TomTom v5.00 with US Maps and Bluetooth working.....

[bilbo_28]

After reading may threads on here about people not being able to get TomTom working with US maps once they have upgraded to v5.21 I thought I would look in to a way around the troubles.

Here is what I think peoples problems are:
1. Bluetooth GPS could not be paired under TomTom v5.00
2. Cracked versions of maps or even maybe real v5 maps of the US don’t work under v5.21

People want US maps AND Bluetooth GPS i.e. numbers 1 AND 2, but can't find a way to have their cake and eat it.

After many installs and trials of TomTom v5 and v5.21, I think I have just hit upon a solution. The basis of the problem is that TomTom v5 does not let you use a COM port that your Wizard lets you set, so how do you fix this.....

- I installed TomTom v5 as per the many sets of instructions on the forums, ie copy CAB files to your SD card and install.
- Next pair your BT GPS to COM port 8.
- Run TomTom and set up as normal, when you get to the GPS setup, select COM port 2
- Close TomTom
- Copy navigator.cfg (installed in /Program Files/Navigator) to your PC
- Using a hex editor edit navigator.cfg
- Change ONLY the entry for the number after the work COM to 8 (or what you set the COM port to above)
- Copy the file back to the original location
- start TomTom

You should see that the BT GPS is now recognised; also you should see that you can select all the maps that you have installed.

I have not tested that the BT GPS works in the UK and the US ‘cos I can’t be in 2 places at once, but I hope that some of the US users can verify this before I move out mext month.

Let’s hope this is the final answer I have been looking for :)

[weevel]

Wow. That's great, thanks for that.

i've just spent the last week with the Bluetooth problem, only to realise about an hour ago that I had the answer all along and I was just too stupid to realise.

In case anyone out there has been battering their head on their laptop in frustration (and is similarly mentally challenged as myself), I have a hint for those using the not entirely legal version of TT.

If you have the one marked 5.21 or have one which has 5.00 and 5.21 exe files in the zip somewhere, you need to copy across the cabs (as described on many forums - I have messed about so much I can't describe a full process to get to where I am now but I'll try to summarise below)

Once the cabs are copied, version 5.00 will work OK but will have the BT COM port problem.

Then stick the 5.21 cracked exe into the Program Files\Navigator folder ( i did not delete the old one, just renamed it incase it went wrong) and then when you run the new one it runs as before but with the COM port options.

My mistake was when I first got the files, I tried running the exe on my PC and in the phone. It doesn't work until you have the cracked 5.00 app already working and only then if you stick it into the Navigator folder.

Sorry if this is just stupid but I have browsed god knows how many forums over the past 2 weeks and so many people seem to be having similar problems (some with genuine tomtom and some not saying but hey, if they had paid for it in the first place the upgrade would be easy, right??).

I'll try to summarise the steps I took to get mine working (these are my best guess of the basics to get it working, skipping the hundred other things i have tried which failed to help.

1. installed cabs (WZD, GPS, PINAddIn & my desired Voice) from pocketpc and voice folder BUT had problem with ttn cab as just gave 'unsuccessful' message
2. Copied maps into storage card in their respective folders (NB apparently need to have at least 2 maps to get it to recognise them, if you only have one just copy the folder and rename one of them)
3. Downloaded WinCE Cab Manager (freeware for first 15 uses) from OCP
4. Opened ttn.cab in WinCE Cab Manager and extracted exe and data.chk file and put into Navigator folder in Program Files

at this point the 5.00 version should load, set up maps and voice and works fine apart from GPS

5. Rename (or delete) the TomTom Navigator.exe and replace it with the 5.21 one from the cracked folder.

all the GPS stuff should be easy from there as COM port 6 should show up (and is covered elsewhere anyway)

I think that's the essential points. There is a lot of superflouous stuff that comes with TomTom that you don't need to get the main function working so that's why there is a minimum of installs.

If there's anything I missed, please correct me.

Anyway, I am now only 1 step away from being able to us the darn thing after 2 weeks of trying.

The main reason I got it was to navigate in Germany when I go on holiday in June as I have a few serious days of driving and want to be able to navigate easily.

I have been able to get my Germany and Great Britain maps working fine but as I live in Australia, I want to get used to using TomTom now with my Australia maps...BUT THEY WILL NOT LOAD!!!

They show up on the screen when I pick my maps but the screen just freezes when i select Australia.

Any ideas???

[pewe]

Heres a navigator.cfg already set to use com port 7.


Anyone with v5 can set their outgoing port on the BT device to port 7 and replace their .cfg file with this one and it should work - I just tried it.

