Charging and audio (Y) cable in one? [Hermes]

[sh500]

Hi all,

I've not got my Hermes variant yet, but would like to ask if anyone plans on using this device in the car for example; with the need to charge AND have audio out going to the car speakers.

Since there is only one connector for both charging and audio, is there some sort of 'Y' cable that 'separates' the two connections?

Thanks.

[esackbauer]

Brodit has an adapter with just charging feature:
http://www.brodit.com/productinformation.jsp?anr=971690

I have just written an email to them if they could put an audio out cable as well. I will update if I get any information.

[sh500]

Brodit has an adapter with just charging feature:
http://www.brodit.com/productinformation.jsp?anr=971690

I have just written an email to them if they could put an audio out cable as well. I will update if I get any information.

Yes, I remember seeing that one...

I would have thought more people may have wanted such an adapter- but obviously not. This is something I would use in my car all the time.

[bryson]

Hi Guys,

Have you considered the 'parrot' car phone kit options? They come in a variety of options, basically each is a Bluetooth car kit, that bonds with your device,transfers the contacts, mutes your cars radio, and pumps telephone calls through the car speakers also, it is in every way a fully working car kit for the Xda range.

I am biased as I retail and install them, but every customer i do installs for, they absoultey love them, as they also bond with upto 5 devices so other phones can be used as well, ie a works phone,

http://www.parrot.biz/united_kingdom/products/index.php?id=advanced

Drop me a line if you need any help ok,

Thanks

Bryson

[kevino]

Hi Guys,
To view and buy all Xda Brodit cradles and proclips, visit my site www.dsldevelopments.com

You should really fix your site to work with Firefox. It gives the error
Windows Media Player Plug-in Dynamic Library
The plug-in performed an illegal operation. You are strongly advised to restart Firefox
with Firefox 1.5.0.6 with Noscript 1.1.4.1

Well I think it may be your fault because I've never seen the error before and it is reproduceable.

[sh500]

Hi Guys,

Have you considered the 'parrot' car phone kit options? They come in a variety of options, basically each is a Bluetooth car kit, that bonds with your device,transfers the contacts, mutes your cars radio, and pumps telephone calls through the car speakers also, it is in every way a fully working car kit for the Xda range.

I am biased as I retail and install them, but every customer i do installs for, they absoultey love them, as they also bond with upto 5 devices so other phones can be used as well, ie a works phone,

http://www.parrot.biz/united_kingdom/products/index.php?id=advanced

Drop me a line if you need any help ok,

Thanks

Bryson

Would these parrot kits route the [musical] audio from my device to the car speakers then? I dont really need a BT carkit since I always have my personal BT handsfree on. My main requirements are those as listed in my original post.

[bryson]

Thanks Ill pass on the notes to the web guy, i use firefox and IE and works fine, is it the How it Works video?

No, it wont route music through your car, not that I have found yet,

[wwaveydave]

You'd need it to support A2DP to play music too. As far as I know there's no headphone support only headset. At least it's only headset on mine.

[Manne]

To Bryson:

I have a CK 3000 that has worked fine with all of my phones. However, according to a different thread there seems unfortunately to be a problem with the Tytn and some (all?) of the Parrot kits.

[bryson]

Hi,

Ive yet to test parrot gear with a tytn / hermes etc - nhave you been over to the parrot forums to see if anyone has posted regarding this issue there?

Sorry i cant be of more help,

Bryson!

[wwaveydave]

My parrot works sweelty with my Tytn and my Strtrk. I have the CK3000 unit too.

[stephanoid]

I want a Y cable too!
Split into audio out, mic in, charge.
Preferably in a brodit carholder!
I'm sure someone can make this, now the phone is sold in Japan, lot's of japanese will want to use their own headsets, so I hope they will invent some nice cables :)

[se4me]

Im also looking for this same adaptor, so I can charge the device in the car while the adioo output can be used for satnav.

Anyone know of such an adaptor ? (Y cable)

[grayhaze]

I posted on the Wiki that a Y cable is soon to be available from Expansys. http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=140425.

[sh500]

I posted on the Wiki that a Y cable is soon to be available from Expansys. http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=140425.

