-03Oct05.CAB
CAB-Customization-WapPush-TMO-Wizard-Sep02-1.CAB
CAB-DATEamil-Wizard-TMOUK-04Aug05-DataBase.CAB
CAB-Shortcut-TMOUK-03Oct05.CAB
Config.txt
cusTSK.exe
OemExtDll.dll
Signed_BeepMode_Longtones.sa.CAB
Signed_DiscoButton8.sa.CAB
Signed_ExtendedROM_Version.CAB
Signed_TMO_CameraDriverPatch.sa.CAB
Signed_TMO_EU_UA_051003.sa.CAB
Signed_TMUK_Cust_Wiz03000100.sa.CAB
Signed_WifiSSID.sa.cab
Signed_Wiz_NoGPRSAutoattach.sa.CAB
Signed_Wiz_TMO_STK.sa.CAB
SmartDialing_enable_0915_signed.CAB
TMO_UK_Browser_Signed.cab
TMO_UK_pIEDefaultPage_Signed.CAB
TMO_UK_UXC_Signed.cab
TMO_WallPaper.bmp
UNI_BrowserPerformance.sa.CAB
WifiTempOFF.exe
WifiTempON.exe

[jklny]

Xelencin,

Does this have AKU2 - I need the direct push. Thanks for the hard work!

[Sleuth255]

So the Cert_Disable cab will CID unlock the new Qtek Rom? If so, then this alone would be a nice find!

[wireless_one]

You say you're giving credit to Button for inspiration. I currently use the ROM he posted here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37980&highlight=rom) and would like to know what benefits I'd get by changing to the one from this thread.
Can anyone tell me succinctly what's to be gained by switching? I see the increase in version numbers but it doesn't tell me anything.

If you have T-Mobile USA I'd say go for it. Its the latest ROM version, it runs fast and snappy, and it has the T-Mobile USA data settings and boot/splash screens so it looks like a branded device. I didn't include all the useless tmobile customizations though.

What were the useless customizations that you left out? Am I able to get them again if I were to want any of it?

I am curious too. I tried several times to mesh the I-Mate Rom and the T-Mobile settings and could never get it all to work out. I ended up flashing my Qtek 9100 with the T-Mobile MDA original rom and ext rom. While it is slow and has memory leak issues, it does have the email triggers and settings, so I've been pleased thus far. I would like something a bit faster but not at the expense of having the same issues as I had with the I-Mate rom. Would love to here pro/cons etc., as well as possible tweaks to improve performance.

TIA!!

[wireless_one]

You say you're giving credit to Button for inspiration. I currently use the ROM he posted here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37980&highlight=rom) and would like to know what benefits I'd get by changing to the one from this thread.
Can anyone tell me succinctly what's to be gained by switching? I see the increase in version numbers but it doesn't tell me anything.

If you have T-Mobile USA I'd say go for it. Its the latest ROM version, it runs fast and snappy, and it has the T-Mobile USA data settings and boot/splash screens so it looks like a branded device. I didn't include all the useless tmobile customizations though.

What were the useless customizations that you left out? Am I able to get them again if I were to want any of it?

I am curious too. I tried several times to mesh the I-Mate Rom and the T-Mobile settings and could never get it all to work out. I ended up flashing my Qtek 9100 with the T-Mobile MDA original rom and ext rom. While it is slow and has memory leak issues, it does have the email triggers and settings, so I've been pleased thus far. I would like something a bit faster but not at the expense of having the same issues as I had with the I-Mate rom. Would love to here pro/cons etc., as well as possible tweaks to improve performance.

TIA!!

[tedder]

I installed this (2.17), but now I can't do anything with the wifi connection manager. When I'm in the comm manager and tap the wifi icon, it consistently hangs.

Has anyone else experienced this? Any ideas?

[cruiserman]

Comm Mgr works fine for me. Two things i noticed though.

After setting a password, I set the "Prompt if device unused for" to 0 minutes. This usually means only prompt for a password if the phone is turned off then on, but now it prompts for password when left on after 1 minute on inactivity. I only want to be prompted during startup.

The other thing is the battery icom in the title bar. It obscures the date/time that i had displayed there.

[JonnoB]

The other thing is the battery icom in the title bar. It obscures the date/time that i had displayed there.

The clock on the home page is removed in favor of the battery indicator in AKU2 :x

[buidoi2023]

Thanks xelencin and those who made this ROM possible. My MDA is lighting fast right now. I was very pleased with the MDA's stock ROM, but i decided to bite the dust, shut my eyes, twisted my fingers to turn my most precios toy to a brick or to something better or worst. Honestly it wasn't as bad if you do enough research, follow direction carefully, and make sure you read the instructions twice before each step. make sure you backup as much as you can of course. The process went without a hitch and woalla heheheehe. Ok where do i start? the phone volume is louder. The phone is very snappy (though there were some scary moments when i press the start button and it took about 5 sec for the pull down menu - this is gone of course). More storage because without most of the ExtROM crap, that's a plus for me too. I have an unlimit data plan for 19 bucks (how did i get that? the tmo sales prep i dealt with didn't know tmo changed the plan price to 29.99 - all i had to do was to argue with tmo customer rep that it is in my contract for 19.99 and they grand fathered it in woallla lucky me - mabe you should try that too hehehe - but really it was written in my contract). Anyway i was going to let the plan go because i didn't think the speed was fast enough, and it is a bit hassel to web browsing through EDGE/GRPS and most at time i am at a place that has WIFI to tap into. Well guess what, the data plan is staying because it is zooming right now, much faster than before. Remote Desktop and Citrix are working really well now. Who said MDA is to slow for remote desktop?????? Battery capacity seems to be much better as well. Wifi works for me without a hitch, i think it is faster too but i couldn't really tell. one plus feature with this ROM that TMO MDA lacking is Java Midlet. I now can use Google Local and Mini Opera and many midlets later on hehehe. I have not tried Push email but will soon. Bottom line if you don't have heart problem or not taking any arnger managment class and want some juice in your life go ahead with this ROM. I hope i don't talk too soon but my MDA ROCKS, My friend has a 6700 and he thinks it is slower than my MDA, what give????? hehehe. Once again, thank you xelencin and those who made this ROM possible.

My only question is i used lokiwiz to sim unlock my phone before i upgrade. will my phone still be sim unlock after upgrade? Haven't tested it yet but i will, just need a quick answer.

XDA Developers ROCK
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[buidoi2023]

The other thing is the battery icom in the title bar. It obscures the date/time that i had displayed there.

The clock on the home page is removed in favor of the battery indicator in AKU2 :x

This didn't bother me abit, i use voice command. Just another way to show off my MDA hahaha. but really i kindda miss the clock on the task bar :wink:

[jonazen]

Since items like the clock are in different places, will this affect the way various skins work with the new ROM?

Also wondering about tools such as Wisbar Advanced 2, and the choices it gives you for items in the title bar and task bar, reordering them, skinning, etc. Will this all work the same with the new ROM? I imagine it should, just wondering if anyone has tried it out...

[gilbreen]

Since items like the clock are in different places, will this affect the way various skins work with the new ROM?

Also wondering about tools such as Wisbar Advanced 2, and the choices it gives you for items in the title bar and task bar, reordering them, skinning, etc. Will this all work the same with the new ROM? I imagine it should, just wondering if anyone has tried it out...


I just upgraded to this ROM last night and had some of the same questions. I use Wisbar Advance 2 and any selections you make through your skin of choice show up as expected and you are able to reorder them as you like. I believe the way WA2 works is it draws itself over the title bar not in lieu of it.

Thanks for the efforts to put this ROM together. My MDA (T-Mobile USA) is running better than ever.

[jonazen]

I just upgraded to this ROM last night and had some of the same questions. I use Wisbar Advance 2 and any selections you make through your skin of choice show up as expected and you are able to reorder them as you like. I believe the way WA2 works is it draws itself over the title bar not in lieu of it.

Thanks - sounds good....getting more encouraged to give this a try...

[Pmavrovic]

Hi I am new to this forum and I have read through all the posts regarding backing up and unlocking the HTC Wizard / Tmobile variant.

I have already backed up my phone using the aWizard utility and I have unlocked it.

Just wondering if the latest firmware posted here is really worth the upgrade from the original firmware loaded on the phone?

Also, for those that have already upgraded with success, did you loose any of the factory installed apps with the modded firmwares available here.

I only ask this due to some of the unsucessful posts in this thread.

Thanks in advance,

Paul Mavrovic :)

[Pmavrovic]

Thanks xelencin and those who made this ROM possible. My MDA is lighting fast right now. I was very pleased with the MDA's stock ROM, but i decided to bite the dust, shut my eyes, twisted my fingers to turn my most precios toy to a brick or to something better or worst. Honestly it wasn't as bad if you do enough research, follow direction carefully, and make sure you read the instructions twice before each step. make sure you backup as much as you can of course. The process went without a hitch and woalla heheheehe. Ok where do i start? the phone volume is louder. The phone is very snappy (though there were some scary moments when i press the start button and it took about 5 sec for the pull down menu - this is gone of course). More storage because without most of the ExtROM crap, that's a plus for me too. I have an unlimit data plan for 19 bucks (how did i get that? the tmo sales prep i dealt with didn't know tmo changed the plan price to 29.99 - all i had to do was to argue with tmo customer rep that it is in my contract for 19.99 and they grand fathered it in woallla lucky me - mabe you should try that too hehehe - but really it was written in my contract). Anyway i was going to let the plan go because i didn't think the speed was fast enough, and it is a bit hassel to web browsing through EDGE/GRPS and most at time i am at a place that has WIFI to tap into. Well guess what, the data plan is staying because it is zooming right now, much faster than before. Battery capacity seems to be much better as well. Wifi works for me without a hitch, i think it is faster too but i couldn't really tell. one plus feature with this ROM that TMO MDA lacking is Java Midlet. I now can use Google Local and Mini Opera and many midlets later on hehehe. I have not tried Push email but will soon. Bottom line if you don't have heart problem or not taking any arnger managment class and want some juice in your life go ahead with this ROM. I hope i don't talk too soon but my MDA ROCKS, My friend has a 6700 and he thinks it is slower than my MDA, what give????? hehehe. Once again, thank you xelencin and those who made this ROM possible.

My only question is i used lokiwiz to sim unlock my phone before i upgrade. will my phone still be sim unlock after upgrade? Haven't tested it yet but i will, just need a quick answer.

XDA Developers ROCK
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just read this post and I see that the new ROM is faster!

HMM food for thought!

buidoi2023, can you confirm that you have not lost any of the features that came with the phone?

Thanks in advance. ( Chompin at the bit to flash! )

[buidoi2023]

Hi I am new to this forum and I have read through all the posts regarding backing up and unlocking the HTC Wizard / Tmobile variant.

I have already backed up my phone using the aWizard utility and I have unlocked it.

Just wondering if the latest firmware posted here is really worth the upgrade from the original firmware loaded on the phone?

Also, for those that have already upgraded with success, did you loose any of the factory installed apps with the modded firmwares available here.

I only ask this due to some of the unsucessful posts in this thread.

Thanks in advance,

Paul Mavrovic :)

to me it is worth it. not anything that i would missed. the only factory installed app that that i notice missing is the instant messaging package. Is it in the old extROM? if so which one is it? Could some one please let me know?

Thanks

Update: Just answered my own question. it is in the old extROM called Signed_OZPocketPC.Cab.

[Pmavrovic]

Thanks for the quick reply!

I think I am going to try out the flash this weekend when I have some downtime!

[DungKHoang]

Hi,
I successfully upgraded my T-Mobile MDA to this ROM. Evetyrhong looks great so far. I have only few questions:

a) How do you reboot the device into bootloader? When I turn off the phone and use <Power Button> + <Camera button> nothing happens. No boot. It seems like the <Power> Button stops working. To power on I have to do a soft reset. FYI, powering off using this button seems to work

b) I can't find the Pocket Outlook utility. It is replaced by the T-Mobile My-Email utility. How can I get it back?

c) In the Comm Manager, the icon representing the E-mail push is grayed out. How can I enable this? I'd liek to get this mail push thing

d) Finally, how do you configure the GPRS/EDGE connection?

Thanks for your great work and help,
/Dung

[buidoi2023]

Hi,
I successfully upgraded my T-Mobile MDA to this ROM. Evetyrhong looks great so far. I have only few questions:

a) How do you reboot the device into bootloader? When I turn off the phone and use <Power Button> + <Camera button> nothing happens. No boot. It seems like the <Power> Button stops working. To power on I have to do a soft reset. FYI, powering off using this button seems to work

b) I can't find the Pocket Outlook utility. It is replaced by the T-Mobile My-Email utility. How can I get it back?

c) In the Comm Manager, the icon representing the E-mail push is grayed out. How can I enable this? I'd liek to get this mail push thing

d) Finally, how do you configure the GPRS/EDGE connection?

Thanks for your great work and help,
/Dung

Hi Dung,

hopefully I can answer some of your questions.

a. to get to the bootloader turn your phone on (not off) with the power and camera buttons

b. when you are in outlook email. instead of selecting setup my Email, select new account. I think this is what you want though I am not sure

c. for push email to work the email server has to be exchange 2003 with sp2. on the WM5 side you just need to do an exchange sync and put in your exchange sever hostname (exchange external host name). On exchange server side you need to configure outlook mobile access for the account you are using. there will be some complications if your exchange server is configure to use form based auth and SSL for exchange HTPP (OWA, OMA). I am posting this message from my MDA so I can't post up some helpful links regarding about this exchange issue. just let me know if you need help further. after you are done configuring exchange active an successfully perform an exchange active sync, Push Email should start working and the push email button will no longer be grayed out.

d. this ROM should automatically configure GPRS/EDGE if you have Tmo as your service provider. to manually configure it go to Connections in Connections and click on manage existing connection in Tmobile GPRS.

