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flux3000
30-05-2006, 07:06 PM
Hi

I have a pda2K i-mate (HTC Blue Angel) but today it looks like the backlight died or its gone into some strange stealth mode

This problem was not caused by ROM upgrade etc, but possibly caused by slight shock (see below).

SYMPTOMS

Currently the screen is blank - no back light and no writing
I try power button - short press, long hold - still not working.

After soft reset

red (end call) and green (answer call) button lights come on
then 2 high pitch beeps 'de-neer'
then 2 lights off
press red key, both lights on
keypad lights works

after few secs idle lights off
press red, then normal pitch beep


After hard reset -
same as for soft

does that sound normal after soft/ hard reset?
but there is no picture at all - couldnt see splash screen or any flicker etc.

Do you think it's hardware or software fault?
or is this maintenance mode or something?
Read somewhere red light on constantly means defective battery, but is that the charge light? or end call light?

Can i change brightness somewhere? (without needing to see screen).
I've taken the battery out a few times, stick it back in after 10 or so mins, doesn't work.
will leave out over night if not sorted by then.


CAUSE:
Lying in bed, getting phone from jacket which was on chair
phone in pocket of jacket, picked up jacket, phone swung down and hit side of bed (not too hard) - pretty flush (but padded) i guess so maybe combination of buttons pressed simultaneously

active sync 4.1 works (managed to do full backup- won't use i know)
after hard resets its now on guest partnership

couldn't get mtty to work with it (after disabling activesync) - just said CLIENT CLIENT after pressing USB mode (didn't see WCE..USB...option)
(probably cuz not in bootloader mode - record button + power/standby + reset?)
Update: Got to type some commands in but dont think PDA was properly connected (no chargin light), or didnt see change in results.

downloaded latest ROM updates from club imate when try to run says wrong country id. Tried Arabic version too, also wrong country id.
Update: Tried standard partnership active sync connected then Rom update - PDA2k_WWE_14000_176_11200

Error 120: COUNTRY ID ERROR

DEVICE INFO
This unit is replacement from UK insurance company so not sure where they got it from. Guess what - insurance just ran out (they cancelled as claimed twice already!)
It's in pretty good newish condition - opened box March 2006, i think it had WMedia player 10 so guess is quite up to date, but can't get device data as can't execute file on ppc without seeing screen (unless other way).

I had chat session with club imate support
they asked for my IMEI, serial number and contact details. i think they told me to send to service centre or something but got a phone call at end, and the session timed out, great (one of those days!)

Any idea if it would be under warranty? Original purchase over 1 year, but this is a new unit from March 2006

How long do repairs take with imate - Ashford Kent centre?

Today has been a nightmare, i'm one of those people who doesn't eat / sleep / work properly until PC or PPC is fixed (sure most ppl here are too :P) . I rely on both PC's for my e-commerce business. Normaly i find answers in forums, but today i've been going in circles...

spent over 7 hours searching so far, trial and error etc and can't find the exact solution, it's been fun but this permanent frown and dodgy gut is not very pleasant now - (sorry for moaning and rambling )

Thanks in advance for any tips or pointers

PS. I'm new here, great forum!
Might check out WM5 upgrade if get above working :S

mk1_nutter
02-06-2006, 08:55 PM
the connectors come loose inside.

mk1_nutter
02-06-2006, 08:55 PM
the connectors come loose inside.

yodafreak
07-06-2006, 02:23 AM
It takes quite a bit of force to pull the screen ribbon connector off of the main board... you must have whacked the phone pretty good for this to happen. I guess if the backlight is not comming on anymore, then it could have happened. If this happened, you are in luck. Otherwise, it is something else.

Check out my new pics on dissasembly of your device at

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DIS_BA_PICS

I still have to finish the post there... but it should help you I think.[/url]

fluffcat1
07-06-2006, 02:46 AM
Check out my new pics on dissasembly of your device at

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DIS_BA_PICS

I still have to finish the post there... but it should help you I think.[/url]

Nice pics, don't mean to sound pedantic but that's a CDMA NM8 harrier in your guide not a GSM NM8 blueangel. Althought the overall shape is the same the sim card holder ( blanked off in the harrier ) is in a different place and the blueangel does not have a flash unit above the camera. The backup battery is socketed directly to the board and not on a fly lead also. But hey, all the screws are in the same places!

Richard

yodafreak
07-06-2006, 08:25 AM
Nice pics, don't mean to sound pedantic but that's a CDMA NM8 harrier

DOH! You're right. I guess I found something that looked similar to the Audiovox PPC6600/VX6600 Harrier(CDMA) Blueangel(GSM) or whatever the heck they are calling this thing!

I figure the BA crowd can still use the info because there are many similarities (however, I can't get back into the page to edit, says 'page not found', using IE6)

flux3000
27-07-2006, 07:02 PM
Update:

Thanks guys for the pics much appreciated,
might still have to open it, but i thought i'd try the warranty route first.

So after getting an invoice for the my third replacement insurance unit (now faulty) i sent the PDA2K to the imate repair centre.

Few days later got a quote of £410.35 to repair the mainboard. (9 pounds to get it sent back with no repair)

Out of Warranty Reason

illegal Unlock


I called the repair centre and they said the warranty was rendered invalid because 3rd party software was installed that turned the IMEI numbers to zeros on the mainboard.

Now what does that mean?

a) Insurance company phone shop gave me a dodgy phone? :roll:
b) i installed some software that somehow did that (not that i'm aware of) :oops:
c) the repair centre just came up with a crap reason and high bill to stitch me up :twisted:

I've sent a fax to insurance company and email to imate support and will see what happens.

Anyone had a similar reason for out of warranty?

What does it mean when IMEI on mainboard all zeros?

Thanks again for help

Cheers

(PS Should this be a new thread now?)

fluffcat1
27-07-2006, 08:54 PM
One thing to throw back at them - why on earth would an i-mate device be locked in the first place for you to unlock it?

All zeros usually means the security area is corrupted. Doubt you need a new board BTW, just a flash with jtag.

Do a search for problems with SBE's repairs...

Richard

flux3000
31-07-2006, 10:54 PM
Thanks Richard will do a search,
heres what club imate had to say:


Dear Customer,

Thank you for your email and apologies for the delay caused. Regarding your query, please note that the unit was received in the service center with a null internal IMEI number which in turn void the warranty. Please note that the service center checks the device for any fault using professional tools and follow policies of the service center and their decision is final as for the warranty issue.

Regards

Technical Support - i-mate™


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