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krale
26th May 2006, 09:06 PM
Hey guys, I'm satisfied with almost every aspect of the prophet, except battery time...

I mean in suspend the battery is great. But what if you want to do any real work on the prophet? This is what I get:

Screen off, Wifi on (useful for skype, IMs etc.)
3.45 hrs from full charge

Screen on, all else off (word processing, games etc.)
3.50 hrs from full charge

Screen on, Wifi on (email, internet)
3.40 hrs from full charge


Now tell me if this is not too little?

This is off course with normal battery.

MRT
27th May 2006, 12:16 AM
You could set your screen to the lowest brightness that you can use also set the wifi to its lowest power setting these 2 functiions are the biggest users of power in my view

sibere
28th May 2006, 10:41 AM
Radio ON, Wifi OFF, Screen backlight at level 2 or 3 (when outside). Some data connections, few Wifi cnx too (then turned OFF), 1 or 2 syncs using Bluetooth and my SPV M600 battery runs about 5Hrs according to my "upmeter" ( free at http://ae.inc.ru )

You can buy on Ebay a 1800mah bat. (50% more power than the original bat.)

farbird
28th May 2006, 11:17 AM
just curious,

do u have phm traylaunch enabled ?


mine sux the juice out of my prophet whenever I enabled the traylaunch..

krale
30th May 2006, 01:05 AM
Is that 1800 mAh battery with extended thickness? if not it might be worth it.

I dont use phm tray launcher. But wifi and display are on quite frequently.

kta
30th May 2006, 08:35 AM
just curious,

do u have phm traylaunch enabled ?


mine sux the juice out of my prophet whenever I enabled the traylaunch..

I do have PHM TrayLaunch installed but did not notice faster battery drain. Is this something you just experienced or did anyone else comment about this problem?

Looking Glass
30th May 2006, 11:24 AM
Battery is way shorter in the Prophet than in any other device i've had before. Same usage of course.
I could live with this limit, but can not stand with some other wm5 imposse on us, such as max size on contact notes field, or the inability to sync via BT.
Am I the only one missing my trusted JAM?
:cry:

krale
30th May 2006, 11:45 AM
I am not sure its shorter than in other devices of similar features, but I do know for me its not enough. I think the Jam would actually be way shorter with Xscale over omap processor. So no, i would not say you've made the wrong choice.

Not sure what you mean about no synching over BT? It should work fine!

BTW, anyone know about this 1800mAh battery on ebay that apparently does not increase thickness?

sibere
30th May 2006, 07:38 PM
try this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9720781998

Looking Glass
30th May 2006, 07:45 PM
I am not sure its shorter than in other devices of similar features, but I do know for me its not enough. I think the Jam would actually be way shorter with Xscale over omap processor. So no, i would not say you've made the wrong choice.

Not sure what you mean about no synching over BT? It should work fine!

BTW, anyone know about this 1800mAh battery on ebay that apparently does not increase thickness?

Thanks for your comment.
IMHO battery life IS shorter, as a matter of fact. I know about the OMAP, but it takes two of them, so.....
BT syncing simply does not work. Maybe it's a matter of XP-WM5 combination, but fact is that my prophet "does not find a PC with the active Sync service" Any help on that?

I've been able to get TomTom 5 to work, pair with several headsets and handsfree devices, but no way around the Active Sync issue, no matter what the COM ports or tricks I've tried. I even changed BT drivers from Widcomm to MS in my notebook, same result.

I haven't read about the large capacity battery, but if this is going to be "oversized" or make it heavier, I'd rather would take an extra USB cable around the office or my notebook.

Looking Glass
30th May 2006, 07:50 PM
I am not sure its shorter than in other devices of similar features, but I do know for me its not enough. I think the Jam would actually be way shorter with Xscale over omap processor. So no, i would not say you've made the wrong choice.

Not sure what you mean about no synching over BT? It should work fine!

BTW, anyone know about this 1800mAh battery on ebay that apparently does not increase thickness?

Thanks for your comment.
IMHO battery life IS shorter, as a matter of fact. I know about the OMAP, but it takes two of them, so.....
BT syncing simply does not work. Maybe it's a matter of XP-WM5 combination, but fact is that my prophet "does not find a PC with the active Sync service" Any help on that?

I've been able to get TomTom 5 to work, pair with several headsets and handsfree devices, but no way around the Active Sync issue, no matter what the COM ports or tricks I've tried. I even changed BT drivers from Widcomm to MS in my notebook, same result.