Chúc b?n thành công
Chào Dung

[Pmavrovic]

To add to the previous post with regard to the GRPS/EDGE option:

There is NO way to individually manage EDGE. It is under the GPRS settings of your phone.

On mine I can tell I am on EDGE when I see that the K/sec download is in the right range. Pages come up faster.

I hope this helps. :wink:

[DJSinCity]

Please tell me that when you say 'I removed all those pointless IM software' you were only referring to Yahoo and AIM ... because If this rom doesn't have MSN Messenger then I won't want to put it on my phone...

[buidoi2023]

Please tell me that when you say 'I removed all those pointless IM software' you were only referring to Yahoo and AIM ... because If this rom doesn't have MSN Messenger then I won't want to put it on my phone...

Meaning that Yahoo, AIM,and MSN. Just because of that suckie package and you want to pass on a beeter ROM????? You can always load Instant Messaging software back from your backup extROM. You do back up don't you? it's called signed_OZPocket... something. but it sucks anyhow, even with Push Email meaning that EDGE/GPRS is always on. I think i was designed to work with your text messaging rather than data. i was very good when i didn't have the data plan. My Yahoo buddies seem to have lost their patience while waiting for me to answer their IM...... the one I never got hehehe. suckie. Maybe there is a beeter third party IM out there. Does i anyone know? Thanks

[smstoops]

I installed this ROM yesterday and since then my battery indicator seems to be stuck on 100%. Well so I turned on wifi and all power saving features are off just to see if it will move.
After about a half hour it droped to 99% then another 20minutes or so it dropped to 98%.
WOW the battery life has realy improved in this ROM!

[Pmavrovic]

Please tell me that when you say 'I removed all those pointless IM software' you were only referring to Yahoo and AIM ... because If this rom doesn't have MSN Messenger then I won't want to put it on my phone...

Meaning that Yahoo, AIM,and MSN. Just because of that suckie package and you want to pass on a beeter ROM????? You can always load Instant Messaging software back from your backup extROM. You do back up don't you? it's called signed_OZPocket... something. but it sucks anyhow, even with Push Email meaning that EDGE/GPRS is always on. I think i was designed to work with your text messaging rather than data. i was very good when i didn't have the data plan. My Yahoo buddies seem to have lost their patience while waiting for me to answer their IM...... the one I never got hehehe. suckie. Maybe there is a beeter third party IM out there. Does i anyone know? Thanks

Here is one that I used to use on my Symbian Phone that was quite good.


They also support Windows Mobile.[/url]www.agilemobile.com/agile_messenger.html[/url]

[j007w]

I just wanna say thanks! This was the easiest firmware upgrade I've ever done to any phone. Sure beats covering pins with scotch tapes on a Panasonic GU87 and waiting for 45 minutes. :lol: By contrast, this took just 8 minutes and all is well so far.

Thanks again

[Pmavrovic]

After reading all this positive feedback, I am going to flash mine today!

[Pmavrovic]

I have one newbie question:

After reading the previous posts and backing up my factory setup, I can see all the .CAB files int he EXT rom backup on my PC.

I am wondering how would I install a specific cab file back to the phone if it is NOT included with the custom ROM given above.

Since I have not yet gone through the process of flashing I am not sure how to install a CAB file onto a pocket PC device...

Is it as simple as copying the CAB to the device and then running it from the UI of the phone?

Thanks in advance, and sorry for the simplicity of the question...

[johnwman]

I flashed my phone with this rom yesterday. It was quite effortless and the installer program took me through all the steps. It took about 10 minutes. All seems well. but to be honest, the phone does not seem any more or less responsive than before I flashed the rom.

[buidoi2023]

I have one newbie question:

After reading the previous posts and backing up my factory setup, I can see all the .CAB files int he EXT rom backup on my PC.

I am wondering how would I install a specific cab file back to the phone if it is NOT included with the custom ROM given above.

Since I have not yet gone through the process of flashing I am not sure how to install a CAB file onto a pocket PC device...

Is it as simple as copying the CAB to the device and then running it from the UI of the phone?

Thanks in advance, and sorry for the simplicity of the question...

Yes just copy the cab file to your storage card or the phone and use file explorer of the phone to run it.

[DJSinCity]

I have one newbie question:

After reading the previous posts and backing up my factory setup, I can see all the .CAB files int he EXT rom backup on my PC.

I am wondering how would I install a specific cab file back to the phone if it is NOT included with the custom ROM given above.

Since I have not yet gone through the process of flashing I am not sure how to install a CAB file onto a pocket PC device...

Is it as simple as copying the CAB to the device and then running it from the UI of the phone?

Thanks in advance, and sorry for the simplicity of the question...

Yes, you are perfectly correct, Is it as simple as copying the CAB to the device and then running it from the UI of the phone

[DJSinCity]

I have one newbie question:

After reading the previous posts and backing up my factory setup, I can see all the .CAB files int he EXT rom backup on my PC.

I am wondering how would I install a specific cab file back to the phone if it is NOT included with the custom ROM given above.

Since I have not yet gone through the process of flashing I am not sure how to install a CAB file onto a pocket PC device...

Is it as simple as copying the CAB to the device and then running it from the UI of the phone?

Thanks in advance, and sorry for the simplicity of the question...

Yes, you are perfectly correct, It is as simple as copying the CAB to the device and then running it from the UI of the phone

[buidoi2023]

Please tell me that when you say 'I removed all those pointless IM software' you were only referring to Yahoo and AIM ... because If this rom doesn't have MSN Messenger then I won't want to put it on my phone...

Meaning that Yahoo, AIM,and MSN. Just because of that suckie package and you want to pass on a beeter ROM????? You can always load Instant Messaging software back from your backup extROM. You do back up don't you? it's called signed_OZPocket... something. but it sucks anyhow, even with Push Email meaning that EDGE/GPRS is always on. I think i was designed to work with your text messaging rather than data. i was very good when i didn't have the data plan. My Yahoo buddies seem to have lost their patience while waiting for me to answer their IM...... the one I never got hehehe. suckie. Maybe there is a beeter third party IM out there. Does i anyone know? Thanks

Here is one that I used to use on my Symbian Phone that was quite good.


They also support Windows Mobile.[/url]www.agilemobile.com/agile_messenger.html[/url]

Tried that, It crapped out on me serveral times - so trashed it went. it used to work really well on my MPX220 but maybe it is not WM5 compatible. Thanks anyway. Any one else who had success with agile on their wizard or has a better IM client please let me know.

Thanks
buidoi2023

[rrryan]

First for the firmware, just upgraded and everything is working perfectly so far.

Just one little thing that I wish can be changed, if anyone can help it will be great.

Is there anyway to have the default battery icon back in the system tray? I usually have mine date/time mod on the taskbar and like the original battery indicator.

Thanks.

[Pmavrovic]

I have a full backup of the original shipping EXTROM files.
If someone could direct me as to which one of these CABs contains the battery indicator, I can make it available if needed.

I still have not flashed my phone with the new ROM yet.

I am goign to wait untill a can figgure out how to get the battery indicator back as well.

I tend to think that it may be part of the Connmanager cab, but I am *NOT* sure.

[stormryder]

help me out here. I've gotten a pretty good understanding on how to do a custom ROM of my own, but I'm pretty much stuck at the converting a nbf file to an nba file so I can dump it and muck around with the files.

I've checked out the nbf to nba tool, but it gives me a "bad password" error when I try to convert the file to an nba. Does the QTEK WWE rom need a password? The tools for dumping the ROM don't recognize the file as is.

I'd like to do a Cingular version of this if at all possible.

[fleshball]

The new rom is lighting fast. Ver ynice...

I just did not back up the extended rom...

.

would someone be willing to give me a c.cab file of the instant messenger?

[jonazen]

ROM upgrade was truly painless -- fantastic job - thanks!

What's funny is that the ROM upgrade was the easy part. Now I'm trying to get all my apps reinstalled, themes back in place, and it's the apps that are giving me problems! (nothing to do with the rom -- just need to configure everything). Hopefully it will all be back together soon...

[DungKHoang]

Hi BuiDoi2023,

Thanks for your replies. I was able to have DirectPush working with my Exchange server.

Many thanks for all your help!
This rocks!
/Dung

[jonazen]

ROM upgrade was truly painless -- fantastic job - thanks!

What's funny is that the ROM upgrade was the easy part. Now I'm trying to get all my apps reinstalled, themes back in place, and it's the apps that are giving me problems! (nothing to do with the rom -- just need to configure everything). Hopefully it will all be back together soon...

Ahh well...a few oddities to work out. I seem to have a permanent "Notification" message on the lower left of my screen, my PocketBreeze somehow disappeared (very weird) and I have one or two other oddities to resolve. I'm confident, but this is tedious!

[Pmavrovic]

Has anyone been able to get back the battery icon on the front page tray?

I have NOT flashed my MDA vario yet, but I DO like the fact that I am able to see the battery icon on the front tray of the screen.

Thanks.

PS: I have a FULL backup of the original software on the MDA, just wondering if the Battery icon is an EXT ROM thing or part of the OS NBA file.

Also: what util will allow me to open / view the contents of the NBA file?

Thanks in advance.

[xelencin]

3 Things:

1.) There is a cab that REMOVES the old battery meter which I put in the extended rom, this same cab is standard in the qtek and imate versions of these roms. The reason being is that there is NO WAY to remove the battery icon at the top of the screen. What's the point of having 2? This seems to be standard now in the new roms.

2.) The built-in T-Mobile OZ Instant Messaging client is complete garbage, it is also SMS based. Use the alpha version of Agile Messenger for WM5. It can be found in the forum.

3.) I went through testing ALL the Qtek and T-Mobile cabs in this rom. Some of the T-Mobile default cabs WILL MESS UP your WM5 setup and you will have to do a hard reset to fix it. I didn't include any of the undeeded t-mobile customizations including the hotspot utility. This was not included because you can log into a hotspot just by trying to visit a website in pocket ie, it will bring you to the login page. The hotspot utility uses extra memory and is just a waste. Also I do not have a list of what cabs do what, I just grabbed what I needed and combined them into a single cab.

[Pmavrovic]

3 Things:

1.) There is a cab that REMOVES the old battery meter which I put in the extended rom, this same cab is standard in the qtek and imate versions of these roms. The reason being is that there is NO WAY to remove the battery icon at the top of the screen. What's the point of having 2? This seems to be standard now in the new roms.

2.) The built-in T-Mobile OZ Instant Messaging client is complete garbage, it is also SMS based. Use the alpha version of Agile Messenger for WM5. It can be found in the forum.

3.) I went through testing ALL the Qtek and T-Mobile cabs in this rom. Some of the T-Mobile default cabs WILL MESS UP your WM5 setup and you will have to do a hard reset to fix it. I didn't include any of the undeeded t-mobile customizations including the hotspot utility. This was not included because you can log into a hotspot just by trying to visit a website in pocket ie, it will bring you to the login page. The hotspot utility uses extra memory and is just a waste. Also I do not have a list of what cabs do what, I just grabbed what I needed and combined them into a single cab.


Thanks so much for clarifying this! My default build from T-Mobile does NOT include a battery indicator at the top of the screen, so I was under the assumption that the battery indicator was missing from the front page totally.
As far as the other apps, I agree that I can do without them.

Thanks so much for all you effort on this!

Here is an screenshot of my phone's default screen with the battery indicator @ the bottom.
http://66.93.91.245/images/tmo/tmo.png

[Pmavrovic]

Just flashed mine!

All is good.

The default battery icon is sufficient in the standard top right.

It would be nice to get the original one back pictured, but that is just a whish list item.

Everything is running bettter and the volume on the phone is slightly better.

Thanks for all the great work all!

:D

[ghostrida]

Hey guys. seen some good reviews of this ROM and am really considering flashing my MDA because I have had so many problems and constantly having to soft-reset to get things going again.

My question is that I have heavily modified my MDA already with reg hacks, applications, overclocking etc. What happens to all this stuff? Do I back it up? Is it unaffected after the update? Does the update wipe this stuff clean?

If so can I just backup to my SD using Sprite or something and restore afterwards or will this cause some conflicts because of the switch in ROMS? Not really too much of a pain to reinstall stuff, but a little annoying i guess, thanks!

[Pmavrovic]

actually the flash is just like a FRESH install.
All of you INSTALLED mods will need to be re-applied. ( Based on my experience so far )

It is worth it however.
You can put the CABs of the files you wish to install on your flash card to make the install process easier.

[j0nkatz]

Just flashed! Everything is great so far.
WHat are the extra icons for in Comm Manager? Like the one with a envelope?

[jonazen]

My last post mentioned some troubles I was having. The flash itself went well, but I ran into trouble reinstalling all my apps. I think now that it wasn't totally necessary (there might have been workarounds I missed), but I wound up doing a hard reset today, and reinstalling apps again.

Anyway - net of all this is that my phone is running beautifully now with 2.17 -- thanks SO much for this ROM installer. The ROM really was the easy part -- it's just getting the apps, tweaks and skins all right that I had to be careful about. But now I've got a bunch loaded up, it all works beautifully, looks great, is faster than before, and takes up less memory.

Fantastic! Thanks again!

[lanwarrior]

I've flashed to this new ROM, but now I want to REMOVE the battery icon on the top right bar, because it's covering the date/time icon. The date/time icon is now showing ONLY when I open an application, not on today screen.

Can anyone tell me how to do this?

[summiter]

I've flashed to this new ROM, but now I want to REMOVE the battery icon on the top right bar, because it's covering the date/time icon. The date/time icon is now showing ONLY when I open an application, not on today screen.

Can anyone tell me how to do this?

Unfortunately you can't. It's either hard coded or set via registry. If it's set via registry, the key has yet to be identified.

[lanwarrior]

Unfortunately you can't. It's either hard coded or set via registry. If it's set via registry, the key has yet to be identified.

I think it's set via the registry and not hard coded. Before I flashed my MDA to the ROM 2.17, I was using T-Mobile original ROM and the battery icon was NOT shown. Instead, the time (and later the date via registry change) was shown.

