hermes aluminium case? [Archive]

DigitalSifu

08-08-2006, 05:05 PM

May I suggest that you don't buy a metal case for your Hermes. I am a long time Wizard owner (looking to buy a Hermes as soon as I can). I have had an aluminum case and always wondered what was killing my signal. If you do a search over in the Wizard forums you will see that those cases just kill your signal. Maybe the Hermes has some improvements, but I would be careful. Just thought I would save you from some frustration (and maybe some wasted money!) It's a shame, cause I love those cases as well.

ChaoticDruid

26-08-2006, 12:52 PM

Anyone found an aluminum case that would work yet? I have always hated leather cases never used an aluminum one, I just know I am gonna tear the screen up if I dont have something hard rotecting it while its in my pocket, basically I would be usin it in a manner like somebody would a sunglasses case, take it out when its in use, and put it back when its not..etc, and I'm not that important, if I miss a call due to bad signal, its no biggie.

raymondu999

26-08-2006, 03:11 PM

Indeed. Aluminium does a good job of absorbing radiation. Sadly GSM is affected by it as well.

bydandie

26-08-2006, 03:14 PM

Well I haven't seen that at all with the Vario I get the same signal wether I have the case or not

raymondu999

26-08-2006, 03:36 PM

Really? Vario was... a.... Wizard, was it?

bydandie

26-08-2006, 08:51 PM

Aye :)

McDoPDA

16-09-2006, 11:02 AM

You can find aluminium cases (silver or black) for the TyTN at www.pdair.com

netboy

18-09-2006, 07:22 PM

i just received my PDAir aluminium case, it makes the device looks thicker. but at least u wont have to worry about cracking the LCD screen!
my previous ipaq pda and verizon vx6600 got LCD screen cracked due to sitting on it. i dont like to wear it on the belt, i like to put the pdaPhone in the pocket

lukedoomer

19-09-2006, 04:00 PM

I just received my aluminium case too. Here is a little information and some pictures I can provide.
http://www.wretch.cc/blog/doomer&article_id=4597663

trentend

19-09-2006, 07:05 PM

I'd be very interested in any subjective assesments of the impact on signal strength, and battery life, as a result of using one of these cases.

I'd like one, but not if it significantly hampers the signal, or substantially drains the battery as a result of a need to run at higher transmission strength.

lukedoomer

19-09-2006, 08:16 PM

Until now ( exceed 12 hrs ), I didn't find any signal reduction. I have no problems calling out and accepting incoming calls while my hermes still wearing alumium case all the time.

FranchiseJuan

23-09-2006, 02:49 PM

I got mine PDAir case a couple of days ago. No reall problems really. nicely made, looks good (black one), and the belt clip is pretty good. Only one droped call, but I had one or two droped calls from home without the case, so I don't think it is the case. Overall I would recommend it.

If I get time over the weekend, I might post some hi rez photos of the black case with the Orange SPV 3100.

ChaoticDruid

26-09-2006, 02:38 AM

Ordered and received the black version from PDAir, I had ordered the invisible shield first, so my TyTN fit a bit too tight in the aluminum case cause of the shield..but it went in.
I am currently using this sucker so much that I really didn't like to have to flip the case open all the time to use it, I debated on removing the plastic window from the case, but just opted to throw it on the shelf within the first 15 minutes of opening the package.

I didt use it long enough to notice battery drain, but the signal strength was the same with or without the case, also the case hinges on the right hand side to allow it to remain in the case while using the keyboard..but it feels a bit weird, almost like its designed for a left handed person...hard to explain.

ktwildchild

26-09-2006, 05:44 PM

Well, I have had mine for about a week and I will say this,... THANK GOD! as I have dropped it since I've had the case and well,... IT WORKS!!!

I can get to all of the buttons AND even the antenna, it also ascut out for my lanyard that I use. Everything is accessable including the microSD card (why I don't know). It is a little difficult to get to some of the buttons with my big "sausage" fingers but it still serves the purpose that I need.

