Universal successor

[dherrero]

Hi. I am thinking about replace my old Universal for a nice successor. Here in Spain HSDPA is active so i was thinking about HTC Hermes. But i love my VGA Screen. What can i do? any suggestions?? Thaaaanks

[kdskamal]

Till now, there are not even rumors in the air for the next laptop-like design. So, all we can do is request HTC to make similar device :)

[cktlcmd]

How about MAGIC: http://www.advancetc.com/

[adamdon89]

How about MAGIC: http://www.advancetc.com/
Yeah I've seen them, I was going to get one till I heard... NO VGA! Now why would I want two QVGA screens? I think the Universal is going to be the top dog for quite some time.

[hdubli]

Cross yr fingers....there is one planned..... :lol:

[srmz]

Hdubli thanks but I always thought that HTC will tie up the successor for the Universal with the next version of Windows Mobile.

Regards

[dherrero]

Hi hdubli,
Could you say something more?

[cktlcmd]

I love clamshell devices :D , thus the reason why I fell in love with the Universal. I do hope there is a successor for the Universal with better specs, especially the camera. We need higher resolution and they need to reposition the camera at the back of the screen, instead of the bottom of the keyboard. The one in front of the screen is fine, but I prefer to take pictures in clamshell mode than with the screen rotated in PDA mode.

[dherrero]

For me VGA is a must. I like HSDPA, but i prefer UMTS with VGA than HSDPA with QVGA. I was going to buy it but i know that i will miss the VGA real screen so i will wait. I will buy a pcmcia card HSDPA enabled for my laptop......

[jarednoah]

VGA is a must for me too. The screen can be smaller but I need my VGA. With bigger memory and an external Caller ID screen. Then I am in heaven!

[Lordsmiff]

A decent camera wouldn't go amiss too ;-)

[Nasdaq]

For me the next version must have an external screen so I can see who is calling withough having to open it, and a small numeric pad so I can make calls. That's the biggest peeve I have with this device.
Faster processor would be great too, the phone does get a bit laggy sometimes, also can't always answer a call, etc. It was better after a reflash but after a while the phone starts to drag.

Cheers
Nasdaq

[Biffert]

How about a graphics processor, for video playback and such. I have some hickups every now and then when i playback video.

[srmz]

I think the current Universal has it all except:

1: External screen to display caller ID
2: The call accept and reject buttons on the side should light up when a call comes through
3: A small numeric keypad on the outside
4: But above all 128 MB of Program memory

Hope HTC is listening to us

Regards

[Lordsmiff]

Don't forget the camera ;-)

And if HTC are listening, can you make me a special one without the numeric pad on the outside?

[ashby]

I would love a full keyboard (alt / ctrl) keys

[dherrero]

Dont forget HSDPA. In many countries it works right now with 1.8Mbps and in Spain it will reach 14.4 Mbps in december ¡¡ (Like in many other countries). It makes real the TV Online...so i think HSDPA is a must.
Some extra buttons and a powerfull graphics chip and HTC Universal will become a PSP connected to the world with a VERY big broadband.
Of course wifi G.
External screen.
FM and DVB-T receivers.....
And finally...of course.....SIRF III GPS with TMC (real time traffic).

zzzzzzZZZZzzzzz...maybe I am dreaming.........zzzZZZZzzzzz

[GDawes]

From Sanyo prototypes a couple of years back.

Phone unit providing comms. Can be left on desk in bag, shirt pocket, belt clip. USB 2 and wireless USB connector. WIFI and bluetooth. 2 mini SDIO sockets. integrated AGPS. TV out. A2DP....

Screen - Interchangable choice of screens from VGA to QVGA. Talks wirelessly to base very thin.

Voice comm - via screen or headset.

Cameras interchangable and optional.

http://www.slashphone.com/111/4732.html cant find original link. But it was interchangavle items talking wireless to the receiever. mix n match what u need and it slotted together for storage, regular use.

[6680abhi]

Hopefully:

1. 3mp camera+ w/ VGA video recording
2. Wifi 802.11g (or even 802.11n!)
3. Small external screen for caller ID/signal status
4. 128mb (or more) RAM
5. Internal storage of 4gb+
6. Support for standard SD - I hate that we all have to buy new memory cards all the time! I dont think anyone is bothered about a memory card weighing 1g less - as minisd/microsd offer smaller capacities, higehr prices and the need for everyone to buy new cards!
7. GPS
8. Larger supplied battery - at least 2500mah.