[Centurion]

Bilbo...you are my new hero.

I'm really glad to know that my $100 and 4 hours of hacking around with this thing weren't all in vain. Thank you SO much.

<3 <3 <3 8)

[rags_999]

hi pewe,

thanks for the post. have got the same com port problems and breaking my head over it trying to get a rikaline gps work. could please please post a detailed answer on what to do with the file u have posted. i copied the file over the one i had in the pda but now have lost com port 4 and no 7 has appeared. please help
cheers, many many thanks.



Heres a navigator.cfg already set to use com port 7.


Anyone with v5 can set their outgoing port on the BT device to port 7 and replace their .cfg file with this one and it should work - I just tried it.

[rags_999]

hi weevel,

looked at your post. have the same problem. would have a copy of the cracked 5.21 exe. cant seem to find one and unable to work my tomtom. have got the cracked 5.0 working properly but no gps. pleeeeeeease help.
cheers.




Wow. That's great, thanks for that.

i've just spent the last week with the Bluetooth problem, only to realise about an hour ago that I had the answer all along and I was just too stupid to realise.

In case anyone out there has been battering their head on their laptop in frustration (and is similarly mentally challenged as myself), I have a hint for those using the not entirely legal version of TT.

If you have the one marked 5.21 or have one which has 5.00 and 5.21 exe files in the zip somewhere, you need to copy across the cabs (as described on many forums - I have messed about so much I can't describe a full process to get to where I am now but I'll try to summarise below)

Once the cabs are copied, version 5.00 will work OK but will have the BT COM port problem.

Then stick the 5.21 cracked exe into the Program Files\Navigator folder ( i did not delete the old one, just renamed it incase it went wrong) and then when you run the new one it runs as before but with the COM port options.

My mistake was when I first got the files, I tried running the exe on my PC and in the phone. It doesn't work until you have the cracked 5.00 app already working and only then if you stick it into the Navigator folder.

Sorry if this is just stupid but I have browsed god knows how many forums over the past 2 weeks and so many people seem to be having similar problems (some with genuine tomtom and some not saying but hey, if they had paid for it in the first place the upgrade would be easy, right??).

I'll try to summarise the steps I took to get mine working (these are my best guess of the basics to get it working, skipping the hundred other things i have tried which failed to help.

1. installed cabs (WZD, GPS, PINAddIn & my desired Voice) from pocketpc and voice folder BUT had problem with ttn cab as just gave 'unsuccessful' message
2. Copied maps into storage card in their respective folders (NB apparently need to have at least 2 maps to get it to recognise them, if you only have one just copy the folder and rename one of them)
3. Downloaded WinCE Cab Manager (freeware for first 15 uses) from OCP
4. Opened ttn.cab in WinCE Cab Manager and extracted exe and data.chk file and put into Navigator folder in Program Files

at this point the 5.00 version should load, set up maps and voice and works fine apart from GPS

5. Rename (or delete) the TomTom Navigator.exe and replace it with the 5.21 one from the cracked folder.

all the GPS stuff should be easy from there as COM port 6 should show up (and is covered elsewhere anyway)

I think that's the essential points. There is a lot of superflouous stuff that comes with TomTom that you don't need to get the main function working so that's why there is a minimum of installs.

If there's anything I missed, please correct me.

Anyway, I am now only 1 step away from being able to us the darn thing after 2 weeks of trying.

The main reason I got it was to navigate in Germany when I go on holiday in June as I have a few serious days of driving and want to be able to navigate easily.

I have been able to get my Germany and Great Britain maps working fine but as I live in Australia, I want to get used to using TomTom now with my Australia maps...BUT THEY WILL NOT LOAD!!!

They show up on the screen when I pick my maps but the screen just freezes when i select Australia.

Any ideas???

[pewe]

but no gps

Have you tried V5 with the navigator.cfg fix discussed here

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46828&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[rags_999]

hi pewe,

is it the reg editing u are reffering to in that forum. please let me know.
cheers


but no gps

Have you tried V5 with the navigator.cfg fix discussed here

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46828&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[pewe]

You can try that - but the easiest solution to try first is the one where you set the GPS in TT to any port, setup the BT device config to outgoing port 7 then replace the navigator.cfg. That seems to work for most people.

[rags_999]

hi pewe,

another small issue. us maps dont work with 5.21 upgrade. is it a question of downgrading to v5 before a trip and borrowing a friends tomtom reciever to work there and come back change again or is there anither way.
cheers

[crazybrker]

I have tried that with my Cinular 8125 (WM5), in TOMTOM set the gps to com 2 then switch the cfg file adn it still doesnt work, i have MS streets and maps working fine, so i know the GPS is good.