I am mucking around the registry, but couldn't find it so far. I think it may have some funky key name, much like the registry hack of showing the date and time (TBop).

[Pmavrovic]

If you manage to find some way to remove the battery icon from the top of the screen and get the original one to show up on the bottom as in my picture above, please post up the fix!

It is NOT a major issue, just a wish list item.

I am very impressed with this ROM compilation.

[Pmavrovic]

BTW:

I found the answer to my battery icon issue from this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42913&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75

I managed to get back my battery icon on the lower tray.

There are also many other tray solutions there!

[lanwarrior]

BTW:

I found the answer to my battery icon issue from this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42913&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75

I managed to get back my battery icon on the lower tray.

There are also many other tray solutions there!

Thanks for the info, but it doesn't show anything about changing the battery icon on the top. It seems that there is a way to remove it by using WisBar advance, but I don't want to install a software just to remove the battery bar on top.

It's true that this is not a critical matter, but it hampers my ability to look at the time just by glancing at the Today's screen, much like if I have a regular phone, I can look at the time.

BTW, speaking of battery, I am using SpB Pocket Plus and I can see the battery bar at the very top of the taskbar, in forms of multiple strips that goes down as the battery goes down.

[pinhead]

Is there a way to avoid installing Total Commander with this ROM? I am fine with the other customizations, but that program is annoying in that some of the .cab files I try to install from the storage card don't want to open. It is like Total Commander completely takes control and makes things NOT work.

I uninstalled it but all of it's "commanding" is still there.

[pinhead]

Is there a way to avoid installing Total Commander with this ROM? I am fine with the other customizations, but that program is annoying in that some of the .cab files I try to install from the storage card don't want to open. It is like Total Commander completely takes control and makes things NOT work.

I uninstalled it but all of it's "commanding" is still there.

Btw, thank you very much for doing this Ext ROM setup...it really makes things easy for the rest of us!

[lanwarrior]

Is there a way to tunr on BT without going through Comm Manager? With this ROM, pressing "Exit" on the Comm Manager interface does NOT close that app. I have to go to "Memory" and kill the app manually. Otherwise, It'll take almost 1 Mb of my precious memory.

[MadMDA]

I have just flashed my MDA with this ROM and it is working great so far. No problems yet.

In answer to the questions about the Comm Manager icons (decided to answer because I have a related question) the icons (top to bottom - left to right) are:

Phone
WiFi
Stop Data Service
Bluetooth
Microsoft DirectPush (requires Exchange Server 2003 w/SP2)
Vibrate
Active Sync

Some of the above icons are not available all of the time eg. when you "Stop Data Service" the icon is no longer active and cannot be used and DirectPush requires syncing with a server be setup to be available.

However, the question I have is that the icon/button for ActiveSync is never active or usable for me. This is not a huge issue for me as I have setup a schedule for syncing. Am I missing something here? Let me know.

[xelencin]

Is there a way to avoid installing Total Commander with this ROM? I am fine with the other customizations, but that program is annoying in that some of the .cab files I try to install from the storage card don't want to open. It is like Total Commander completely takes control and makes things NOT work.

I uninstalled it but all of it's "commanding" is still there.

Btw, thank you very much for doing this Ext ROM setup...it really makes things easy for the rest of us!

The only way is to not allow customizations to install and install them yourself manually from the extended rom. I don't see how total commander is affecting you, it does nothing with cabs at all, it is just a file manager/registry editor.

[ghostrida]

Hey, just flashed to this new ROM and all went well. device is functioning properly for the most part.

For some reason the phone is no longer going into standby/sleep mode. The settings are set correctly but no sleep. Screen dims properly, and I can manually sleep using power button. Soft-reset didn't help. anyone have this problem? TIA.

[ansonkemp]

My MDA Vario would not connect with the original Rom. I was hoping this ROM update would allow it to connect but it will still not. I used registry wizard to update the registry settings for Wifi G, but it still will not connect successfully. It seems some rom will work with the Belkin Pre-n. Does any one know which specific rom works with this particular router.

[jonazen]

My MDA Vario would not connect with the original Rom. I was hoping this ROM update would allow it to connect but it will still not. I used registry wizard to update the registry settings for Wifi G, but it still will not connect successfully. It seems some rom will work with the Belkin Pre-n. Does any one know which specific rom works with this particular router.

Anson -

I have the belkin pre-n -- actually one of the first they released, ver 1001 (sticker on bottom of unit). Works beautifully with my T-Mobile MDA -- I had it working with the original shipping ROM, and it connects even faster with the 2.17 ROM.

With original ROM, even though I had the 802.11g hack in the MDA, I also had to put the Belkin into "mixed" mode, accepting both "b" and "g" connections. Now with the new ROM, after I put in the 802.11g hack, I can run the Belkin "pre-N" in "g-only" and the MDA still sees it and connects almost immediately.

For security, I'm using WPA/TKIP (note that it must be the same on the router and the phone!), and of course the "psk" (pre-shared-key) must be identical on the router and phone too.

Anyway - the combo works perfectly - MDA with 2.17 ROM, 802.11g hacks and Belkin "pre-n" router set to WPA/TKIP in "mixed" or "g-only".

Note: I've read some posts to the effect that WM5 seems far more compatible with WPA than with WEP...which is ok anyway, since WEP is a seriously compromised "security" standard these days since it's become so easy to crack.

[Pmavrovic]

BTW:

I found the answer to my battery icon issue from this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42913&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75

I managed to get back my battery icon on the lower tray.

There are also many other tray solutions there!

Thanks for the info, but it doesn't show anything about changing the battery icon on the top. It seems that there is a way to remove it by using WisBar advance, but I don't want to install a software just to remove the battery bar on top.

It's true that this is not a critical matter, but it hampers my ability to look at the time just by glancing at the Today's screen, much like if I have a regular phone, I can look at the time.

BTW, speaking of battery, I am using SpB Pocket Plus and I can see the battery bar at the very top of the taskbar, in forms of multiple strips that goes down as the battery goes down.

I may have to look into that software for my MDA too. But I have already spent a bunch of $$$ on addon apps, and I am trying to budget myself before my Fiancee makes me buy her something to balance out my spending. HEHE :P

[HazChem]

I have been enjoying this new quicker ROM for a week and just noticed yesterday that the left soft key is now linked to Phone whereas with the original T-Mobile ROM it was linked to Calender.

Is this just me or do you guys also have this change? Is there a way to remap it to Calendar?

Thanks.

[jonazen]

I have been enjoying this new quicker ROM for a week and just noticed yesterday that the left soft key is now linked to Phone whereas with the original T-Mobile ROM it was linked to Calender.

Is this just me or do you guys also have this change? Is there a way to remap it to Calendar?

Thanks.

That's pretty weird. I'm using the 2.17 customized ROM, and my left soft-key is still the Calendar key...

[DJSinCity]

Finally got to load this ROM today, it's fantastic..

Everything runs smoothly and I have around 55% free'd up ram when nothing's running :D

I recommend it strongly

[summiter]

Is there a way to tunr on BT without going through Comm Manager? With this ROM, pressing "Exit" on the Comm Manager interface does NOT close that app. I have to go to "Memory" and kill the app manually. Otherwise, It'll take almost 1 Mb of my precious memory.

It's like that on the standard Imate and Qtek AKU2 ROMs. It's probably the intentional behavior, although I agree it would be nice if it truly closed and released the memory.

[xelencin]

Hey, just flashed to this new ROM and all went well. device is functioning properly for the most part.

For some reason the phone is no longer going into standby/sleep mode. The settings are set correctly but no sleep. Screen dims properly, and I can manually sleep using power button. Soft-reset didn't help. anyone have this problem? TIA.

Haven't seen this issue. You using Agile for WM5? That is the only that that prevents my phone from going to sleep.

[BullishBil]

Just got the Cingular 8125 and flashed it with this ROM. Everything works great! However, I do have a question. How do I use my phone as a modem over bluetooth? I used to use the o2 xda mini (aka Magician), but I did not find the same/similar program to use. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[hdubli]

Method os same...but depends on the BT stack on yr PC.. :lol:

[jonazen]

Hey, just flashed to this new ROM and all went well. device is functioning properly for the most part.

For some reason the phone is no longer going into standby/sleep mode. The settings are set correctly but no sleep. Screen dims properly, and I can manually sleep using power button. Soft-reset didn't help. anyone have this problem? TIA.

Haven't seen this issue. You using Agile for WM5? That is the only that that prevents my phone from going to sleep.

Does it do this even if it's shut off??? I'm looking for an IM client for the MDA...resisting reinstalling OZ (the cab is still sitting on my PC).

BTW: - re OZ being slow. I read some press releases from 2004 indicating that T-Mobile signed up with OZ to use their messaging gateway product to manage IM services for TMo customers. I'm wondering now if the problems people are seeing re: slow response, etc with OZ IM really has anything to do with the client, or if it's because TMo is aggregating all the IM traffic on an OZ messaging gateway that's under-spec'd.

Does OZ traffic have to go through a gateway like this? Is it possible to configure it to talk directly to services like AIM, Yahoo, MSN, ICQ? (maybe it already is and I'm imagining this gateway stuff...but that's what it looked like to me...)

[prestonmcafee]

I am wondering how much of the "snappiness" after the install is actually due to the hard reset. I had experimented with some software, including pocket informant, which I decided I didn't need or didn't like. Nothing seems to really uninstall in WM5, so, having taken careful notes on my setup, I performed a hard reset and then re-installed the software I wanted to use. There was definitely a speed increase, but that is probably due to eliminating junk and dead registry items.

I would like to know the time to a responsive today screen for a US T-Mobile MDA that has been reflashed with xelencin's ROM. With the stock MDA, I get 63 seconds, which degrades to 85 after I add spb Today plus and 4 plug-ins, Smartskey, etc. The test I use is the time from pressing the reset button to the Today screen responding to a down arrow command. This, by the way, is much slower than my boot of my Windows XP laptop, which boots in less than 60 seconds.

I had just performed the hard reset before I read about this new ROM, but will probably install it when it is next time for a hard reset. WM5 reminds me of Windows 98, which needed frequent re-installs from scratch to run properly.

Let me add that this is an awesome site and xelencin's contribution is the kind of dramatic gift that makes it so.

[jonazen]

I am wondering how much of the "snappiness" after the install is actually due to the hard reset. I had experimented with some software, including pocket informant, which I decided I didn't need or didn't like. Nothing seems to really uninstall in WM5, so, having taken careful notes on my setup, I performed a hard reset and then re-installed the software I wanted to use. There was definitely a speed increase, but that is probably due to eliminating junk and dead registry items.


Uninstalls really are a joke in WM5 it seems. I've gotten used to browsing the entire file structure after an uninstall, and manually deleting subdirs in Program Files links in Startup and scouting around for other application folders and files. Somebody messed up here! You would think that MS would understand uninstall requirements by now. In theory, all that *should* be needed is a list of all files and folders added by the application (along with reference counts for shared files), lists of items overwritten along with backed up copies of what they overwrite -- along with a robust uninstall routine built into WM5 that knows how to unhook DLL's, Today Screen plugin entries, and put things back together as described by the installer logs. This should be trivial after all the experience they've had with Windows as well as pocket pc.

BTW: tools like MemMaid help with a period housekeeping, although I haven't found a "perfect" one yet...


I would like to know the time to a responsive today screen for a US T-Mobile MDA that has been reflashed with xelencin's ROM. With the stock MDA, I get 63 seconds, which degrades to 85 after I add spb Today plus and 4 plug-ins, Smartskey, etc. The test I use is the time from pressing the reset button to the Today screen responding to a down arrow command. This, by the way, is much slower than my boot of my Windows XP laptop, which boots in less than 60 seconds.

I had just performed the hard reset before I read about this new ROM, but will probably install it when it is next time for a hard reset. WM5 reminds me of Windows 98, which needed frequent re-installs from scratch to run properly.


Next time I do a hard reset, I'll capture the startup time before and after all my app installs. I'm postponing that day as long as I can, however, because it has become pretty tedious and time consuming. After a hard reset, I install:
- Wisbar Advance 2
- PocketBreeze
- ContactBreeze
- iLauncher
- MS Voice Command
- Darryl Burling Voice Enable
- OpenNETCF
- .net framework
- Registry Wizard
- MemMaid
- Resco File Explorer and Registry Editor
- PocketZenPhone (PZP)
- PZP links, PZP skins, PZP user-defined profiles
- skins for Wisbar, PocketBreeze/ContactBreeze, iLauncher & a theme

...then of course I have to allow ActiveSync to reinstall and resync.

All in all, with a couple of warm resets in the process, this takes WAY too long to want to do more than once in a while....after a while, the "fun" goes out of this exercise!


Let me add that this is an awesome site and xelencin's contribution is the kind of dramatic gift that makes it so.

Yes, yes and yes! As much as I love the MDA, it would have been a much more time consuming and painful learning curve without this site. Thanks again to all who make it what it is.

[Kanjibankers]

Hey guys/gals. I am extremely new to all this mod stuff but am very interested in changing the ROM on my new Cingular 8125 to the Tmobile/Qtek ROM. I am with Tmobile and just got my unlocked 8125 this morning. Could somebody be kind enough to walk me through the steps of what I need to do? I have already downloaded the ROM file to my desktop.

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I couldnt fine a good tuturial on how to do this upgrade.

Thanks so much for helping a newb out!

[Pmavrovic]

If you Read through the first 1-2 pages of posts here, you will have a good idea of how to do this step by step.

The process from the downloded ROM files guides you pretty well, HOWEVER i STRONGLY recommend that you backup all your data and make sure that you read any of the problems that people have had.

Since your phone is NOT exacly the same as the wiza200, I would suggest that you search for any other people that have sucessfully upgraded their Cingular 8125 models to this firmware.