I haven't read about the large capacity battery, but if this is going to be "oversized" or make it heavier, I rather would take an extra USB cable around the office or my notebook.

krale
28th June 2006, 12:22 AM
Well just to let the curious know, I received the 1800 mah battery, the one also priced on ebay, with NO thickness increase, and I cannot believe it...

It just keeps going and going and going. I did the same tests as above, and could not get it to run out.

Wifi on (all else off) lasted for about five hours and was still arround 68%

Screen on all else off lasted for about 6 hours from an 85% charge and it was still on 39%...


I mean I know the math 1800 is 50% more than 1200, but I seem to be getting A LOT more than 50%. Any explanations?

MadKer
28th June 2006, 12:29 AM
Sync via Bluetooth is perfectly working for me.
You have to create a BlueTooth Com Port from your PC. Just follow instructions in ActiveSync Help File. :)

I can listen to mp3 for more than 4hours with screen off... and with a BlueTooth Headset... Maybe it's draining less power coz it just sends the signal and doesn't have to use external speakers...

hum... the 1800mh battery seems great... is it really good quality ?

krale
28th June 2006, 12:11 PM
I will keep you posted as I keep testing it in the next few days, but so far I'm impressed.

The maker is the same as the original battery (DynaPack) so quality is the same.

rjtd
8th March 2007, 05:59 PM
The battery is shorter because the phone is always registering on the GSM network.
It has some kind of bug in it.
You can check this by going to Settings > Phone > Network and check that the current network is sometimes flashing "home service" instead of the name of the operator.

CookieKid
8th March 2007, 06:29 PM
The battery is shorter because the phone is always registering on the GSM network.
It has some kind of bug in it.
You can check this by going to Settings > Phone > Network and check that the current network is sometimes flashing "home service" instead of the name of the operator.

As in manual not automatic.

rjtd
8th March 2007, 08:06 PM
As in manual not automatic.

Manual or automatic, it gives the same "shit".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKO1xaY1z7Q

doublej
9th March 2007, 06:12 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250092516258&fromMakeTrack=true#ebayphotohosting

anyone seen 2500mah ? I'm trying to find out if it bigger.

nvgear
24th March 2007, 06:59 AM
2500mah? seems kinda fake to me if it is the same size and thickness as a 1200mah or 1800mah battery.

The 1800mah extended battery is possible because they removed the hard plastic cover on top of the battery so they can fit a slight bigger capacity battery.

majorjam
27th March 2007, 01:24 AM
these 1800mah batteries (says not dynopack on ad, just chinese copy!) are they much heavier, i have just ordered one, bit concerned they may actually be lithium ion (not lithium polymer)

majorjam
1st April 2007, 11:24 PM
ok tested '1800mah' battery, firstly its a copy, second it weighs the same as original '1200mah' battery, third battery temp probe reads 26.5 c no matter what temperature the phone is, also not very well made as does not clip in as good as original, label which is covers the cell was not stuck on square!
seems to last about as long as original '1200'mah, will see how it works next week !
(krale did you change anything else at the same time as 1800mah battery?)

majorjam
6th April 2007, 01:29 PM
anyone else got the '1800mah' battery ?

robgoossens
8th April 2007, 09:24 PM
anyone else got the '1800mah' battery ?

I use the 2500mA variant, and i'm very satisfied with it, the "on" time is more than 2 x longer as the 1200mA (about 10 hours "on time")

NetrunnerAT
9th April 2007, 02:49 AM
uhm ... nice to read ... i buy a 2500mAh version to test. i think ... its possible it works without problem. most time the charge havent the right charging program and this copy batterie die faster.

majorjam
9th April 2007, 07:13 PM
robgoosens is the 2500mah a bigger battery physically so as to need a different battery cover ?

robgoossens
10th April 2007, 08:43 PM
robgoosens is the 2500mah a bigger battery physically so as to need a different battery cover ?

the battery cover is included with the battery, the s200 is about 6 mm thicker with the 2500 mA battery and a bit heavier.

http://cgi.ebay.nl/High-Capacity-Power-Battery-2500-mAh-Qtek-s200-200_W0QQitemZ160050466388QQcategoryZ75446QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

With the pocketinternet totaal flatfee gprs option of T-mobile I use the s200 to listen to webradio (32kbs) about the whole day now.

NetrunnerAT
10th April 2007, 10:19 PM
argl ... ok ... i order the 1800mAh too ... i doesnt need a fat S200!