I have a new idea lets work with 5.21 and see see what version map it reads then edit our usa maps and change the version. Has anyone tried this, ive been looking all over for a TOMTOM map editior, but no luck. I have all the USA maps so if you need one let me know

[asriel]

Heres a navigator.cfg already set to use com port 7.


Anyone with v5 can set their outgoing port on the BT device to port 7 and replace their .cfg file with this one and it should work - I just tried it.

Hi,

Have tried replacing my cfig file with the one you supplied but this hasnt worked...my version of tomtom however appears to be 5.1
Do I need a different Cfig file for this version ?

Many thanks

Steve

[pewe]

Do I need a different Cfig file for this version

Not sure - I've never used V5.1.

What com ports does TomTom offer you when you try to configure the BT device?

[asriel]

Do I need a different Cfig file for this version

Not sure - I've never used V5.1.

What com ports does TomTom offer you when you try to configure the BT device?

Config within Tomtom offers -
COM9:
Infrared Port
COM3:
COM0:
COM2:
Serial Port

[pewe]

These are the 'normal' options - so I can't understand why it doesnt work.
Are you sure that the BT is setup on your device as com port 7?
If it is and it doesn't work, try setting it to com port 6 and try this config file.

[asriel]

These are the 'normal' options - so I can't understand why it doesnt work.
Are you sure that the BT is setup on your device as com port 7?
If it is and it doesn't work, try setting it to com port 6 and try this config file.

Certain my BT device was set to Com port 7, still tried this alternative Cfg. file and changed port to 6 with the same result in that options within tomtom remain unchanged as stated before (assume the expected result should be to provide additional Com ports within tomtom Configure screen to enable selection of Com port 6 ?)

[pewe]

Not sure then.
Maybe V5.1 has some differences about it.

[asriel]

Not sure then.
Maybe V5.1 has some differences about it.

Cheers anyway...

Other forums suggest that installing the V5.2 update from tomtom will fix the comm port bug....not sure however if this will wreck all the files I have so painstakingly installed. Any ideas if running the tomtom update is safe ?

[pewe]

Not sure - it depends what you have installed. Some have reported problems with Maps from V5/V5.1, but mainly in the US. Mine went from V5 to V5.2 without a problem.

If you backup everything before you upgrade you can always re-install..

[blobbypants]

I have TOMTOM 5.21 on IPAQ in the UK and wanted to load the Michigan Map for a business trip that I have next month.

Having downloaded the USA Maps I spent all day trying to get TOMTOM to recognise the USA Map with no luck.

Read all the forums and tried one or two tips but to no avail. Then I tried something quite simple.

1. Install all the way to 5.21 in order to get Bluetooth GPS working. Once done this makes the correct .CFG file.

2. Simple back up the 5.21 executable or rename.

3. Copy the cracked 5.0 executable into the navigator directory. Voila ! It retains the Bluetooth settings AND it allows me to load the USA maps.

Wont be able to properly confirm the USA maps work 100% till next month but UK map work just fine and when I load the michigan map it lets me browse but cannot plan a trip cos GPS says I am out of the scope of the map.

So looking good.

[KINetics]

Just wanted to thank pewe for his config file workaround. I can confirm that it works for TomTom v5.0 US maps.

[floepie]

I can confirm that if you want to use your v5 USA maps that all need to do is use the 'navigator' config file from the ttn.cab installed from the *5.21 upgrade* in order to get your BT GPS working. And, in order to use the USA maps, you cannot use the 5.21 tomtom navigator.exe. Therefore, you must use and extract the tomtom navigator.exe and the data.chk from v5.00 using the forementioned cab manager.

Curiously though, on my Axim x51v, the BT port I must select in Tomtom is an *incoming* BT port, which on my device is com 8. Because it's an incoming port, it is device-independent. Of course, my GPS is paired, but it's kind of odd that the device-dependent outgoing port doesn't work for me.

[famoussoftguru]

Hello,

Please help, i was able install Tomtom, but unable to find MAP. thanks

[eilz]

I have the same problem of no map found, have checked all obvous settings and tried different maps, non work/pickup.

[eilz]

I have the same problem of no map found, have checked all obvous settings and tried different maps, non work/pickup.

[floepie]

OK, for whatever reason, I cannot get the voices to work with v5, but they work with v5.21. I need to get v5 to work for the USA maps.

