IDA Pro 5 Demo and WM5 Problems

[Rymez2K]

I have been trying to get the new demo version of IDA to connect to my WM5 Qtek S200 with no luck.
When I click on attach it sends across wince_remote_arm.dll
then I get cannot invoke server.

If I add the reg key in HKLM\Security\Policies\Policies then it will connect and immediatly kill the ActiveSync connection and I have to unplug/replug in the USB cable. It also displays the following message.
irs_recv:An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host.
I can however debug .net apps and do the usual active sync transfer files etc.

Anyone have any thoughts on what to try?
Thanks
Pete

[KTamas]

I think you have to enable RAPI, there is a cab for it on the forums or on the FTP, search for it, I think it is enable_rapi.cab.

[ady]

^^ exactly... just run it on the device and it will connect

[Rymez2K]

I have tried the above cab file and unfortunately still no luck.
It still dies when connecting, and the green activesync icon changes to grey and the "irs_recv:An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host." messagebox is displayed.
Strangely I can get it to connect to and debug the emulator.
Anyone have any other suggestions.
Thanks
Pete

[mamaich]

I use full version of IDA (you can find it on chinese warez sites), ARM debugger extracted from demo version of IDA, cert.SPCS.cab, EnableRapi.cab, and HKLM\Init\RequireCertMods=0.
IDA connects and works.

[Chatty]

I use full version of IDA (you can find it on chinese warez sites), ARM debugger extracted from demo version of IDA, cert.SPCS.cab, EnableRapi.cab, and HKLM\Init\RequireCertMods=0.
IDA connects and works.

Uhhmm... which site exactly? And why doesn't it containt the debugger?

[Guybrush]

i have the same error "irs_recv...." anyone found a solution for it ?

[mamaich]

i have the same error "irs_recv...." anyone found a solution for it ?
Solution is 2 posts upper.

[Guybrush]

I tried... Installed cert_SPCS.cab, EnableRapi.cab changed registry value but always same message :(

[Guybrush]

can you give me your security policies values under

HKLM/Security/Policies/Policies/

Thanks in advance.

[fratele13]

I'm trying to run the IDA debugger on a Cingular 8125. It gives me the exact same error.

I have these values in the registry:
HKLM/init/BootVars/RequireCertMod = 0
HKLM/Security/Policies/Policies/00001001 = 1
HKLM/Security/Policies/Policies/00001005 = 40
HKLM/Security/Policies/Policies/00001017 = 144

I've installed EnableRapi.cab and Cert_SPCS.cab, but it still doesn't work.

Has anyone found a solution for this?

[sars]

Same for me :(
I did all the same actions but it still doesn't work :(

Anyone?????

[georgel]

I think the problem is a result of some incompatibility of ida's debugger dll under OMAP 850 cpu...Therefore I use m$ deviceemulator which is VERY slow.

[sashje]

I had problems aswell with my devices... And after this last post.. i tried a WM device without a OMAP 850.. And it worked fine for me... on every OMAP850 device i tried .. i get the same error as you guys have reported..

So I must agree with george that OMAP850 is the problem

[georgel]

sashje, the problem is in IDA debugger's CPU detection routines. I've even reported this to IDA "support" but they paid no attention to my words.

[accepted]

you must download CE Debugger for windows ce if have it you must test another version of it you can download directly from datarescue

[georgel]

accepted, as far as I know even the latest versions of IDA 5 are bundled with an old ARM remote debugger dated from 2005...I bet that presently there is no such working version with OMAP CPU, but I would take my words back if only you could have pointed out the links for the downloads you meant.

[accepted]

if u changed your WM to unofficial WM
if u have any problem with pointers and breakpoints
if u have any connection error
you should test another version of CE Debugger On IDA PRO 5(my current version)

i have this problem with my device(Axim X30)
i changed CE debugger and work truth now
if you want some version of CE debugger i can give u
please use private messages
thanks
regards

[georgel]

accepted, your axim has Intel PXA270 (at 624MHz). We are speaking about Texas Instruments OMAP CPU problems lately here - so your remarks are quite incompetent. There is no version of this arm ida remote debugger dll that can work with OMAP CPU. If you have one (I'm sure you don't) please share it with all of us.

[accepted]

oh man i am sorry

i don't read carefully

IDA PRO do not support OMAP and only support ARm version

only support ARM(CE debugger)

sorry again

[accepted]

i contacted IDA support and wrote for me
Hello Accept,

Monday, January 29, 2007, 1:10:38 AM, you wrote:

A> in the page( http://www.datarescue.com/idabase/ida.htm) wrote :
A> Latest Support Resources Using the ARM/Windows CE remote debugger
A> if you support OMAP please give me your link in your website
A> thanks
A> regards

if it is compatible with arm processors, we probably support it

-- Best regards, Ilfak mailto:ig@datarescue.be

[georgel]

That kind of pseudo support I was talking about. Tell them that OMAP is ARM compatible CPU, but IDA remote debugger is not ARM compatible :) Now I can say without hesitation - DON'T buy IDA...

[the-equinoxe]

That kind of pseudo support I was talking about. Tell them that OMAP is ARM compatible CPU, but IDA remote debugger is not ARM compatible :) Now I can say without hesitation - DON'T buy IDA...

I use a wm5 emulator to be debugged by IDA pro.
Just "crade" the emulator, then remote-attach or run-remote the IDA-pro (version 5.0.0.879) remote windows CE debugger.

This way I don't mess up my wizard when experimenting..

[georgel]

Yes, I do the same but the deviceemulator supports only ARMv4T architecture that does not have hardware breakpoints. Xscale cpus have. I also wonder why this emulator does not have an internal debugger which would have been the best reversing tool for ARM...I think it has but is not public...

[accepted]

i retry contacted Datarescue and wrote for me

EM> That kind of pseudo support I was talking about.
Tell them that OMAP is ARM compatible CPU,
but IDA remote debugger is not ARM compatible
Now I can say without hesitation - DON'T buy IDA...

Sorry, technical support is for our customers.

[NuShrike]

Doesn't look like the remote ARM debugger supports the Qualcomm MSM7200 cpu either; same irs_recv error for IDA Pro 5.2