[magnusbaron]

I can turn on the wifi but it doesnt connect anymore ! I know for sure that there are at least 4 wifi connections around me normally but I dont see any of them !
Any ideas ?

[prestonmcafee]

Jonazem:

I, too, have a long recovery from a hard reset. In order, I install

black theme
smartskey
omapclock and two shortcuts to automate speeds (216 and 240)
engineering calculator
registry wizard (requires settings)
phm traylaunch (requires lots of tedious settings since no cut and paste)
bticon
mortsaver
memmaid
set up pop3 email account
record eight quick dial voice commands for the car

get activesync running

zagat to go (on pc card, just needs shortcut in start menu)
listpro (on pc card, just needs shortcut in start menu)
newsbreak (on pc card, just needs shortcut in start menu)
metro (on pc card, just needs shortcut in start menu)

spb today plus
spb weather
spb backup
spb diary
spb media
these require a lot of configuration

sjphone, and a little configuration

configure to receive from 3 wireless routers

Total time is about 8 hours, but I can multitask.

[jonazen]

Preston -

I'm getting agita just reading your list. Deja vu! Thinking now that it would be neat to come up with a way of automating our favorite installs -- something like a comprehensive install script that you can assemble and run from the PC that's plugged into the mobile device.

I'm starting to ponder this more seriously now, because I think I'd like to try my MDA with a leaner, more carefully selected set of enhancements. But that means the hard reset, reinstall, reconfig cycle again. Not my happiest fantasy... :shock:

[prestonmcafee]

Jonazem:

Some of them, like voice recognition, are probably impossible to automate (unless you can figure out where the files are stored...), but it ought to be easy enough to automate dropping shortcuts into the appropriate folders. I'm already using windows for that.

Installing software on the SD card helps, since that requires just a shortcut drop to re-install, when it works.

Actually, traylaunch needs to be linked to the shortcuts in the Start Menu folder, because otherwise the icons are lost during the frequent occurrance that the SD card becomes unavailable, even if briefly.

[chix]

I dl'd the ROM to my desktop and I'm connected to my MDA. However, a screen comes up:

Do you need to CID Unlock your phone first?

I answer No.

But nothing happens - (the upgrade does not begin)

What am I doing wrong?

[jonazen]

I dl'd the ROM to my desktop and I'm connected to my MDA. However, a screen comes up:

Do you need to CID Unlock your phone first?

I answer No.

But nothing happens - (the upgrade does not begin)

What am I doing wrong?


Ummm...did you ever CID unlock your MDA before this??? If not, you're really asking for trouble! You MUST CID unlock before flashing one company's branded firmware ROM (in this case Qtek) onto another company's branded hardware (in this case, T-Mobile). Otherwise you may be looking at a quick and easy way to "brick" your phone, creating a lovely new high-tech-look paperweight. PLEASE read this thread before proceeding!

[n8dagr8]

I can turn on the wifi but it doesnt connect anymore ! I know for sure that there are at least 4 wifi connections around me normally but I dont see any of them !
Any ideas ?

Do you have the GPRS set up to use the proxy server to connect to the internet?

What happens if you uncheck that option?

[qmacker]

Sorry if this annoys anyone - I've spent the last 7 hours trying to find out the best method. I want to do two things:

A) BACKUP my USA T-Mobile MDA to SD, so I can restore it later
B) Upgrade to the T-Mobile USA 2.17 ROM (Custom)

After reading all the posts, let me see if this is correct:

STEP ONE: UNLOCK:

- First of all, I'm going to UNLOCK the device using lockiwiz
- (Do I need to do this twice? Once for the SIM and once for the CID?)
- After device is unlocked, I'm going to back it up.

STEP TWO: BACKUP:

- I've got an extra 128MB MiniSD card, which I'm using just for this purpose:
- I'm going to use TeraTermPro to backup to the SD card.
- I'm going to use the following command: r2sd all
- (This will backup EVERYTHING to the MiniSD, right?)

STEP THREE: UPGRADE:

- To Upgrade, I'm going to just run the CUSTOM_RUU_Prodigy_217....exe file, right?
- That's it, okay?

AFTER THE UPGRADE (OR BEFORE?):

- Should I uninstall ActiveSync?
- Presumably I should, as I will have a clean wiped device, and I'll want to start a new partnership?
- Should I uninstall ActiveSync before or after I upgrade to the new ROM?

Thank you all. This is a great forum. I'm also going to post this in the T-Mobile USA 2.17 ROM (Custom) section as well.

[thugsouljah723]

Hey guys/gals. I am extremely new to all this mod stuff but am very interested in changing the ROM on my new Cingular 8125 to the Tmobile/Qtek ROM. I am with Tmobile and just got my unlocked 8125 this morning. Could somebody be kind enough to walk me through the steps of what I need to do? I have already downloaded the ROM file to my desktop.

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I couldnt fine a good tuturial on how to do this upgrade.

Thanks so much for helping a newb out!

i am in the same boat, but i have read about ROM updates. i have a question though. the links that i see on here show two files.

update: everything went smoothly. thanks.

[jonazen]

Hey guys/gals. I am extremely new to all this mod stuff but am very interested in changing the ROM on my new Cingular 8125 to the Tmobile/Qtek ROM. I am with Tmobile and just got my unlocked 8125 this morning. Could somebody be kind enough to walk me through the steps of what I need to do? I have already downloaded the ROM file to my desktop.

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I couldnt fine a good tuturial on how to do this upgrade.

Thanks so much for helping a newb out!

i am in the same boat, but i have read about ROM updates. i have a question though. the links that i see on here show two files.

The filesizes are:
CUSTOM_RUU_Prodigy_1081002_108_10910_TMO_US.exe: 49,624,050 bytes
CUSTOM_RUU_Prodigy_2170702_217_20710_TMO_US.exe: 52,143,410 bytes

do i dl the first, install it, then dl the 2nd and install that as well or just install one? thanks in advance.

Download both. The "108" version is the stock ROM that's loaded in the T-Mobile MDA as it ships today. The "217" version is the custom ROM installer that starts with the stock Qtek 2.17 ROM, includes a hand-picked selection of the important parts of the T-Mobile extended ROM (such as the network settings for GPRS/EDGE and MMS), T-Mobile spash and ringtones, along with a couple of good free utilities and a CAB that performs some of the tweaks that have become well-known for being "good things" (such as improving performance, turning on the "E" to indicate when you're getting a true EDGE connection).

The 1.08 version is backup for you, in case you wish to fall back to the same version that comes with the MDA today. You shouldn't need it, but it's good to keep handy.

The 2.17 installer is the handiwork of generous and talented "xelencin", (Long may he thrive!). He thoughtfully included a CID unlocker as well, along with helpful prompts and warnings, making this a very straightforward tool -- IF you take the time to read up a bit, make sure you've got yourself covered in the event of surprises and proceed carefully.

[vespa]

As with the problem with Internet Explorer on the 2.17 custom rom, looks like skype no longer works as well. Anybody have any ideas on how to fix this?
Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

-vespa

[marruffo]

I downloded the ROM and installed in my MDA with no problems. I have installed other programs as Pocket Artist, Resco Explorer and Resco today's plug-in, etc.... so far... no problem. Excellent ROM.
I also seen the improvement in my battery life (finish charging this morning at 8am... and so far by 12:45... I have 100%)
Once again great job!!! :D

[jdl535]

I just did the upgrade. Was scared at the end as it re-booted and asked to calibrate the screen and nothing was happening when I touched the screen, but in about 3 minutes it worked great.

One problem: How do I copy my contacts from my SIM card to my contacts list? I can't find any way to do this now since I upgraded and my SIM contacts don't show up anymore either. Anyone help? Thanks.....

[jonazen]

As with the problem with Internet Explorer on the 2.17 custom rom, looks like skype no longer works as well. Anybody have any ideas on how to fix this?
Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

Vespa - Sorry - maybe I missed this earlier in the thread, but what's the problem with IE? I did the 2.17 custom ROM upgrade a few days ago, and IE works just fine.

As far as my Internet connections go - it seems that T-Mobile must have gotten their gateway issues from last month fixed. Back then, I had to use two different connections "settings groups". One used the wap.voicestream.com gateway and handled WAP and MMS, and the other used internet2.voicestream.com and handled HTTP, Email and other common internet protocols. Took a big of fiddling to get it all right, but it worked quite well at the time.

I checked after flashing my MDA, and noticed that the config was using a single gateway - wap.voicestream.com, for all traffic, all protocols. Out of curiosity, I tried it - and now it works just fine. I was told last month by T-Mobile that, with the total internet add-on, I'm permissioned to use either gateway. At this point, I don't know if there's a difference. Anyone with input on this, I'd be interested in knowing (e.g., perhaps one is aimed at T-Zones users and one designated for unlimited Internet plans?).

Anyway - back on topic - IE seems to work just fine with this setup under the new 2.17 ROM. What kind of problems are you seeing?

[Maddogx007]

The Newer ROM is up and working great so far...

The Original T-Mobile ROM seems to be corrupted and not available on the different links provided.

Hey Jonazen from NJ? Hello :lol: Just upgraded my MDA to the 2.17 by the way, great! But my Wi-Fi does not seem to give me same signal. It seems to be lower than normal all the time. If I stand next to my router, it was usually around 98% now it shows about 66%, and gets worse as I move away. Any advise?

Jonazen on another note, I can't get full privilages with HawardForums, after I changed my email in my personal profile. I believe from past experience, in HowardForums, if u change email you need to respond before it gives you access again, unlike XDA. But HowardForums never sent me a confirmation email. So I registered a new login, with new email, just to get in, but it did the same. So I am like guest now, and can't post or nithing. It sees me when I go there, but that's it. Can u send and email msg to admin or someone on my behalf, cause not sure their getting my communication???? Thx in advance man. P.S. you have a very nice website by the way! 8)

[vespa]

As with the problem with Internet Explorer on the 2.17 custom rom, looks like skype no longer works as well. Anybody have any ideas on how to fix this?
Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

-vespa



Thanks for your response Jonazen, I have it fixed (including the IE problem) :lol: :lol: :)


You need to make sure your connection settings are as follows:
Start----->Settings------>Connections----->Advanced----->Select Networks
Programs that automatically connect to the internet use: My ISP

Programs that automatically connect to private network: T-mobile GPRS


Wooo hooo :D


- Vespa

[Maddogx007]

Is there a way to tunr on BT without going through Comm Manager? With this ROM, pressing "Exit" on the Comm Manager interface does NOT close that app. I have to go to "Memory" and kill the app manually. Otherwise, It'll take almost 1 Mb of my precious memory.

That's interesting cause after I upgraded to 2.17 I thought this app commander was really nice program. Glad I got it with upgrade. Sorry for your problem, I know it's annoying when something does not work like it does for others, but I am not experiencing this issue at all on my MDA

Good Luck :)

[Maddogx007]

I have been enjoying this new quicker ROM for a week and just noticed yesterday that the left soft key is now linked to Phone whereas with the original T-Mobile ROM it was linked to Calender.

Is this just me or do you guys also have this change? Is there a way to remap it to Calendar?

Thanks.

That's pretty weird. I'm using the 2.17 customized ROM, and my left soft-key is still the Calendar key...

Interesting enoup after reading ur post, since I only upgraded yesterday, and had not tested this key, I jumped on it. And weird, but the phone kicked in, then the calander kicked in almost instant. Now the calander just comes up consistantly. Of course one of the nicest features of the MDA is that key changes depending on what mode ur in. Good Luck

[Maddogx007]

Finally got to load this ROM today, it's fantastic..

Everything runs smoothly and I have around 55% free'd up ram when nothing's running :D

I recommend it strongly

Let me understand this correctly cause I would kill for 55% available RAM. Out of the 64MB i was normally getting about 18-15MB left with old ROM, depending on what I was running. With new ROM I am getting about 19-20 possibly. I would kill for 35MB available RAM. What have you done differently.

[jonazen]

Hey Jonazen from NJ? Hello :lol: Just upgraded my MDA to the 2.17 by the way, great! But my Wi-Fi does not seem to give me same signal. It seems to be lower than normal all the time. If I stand next to my router, it was usually around 98% now it shows about 66%, and gets worse as I move away. Any advise?


Sup, Dog! Fancy meeting you here!

Weird re: WiFi. I seem to have a great signal with 2.17. If anything, it seems to detect new networks faster and connect really quickly. I can be anywhere in my house, on the deck or out front, and it never loses the signal.

I also like trying out WiFi connections wherever I can find them now. I haven't done any wardriving in a while, and it's SO easy now. I'm amazed at how many unsecured WiFi networks there are around here, and also how many secure ones as well. I'm seeing tons of them in most businesses and stores these days, in doctors' offices, etc.

I noticed in the "Startup Group" that there's a link that I don't remember from the old ROM -- although I could be having a Senior Moment. Do you see "WiFiInit.lnk" in your startup group? I'm guessing it fires up some kind of daemon that keeps track of WiFi connections in the area -- and I'm guessing that's why it's able to connect so quickly when I activate WiFi.

Let's see...do you have the 802.11g tweak in place?

This shouldn't affect the way WM5 reports signal strength - but ya never know with Windoze: I'm connecting via WPA/TKIP. I had read somewhere that WM5 doesn't play nicely with WEP...not sure if that pertains or not...


Jonazen on another note, I can't get full privilages with HawardForums, after I changed my email in my personal profile. I believe from past experience, in HowardForums, if u change email you need to respond before it gives you access again, unlike XDA. But HowardForums never sent me a confirmation email. So I registered a new login, with new email, just to get in, but it did the same. So I am like guest now, and can't post or nithing. It sees me when I go there, but that's it. Can u send and email msg to admin or someone on my behalf, cause not sure their getting my communication???? Thx in advance man. P.S. you have a very nice website by the way! 8)

I don't know about the email issue - so far I haven't had to change anything about my login with HoFo. Have you tried writing to them (Howard?) via the Contact/Feedback page? -


http://www.howardchui.com/modules.php?name=Feedback

[Maddogx007]

[quote=MrDva]The Newer ROM is up and working great so far...

