S100 > S200 Worth the upgrade ?

[gregory_marsh]

Well this is what I have been deciding for sometime now.

And here is my verdict:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=48608

[TheBrit]

I think it's worth it. Orange now have upgrade stock and I've ordered my M600 today. My M500 will probably appear on eBay in the next few days.

Someone else in our office has just got an M600 having upgraded from the M500 and he really likes it - and so do I. Since I'm due for a free upgrade I thought - what the heck...go for it. 8)

[FFVIII]

I never had S100 but I still have my old 9090. I think you should go for it. The new WM5 is faster, cleaner and more stable (no more soft reset). And not being worried about losing everything when the battery dies. As for the processor, it is right, the S200 is a bit slower, you’ll feel it while playing movies with tcpmp. But using an overclocking app. Will fix it.

[duncan888]

if you encode your video correctly, eg in 320x240 res, video playback is no problem whatsoever without overclocking

[ingenious]

Indeed!

The gadget it nice, small, stylish black (at least are the XDA Neos), definitely better than the Wizard, and has no problems playing movies without overclocking if encoded with PocketDVDStudio.

It is THE phone!

P.S. The Start and OK/Close buttons are life-savers 8)

[TheBrit]

I've now upgraded and it was definitely worth it. 8)

[gregory_marsh]

When playing movies shot with my Canon Ixus @ 320x240 the Charmer stutters and the S100 does not.

Why would I want to 'upgrade' to something that I need to 'overclock' to get to the same speed that I have already ?

I think I will wait till the next version !

Hopefully they will have sorted it by then.

[duncan888]

I would just upgrade again when the next model is out :lol:

[Jorgee]

Why would I want to 'upgrade' to something that I need to 'overclock' to get to the same speed that I have already ?


I think it is something like this... Let's say I have a Pentiun III (256MB) with Windows 98SE(WM2003SE Device) and I upgrade it to WinXP (WM2005 Device) .... I believe I WILL have to overclock to have same performance speed when let's say opening a document, or starting a game.

I don't know but i believe it is WM5 that is slowing the device down. I guess that's why even if were in 2006 there are still computers running Windows 98. So i guess you are right. If you don't need (yet)the advantages that WM5 brings then you could wait for the next generation Processors so that it will run "at par" as the S200.

I came from a h6340 (OMAP 200Mhz WM2003) to the Universal (Intel 520Mhz WM5) and no matter how you look at it, the Universal is so much faster than the HP h6340.

Oh, BTW... out from the box, the universal was "kinda" slow and I would classify it as a little non-responsive when opening a lot of programs at same time. Now though after a few ROM updates, everything is running quite quick.

[montana]

First of all, no need to overclock. The processors arent from the same vendor, so dont look too much at the "Mhz".

I had a S100, and now got a 200, the 200s processor is definetely Not worse than the S100.

In my opinion, its worth it! The one thing I miss on my S200, is Project VCABT, I really hope these talented guys will fix it asap :)

[Looking Glass]

First of all, no need to overclock. The processors arent from the same vendor, so dont look too much at the "Mhz".

I had a S100, and now got a 200, the 200s processor is definetely Not worse than the S100.

In my opinion, its worth it! The one thing I miss on my S200, is Project VCABT, I really hope these talented guys will fix it asap :)

Some items might be a matter of taste, but some are critical.

- The machine IS slower than an JAM
- It hangs, at least so often as the JAM, or more frequently should I say.
- I had to hard reset the first day of usage: A clock alarm remained somehow turned on and sounding every few minutes. No way to disconnect the thing..... even after a Soft Reset
- Battery life is shorter.... (It may be my unit, but it's way shorter than my JAM one year old one....)
- BT worries remain the same as in older models (JAM, etc)
- Lots of Apps simply don't load or don't work
- It's a more radical change than XP was, and less documented and user-conscious than it should.
- Phone caller ID is worse. Pictures are unreadable on screen. No options.
- Phone directional keys don't work as expected.
- ¡Notes on contacts are limited in size!
- flimsy pen

Really, very disappointed.... :evil:

On the plus side: WIFI, look, screen, more ergonomics for one hand use... not enough

[Looking Glass]

First of all, no need to overclock. The processors arent from the same vendor, so dont look too much at the "Mhz".