I use the cab install, and the data07.chk installs to the Tomtom folder on the device just fine, however no voices can be selected within the app itself!

What the heck am I doing wrong? This worked before with v5, so I have no idea what's different this time.

What are the .vif files used for? Are they required on the PPC? I've added the .vif and the .wav file, but that didn't work.

Only v5.21 can recognize the voices....strange.

[floepie]

Sorry, found it. v5 requires a 'voices' folder on the root of the device, whereas v5.21 does not.

[bakasamaz]

After what I've been through just to make Tomtom working on my Tmobile MDA, finally the Great day is here... :D This little bad boy is loaded up and ready to navigate anywhere I go. 8)
Here is my Succesful steps w/h my "Backed up" Tomtom5:
-Install "Backed up" tomtom5 (I have v5.0)
-Download Legally "Backed up" tomtom5 (v5.21) from www.torrentspy.com
-Copy&Paste all the files from "Backed up" tomtom5 (v5.21) that you downloaded (remember you have to have tomtom5 product!)
-Download Crack for tomtom5 (v5.0)
-Copy&Paste the files from Crack into directory where tomtom5 installed (it's your PocketPc's directory)
-Download Navigator.Zip (I think the file is somewhere in this forum)
-Go to Com Manager/Bluetooth setting and ADD new partnership with your Bluetooth GPS
-After that set outgoing Comm to your Bluetooth Gps onto Port 7(com 7)
-ignore the incoming comm
-Load up Tomtom5 and have fun

If you need files that I mentioned above ! you could PM or email me

[bakasamaz]

I need the latest USA Maps (California is good enough) Please someone who kindly enough to share it.

[bakasamaz]

hey guys I have tomtom5 running and working. The only problem that bug me is navigator.cfg
I dont know if its only me, but sometimes after softreset my tomtom will not communicate with my bluetooth gps (Holux gpslim 236) whenever this happens i have to re-copy&paste navigator.zip that pewe provided. Is there any solution?

[bakasamaz]

hey guys I have tomtom5 running and working. The only problem that bug me is navigator.cfg
I dont know if its only me, but sometimes after softreset my tomtom will not communicate with my bluetooth gps (Holux gpslim 236) whenever this happens i have to re-copy&paste navigator.zip that pewe provided. Is there any solution?

[omino_ribelle]

Hi guys...
i read the 3d trying modify TT5 in order to let it work with bluetooth device without succes.....
i've
Imate Jam
TT Navigator version 5.000 (4980)
Driver GPS v1.20
Map Italy v562

when i try to configure BT in TT5 i can set following ports:
Infrared port
Com9:
Internal Modem
Serial cable on COM1
COM4:
COM5:

but when i setup the BT device in win2003 i can set only COM0:
.......
so TT is not finding any GPS device......

any suggestion? file to download? step to follow?....?

thaaaanks a lot!!!

[buono]

I have had a working 5.21 for a while now. I want to use the device in Germany for the world cup so I got hold of a german map.

I copied the new map to a folder in the root of my SD card, same location as my GB map (which works, no problem).

When I try to switch maps, the only map it can find is the GB one.

Has anyone resolved the 'cannot find maps' issue?

[danum]

Map folders must be in the root directory, not another folder. Other than that your German map may be too old for TTNv5.21 (it will work with v5.0). The German map needs to be v562 or higher. Open the .pna file in the map folder with notepad to see the version number.

[buono]

The map version is 562.

My GB map is in a folder called Great-Britain-Map in the root of my Storage Card. The German map is in a folder called Deutschland-Map in the same location.

Still no luck though.

[danum]

The map version is 562.

My GB map is in a folder called Great-Britain-Map in the root of my Storage Card. The German map is in a folder called Deutschland-Map in the same location.

Still no luck though.

Please confirm Deutschland-Map folder is in the root directory.
The .pna file should be
ID=Deutschland.PNA
1944945990
562
If different try paste this into your .pna. Seen this trick work before. Backup your original .pna first.

[buono]

Yes, structure of Storage Card is :

Root
>Great-Britain-Map
>Deutschland-Map
>Italia-Map


But can only read the Great Britain Map.

Deutschland.pna reads:

ID=Deutschland.PNA
1930484377
562

[danum]

Deutschland.pna reads:

ID=Deutschland.PNA
1930484377
562

That info is in my old map that does not work with TTN5.2 except the version number is different.
This stuff gets tampered with all the time. Have you tried the copy and paste trick I suggested?
Or unzip and swap your .pna with this.

[buono]

Thanks, but no luck with that file.

Interestingly, I have Iberia-map which does work but none of my others.