And of course keep the VGA screen, but with perhaps 262k colours?

[adi54]

I support 6680abhi specs :lol:

[denmes]

Linux (optionally?) instead of Win
Small screen outside + hardware numpad outside
4,5" internal screen 800x480 - it's possible, just take a ruler
complete remapable keyboard with Ctrl and Alt instead of silly WIN buttons
HSDPA and EGPRS

Would be nice if the device would be not so thick, but 2-3cm longer instead (with correspondingly large screen and keybords).

(I am still dreaming about perfect Psion Revo)

[hdubli]

Well I can only say that no WM 2006...but it will be more compact keeping VGA resolution and of course HSDPA..cannot say more planned 1st/2nd qtr 2007

[dherrero]

bufffff, one year waiting..??

[6680abhi]

Well I can only say that no WM 2006...but it will be more compact keeping VGA resolution and of course HSDPA..cannot say more planned 1st/2nd qtr 2007

Thanks for the info. Will the more compact design mean a smaller screen (hopefully it wont!)?

Thanks

[wkeller]

i dont use voice phone, only data, therefore please give us
- more screen for webbrowsing (4.5 inch: yes!)
- more memory, more battery, more usb (host)

[jarednoah]

Well I can only say that no WM 2006...but it will be more compact keeping VGA resolution and of course HSDPA..cannot say more planned 1st/2nd qtr 2007

So most probably, this thing will be in the stores by 3rd or 4th quarter of 2007. That is a very looong wait in techno years? On the flipside, the current universal will be the "king" for a longer while....

[GaZ]

Keep the screen size and resolution, but cut down on the blank space either side (or on one side at least. we need the d-pad after all).

Screen on the outside is a must. Could be LCD for all I care, as long as it displays caller name/number, and when playing MP3s should tell you what track is playing.

Also, I don't care about an external keypad for calling, but I really want some Media Player controls on the outside (even if just next track/previous track)

Better quality speakers would be god too. I can still be out-blasted by my girlfriends SE W550i :x

[dima_the_chief]

I think the current Universal has it all except:

1: External screen to display caller ID
2: The call accept and reject buttons on the side should light up when a call comes through
3: A small numeric keypad on the outside
4: But above all 128 MB of Program memory

Hope HTC is listening to us

Regards

Hello!
Yes, the device of this kind MUST have a small outer screen just for the phone, and MUST have the numeric keyboard, as well as a joystick and WIN keys.
You can see on the MAGIC prototype - there is no numeric keys on the outer side, and number dial is still will be a pain here.
WHY NOT MAKE THE OUTER SCREEN SMALLER AND PUT NUMERIC KEYS?
Also, you can see, the device is very big, IMHO they could put numeric keys on the outer side while keeping this screen.

Defenitelly, there is A GAP between users and developers.
We understand that that there is the really big ammount of usability feedback, thanks to this forum too!
And, there is an evergrowing demand for the keyboard \ VGA devices on the market today!

Why not developers just take in to account already collected on this forum????

What do you think, people?

[HeartOfDarkness]

I was gonna say USB Host too, hopefully with enough power output to drive, even if only for a little while, a 1.8 / 2.5 " USB disk drive. The external display, OLED-style, is not only a plus, it should have been in the original design. :-)

Alas, being in the "secret of the gods" for a few phone brands (well, their French branches at least), I know that VGA devices are NOT considered a priority, far from it: QVGA or squarish (crappy) 320x320 screens seem more like the usual flavor for furture smart-phones. Of course, lack of RealVGA support in WM doesn't help.... :-(

Also, some big/huge PDA manufacturers / distributors have expressed their doubts about the PDA-phone branch of the market... :-S

[cmonex]

I was gonna say USB Host too, hopefully with enough power output to drive, even if only for a little while, a 1.8 / 2.5 " USB disk drive. The external display, OLED-style, is not only a plus, it should have been in the original design. :-)

Alas, being in the "secret of the gods" for a few phone brands (well, their French branches at least), I know that VGA devices are NOT considered a priority, far from it: QVGA or squarish (crappy) 320x320 screens seem more like the usual flavor for furture smart-phones. Of course, lack of RealVGA support in WM doesn't help.... :-(

Also, some big/huge PDA manufacturers / distributors have expressed their doubts about the PDA-phone branch of the market... :-S

what doubts... for example? :o

i agree VGA is still not popular from the standpoint of the manufacturers & microsoft... :( grrr.
a little note, the square screen is not 320x320, worse: 240x240. :roll:

[HeartOfDarkness]

240x240 is the current crappy (ahem, sorry for those who are "blessed" with such a screen), but I did mean the *future* square screens: they'll be 320x320, not 480x480 nor 640x640 (still some info from my "godly" sources ;-) ), at least for a while.