I had a S100, and now got a 200, the 200s processor is definetely Not worse than the S100.

In my opinion, its worth it! The one thing I miss on my S200, is Project VCABT, I really hope these talented guys will fix it asap :)

Some items might be a matter of taste, but some are critical.

- The machine IS slower than an JAM
- It hangs, at least so often as the JAM, or more frequently should I say.
- I had to hard reset the first day of usage: A clock alarm remained somehow turned on and sounding every few minutes. No way to disconnect the thing..... even after a Soft Reset
- Battery life is shorter.... (It may be my unit, but it's way shorter than my JAM one year old one....)
- BT worries remain the same as in older models (JAM, etc)
- Lots of Apps simply don't load or don't work
- It's a more radical change than XP was, and less documented and user-conscious than it should.
- Phone caller ID is worse. Pictures are unreadable on screen. No options.
- Phone directional keys don't work as expected.
- ¡Notes on contacts are limited in size!
- flimsy pen

Really, very disappointed.... :evil:

On the plus side: WIFI, look, screen, more ergonomics for one hand use... not enough

[coolfire74]

Some items might be a matter of taste, but some are critical.

- The machine IS slower than an JAM
- It hangs, at least so often as the JAM, or more frequently should I say.
- I had to hard reset the first day of usage: A clock alarm remained somehow turned on and sounding every few minutes. No way to disconnect the thing..... even after a Soft Reset
- Battery life is shorter.... (It may be my unit, but it's way shorter than my JAM one year old one....)
- BT worries remain the same as in older models (JAM, etc)
- Lots of Apps simply don't load or don't work
.....
- flimsy pen

Really, very disappointed.... :evil:

On the plus side: WIFI, look, screen, more ergonomics for one hand use... not enough

I think you might need to return your unit and get a replacement. Something must be wrong with your unit, or might because of some programs you installed on it?

I had a XDA Neo (same as S200) with JAMin WWE ROM for more than 2 month. The XDA Neo runs very fast and smooth. I never got any problem with it. I normally run multiple programs (2-5) at the same time. For example, media player to listen to mp3s and watch ebooks, and also have the dictionary (Lexisgoo 2.0) running. I never had complaints about the speed. The OMAP CPU is defferent than Xscale, you can not compare them by MHz.

I did not reset the unit in more than one week. The unit never (or at least rarely) hangs. Extremely stable. So, I guess you must installed some program not very compatible with your unit. I have installed more than 20 programs on it, but of course, I tested more than probably 40 programs in my first month after I got this unit, and deleted all the other programs which I believed it made the unit unstable.

I am also pretty satisfied with the battery life. It can last about one week (or at least 4-5 days) for regular use, if I do not use it for long time (more than 30-60 minutes talk) chat on the phone.

The BT is very stable. I use it to connect to my car (I have blue tooth system in my Prius), and it worked beautifully. But to save the battery, I normally turn the BT off when I get off the car.

Sometimes, I guess, you really need to test all the programs you installed. A lot of programs may not work right for WM5, and I also found that some programs it actually may work for WM5 (according to online info or reviews), but it did cause problems on my unit, and made the unit not very stable. You have to spend sometime to figure out. After you done this, you can always use the same programs on it, just keep updating when new version coming out. That is what I did for all my PDA phones.

Hope it helps.

By the way, I am using the overlocking now (252 MHz), and the unit runs even more faster and stable.

[Looking Glass]

Hi!

I agree that no comparison is good based on Mhz, I know about it, but things are slower. Example: after a soft reset, (Several times a day) just accesing a contact whose name begins with "Z" in a 3000+ contact list, takes .... almost 20 seconds!

Loading TomTom 5? some 30 seconds before getting back the control of the thing. Never mind of using the TT5 if you receive an incoming call while tt5 loads..... it will be gone! An I have more than 39 Mb free memory!
Screens redraws that you can "see" almost by the pixel, etc. And I have just 6 apps loaded, tt5, Check Point, Pocket Earth, and a couple of games, none of then running altogether, but for the tt5-check point combo.
I know I can not return my unit for servicing just based on those problems.
:evil: :evil: :evil:

Or could I?