The Original T-Mobile ROM seems to be corrupted and not available on the different links provided.

[Maddogx007]

[quote=MrDva]The Newer ROM is up and working great so far...

The Original T-Mobile ROM seems to be corrupted and not available on the different links provided..

Actually I was spending time looking around to get the courage to upgrade to the 2.17, so I just joined it, cause it would not le me download files. But I unlocked and upgraded with the RUU 2.17. I did not backup using the other techniques, too lazy to buy another SD card, and by time I convinced my brain to take a chance I was tire. Besides I don't have a contract with TMobile anyhow, and if they give me too much trouble, now I can move to another network. But I like TMobile for the most part. I am really glad I upgraded! I mean it's the ultimate hack, right? Glad I did it!

The email situation with hofo is trully weird, but so is my Wi-Fi right now on the MDA after upgrade. You know I use Wi-Fi companion, I may have to unload it and re load it, just to see. For the most part, I am having no problems with Opera, or email, I seem to be on pretty fast.

Yes I see WiFiInt.ink in startup. And I did use Tweak2k2 to upgrade to 802.11G and I just verified the registry to see it was there. What do u think?


I will wait for hofo response, or I guess will be here. You may help out though :? There was a guy I was talking to on private msg basis. He contacted me, I guess he was too shy to post. But nice guy lives in my town (Tampa). His name is Anthony. He had lots of questions, but got me going with this upgrade, cause one of his concerns was the upgrade, and I had not looked into it yet, but got it going fairly quickly. If anyone posts anything, and says his name is Anthony, let him know where I'm at.

Your like an old friend now.... Yeah, Wi-Fi popping up everythine for FREE. I was reading in pc magazine that Orlando Airport has gone completely Wi-Fi free! This trend is moving quickly. It will be no time before T-Mobile HotSpots will be cheap! Like 5 bucks a month! I hope!

[jonazen]

[quote=MrDva]The Newer ROM is up and working great so far...

The Original T-Mobile ROM seems to be corrupted and not available on the different links provided..

Actually I was spending time looking around to get the courage to upgrade to the 2.17, so I just joined it, cause it would not le me download files. But I unlocked and upgraded with the RUU 2.17. I did not backup using the other techniques, too lazy to buy another SD card, and by time I convinced my brain to take a chance I was tire. Besides I don't have a contract with TMobile anyhow, and if they give me too much trouble, now I can move to another network. But I like TMobile for the most part. I am really glad I upgraded! I mean it's the ultimate hack, right? Glad I did it!

The email situation with hofo is trully weird, but so is my Wi-Fi right now on the MDA after upgrade. You know I use Wi-Fi companion, I may have to unload it and re load it, just to see. For the most part, I am having no problems with Opera, or email, I seem to be on pretty fast.

Yes I see WiFiInt.ink in startup. And I did use Tweak2k2 to upgrade to 802.11G and I just verified the registry to see it was there. What do u think?


I will wait for hofo response, or I guess will be here. You may help out though :? There was a guy I was talking to on private msg basis. He contacted me, I guess he was too shy to post. But nice guy lives in my town (Tampa). His name is Anthony. He had lots of questions, but got me going with this upgrade, cause one of his concerns was the upgrade, and I had not looked into it yet, but got it going fairly quickly. If anyone posts anything, and says his name is Anthony, let him know where I'm at.

Your like an old friend now.... Yeah, Wi-Fi popping up everythine for FREE. I was reading in pc magazine that Orlando Airport has gone completely Wi-Fi free! This trend is moving quickly. It will be no time before T-Mobile HotSpots will be cheap! Like 5 bucks a month! I hope!

Haven't run into Anthony yet...but I just wrote to Howard, and asked for his help in getting you back "on board" ASAP....

[vikramdhani]

so finally the new rom is up and running
but i have 2 questions

1. The phone is not showing sim numbers i want the phone to show the sim number or a way to copy the numbers from the sim to the phone

2. Now after upgrading the rom those this means the phone is being unlocked and can be worked on any network or it will be only on the tmobile network like before

and one more question i dont know if this is a right place to ask but i want to know how can i make the phone able to recieve and send files using the bluetooth connection and if this is a wrong place to ask the question then please refer me to the right section

Thanks for your advice and help

[Maddogx007]

Thanks man I appreciate your help. I am going a little kokoo with this wi-fi cause I want to see my old signal strength. So I tried reloading my old backup, yes I know stupid, but I had wi-fi flying with old ROM. Well needless to say old backup did not boot up properly, kind of froze, even after several soft boots. So I coldboot device again???? And stepped on my own philosophy of installing a cab on ppc, and forgetting my own rule or hacking WM5 first so that it does not delete cab files. Needless to say, something happend and WM5 deleted the wi-fi cab file. Anyway, rather than hotsync, I used my new app NetworkLAN. Got on my home LAN and downloaded wifi cab again. But, before installing anything, I noticed in regular connections wireless lan, that the signal strength was excellent. I have not changed reg hack for G yet. What fun this is.... I tell you man once it's all working, i'm going to join a board on topics about sailing, cause these hack topics gets ur blood going, and then i want to try something new. Man normall people don't do this. I was chatting with an editor of Smartphone/Pocket PC mag, and told him they should write an article about crazy ppc user hackers like us. He was curious. I await his response. Who knows it could make an interesting article.

[jonazen]

Thanks man I appreciate your help. I am going a little kokoo with this wi-fi cause I want to see my old signal strength. So I tried reloading my old backup, yes I know stupid, but I had wi-fi flying with old ROM. Well needless to say old backup did not boot up properly, kind of froze, even after several soft boots. So I coldboot device again???? And stepped on my own philosophy of installing a cab on ppc, and forgetting my own rule or hacking WM5 first so that it does not delete cab files. Needless to say, something happend and WM5 deleted the wi-fi cab file. Anyway, rather than hotsync, I used my new app NetworkLAN. Got on my home LAN and downloaded wifi cab again. But, before installing anything, I noticed in regular connections wireless lan, that the signal strength was excellent. I have not changed reg hack for G yet. What fun this is.... I tell you man once it's all working, i'm going to join a board on topics about sailing, cause these hack topics gets ur blood going, and then i want to try something new. Man normall people don't do this. I was chatting with an editor of Smartphone/Pocket PC mag, and told him they should write an article about crazy ppc user hackers like us. He was curious. I await his response. Who knows it could make an interesting article.

It is sort of an addiction or obsession... the more I dig into it, the less I'm willing to accept things as they are when I *know* they could be better. Then I wind up staying up till 2:30am digging for answers when I know that my alarm clock is set to 6:00am...(so what am I doing now back on the board tonight???). What's "normal" anyway? I spent a few months on another board devoted to outdoor grills...and a few of us really got into modding the grills, testing and comparing the quality of the stainless steel in competing brands, experimenting with catalytic flame deflectors, mods to super-heat the grill, etc. But there was just so much time I could spend there in the end, so that's done for now (but I'm looking forward to grilling again now that it's nice out!). I'm also really into martial arts - but never found the discussions on the boards worth pursuing for long.

Anyway - this has all gotten me really interested, and it's revived my flagging interest in software (you get sorta jaded after 25 years of doing something!). The convergence of phones, mobile PC's, streaming content, WiFi - wow - there's an energy and creativity here I haven't seen in computing in a while, and despite the fact that pocket PC's and embedded linux devices have been around for a while, I think we're really coming up on an exciting period, especially as TV, Internet, 3G, 4G, etc, all start to converge...

Later...

[lanwarrior]

Do what I did: get SpB backup. It create an image of your MDA. I did the 1st hard reset, customize the PPC and create a backup image. Afterwards, I install the app. one by one and play around with it for 1 day before installing another one. If it messed up, I have a backup image and voila! everything back to normal immedialtey without a hard reset.

This are the list of apps that I KNOW (after testing and re-testing) that does not messed up my MDA:
1. Agenda Fusion (use lots of memory though)
2. Spb Pocket Plus
3. City Time
4. Fizz Weather
5. iGuidance (GPS navigation software)
6. eWallet
7. ListPro
8. Newsbreak

Now I have 2 image file:
1. CLEAN MDA which I have configured to my liking, but no 3rd party app
2. BASE MDA, which is based on #1, but with the above app.



Uninstalls really are a joke in WM5 it seems. I've gotten used to browsing the entire file structure after an uninstall, and manually deleting subdirs in Program Files links in Startup and scouting around for other application folders and files. Somebody messed up here! You would think that MS would understand uninstall requirements by now. In theory, all that *should* be needed is a list of all files and folders added by the application (along with reference counts for shared files), lists of items overwritten along with backed up copies of what they overwrite -- along with a robust uninstall routine built into WM5 that knows how to unhook DLL's, Today Screen plugin entries, and put things back together as described by the installer logs. This should be trivial after all the experience they've had with Windows as well as pocket pc.


Next time I do a hard reset, I'll capture the startup time before and after all my app installs. I'm postponing that day as long as I can, however, because it has become pretty tedious and time consuming.

All in all, with a couple of warm resets in the process, this takes WAY too long to want to do more than once in a while....after a while, the "fun" goes out of this exercise!

[lanwarrior]

Needless to say, something happend and WM5 deleted the wi-fi cab file. Anyway, rather than hotsync, I used my new app NetworkLAN. Got on my home LAN and downloaded wifi cab again. But, before installing anything, I noticed in regular connections wireless lan, that the signal strength was excellent. I have not changed reg hack for G yet. What fun this is.... I tell you man once it's all working, i'm going to join a board on topics about sailing, cause these hack topics gets ur blood going, and then i want to try something new.

What is this NetworkLAN tool?

[lanwarrior]

spb today plus
spb weather
spb backup
spb diary
spb media
these require a lot of configuration


Spb product have a "backup" configuration feature. After you install the SpB apps again, just click on "Tools" -> Restore and select the configuration file.

I know these Spb app. have it:
-Pocket Plus
-Diary

[Non_Named]

Hi all..

I tried to update but i had a bad luck.. It took forever and it's stuck at 2% for about 30 min.. Then, the computer resarted..

I tried to do it again but the CID-Unlock wont work anymore... If i choose no, then it will continue and stuck at 2% again...

Anyone know what to do?? I didn't have any backup...

Please help!!
Thanks!

[matchtrader]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but can one (or more) of you verify that when using push email, you receive vibrating alerts when a new email arrives while the device is in standby mode (i.e. both the backlight and the screen are off). Thanks.

[prestonmcafee]

Spb product have a "backup" configuration feature. After you install the SpB apps again, just click on "Tools" -> Restore and select the configuration file.

I know these Spb app. have it:
-Pocket Plus
-Diary

Thanks! Those two have backup settings, backup and weather don't seem to have them. But a backup of Today is more than half the battle.

[Pmavrovic]

I have one question about this ROM.

I have been running this ROM for about 2 weeks now and I have been wondering how to disconnect from an active GPRS/ EDGE session.

I think I used to be able to click on the connection icon and choose DISCONNECT as an option.

NOW I do not see that option anymore.

Does anyone have a workaround?

[jonazen]

I have one question about this ROM.

I have been running this ROM for about 2 weeks now and I have been wondering how to disconnect from an active GPRS/ EDGE session.

I think I used to be able to click on the connection icon and choose DISCONNECT as an option.

NOW I do not see that option anymore.

Does anyone have a workaround?

This ROM has a better Connection Manager than the old one. Try pressing button one (upper left side of the phone above the volume slide control) to bring up the Connection Mgr. One of the new icons on it is normally disabled, but becomes enabled (and shows up in green) when you have an active data connection - tapping this will shut down your data connection, and then you can exit the Comm Mgr again.

[Pmavrovic]

Thanks for the quick reply!

I will try that the next time I go online with the phone.

I really should have figgured that out already!

DOH! :lol:

[jonazen]

Thanks for the quick reply!

I will try that the next time I go online with the phone.

I really should have figgured that out already!

DOH! :lol:

Nah...lots of little details to keep track of with these releases, and Microsoft has made an art out of creating user interfaces that are totally arbitrary, inconsistent and have features hidden and strewn throughout so that it may take years to find everything you'd like to know about.

That's why forums like this are so valuable -- they're like a big group therapy session for all of us who are completely addled by Windows Mobile. We get to take turns crying, gnashing our teeth and spilling our guts, and the rest try to cheer up and encourage the one who has the floor. Come to think of it...it's almost like a 12 Step Windows Mobile Recovery program...

"Hi. My name is Jon. I use Windows Mobile 5.0"... (then everyone applauds because I'm being so forthcoming...) :roll:

[adamde]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but can one (or more) of you verify that when using push email, you receive vibrating alerts when a new email arrives while the device is in standby mode (i.e. both the backlight and the screen are off). Thanks.

In silent mode, yes. In regular mode, I get a shortened beep (as it's too sleepy to make the full sound :-)).

[Darwin22]

I got my MDA today, for some reason my computer doesn't seem to like it and I think decided to kill it.

a) went to install the 2.17 ROM, ran the unlock util at the beginning, the unlock tool crashed midway
b) figured it had worked anyway, installed the ROM
c) got DATA CRASH SIM Lock when I rebooted with the SIM in (I've tried 2 cards)
d) tried reflashing with the original ROM, no luck
e) tried running the lokiwiz utility in all ways, shapes, and forms, no luck

Is there a way to fix this or am I returning it DOA

[adamde]

I have one question about this ROM.

I have been running this ROM for about 2 weeks now and I have been wondering how to disconnect from an active GPRS/ EDGE session.

I think I used to be able to click on the connection icon and choose DISCONNECT as an option.

NOW I do not see that option anymore.

Does anyone have a workaround?

It's actually easiest to run the file from the old extended ROM which does this - Signed_DiscoButton8.sa.CAB.