A "for instance": at Dell's, the responsible for the European Axim market said a few month ago, when asked about the Axim series evolutions, that there was no reason for Dell to go into the pda-phone business (and therefore no plans to) simply becase this market was far from mature and didn't provide enough revenue. I'll try and find a link if you want.

Oh, and the reason why I might not be completly full of cr*p (notice the "might" ;-) ) about my "godly sources" is because I used to administer a portable technologies-oriented webzine (www.digi-topia.net), so I had (and still have) a few "insider tips", sometimes.

[Taz69]

I'm hoping the replacement for the Universal will be an evolution of the current design rather than something totally new.

Hopefully it will keep a decent sized VGA screen and clamshell design. After all my previous XDA2I was considerably smaller than my Exec but when you add a case to protect the exposed screen it ended up being much bulkier.

HTC please RETAIN THE SWIVEL CLAMSHELL SCREEN and don't shrink it either :?

Other than that I hope to see

Graphics processor
Improved battery life
More memory & compatibility with the current mobile data standards.

Also here is an idea for a useful accessory....
Instead of an outer screen/numerical keypad how about a bluetooth keyfob type display with a small numerical keypad for dialing out. It would be cool if it could sync with your outlook contacts to allow you to dial without opening your device & AVRCP
(I belive similar features are available in some bluetooth headsets)

[HeartOfDarkness]

Nokia already sells something that looks like what you're refering to. I'd rather see embedded improvements rather than external, somewhat "optionnal" stuff, even if they do make them to.

Other than that, totally agree with you: form-factor, in particular, is excellent IMHO, although maybe some improvements on solidity / rigidity for the hinge wouldn't hurt.

[cmonex]

Nokia already sells something that looks like what you're refering to. I'd rather see embedded improvements rather than external, somewhat "optionnal" stuff, even if they do make them to.


you mean the nokia 9500 / 9300 / 9300i? sadly they run the lame symbian OS.

[dima_the_chief]

Nokia already sells something that looks like what you're refering to. I'd rather see embedded improvements rather than external, somewhat "optionnal" stuff, even if they do make them to.


you mean the nokia 9500 / 9300 / 9300i? sadly they run the lame symbian OS.

Yes, Nokia 9*00* models have great usability (IMHO), I mean the case itself. I dont mean the symbian OS and narrow screen.
The more I use Universal, the more I feel the leak of these small screen and num pad on top.
Another good IMHO thing from that Nokia: the phone is "separated" from the OS, so, when the Windows part is hang or resetting, you will not lose a call! :)
From the OS side you should see the "modem" which you can make calls with, using the outlook's contacts.

[HeartOfDarkness]

Nokia already sells something that looks like what you're refering to. I'd rather see embedded improvements rather than external, somewhat "optionnal" stuff, even if they do make them to.


you mean the nokia 9500 / 9300 / 9300i? sadly they run the lame symbian OS.

No, I meant that: Nokia HS-13W: http://www.kabiloo.fr/__gsm_5713_kit_oreillette_nokia_hs%2013w_pour_eric sson_k310i.html

That's what I understand Taz meant when he / she said:


Instead of an outer screen/numerical keypad how about a bluetooth keyfob type display

[Taz69]

That is along the idea though probably nothing as fancy.

If it was just a display and allowed me to use a Bluetooth stereo headset to make/receive calls I would be in heaven.

Even something as simple as the Sony Ericsson Bluetooth Headset HBH-200 would do the job but I expect I could not have that and a pair of stereo headphones such as the Motorola HT820's both connected to the Exec, just using the HBH-200 to display who was calling :?

[HeartOfDarkness]

Also, some big/huge PDA manufacturers / distributors have expressed their doubts about the PDA-phone branch of the market... :-S

what doubts... for example? :o


A "for instance": at Dell's, the responsible for the European Axim market said a few month ago, when asked about the Axim series evolutions, that there was no reason for Dell to go into the pda-phone business (and therefore no plans to) simply becase this market was far from mature and didn't provide enough revenue. I'll try and find a link if you want.