Ah nice one, I knew this would be something people would want. But why HTC couldn't integrate this on the device in the first place still baffles me!

[lie_ui]

This is only my humble opinion.
When I first knew that the TyTn, followed by the next coming other HTC's PPCs (Trinity. Artemis), would not have the regular audio port anymore (Regardless the size, 2.5 mm or 3.5 mm), I was thinking they must be really stupid by taking that away. Since my first PPC, I have been always plug the audio/sound to my car stereo for MP3 and phone calls.

Then I tried to think about the logic, why would they take it away, they must have reasons, being such a high tech company. The most logical reason I can think of, they might want to design a good car kit /desktop cradle for it. Thus, by combining the audio port and the USB sync/charging port, they can create a cradle/car kit that would only have one connector to the PPC, instead of two connections/jacks: the USB and the audio pin. That might be a good idea, same idea like the earlier versions of the PPC, like Wallaby that had the serial connector that can be used for synching, charging, GPS, and audio input/output as well, all in the same connector.

But looking at the connector they made, the one posted above in the expansys, I'm kind of LOL really. 2 USB output, one for power, one for audio? Ha ha ha..

They /any third party, should have design a car cradle and a desktop cradle that not only have a regular USB for sync/power, but also just map out also the audio output to a regular 3.5 mm normal audio connection. And that cradle will be really useful and I would think many ppl will buy it. And for a plus side, just add a GPS module in the same car cradle unit, than its perfect solution.

Just my humble opinion...

[sh500]

Yes, I agree with the above post, what we now need is for someone to design both a desktop and car cradle, where it would have the 11pin, to which one would dock the device and the 5 & 6 pin on the underside.

[goestoeleven]

This adapter is helpful, but it would be more helpful if accepted the standard 2.5/3.5mm plugs and power. I mean, come on, who's going to be listening in their car with headphones?

[sh500]

This adapter is helpful, but it would be more helpful if accepted the standard 2.5/3.5mm plugs and power. I mean, come on, who's going to be listening in their car with headphones?

Yes good point. As it is, it would mean having to use this adapter to split the audio/charging and then use yet another adapter to convert the mini usb to 2.5/3.5 (if there is such as thing, seeing as the connection now would be the standard USB and not the 'square ended' one).

[wywywywy]

This adapter is helpful, but it would be more helpful if accepted the standard 2.5/3.5mm plugs and power. I mean, come on, who's going to be listening in their car with headphones?

Yes good point. As it is, it would mean having to use this adapter to split the audio/charging and then use yet another adapter to convert the mini usb to 2.5/3.5 (if there is such as thing, seeing as the connection now would be the standard USB and not the 'square ended' one).

That means we'll also need an USB A<->B adaptor.... Hmmmmmm.......

[wwaveydave]

The audio output ports on the 11pin adapter are on the bottom 6 connections. This means a mini usb to 3.5mm adapter would still be no good to you. You'd need another 11pin adapter to make another 11pin adapter to 3.5mm socket. The best way of doing it would be to modify the Y adapter itself and replace the 11 pin audio socket with a 3.5mm pcb socket. It's what I'll be doing when the bloody things finally ship.

[wacky.banana]

Chaps,

I bought the HTC recommended product off their site the other day (via Expansys). It arrived in the post within a couple of days; that's the good news.

The bad news is that only the charging side of the cable works. The audio side, set to accept a 3.5mm jack, is as dead as a dodo.

Have checked with 3 different pairs of headphones, no joy. The TyTn port works perfectly with the original 11 pin mini usb headphones so I know its not the port or the 3mm jack headphones I have been using.

Logic says duff cable; I'm awaiting Expansys to give me a returns number to send it back (6 working days, they say). However has anyone else experienced this problem and if so what is the solution please?

Thanks

WB

[deach01]

Theres a "Y" adapter driver at the HTC Europe Support site that has been reported to enable the audio output.

see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309737

[wacky.banana]

Deach01,

Thanks for this. Seems the guy on the other thread has had success with the driver.

When I bought mine neither Expansys nor HTC indicated that a driver was required. I note that Expansys website now refers to the driver and it is now also available on HTC's website.

I have had my refund now so that path is closed. Nevertheless thanks for the info. Hopefully it will help someone else out.

Cheers

WB