[jok3sta]

Quick question. i have the 217 rom already installed but its the qtek version. can i back up my mda and install the tmobile version and the restore all the data on mine now. woudl that even be worth the hassle?

[vikramdhani]

so finally the new rom is up and running
but i have 2 questions

1. The phone is not showing SIM numbers i want the phone to show the SIM number or a way to copy the numbers from the SIM to the phone

2. Now after upgrading the rom those this means the phone is being unlocked and can be worked on any network or it will be only on the tmobile network like before

and one more question i dont know if this is a right place to ask but i want to know how can i make the phone able to recieve and send files using the bluetooth connection and if this is a wrong place to ask the question then please refer me to the right section

Thanks for your advice and help

[masr1979]

HOLY JESUS CHRIST! WOW that was interesting, I installed the rom yesterday and I can say I have never been in such suspense in my life... you guys remember how it feels when you take a plunge on a rollercoaster, well my heart was beating like that for all 15 plus mins of the instalation, thank God everything worked out, now my little bit of info to everyone, the only problem I experienced was that I tried to do a restore from a sunnysoft backup manager .exe file I had done, and I don't know exactly what went wrong, but my MDA would freeze at the start up screen, so I had to poke it for a while until I finally learned how to do a hard reset with the hardware buttons. Afterwards I installed everything manually and so far so good, thanks a lot bro, now I just await for A2DP.

[mackdss]

Hi, I was thinking of upgrading to this ROM. What program should I use to backup my ROM? I just recently upgraded my regular t-mobile radio ROM so I would not get the searching for signal problem. Is the version of the radio rom in this have the same problems? thanks so much, Mack

[killasingh]

Amazing. I upgraded on Friday and this ROM is great!

One quick question: what is the triangle image on the top of the screen next to the EDGE/GPRS status indicator? Can it be removed?

[jok3sta]

ok i switched over to this rom adn i still cannot send or recieve mms. The rom is Great BTW thanx. just need to figure out how to get mms working. any ideas

[jok3sta]

ok i switched over to this rom adn i still cannot send or recieve mms. The rom is Great BTW thanx. just need to figure out how to get mms working. any ideas

[masr1979]

ok i switched over to this rom adn i still cannot send or recieve mms. The rom is Great BTW thanx. just need to figure out how to get mms working. any ideas

Hey bro had the same problem, check your MMS settings, go to the SERVERS tab and and open up the T-Mobile MMS settings, on the "Connect via" select box pic "T-Mobile GPRS", for some reason mine got changed to "The internet" and it wasn't working either, as soon as I changed that I've been able to send and receive them with no problem. Hope this helps you out.

[marscandybars]

For the most part, I love the speed of the new MDA rom, especially the bootup time. However here are the things the bug me. Any suggestions anyone?:

1. Cannot remove battery indicatior on the top taskbar (though i found out how to get the bottom dock indicator back; leaving me with two battery indicators!)

2. The battery indicator replaces the time that used to be seen on top dock

3. Day and Date are now separated to two different lines (instead of one staight line taking up more space on the today screen and forces a scroll bar on the side

Old Rom: Monday, April 10, 2006

New Rom: Monday
April 10, 2006

Talk about ANNOYING


4. Cannot purposely disconnect from my GPRS connection (not wifi) - i was able to do this with the original rom

5. Wish it came with the OZ instant messenger (I have unlimited SMS)



If anyone knows how to fix any of these issues, please help :) (are there any other roms out there?)

[masr1979]

marscandybars, ok for question 1 & 2 look through the forums for a file called LVMTime.cab don't know where it's at exactly, but it gives you back your clock... downside is it removes your signal meter I think it was, haven't tried it myself. Question 3 & Question 4....ummm your on your own. And 5. I assume you have a data plan so why don't you download agilemessenger, it is WAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY better then the OZ messenger, plus it has google talk, XMPP (Whatever that is) and you can sign in to all services together...... well so on and so forth just try I think you will like it.

[trigeek]

4. Cannot purposely disconnect from my GPRS connection (not wifi) - i was able to do this with the original rom

5. Wish it came with the OZ instant messenger (I have unlimited SMS)



If anyone knows how to fix any of these issues, please help :) (are there any other roms out there?)

4. Hold down the "end" key for a few seconds. This will disconnect the GPRS, and it's a lot more handy than having to use the stylus.

5. You can get the OZ messenger out of the ext rom from the original t-mobile ship rom. You might be able to find the cab for it on the FTP site, too.

[marscandybars]

4. Cannot purposely disconnect from my GPRS connection (not wifi) - i was able to do this with the original rom

5. Wish it came with the OZ instant messenger (I have unlimited SMS)



If anyone knows how to fix any of these issues, please help :) (are there any other roms out there?)

4. Hold down the "end" key for a few seconds. This will disconnect the GPRS, and it's a lot more handy than having to use the stylus.

5. You can get the OZ messenger out of the ext rom from the original t-mobile ship rom. You might be able to find the cab for it on the FTP site, too.



Has anyone by chance found LVMTime.cab? Or does anyone know how to get the day and date back on one line rather than two? One of the autoinstall cab files for the new rom separated the day and date into two lines and took the time off the top dock. Right before the autoinstall starts when updating to the new rom, you can see that the day, date, and battery are in the right positions. After all automated updates are done, thats when everything gets scrambled.

[masr1979]

4. Cannot purposely disconnect from my GPRS connection (not wifi) - i was able to do this with the original rom

5. Wish it came with the OZ instant messenger (I have unlimited SMS)



If anyone knows how to fix any of these issues, please help :) (are there any other roms out there?)

4. Hold down the "end" key for a few seconds. This will disconnect the GPRS, and it's a lot more handy than having to use the stylus.

5. You can get the OZ messenger out of the ext rom from the original t-mobile ship rom. You might be able to find the cab for it on the FTP site, too.



Has anyone by chance found LVMTime.cab? Or does anyone know how to get the day and date back on one line rather than two? One of the autoinstall cab files for the new rom separated the day and date into two lines and took the time off the top dock. Right before the autoinstall starts when updating to the new rom, you can see that the day, date, and battery are in the right positions. After all automated updates are done, thats when everything gets scrambled.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=45084&highlight=lvmtime+cab

Check Bro!

[ssachita]

My device is a QTEK 9100. I was upgrading from the ROM my device shipped with:

ROM 1.1.7.5 9/22/2005
Radio: 01.01.10
Protocol: 4.0.13.16
ExtROM: 1.1.7.105

My carrier is TMobile, so I figured the xelencin TMobile custom rom that was built off of the latest QTEK would be a good bet for me. I ran the upgrade, letting it do the unlocking. The upgrade appeared to go smoothly, but when the device restarted, I didn't have an entry for my Radio ROM (GSM). I had a blank space where that would normally show. The device did the customizations and restarted, but still no Radio. No phone functionality, and it was very, very slow (5 seconds for any responses anywhere in the device). I could also not get an ActiveSync connection.

So, OK, no problem I think - I'll just go to bootloader and load the new QTEK 2.17 ROM - but then that one wouldn't load. I'm sorry, I didn't write down the exact error message, but basically it said I couldn't use the ROM on my device before it even really started to copy.

I had a pretty useless device at this point. I found someone who had a similar problem with a KJAM and this ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=267616) and he said he was able to go to the TMOBILE 1.8.10.2 ROM. So, I downloaded that one and got that one to work. So now I am at:

ROM Version: 1.8.10.2 WWE
ROM Date: 12/10/05
Radio Version: 01.09.10
Protocol Version: 4.0.13.20
ExtROM version: 1.8.10.104

I'd still like to get to an AKU2 ROM. Has anyone seen this before? Does anyone have any ideas?

pterodyne ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=267616 ) has since posted that he went to a later iMate ROM (2.16) and then was able to go the xelencin ROM from there.

Does this sound like a reasonable approach for me? Or should I just try the QTEK ROM or the xelencin ROM again?

Thanks for any help!

[alltime]

I have an unlocked Qtek 9090. Is there anyway to get to install this update so I can get all the t-mobile bells n' whistles? My service provider is T-mobile.

[jiprice8888]

Another satisfied customer, as the flash went absolutely without a hitch on my MDA. Only one note or warning. I apologize if I missed this somewhere further up the thread, and I have since found a reference to it in another thread, but do NOT try to restore data, apps and settings from an SPB backup after flashing the ROM. Spb Backup actually warned me against restoring, because it recognized the flashed MDA as being a different device, but I ignored the warning and ended up with a device that booted essentially to a blank screen and then hung. After a hard reset using the CommMgr + VoiceRecorder button combination, I reloaded everything from scratch. Time consuming, but I'm back in full working order.

[vikramdhani]

HI
i uploaded the new rom and everything seems to fine but i m having a problem now the part where the service signal and battery meter is not visible it is covered by the base color

can someone please help coz it is giving me alot of trouble figuring out how much battery is left

Do need help badly on this

Thanks in advance

[jcleek]

...everything seems to fine but i m having a problem now the part where the service signal and battery meter is not visible it is covered by the base color...

I have exactly th esame behavior.

[ascssmith]

Hey did the rom upgrade, works like a charm... Piece of cake to do, less then (10) minutes.. battery seems to be NOT draining anymore, will let you know tomorrow...

thanks....
:lol:

[jcleek]

This is what my bar looks like. Notice the circled area in the upper right corner:

http://www.getcis.com/MGN_Images/bar.jpg

Does anyone know why and/or how to fix?

[jcleek]

Problem solved. I would guess that vikramdhani is using the Registry Wizard program from here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0). If so go to the TWEAKS2 tab and check the TASKBAR DATE/TIME option and select CLOCK. After the reset your bar should show the whole signal and the battery.

[ascssmith]

anyone know how to import a host file, as i use ping a lot for my wan. tried looking all over unit, can't find out where the host is located...


AL

:roll:

[markgamber]

Do a search here or google for "Pocket Hosts". I suppose it's in the registry somewhere but I forget where and that app makes it a whole lot easier to do hosts entries.

[KwaZyLiLoBoY]

can i use this for my o2 xda mini s?
if yes do i need to CID unlock it? and do it with or without sim card?
if it fails or i dont like it, can i revert to my old o2 AKU2 rom?

thanks

[ascssmith]

hey did upgrade yesterday, now today when i started up phone, worked great, then locked up and will not boot beyong password lock?

please don't tell me i have to rebuild?
:x

[ascssmith]

ok, hard reset was last thing i could do, so i did it. phone is working.. has anyone else had this issue with this phone?

anyway to tell why it happened?

[KwaZyLiLoBoY]

okay. so i went ahead and upgraded my o2 mini s to the custom mda rom. everything runs fine. BUT.. the internet still doesnt work.. :x .. it could connect and everything but stays on the Locating status or whatever its called.. i have unlimited tzones.. it works on my other phone (Samsung e730 and motorola a1000).

i have inserted my SIM card into it and my sisters SIM from her SKII.. same results.. anybody have the same problem? or at least know of a fix?

[KwaZyLiLoBoY]

whee.. i got it to work.. so happy. but.. i find it slower.. i think its because i been using the wifi on it more recently.. but all good..

proxy server instead of it being 216.155.165.050 ... changing it to 216.155.165.50 works.. -_-

[Sonicos]

Unfortunately, it appears that along with the 2.x flash, you can no longer use the availablt tools to change the boot screen (the ROM one). I'm curious what the password is so that I can repack the ROM with my own boot screen.

[xelencin]

Unfortunately, it appears that along with the 2.x flash, you can no longer use the availablt tools to change the boot screen (the ROM one). I'm curious what the password is so that I can repack the ROM with my own boot screen.

What password?

All you have to do use is crete nk.nbf and package your own boot screen nb/a into a ruu installer and you can install just the boot screen(s).

[domer]

Has anyone had problems with Wifi synch after loading this ROM? I can sync perfectly through USB, but when I unplug, Activesync cannot connect.

I'm using a PEAP connection validated through my AD credentials. Also, it looks like I can surf the web once I get a wifi connection, but when I run Activesync I lose that ability too. Is Activesync foobaring my wifi connection somehow?

[xelencin]

I've been patiently waiting for a new rom version to come out so I can make a new installer package, but since nothing seems to be happening I may end up making a revised / second version of my 2.17 rom install. There are a couple more registry tweaks that I would like to include with my ROM (such as removing menu animations, turning up cache sizes by default, storing IE data on memory card) and I may possibly even include additional software.

Do you guys think I should keep the rom in the lite state its in (the only third party software installed is pocket commander) or should I possibly include something more? What would you guys like to see?

[ascssmith]

Please blue tooth for music... I think they call it ad2p....

8) :roll:

[jonazen]

I've been patiently waiting for a new rom version to come out so I can make a new installer package, but since nothing seems to be happening I may end up making a revised / second version of my 2.17 rom install. There are a couple more registry tweaks that I would like to include with my ROM (such as removing menu animations, turning up cache sizes by default, storing IE data on memory card) and I may possibly even include additional software.

Do you guys think I should keep the rom in the lite state its in (the only third party software installed is pocket commander) or should I possibly include something more? What would you guys like to see?

I've been searching for ROM releases every couple of days and haven't seen anything new... I hope they have more planned.

In the meantime, your cooked ROM is great, and I like the idea of extra features and tweaks -- but if there's some reasonable way of making some of the tweaks discretionary that would be nice. Not sure everyone who can make use of the ROM will want all the specific tweaks you like to include.

[jcleek]

If you do make a new version perhaps you could look at the sounds configuration? There seems to be an issue when changing from no sound/silent notification/sound in that the device forgets you want sound AND vibrate at the same time. I have reflashed my Wizard twice with this ROM and both times it has exhibited the exact same behavior.

[ewb110]

For some reason I can't upgrade my ROM version on my new MDA from T-Mobile (got it last week).