Unless I find a better case (which I haven't seen plans for) I sticking with this one.

PDAIR Great job!

ChaoticDruid

02-10-2006, 10:46 AM

I dropped my Tytn off the couch a few times after passin out while hangin out on IRC, the invisible shield worked very well...but I decided I would give the aluminum case another go..I removed the clear window and then thought the black case looked crappy around the silver phone, so I started to sand it down to polish it, I got all of the front cover sanded and part of the back, and went to see how it looked around the phone...I just held the phone and positioned the top cover over it, and then I noticed the screen flicker...I'm not sure if I missed this before I sanded it, because then I checked with different wallpapers and its not really noticeable with some and it only happens when the case is over it...kinda strange I thought, considering the phone has an aluminum bezel already around the screen from the factory, and I also did notice I would drop a bar on the signal if I wasn't in a strong area.

As many people making aftermarket stuff out of carbon fiber nowdays...I can't believe someone hasn't started making them for phone's/pda's

Its relatively cheap, and a lazy route of making them could be done by just vacuum forming one from an already made aluminum case.

joedoe

14-10-2006, 06:18 AM

What about Bluetooth? Does aluminium case shields it signal?

joedoe

20-10-2006, 04:37 AM

Got a black aluminium case from Boxwave. Looks and fits fine. Didn't notice any Bluetooth signal degradation so far.
BTW PDAir and Boxwave cases look identical - most likely both have the same OEM producer.

balld

07-12-2006, 09:58 PM

Had my case since day two with my Cingy 8525. No problems noted, glad I have extra protection as I'm always bumping into things walking. Tables, chairs, etc. Mine is the monaco aluminum case in black. Absolutely love it!

ZzFDKzZ

07-12-2006, 11:23 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Cingular-8525-Armor-Case-Metal/dp/B000J0T6Q0/sr=8-2/qid=1165533642/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/002-9456356-4411227?ie=UTF8&s=wireless
Just order 1 from there.

arcivanov

11-12-2006, 12:34 AM

http://www.amazon.com/Cingular-8525-Armor-Case-Metal/dp/B000J0T6Q0/sr=8-2/qid=1165533642/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/002-9456356-4411227?ie=UTF8&s=wireless
Just order 1 from there.

This is the same case an Armor Case from Box Wave. I find this case wonderful protection and look-and-feel-wise, but it LOWERS the reception A LOT, 2 - 3 bars with any radio firmware. If they would have made the upper part from plexi-glass or silver\black-colored plastic so the antenna is not shielded from all sides by the RF-reflective aluminum shell it would have been awesome. But, oh well...

KevinBaker

11-12-2006, 01:24 AM

I bought my case from eBay, it looks the same as the Amazon one. It cost me around ~AUD$35. Fantastic case - everything is accessable, perfectly usable, thin, does not bulk my pockets too much etc.

I work in an industrial environment, so this is perfect for me :D.

Have not noticed any signal loss, and my bedroom is a low signal area, so I'm quite happy!

arcivanov

11-12-2006, 03:51 AM

KevinBaker

11-12-2006, 02:35 PM

Yeah definately the exact same case!

joedoe

11-12-2006, 06:53 PM

Mine drops at least one bar too. Other then that it's a perfect case.

ZzFDKzZ

14-12-2006, 06:30 PM

I just received the boxware black case. Right away I notice my signal drop by 2 bars. But when I open the case I get back the 2 bars.

arcivanov

15-12-2006, 01:26 AM

I just received the boxware black case. Right away I notice my signal drop by 2 bars. But when I open the case I get back the 2 bars.