Couldn't find the actual interview, but recent news support what I said earlier, and go even further: not only does Dell think the smart/PDA-phone market non-mature, they may be pulling out of the handheld market altogether:

http://www.digitimes.com/NewsShow/NewsSearch.asp?DocID=00000000000000000000000000005 918&query=DELL+PDA

"
Dell halted R&D development of PDA products since the middle of 2005, when Dell's Taiwan Design Center (TDC) completed development of the PC vendor's last Axim-series device, which was manufactured by High Tech Computer (HTC), according to market sources.
"

Ah well, it's a shame really, considering how good the last Axims were... Only thing they lacked, really, was a good phone function... :-)

[Junior Jackson]

This is what I'd like to replace my XDA Exec:

At least 400MHz Intel CPU
64mb RAM
128mb ROM
Quad band
802.11b & g - wifi certified
Bluetooth v2
Integrated SIRFstar III GPS
USB v1.1 slave AND USB v1.1 host
2mp autofocus camera (+ vga for video dialing)
Qwerty keyboard
Integrated VoiP via wifi and / or UMTS
Docking / charging station included
AKU2 included (push email etc)
SDIO / MMC supporting new SDHC (or SDA v2 - up to 32Gb...)

That's just about everything.

And it's due for delivery first week in October from clove.co.uk

The Fujitsu Siemens Loox T830. Hopefully ending a year of pain with my Exec which is at this moment sat on my kitchen worktop with it's second cracked screen.

The downside?
240 x 240 2.4inch screen. I can live without VGA for improved reliability and more robust mechanical design.

Chris.

http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=90E0C677-07AA-4F15-A5F0-287FC47190A3&category=GROUP4

[geovass]

Rumors... The new Universal has codename HTC Omni

Lets wait and see...

[Junior Jackson]

You can't buy rumours.

If Fujitsu took the T830 and put it in a mechanically stronger clamshell with the Universal's screen what other features would you need or want?

Chris.

[m@rco]

Try the Imate K-Jar

[techtalkonline]

Try the Imate K-Jar

The K-JAR is equipped with a large 2.8" QVGA resolution display.

Bah, why not true VGA?

[Menneisyys]

You can't buy rumours.

If Fujitsu took the T830 and put it in a mechanically stronger clamshell with the Universal's screen what other features would you need or want?

Chris.

Well, you will need to wait a bit more if you really want the real successor of the Universal ;)

Otherwise, have a look at the new VGA Gigabyte device - it's REALLY cool!

[olliesshop]

Anyone hear any more about the next Universal? It looks like the last real leak was in September. It appears it will be out sometime in the first half of 2007 with hopefully significant improvements. I love my Universal (Jasjar), but I really could use more RAM and a faster processor.

[Akula_dude]

a few weeks ago I had that urge to design the Universal II. I came up with something that had a 4" WVGA screen (800x480), 624mhz cpu, an 8gb hard disk, and 128mb of ram. I drew some concept drawings as well... i'l scan them if anyone wants to see them

[dreamtheater39]

a few weeks ago I had that urge to design the Universal II. I came up with something that had a 4" WVGA screen (800x480), 624mhz cpu, an 8gb hard disk, and 128mb of ram. I drew some concept drawings as well... i'l scan them if anyone wants to see them


yea, go ahead post them! :D

[samy.3660]

Greetings,
Post more info about the oncoming hightech pda's

[olliesshop]

Based on this other string, it looks like it's being referred to as Athena? ... http://www.xda-developers.com/modules.php?name=News&file=showarticle&threadid=286884

Update: After re-reading ... http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/articles/htc-athena-en.shtml it says ... "It would be a mistake to think of HTC Athena as a successor to a tablet communicator HTC Universal, which will be inherited by another device in future. As for the Athena, as a matter of fact, it comes from a totally different type." So it looks like there's still hope, since the Athena doesn't seem that great to me.

[Akula_dude]

yea, go ahead post them! :D

k... but you have to remember that i drew this in class... so its not the best...