I'm not sure if this is correct....but when I upgrade to the 2.17 Wizard ROM (file RUU_Prodigy_2170702_217_20710_TMO_US.exe). Here's what happens:

FROM:
MODEL ID: WIZARD
IMAGE VERSION: 1.2.0.0 (strange that it doesnt show 1.8.10.12)
LANGUAGE: ENGLISH

TO:
MODEL ID: Prodigy
IMAGE VERSION: 2.17.7.2
LANGUAGE: WWE

It boots to BootLoader screen (USB in the corner)....then just stalls at 0% for about 3 minutes...then it comes back with Error Connection [264]. There's absolutely no information out there for this issue.

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLPPP PPPPPPPPP!

CURRENT ROM INFORMATION:
ROM Version: 1.8.10.12
ROM Date: 12/10/05
Radio Version 01.09.10
Protocol Version: 4.0.13.20
ExtROM version: 1.8.10.104

[ascssmith]

I have same mda, i upgraded it about (2) wks ago, no issue. I'm upgrading (2) more, i have same issue?

:roll:

[ascssmith]

well just upgraded 2nd unit of 3 no issues at all...

:wink:

[SorcererXIII]

I've been patiently waiting for a new rom version to come out so I can make a new installer package, but since nothing seems to be happening I may end up making a revised / second version of my 2.17 rom install. There are a couple more registry tweaks that I would like to include with my ROM (such as removing menu animations, turning up cache sizes by default, storing IE data on memory card) and I may possibly even include additional software.

Do you guys think I should keep the rom in the lite state its in (the only third party software installed is pocket commander) or should I possibly include something more? What would you guys like to see?

I just got my MDA and haven't installed the update yet, but I think I'd prefer a choice between either

a. A "generic" ROM without many new additions save those that aren't easy to obtain on your own (like Java)

b. A "deluxe" ROM with new additions


I have no idea what the ROM build process is, but if you're feeling ambitious, maybe you could create an install-wizard-like app - with checkboxes, etc. - that automatically compiles a ROM including whatever software the user checked off.

[cuboosh]

after upgrading the main rom is it recommend that you upgrade the 'radio rom' ?

[Dutchmda]

this is a very minor question but is there anyway to remove the "Remove_Power_Tray_Icon.cab" i would prefer my battery meter to be located in the bottom tray next to comm manager icon any hints? Also custom ROM is great, I would like to see the bluetooth stack in the updated version if you can. And I would like to say you guys are doing great things with this forum I truely appreciate all of the efforts and support that I see here. Also I do work for T-Mobile USA so if anyone has any questions feel free to ask.

[Dutchmda]

Ok just found something else. When using modem link to establish a modem connection to the web from my mda, the modem link access point doesnot update nor allow me to change it. With t-mobile now uses internet2.voicestream.com as the access point for web use with the mda. it is a much more stable and faster edge/gprs connection. any insight on a fix?

[SorcererXIII]

Ok, just did my update. Way easier than I thought it would be - just run aWizard and follow the directions to backup the phone, then run installer posted at the top of this thread.

I haven't had the phone long enough to know whether the update is really faster or not, but I'll take everybody's word for it.:) There is more free storage (about 5 megs), and some more free program memory (about 2 megs), which is nice. What was it being used for before??

Total commander is way better than the included file browser - meaning it actually works like a PC's windows explorer in the details view as opposed to the icons view, and lets you resize the columns to your liking.

The right half of the battery icon at the top seems to be missing. Unless this is a very non-standard battery icon - I will try that date/time registry fix someone else mentioned in this forum.

Google maps crashes every time at different points, usually before I can do anything useful with it. This is from a fresh install with nothing else added save for google maps. I read somewhere that IBM's midlet manager works better with google maps - I might try that later.

I'll post more as I come across it, plus any fixes.

[SorcererXIII]

after upgrading the main rom is it recommend that you upgrade the 'radio rom' ?

It looks like the radio rom gets installed automatically.

[gbedi]

Hi, after updating to this ROM, I am having a very difficult time connecting to WiFi connections. Is this a known problem with this ROM? Anyone else have this experience? Anyone have a fix to this issue? Thanks.

[jonazen]

Hi, after updating to this ROM, I am having a very difficult time connecting to WiFi connections. Is this a known problem with this ROM? Anyone else have this experience? Anyone have a fix to this issue? Thanks.

WiFi works beautifully for me with the 2.17 ROM...(also with the 802.11g hack)...

[jpflaw00]

another happy upgrade...i have yet to test it out...i'll post any info if i find any consistencies...thanks for the effort...

[SorcererXIII]

Hi, after updating to this ROM, I am having a very difficult time connecting to WiFi connections. Is this a known problem with this ROM? Anyone else have this experience? Anyone have a fix to this issue? Thanks.

I don't know if it was caused by the 2.17 update because I'd only had my phone 2 days before running it, but I did have a lot of wifi issues. Enabling 802.11g seems to have fixed it. Here is how to do it:


1. Add the following to the registry (the Total Commander included in the 2.17 custom should have a registry editor):

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\COMM\TIACXWLN1\PARMS:
DWORD dot11SupportedRateMaskG=8

(Note that there is already a key in the registry called "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\COMM\TIACXWLN1\PARMS: DWORD dot11SupportedRateMask=1" - you should leave this alone)

2. Do a soft reset.

3. Go to your wi-fi settings -> Power Mode tab -> Best Performance (without this step wi-fi still didn't work for me)

Let us know if that works . . . it seems to have made a world of difference for me (I'm using a d-link DI-624 router with WEP encryption, for the record).


If you're reading xelencin, this might be a good thing to add to your next custom ROM (assumming people don't start reporting that it bricked their MDAs).

[jonazen]

[quote=gbedi]
3. Go to your wi-fi settings -> Power Mode tab -> Best Performance (without this step wi-fi still didn't work for me)
...snip...
If you're reading xelencin, this might be a good thing to add to your next custom ROM (assumming people don't start reporting that it bricked their MDAs).

All good info...but PLEASE don't make "Best Performance" an automatic change in the cooked ROM. That will certainly eat the battery faster than the default (which is midway between "best performand" and "best battery", and for many of us the power boost is NOT necessary. I've been using the cooked 2.17 for week, did the 802.11g mod myself, and have my wireless LAN "power save mode" still in the default, center, position. Works BEAUTIFULLY in public hotspots as well as at home with my Belkin Pre-N router F5D8230-4. Good to document the tweak if somebody needs it, but I suggest that we shouldn't compromise battery life as a default, since this WiFi boost isn't a universal need...

[Pmavrovic]

this is a very minor question but is there anyway to remove the "Remove_Power_Tray_Icon.cab" i would prefer my battery meter to be located in the bottom tray next to comm manager icon any hints? Also custom ROM is great, I would like to see the bluetooth stack in the updated version if you can. And I would like to say you guys are doing great things with this forum I truely appreciate all of the efforts and support that I see here. Also I do work for T-Mobile USA so if anyone has any questions feel free to ask.

Has anyone figgured out a way to remove the battery bar from the top of the screen?
I have tried many things to no avail.
Thanks in advance for any help.

[masr1979]

How can something so simple and small, just so ordinary be such a tremendous PAIN IN THE ASS! man it's just so freaking annoying seeing that battery icon there, defenetly looking forward to being able to wipe it off the face of my MDA, oh and another thing I want to be able to do is extend the keyboards backlight, I may not know what I'm looking for or what I am doing, but I'm going to start looking at the registry for something that might help.

[marco777]

thx a lot~~
i just upgraded~~~

[xelencin]

this is a very minor question but is there anyway to remove the "Remove_Power_Tray_Icon.cab" i would prefer my battery meter to be located in the bottom tray next to comm manager icon any hints? Also custom ROM is great, I would like to see the bluetooth stack in the updated version if you can.

If you don't remove the power tray icon it will be both in the tray and the taskbar at the top, why have 2? I just found out the new BT stack is available and I plan to add this to my next rom version.

With t-mobile now uses internet2.voicestream.com as the access point for web use with the mda. it is a much more stable and faster edge/gprs connection. any insight on a fix?

This is incorrect. I work for T-Mobile and we are told to make sure customers use the wap.voicestream.com APN. If you do not use this APN your MMS will not work. Performance wise there isn't and shouldnt be any difference between the wap APN and the internet2/3 APN.

[ascssmith]

xelencin, thanks again for all the correct information... 8)

can't wait till you incorporate microsofts new BT...

AL

[wongerbonger]

is there a way i can get this upgrade with OZ messanger still on it ? :D

[masr1979]

is there a way i can get this upgrade with OZ messanger still on it ? :D

Download the T-Mo extended rom from the ftp site, the file is called TMo-US-Ext_ROM.zip if I remember correctly; though, you may want to look into agile messenger, much better IM client, and unlike Oz messanger it doesn't use you text messages (just in case you don't have unlimited texting).

[masr1979]

is there a way i can get this upgrade with OZ messanger still on it ? :D

Download the T-Mo extended rom from the ftp site, the file is called TMo-US-Ext_ROM.zip if I remember correctly; though, you may want to look into agile messenger, much better IM client, and unlike Oz messanger it doesn't use you text messages (just in case you don't have unlimited texting).

[AndreasD]

I just found out the new BT stack is available and I plan to add this to my next rom version.

Will this new BT Stack improove A2DP quality ? mine seems to only stream in about 96kbps or less (lots of hissss). I had on my XDA II a BT stack hack that streamed A2DP at 192kbps... hardly no hissssssss at all.

If that is the case i am all exited for the new version you put together for us ! Thanks a bunch in advance :)

[wireless_one]

That's just my opinion, but I've been running your current custom ROM and it is great. A bit of memory leak, but nothing major. Taking advantage of some of the recent improvements would be great.

As for tweaks, instead of defaulting to some of the ones you mentioned, there is a program on here I believe called RegistryTweaks, which I used before I flashed with your rom. If it is still compatible and stable, I'd suggest including that in your build. It would allow users to more easily customize the tweaks they want. For any tweak not in that program, you could just default the setting to your liking, while leaving the others to the individual. Again, just my opinion. Also, tweaking the camera settings from the default to the more recent (and better settings) would be a happy addition.

Thanks for doing all this hard work. If ever in Phoenix, it would be my pleasure to buy you a cold one!! :D

[masr1979]

....As for tweaks, instead of defaulting to some of the ones you mentioned, there is a program on here I believe called RegistryTweaks...
Yup totally agree, two registry edits that come to mind that you could, outside of putting in nicodekker's Registry Wizard, are the gps icon (at least in my MDA the Reg Wiz option isn't working), and the wireless/bluetooth status today plug-in. Let's not forget levenun's LVMtime, personally I love that photo dialer today plug-in as well, but I'm not so sure everyone would like it.

[jpflaw00]

what photo dialer today plug-in are you talking about? i have been looking for something like this to display a larger photo of the contacts that call me...much help would be appreciated

[masr1979]

what photo dialer today plug-in are you talking about? i have been looking for something like this to display a larger photo of the contacts that call me...much help would be appreciated

That's not what it's used for, this displays a strip of selectable pictures from your contacts on your today screen, then you just need to click on your contacts face to initiate a call. Your lookin for something more along the lines of Photo Contacts Pro, don't know of any free app that can do what you want; although, I must admit haven't looked to hard. I use Photo Contacts Pro and it's pretty nice. It can show the incoming caller id in different sizes including full screen, try it out you might like it.

[jpflaw00]

yea i have read about it from another topic, but no one has found a better one than that one i guess...that one seems to use a lot of mem, but i guess i'll give that program a go now...anyways thanks for the reply...

[masr1979]

Or you could try this one, don't know how it is since I haven't tried it

http://www.handango.com/PlatformProductDetail.jsp?siteId=1&osId=864&jid=X14B1X98XB221XEC17AXX5E3C59419A8&N=4294922656&Ntt=caller%20id&productId=177063&R=177063

Let me know how it is if you do try, mayb I'll switch.

[jpflaw00]

sure i'll try it out and i'll let you know how it is :)...of course i have to get going with the pictures because all i have been taking pictures of are random things instead of photos for my contacts :oops:

[jcleek]

You can also check out Photo Contacts (http://www.pocketx.net/products/photocontacts_ppc/).

http://www.pocketx.net/products/photocontactspro_ppc/screenshots/screenshot7.jpg

[jpflaw00]

yea i have photo contacts pro...it's really nice...now i just need to take pictures so i can use the program properly lol...i basically have my mda set where i am fully satisfied...i'm still adding tids and bits, but with everything that xda-develpers has offered i'm pretty much happy with the whole setup...now i'm getting sprite software's pocket backup plus 5.01 so i don't have to worry about installing programs and editing registries, etc...

[wireless_one]

:lol: I'LL ANSWER JENNIFER'S CALL ANYDAY!!! :lol:

[jonazen]

:lol: I'LL ANSWER JENNIFER'S CALL ANYDAY!!! :lol:

*sigh* I know that I certainly would too!

Wow... 8)

[masr1979]

She looks so..... slutty.................................... I think I'm in love :D

[jonazen]

Whatever you call it...it works for me! :D

[olea555]

Wow I cannot believe I just read all 9 pages of this topic!! I recently got a Tmobile MDA and was looking for cool things to do with it. So far I have update the rom and install many applications. I am just trying out a whole lot of applications then seen which are stable and work and which do not. I have done so much with this phone it is incredible. I plan on doing a hard reset and reloading everything from scratch again with only the applications I have decided to be useful and stable. I will post a full report on everything I install at the end it hopes it helps. Currently I have made a list of bugs that were already posted on this forum and I have verified, not all of them are bugs more like things that change or don't work after updating rom to 2.17:

- password prompt not accurate (if you set it to 0 it will still prompt you after a minute and when I set it 15 mins it still wasnt accurate)

-"The other thing is the battery icon in the title bar. It obscures the date/time that i had displayed there." (to me this wasn't a big deal, i love using MS voice to ask it what time is it)

-"the only factory installed app that that i notice missing is the instant messaging package. ""it is in the old extROM called Signed_OZPocketPC.Cab." (I actually miss this feature as I use to use it but many have recommended Agile Messenger so im going to give that a shot.)

