SPV M5000, (imateJAsJAR) problems...anyone help ?

[mstar]

hi guys,

just got my M5000, however i got 2 questions, its driving me mad and losing faith with my new purchase fast :(

I am a new owner so be gentle :)

1. Programs are still running, when i close them if i look in settings-->system--->memory, running programs still has programs running! do these stay forever? and i have to close them in here EVERYTIME?

2. do you guys have to reset the machine every so often? seems bizarre coming from a nokia phone. Is it normal to reset the phone?

[jasonkruys]

1. The programs will stay running, they are designed to. Windows Mobile (5 in this case) will manage the memory, and when more is required, it will close down programs automatically.

There really is no need to keep closing them usually, unless you are about to do something where you specifically need a large amount of memory, and want to be sure...

2. What particular problems are you having that are requiring you to reset the device? I havent reset mine in weeks, maybe we can help? Define 'every so often'. Remeber, this is basically a mini PC running windows you have here, and as such will need to be restarted at times, just like your home pc.

[mstar]

thanks for the reply :D

1. ok a bit flawed wn5 design but i see why MS did it :twisted:
any cheap utility i can use thats reliable and safe?

2. i say 1 a day, but i play with it a lot as i only got it on friday evening

[richardlai]

thanks for the reply :D

1. ok a bit flawed wn5 design but i see why MS did it :twisted:
any cheap utility i can use thats reliable and safe?

Spb Pocket Plus is my favourite for this kind of stuff. It gives you shortcut buttons on the Today screen, as well as a Close button that really closes the programs, Safe Mode booting, etc.
They charge USD 24.95. Check it out here: http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/pocketplus/?en

[matt1971]

thanks for the reply :D

1. ok a bit flawed wn5 design but i see why MS did it :twisted:
any cheap utility i can use thats reliable and safe?

2. i say 1 a day, but i play with it a lot as i only got it on friday evening

Hi,

Only had mine about 4 weeks - however have been using PPCs for about 8 years.

I have always been a loyal fan of pocket plus - but find it just too slow on the M5000. I have replaced all of that functionality with magic button(free), small menu(free-there is a plus version for a fee) and apreminder+(free)-all take much less space than ppc+!

Magic button allows you either close the app or minimise and even if you choose to close apps you can build an exception list just in case you want to leave any open!

At first I had to soft reset my device at least six times a day when i was messing around installing apps etc - now i would say its about 1 a day maybe every other day - it is quite stable, and with wm5 you never have to worry about loosing data if the battery gets disconnected or run down.

When I switched from Nokia - 2 things hit me battery life and soft reseting.

Matt

[mstar]

yer matt you notice these things when u move from a establised phone maker like Nokia.

However what is magic button? sorry me a newbie M500 owner :D

[matt1971]

yer matt you notice these things when u move from a establised phone maker like Nokia.

However what is magic button? sorry me a newbie M500 owner :D

http://www.trancreative.com/mb.aspx

There you go - also has an option to soft reset your device so you dont have to keep prodding that hole - mind looks damaged already!

BTW :

apreminder+ is a repeating alarms utility (You'll notice that clock alarms repeat ok, but alarms for tasks or calender appts - do not repeat even if the option is checked!! - Its a long standing fault of wm2003SE and has reoccured in wm5) The only problems (but its free) with apreminder+ is dont change options whilst in landscape view - (switch first) and for some reason it repeats the reminder sound during the clock alarm.

small menu - this basically replaces the start menu and with alot of playing around you can basically customise it so all favourite apps are a click away!

others might have different views on better apps but these suit my needs.


Matt

[BudgieUK]

You might want to check out Wisbar Lite (really cheap if not free ... cant remember) here (http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/products.php?prod=WisBar+Lite)... its a great application manager (so you can close apps if you want to) and it features a really cool battery manager (just uses the top 2 rows of pixels at the top of the screen).
They do a Wisbar Pro (or something like that) that is said to provide really nice skins for the device.... never tried it though.

[richardlai]

I have always been a loyal fan of pocket plus - but find it just too slow on the M5000.
Now that you've mentioned it, I do agree with you about Pocket Plus' performance on the Universal, especially the close button - if I have 2 or 3 programs running in the background, the close button menu can take up to 5 seconds to open up!

But I do like its Safe Mode feature... Any recommendations for this one? :D

Thanks for the list of freebies too. :o

[matt1971]

[quote=matt1971]

But I do like its Safe Mode feature... Any recommendations for this one? :D



Good point....The safe mode saved me from hard resets at least twice on my M2000. My device had locked up due to messed up today plugins - which I think is the main reason for a safe mode!!

Catch22 really:

Keep PPC+ but suffer performance (that 5 secs nonsense to open running programs really got to me) but be safe in the knowledge that if your today plugins screw up you have a way out.

OR

Dont bother about the safe mode and always remember to backup before installing today apps.

Personally, I have sprite backup, takes about 5mins to backup and restores prefectly when needed and dont forget M5000 has persistant storage so not likely to lose data if you have a device lockup.


Matt

[simon_darley]

I have always been a fan of spb, in fact have installed PP, diary, backup, gprs, weather.

howwever in the end, I have decommissioned all of them as the total drain on performance was frustrating.

I turn them on again when iget bored and want a change.

SPB PP runs much faster as a today plugin without the extras enabled.

the reason I mention it now is that without all the extra features, plug ins etc, I can just leave all the running programs as it will only zap my memory from 30mb to 20mb, thus leaving plenty of breathing space. however with all the plugins loaded I would start at 20 dropping to below 10 thus taking quite a memory hit.

my resets are also reduced using the basic device to once per week compared to once per day.

but as I said, I am a sucker for plugins and new stuff so I use them, then get frustrated and go back to the basic device.

my 2 bobs worth...