Excuses for my lack of creativity aside, here be the thing:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32613&stc=1&d=1167325800

k, breif description of my disasterpeice:
theres a rollerball (P3300-esque) where the Uni's dpad was. we now have call send, end, softkeys and app buttons. Oh, and the videocamera at the top, and a fingerprint reader
Cant see from the pic, but on the outside theres a 256x96 screen which shows incoming calls, or current playing music. there are two softkeys beside the screen which can be used for accept/decline incoming calls, or play/next track, depending on whether a call is incoming

The Specs:
624mHz CPU (cos everyone wants it. and a utility to scale down to 520 and 416Mhz if your really that concerned about battery)
128mb RAM
8GB 1" hard disk, with ~7.5GB free
3.5G HSPDA radio
802.11G WiFi
Bluetooth v2.0 with anything but Microsoft's software
USB host (a female port on the device, but must be on charger to use)
4" VGA screen (i took out wvga, was way too cramped in on the pda)
Nvidia GoForce GPU

and of course, never going to happen... but hey, isnt illegal to dream...

Oh, and sorry for the crap image. MDA Pro's camera isnt the best in the world... my scanner broke :D

[nuclear]

k... but you have to remember that i drew this in class... so its not the best...

Excuses for my lack of creativity aside, here be the thing:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32613&stc=1&d=1167325800

k, breif description of my disasterpeice:
theres a rollerball (P3300-esque) where the Uni's dpad was. we now have call send, end, softkeys and app buttons. Oh, and the videocamera at the top, and a fingerprint reader
Cant see from the pic, but on the outside theres a 256x96 screen which shows incoming calls, or current playing music. there are two softkeys beside the screen which can be used for accept/decline incoming calls, or play/next track, depending on whether a call is incoming

The Specs:
624mHz CPU (cos everyone wants it. and a utility to scale down to 520 and 416Mhz if your really that concerned about battery)
128mb RAM
8GB 1" hard disk, with ~7.5GB free
3.5G HSPDA radio
802.11G WiFi
Bluetooth v2.0 with anything but Microsoft's software
USB host (a female port on the device, but must be on charger to use)
4" VGA screen (i took out wvga, was way too cramped in on the pda)
Nvidia GoForce GPU

and of course, never going to happen... but hey, isnt illegal to dream...

Oh, and sorry for the crap image. MDA Pro's camera isnt the best in the world... my scanner broke :D
Ohohohoho ... thanks for that blueprint. Good job! Give me some more. Maybe me and you can collaborate into making the Anti-HTC Universal? Your design is really awesome. If we can meet and start the project I would be really happy.
With my skill in soldering and making a new phone. lol but it all sums up to the ROM. If someone is willing to make a ROM for that device it will be a big team project to take down HTC once and for all!

[AlanJC]

Can I have some of whatever nuclear is on please?

[nuclear]

Can I have some of whatever nuclear is on please?
See Alan... I was planning on upgrading the universal by soldering RAM / Flash ROM w/e to it. But now that Akula makes a pocket pc body I am thinking of using that picture as a blueprint into making a new phone. A phone that will outsmart the Universal. So what i am getting at is we are planning on making a totally new device!! Called the Anti-Universal. I dont know if that is fine with Akula, the name of the device that is... But i am going to take that picture that Akula just posted and place a order to make a metallic ipod-like body just like the one Akula drew. Akula draw more pic's and make them 3D in AutoCad or 3ds max. I can use them to make my new device. Also you cant copyright them because they are already public ;)

Seriously we got to meet. Maybe i can make your pictures 3d in 3dsmax.

[Akula_dude]

you have 3DS-Max? omg... nice. i have the freebie G-Max...

yah, i'll draw some more blueprints if ya want... i draw them in class, save myself from boredom... if your serious about making a pda, well, good luck but i dont think it'll really happen.

So, any suggestions for the blueprint 2.0?

[nuclear]

you have 3DS-Max? omg... nice. i have the freebie G-Max...

yah, i'll draw some more blueprints if ya want... i draw them in class, save myself from boredom... if your serious about making a pda, well, good luck but i dont think it'll really happen.

So, any suggestions for the blueprint 2.0?
Yes please make it 3 dimensional. Also if possible colour it up. I would like the colours of the ipod white. or the ipod U2 black version. There should be two cameras just like the universal has. Please make the CPU to be in the screen part. The screen should be detachable from the keyboard. Just like that HTC Athena. Except ours looks more like the HTC Universal. You know how the HTC Universal has the CPU in the keyboard part and the screen cant be taken off, in this Anti-Universal we want the screen to come off and the CPU to be in the screen so you can just carry a slimmer phone. We want it to look more of a phone than a computer. Make a big camera at the back of the phone. the device should have round corners and not sharp. Your image earlier was perfect. Just make the screen detachable and make the device a bit more oval.
Ah you live in England... that means we can probably meet in summer vaccation. Well I would really love to have the blueprints. I prefer AutoCad or 3dsmax or maya. Either way I promise you results or atleast as you see I am very interested in your excellence in designing. You may one day well become an architect or designer.
Keep it up! good job!