-A problem that I noticed many were having in this forum and no one posted a resolution to was the problem where some were unable to update the rom. You would start up the program and it would say do you want to unlock the phone then you say yes and nothing happens. Well I was having the same issue which was my computers protection blocking it for some reason. I disabled my Norton Antivirus, as well as the section that stops scripts from running and I also had to disable Microsoft Anti-Spyware then the install was successful.

- I saw a couple poeple complain about not being able to use the wifi after the upgrade but this did not occur to me. Wifi worked great! how ever I will do more testing.


If you think this is a lot of info I have a lot more and will probaly create a new thread so that newbies can have an easier time doing what they want to do. I still consider myself somewhat of a newbie I have only had this phone for less then 2 weeks but after spending hours on this site among others I have learned a lot more. I hope this helps

[skot]

thanks for all the info. ill be looking foward to you upcomming topic :)

[rambo6]

Does this ROM has A2DP and AVRCP? If not, what would it take to add it?

I'm currently using the QTEK 2.8 TEST ROM with the features I wish above. To change from WiFi to GPRS and back, I need to change the settings and soft reset. It's a hassle. How is this supposed to work with the TMO ROM? Can one just turn on WiFi and bam he's there?

I'm using TMO and their unlimited data plan with hotspots. This noobie needs advice.

Thanks

[masr1979]

Thanks for all the info olea, just in case if you want to get rid of the battery icon on the taskbar get LVMtime.cab, and if you want the battery icon next to the commanager find PowerTray.exe in the \Windows folder and place a shortcut in the start up folder, just in case you or anybody else find the info useful.

@ rambo6- there is a hack that enables A2DP I can't testify to it working cause I don't have a BT Stereo headset, but many if not all that have tried it said it works, as far as AVRCP not sure, but I don't think so, oh and as far as wifi goes, yeah, at least for me as soon as I establish a wifi connection my phone uses that instead of GPRS.

[ascssmith]

rambo6, as far as your question about wi-fi... YES...
I have 2.17, i just go into comm mgr, tap wi-fi and off i go.. no soft-reset...

:P

[yowzator]

I also had a seamless upgrade. Just did it last night and things have been running nice and snappy since. Some of the little issues I was having are now gone. Thanks for a superb ROM!

Regarding WiFi -- I am having a problem with it. I'm not testing with a TMo hotspot, and I actually think that would work without any problems. But I can't just turn on wifi and automatically use my home network. I've tried everything that I could find and it just doesn't work. It works if I manually select my networks using the Connections advanced tab. But it doesn't switch between wifi and gprs seamlessly based on if wifi is turned on or not.

The following post has all the info about what I and others have tried to get seamless Wifi working:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=284834#284834

[xelencin]

I've had some free time and a new custom t-mobile rom is in the works. Feature wise I still plan to keep it small but new things will appear and needed tweaks will be made. If all goes well it should be released by this weekend.

Do you guys think I should include the hotspot login utility or not? Me or none of my friends personally use hotspot service, and I know you can just login to a hotspot through IE.

[ascssmith]

xelencin, thanks for all the work...

I myself never use hot-spot, but as you said, if we need it, we can use IE to log-in..

A2DP ?

:roll:

[masr1979]

excellent news xelecin, I'll be looking forward to it :D

Oh and regarding hot-spot loggin, whatever works for you. I don't really know anyone who uses them either.

[xelencin]

A2DP ?



As I said, some new things are coming.

FYI I plan to make the Hotspot utility removable if possible, if I include it.

[ascssmith]

oh baby, can't wait...

thanks again for everything... 8)

[kuroshiro]

xelencin, most excellent work.

However, I find that the phone now thinks it's roaming all the time, even thought I'm a T-mobile customer. Is this a side effect of unlocking the phone?

[rxr]

xelencin, most excellent work.

However, I find that the phone now thinks it's roaming all the time, even thought I'm a T-mobile customer. Is this a side effect of unlocking the phone?


How old is your Sim card? If u were a voicestream customer and still have the old sim card this could be the cause, thats what happened with me. I went in to Tmo and they got me a new one for free, no more triangle

[kuroshiro]

xelencin, most excellent work.

However, I find that the phone now thinks it's roaming all the time, even thought I'm a T-mobile customer. Is this a side effect of unlocking the phone?


How old is your Sim card? If u were a voicestream customer and still have the old sim card this could be the cause, thats what happened with me. I went in to Tmo and they got me a new one for free, no more triangle

Brand new, came with the phone, I migrated from Walk (I mean Sprint) to T-Mobile to get it. :)

[i3onk]

Can I get someone to post the ORIGINAL TMO ROM version #'s for me please?

IPL
SPL
GSM
OS

Im running some tests to make sure I can flash back to OEM ROM. Love 2.17, but want to run the tests just in case I need to return, replace, repair, or flash the (eventually released) new TMO ROM.

[jlzhisname]

I have to stay with the old ROM for Goodlink to work but i need this cab. I love the mods!

thanks!

Wizard_Registry_Tweaks.cab – Enable Cap/Sym keyboard icons, hide SIM contacts, enable EDGE icon, disable message sent notification. This can be uninstalled.

[wireless_one]

xelencin, most excellent work.

However, I find that the phone now thinks it's roaming all the time, even thought I'm a T-mobile customer. Is this a side effect of unlocking the phone?


How old is your Sim card? If u were a voicestream customer and still have the old sim card this could be the cause, thats what happened with me. I went in to Tmo and they got me a new one for free, no more triangle

Brand new, came with the phone, I migrated from Walk (I mean Sprint) to T-Mobile to get it. :)

Did you go to settings - phone - network and set your network? It should have done it automatically, but you may look there . . .

[kuroshiro]

xelencin, most excellent work.

However, I find that the phone now thinks it's roaming all the time, even thought I'm a T-mobile customer. Is this a side effect of unlocking the phone?


How old is your Sim card? If u were a voicestream customer and still have the old sim card this could be the cause, thats what happened with me. I went in to Tmo and they got me a new one for free, no more triangle

Brand new, came with the phone, I migrated from Walk (I mean Sprint) to T-Mobile to get it. :)

Did you go to settings - phone - network and set your network? It should have done it automatically, but you may look there . . .

when I first figured out what the icon meant, it was set to automatic, then I switched it to manual T-Mobile before I posted originally, but it had no effect.

[dulyang]

My sincere appreciation goes to the creator of this ROM.
I just received my T-Mobile MDA today.
I put the Custom ROM and it's blazing fast.
Previously I had O2 XDA Mini S.
Even without installing the O2 stuff, this ROM is much faster than O2 AKU2 ROM.
Now I'm just waiting for Buzz to revise the Extended ROM unlocker to work on ROM version 2.
Once again, thank you.

DulYang

[Oneaboveall]

Hey guys I'm new here, so of course I screwed up my MDA. I didn't do the 2.17 update I downloaded the RUU updater and updated the rom to 2.21 but then after all was said and done it told me DATA CRASHES. PLEASE CONTACT YOUR SERVICE CENTER. What do I do now? Then I flashed it to the 2.17 thinking it was the Rom. Same thing happen. Then thinking I'll just download the original Tmobile rom the same thing happen. So now my MDA doesn't do anything. I can't find any signal nor can I make calls or connect to anything. What did I do wrong? Is the sim card supposed to be in the phone while update? Whats funny is when the sim card is out of the phone the error message goes away. I even used my wifes sim card and nothing....what can I do? Does anyone have the original Tmobile stock rom? I'm hoping I can send this MDA back since I've only had it for 3 weeks and they'll send me a new one. Please someone help I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

[optical]

Same here. Tried to upgrade my friend's MDA and I got Data Crash error. After hours of downgrade/upgrade between the original and 2.17 it's still stuck on that error.

I wonder if there MDA has changed internally (sim lock code or somethign) that may have caused this.

I upgrade mine when mda came out and it had no problems. Strange.

[soundboy]

My MDA has sound problems so I needed to flash to original....

I used wizbackup... it suggested I need to flash to 1.01 IPL,

I still have

OS: 2.17.7.2
GSM: 02.07.10

But I cant use any rom flashing stuff cause the 1.01 IPL is not working with AS at all.

When I send this to t-mobile what will happen? I can't even get the orig rom back on, I made a backup with wizbackup but it seems that they didn't think out the restore properly. the restore or my unawareness of some details has hosed my machine.

BTW IPL 1.01 and
OS: 2.17.7.2
GSM: 02.07.10 is NOT ok. Battery management doesn't work, constant problems.

[whalien]

hi,

i'm new to the MDA. i know this is overly obvious to everyone, but i've read through this entire post and still haven't got a clue how to do this. is there a thread out there that goes through the entire process from start to finish, with detailed instrustions and definitions about what is going on when you do the upgrade?

i'm on T-Mobil in the US, just bought the MDA last week and it just seems really slow. especially surfing the web.

any insights or advice would be greatly appreciated.

whalien

[tekchic]

whalien, it's really quite simple. I flashed mine successfully yesterday as well. Steps taken:

1) Read all 10 pages of this post. It's worth it to know what you're dealing with. I took notes.

2) Download the ROM

3) Sync with Active Sync

4) Double click the exe

5) UNLOCK phone first (if you've never flashed before)

6) Follow the steps that are on the ROM to the letter....really it's bulletproof in my opinion -- all you have to do is read what's on the screen and follow along.

My MDA was crashing 6, 7x a day with that horrid original ROM that I got from TMo. Gave up and flashed to 2.17 yesterday and it's the best thing I've done since I bought the phone. I'm back to enjoying it again!

Like having the "E" instead of the "G", since being in Phoenix it's always on Edge (at least 99% of the time for me).

Thanks to Xelencin for coming out with such a fantastic ROM release. You saved me from tossing my phone away on a desert hike :)

[mlukens2]

Trashed my wizard, need the Oz im client cab for my phone. Anyone know where I can get it?

[mlukens2]

I've loaded the oz client in my Art WM5 it runs but comes up with a communications error when I go to the registry settings they are:

AutoSignIn False
DomainSelector
MSISDN 1231231234
Network http://wirelessvillage.t-mobile.com
Password 0f 0d 03 39 55 c0 fd 3d
SavePassword True
Sound True
Username mlukens2

Any Ideas why it wont connect

[Ray_jai]

would this rom work on my cingular 8125? sorry im a noob here. i just discovered this. thanks
the cell phone store unlocked my phone for me, so i can use my t-mo USA sim.

edit, i held on to my balls and gave it a try, and it worked, but nothing works now, i can't go online or make phone calls?
help?

[smpjungle]

This ROM will work on your 8125, but I think after the customizations run, everything will be configured for the T-Mobile network. You can hard reset your phone (by holding voice-command and comm-manager buttons while pressing the soft reset button, and then keep holding the vc and comm buttons until it prompts to format the fat partition - let go of the buttons and press send). After it finishes formatting, soft-reset right before it does the customizations. I think you'd have to put in your own mail and GPRS settings after that. Or you could just install Summiter's custom 2.25 ROM beta, which is newer than this one. You can get it at the following link. It's based on a Cingular ROM, so it should work for you right after installing without any special configuration. You might want to read the topic HERE (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=51714&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=125) for updated info on it.


ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Wizard/Roms/Cingular_RUU_225111_BETA_Custom_A2DP_THMS_RNGRS.ex e

[xelencin]

It's time to put this thread to bed everyone. A newer rom version is available AND there will be an even newer one within the coming weeks.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50365&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[Ray_jai]

This ROM will work on your 8125, but I think after the customizations run, everything will be configured for the T-Mobile network. You can hard reset your phone (by holding voice-command and comm-manager buttons while pressing the soft reset button, and then keep holding the vc and comm buttons until it prompts to format the fat partition - let go of the buttons and press send). After it finishes formatting, soft-reset right before it does the customizations. I think you'd have to put in your own mail and GPRS settings after that. Or you could just install Summiter's custom 2.25 ROM beta, which is newer than this one. You can get it at the following link. It's based on a Cingular ROM, so it should work for you right after installing without any special configuration. You might want to read the topic HERE (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=51714&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=125) for updated info on it.


ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Wizard/Roms/Cingular_RUU_225111_BETA_Custom_A2DP_THMS_RNGRS.ex e

no im using a t-mobile service, but i have a cingular phone, cuz i like how the cingular one looks. so how do i fix it to work with t-mo?

i followed the t-mo site for the gprs. no luck...

[smpjungle]

xelencin has it configured as a T-Mobile USA custom ROM. It shouldn't require any additional configuration. There are some cabs you can run to set it up for T-Mobile here (http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8210&d=1142933927) and running them seems to get things right for working on T-Mo. Again, however, I believe xelencin's ROM is preconfigured, so I don't think you really need those cabs. And, like xelencin said, there's a newer custom ROM avail from him right now, (and hopefully the 2.25 coming shortly), so I wouldn't get too comfortable with 2.17 anyway.

[Ray_jai]

thanks, but i can't use IE for the MSN thing.
i have the 5.99 t-zone plan.

thanks

[smpjungle]

thanks, but i can't use IE for the MSN thing.
i have the 5.99 t-zone plan.

thanks

What do you mean? Maybe I'm off... do you mean you can't download the zip file because of your rate plan? Can't you download it on your pc and unzip it, and then xfer the cabs over to your device? Or are you talking about something else?

[Ray_jai]

im trying to access the web with the built in IE and the built in MSN thing. but it can't. the gprs isn't working. my friend said he did it with no problems. thanks

[cngracing]

Just upgraded w/ 2.17 a few weeks ago...GREAT ROM!!! NO PROBS!! THANKS!!!

[cngracing]

Just upgraded w/ 2.17 a few weeks ago...GREAT ROM!!! NO PROBS!! THANKS!!!

[Ray_jai]

y does it say calendar? and not calender?

[adamb2k6]

because that's how you spell calendar