Exactly same here. I think I'm going to try to drill some holes in the upper part of the case to maybe decrease the amount of signal energy dissipating on the case itself. Ideally the manufacturer should think about making the upper part plastic :)

joedoe

15-12-2006, 05:14 AM

Exactly same here. I think I'm going to try to drill some holes in the upper part of the case to maybe decrease the amount of signal energy dissipating on the case itself. Ideally the manufacturer should think about making the upper part plastic :)

Actually the case already has enough openings on the top part. I don't think drilling extra holes will make any difference.

naveen

15-12-2006, 06:33 AM

mine works fine in the case. no signal loss.

trialdei

15-12-2006, 01:01 PM

wundis

15-12-2006, 05:09 PM

teride

15-12-2006, 05:12 PM

just got the pdair case and lookswise, it's great but i do concur that signal strength is affected. bluetooth works fine but i usually get 4 bars where i live and now i'm down to two. consequently, transfer speed fell from 800kps to about 500kpbs.

How do you like the PDair case? Which one do you have & do you find that the plastic over the keys interferes at all with the keyboard function?

trialdei

15-12-2006, 05:25 PM

now I wonder, does the signal loss due to the presence of the aluminium case affects people just in the USA (cause you use a different transmission technology (if I'm not mistaken)) or people in Europe as well (No idea about Australia :) ?
i live in japan where there are no gms/gprs networks so the results i'm seeing are strictly with reference to wcdma/umts...haven't tried the new case overseas yet

trialdei

15-12-2006, 05:26 PM

How do you like the PDair case? Which one do you have & do you find that the plastic over the keys interferes at all with the keyboard function?
perhaps you're talking about a different case. the one i have is:

http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000012&products_id=4721

and there's no plastic over the keys. you have to open the case to access the kb.

arcivanov

17-12-2006, 10:16 PM

Actually the case already has enough openings on the top part. I don't think drilling extra holes will make any difference.

There aren't nearly enough openings if you try calculating the wavelength and compare it with the sizes of the cuts. Almost 70% is still shielded, meaning that at least 70% of the signal is either reflected or dissipated as heat on the aluminum shell. In other words, the closer I can bring the upper part to hard mesh with holes the diameter of largest wave length used - the better.

drutort

03-10-2007, 02:46 AM

for people who might have the aluminum cases, maybe give those carbon fiber ones a chance? i ordered the rubber one and the carbon fiber one as well, pretty cheap on ebay. I would never want a metal case, unless it was a sheet metal case on plastic just a skin, in which case carbon fiber is better anyway?

im also all for slim vertical cases, cause i do not want to add any more bulk to the phone, my previous phones were on the bearable size, and the hermes is bigger with the wrong case having your hermes on the side you will notice it, it will bother you... thats what i noticed at work lol

so im going with a few combo's and also using a screen protector for times when it calls to have low profile and keep it in a pocket... vs at times were i want the phone protected depending in what environment im at... or if the clothing does not work well with a phone in your pocket heh

drutort

14-10-2007, 06:24 AM

so i got the rubber and the "carbon fiber" well i think the carbon fiber is a fake... i mean its just painted on... unless you can call it carbon fiber with just paint o_O it costs the same as any other plastic case cover :/ it does look nice... but i doubt that its carbon fiber... and it does not state no place that its design or look of carbon fiber...

does anyone disagree? those from ebay... and one of the vertical pouches that i got it has a stretch cover which i do not like... i like the magnetic ones for fast access

the rubber one is like rubber painted plastic case its not a silicon full or full rubber case which i dont like i want a full rubber/silicon case

Granted the rubber covered one will last and resist scratches a lot better

klobbersaurus

18-10-2007, 04:39 AM

just got an aluminium case for my 8525 and noticed my signal bars dropping too, went from full bars to 1 or 2bars

where is the internal antenna on these phones? just so i know which areas i should start making new holes to get better signal

drutort

19-10-2007, 03:55 AM

the phone one is on top of the phone, and on the sides are your wifi and BT ones, you can see these in the pics were they have the phone take apart

i doubt that making an area open for them will help, as they are omni im more then sure and not directional heh maybe a little bit...