[patrickl]

nuclear, seriously. You should seek help or something.

First you don't know how to solder SMD and now you are designing a phone?

[Yubastard]

yeah, it's nicely designed, tho' it seems a little bit too cramped.

I would be all for designing a new device, it's my dream, actually, and I'm trying to study that same thing, Electronic Engineering. I also studied Architechture for a few years, so, if I can be of any help let me know.

Here's engadget.com's post on O2's next successor of Universal:
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/11/21/o2-xda-flame-to-redefine-pocket-pc-high-end/

here are the specs of the device (the best part!!):
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=673

and here are more pictures!:
http://www.dinarsoft.com/gitex.html

I don't think it's made by HTC, but maybe that's a good thing, I don't know. Unfortunately, it doesn't have keyboard, or at least not built in...

the VGA screen is identical in size to that of the Universal, so it shouldn't be bigger in any way. nice comparison pics with an Axim x50v.

this is awesomeness in the flesh!! Enjoy. (via Engadget)

[nuclear]

XDA Flame is good from the outside and bad from the inside. I wouldnt consider it a successor of Universal. ;)

[Yubastard]

XDA Flame is good from the outside and bad from the inside. I wouldnt consider it a successor of Universal. ;)

hey, the specs alone make me salivate in sheer desire, but our Anti-Universal will better, I'm sure! I like the idea of a detachable screen, tho' that screen is gonna be thick as hell, maybe as thick as the XDA Flame.

Why is the XDA Flame "bad from the inside"?? care to elaborate? appart from obvious stuff like the keyboard?

[nuclear]

hey, the specs alone make me salivate in sheer desire, but our Anti-Universal will better, I'm sure! I like the idea of a detachable screen, tho' that screen is gonna be thick as hell, maybe as thick as the XDA Flame.

Why is the XDA Flame "bad from the inside"?? care to elaborate? appart from obvious stuff like the keyboard?
What i like about the XDA Flame.
1. No keyboard.
2. Big screen.
3. Sleek body.
4. ROM 2GB? <--HD capacity?
What i dont like about the XDA Flame.
1. RAM 128MB... lol too less.
2. Bulky.
3. Very expensive.
4. Same old Universal Processor.

What I was browsing through and i came across this device i really liked!

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=682

What i like about this device Fujitsu-Siemens RPDA N560C!
1. Best Bulverade Processor to be manufactured.
2. No keyboard.
3. Sleek design and light weight and absolute size!
4. Very nice quality anti-glare screen.
5. Built in GPS.
6. A well known manufacturer Fujitsu. I own a Tablet PC made by fujitsu that also costed me $5000 and i am loving it.

What i dont like about this one is!
1. Very less RAM and ROM.

I guess thats it.

[Yubastard]

What I was browsing through and i came across this device i really liked!

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=682



yeah, I like it, too. more RAM would be better, tho', but 128MB is super reasonable! :)

[niketkumar]

So wats the latest news guys ?

[nuclear]

yeah, I like it, too. more RAM would be better, tho', but 128MB is super reasonable! :)
Some guy in the other thread was saying that it doesnt have GSM.... then how do you use it? I need to use it with rogers at&t

[shivafool]

anybody know anything about the HTC Omni?
supposedly planned for next year and another possible successor to Universal according to a post on Pocket PC Thoughts.

[kelford]

Some guy in the other thread was saying that it doesnt have GSM.... then how do you use it? I need to use it with rogers at&t

You use it just as a Pocket PC. It's not a Pocket PC phone.

[xqizit]

Has anyone heard if there will be any sneak previews at CES this week in Las vegas?

[GekoCH]

OK here are the Specs of the new HTC Omni!

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/08/htc-omni-specifications-unearthed/

Enjoy!!!

Geko

[joey jojo]

http://www.dinarsoft.com/gitex/flame3l.jpg

now that looks like a more satisfying size for storage

woo hoo

[nuclear]

http://www.dinarsoft.com/gitex/flame3l.jpg

now that looks like a more satisfying size for storage

woo hoo
Yup indeed very satisfying. Is that XDA Flame available for purchase? I am thinking of selling my HTC Universal phone for the XDA Flame anyday. ^^