Hermes Engineering mode [Archive]

ghl10000

17-08-2006, 01:38 PM

Powerful utility for 2G/3G included in the windows folder called fieldtest
If you do not found it, I attached it. Enjoy
If you need help with the 3G param please ask

COOOOOL !!!!!
Thanks so much for posting it !!!!!

I can start it on the HTC TyTN and it really shows a lot of parameters.
(Not quite sure right now if the Nokia 6680 or now the Hermes shows more of them :)

Only...

Most of the params (except for the RSSI, i.e. the field level) show N/A.
That's why I assume that some Registry values have to be adjusted...

Could you pls confirm that you can see values for all (or at least) most of the values ?

Otherwise it's really phantastic that you are sharing this with us !!! Thanks again.

jaso2005

17-08-2006, 05:09 PM

what exactly does this do?

mantra

17-08-2006, 10:48 PM

hi do you have more details on how to get it working? I only get -99 in the signal box and it does not seem to be getting all readings from the radio stack. are the registry tweaks needed?

ghl10000

18-08-2006, 12:38 AM

Powerful utility for 2G/3G included in the windows folder called fieldtest
If you do not found it, I attached it. Enjoy
If you need help with the 3G param please ask

Hi,

thanks again for sharing this application with us !

Help with some of the params much appreciated, but could you pls comment if you get values for all params on all screens ?
(Of course I do not mean those, which don't show up in idle but only active mode.)

In idle mode the complete BCCH params from the radio layer should show up. For me only RSSI (field level in dBm I hope) and RXqual show up, all other values are on N/A (not available).

If they do show up on your TyTN (you do have a TyTN, don't ya ?) I think we would have to kindly ask you to share also the "missing links" with us:

I'm afraid - as was with the Engineering Mode of the predecessor models - there need to be entered some secret Registry Keys.

Probably you know how to invoke the Fieldtest Mode and it would be great if you could finally also contribute this knowledge here. TIA

eeter

18-08-2006, 03:20 AM

ghl10000

18-08-2006, 08:50 AM

All parmeters should show. Only few are in Hex . I have a Hermes 100 Rom 1.24
I am in touch with some HTC engineers and will ask if registry should be tweaked which I doubt. Do not forget to go to file and click on start
needless to say that you need a UMTS/HSDPA coverage

Wow !
This would be great.
I am quite convinced that some registry modifications have to be done (or these are automatically set by a special firmware version).

But let me recall your mail:

You have got firmware 1.24 ???

This also seems to be the latest version, which apparently isn't yet released (all reports posted here mention 1.18.xxx.x).

I faintly remember that the Enineering mode application for the predecessor models (which showed up far less details than the one you posted) needed the firmware versions with the AKU2; but I might be mistaken with that.
Could anybody here btw verify if that is (was) true ?

My Device Info shows the following (I have the German localized version but that shouldn't influence proper operation of that application):

ROM: 1.18.257.2
ROM Date: 05/30/06
Radio: 1.03.03.10
Protocol: 32.34.7010.01H

And YES - both UMTS and HSDPA coverage is excellent here :-)

I am curious if we would get this application to work here...

Regards
ghl10000

P.S.
I am none of these "firmware junkies" calling all the time for the "latest" firmware. But did you experience any improvements with the 1.24 ?
I couldn't think of big ones upfront that would make it worth while upgrading immediately though (with the predecessor models the AKU2 pack definitely was one, as I've been - and still am with the Hermes - using DirectPush heavily). Just curious.

rabmc

19-08-2006, 09:41 AM

nice find...!

Is there anyway my Wizard can be tweaked to use this fully... at the moment it gives me very limited info - or am i gonna have to buy a Hermes? :roll:

Also if possible could you provide details of all the menu/option/parameters please.

Thanks again

rob

cyus6366

20-08-2006, 10:17 PM

fieldtest.exe working on wizard instead of test mode?

eeter

21-08-2006, 09:07 AM

The GSM/UMTS/HS in Hermes is based on the Qualcomm chip 6280
This chip release many measurements and fieldtest.exe extracts and displays all the info from this chip
It is not the case with Wizard

ghl10000

21-08-2006, 12:35 PM

Still no information on how to get this application working ???

pof

21-08-2006, 01:17 PM

The GSM/UMTS/HS in Hermes is based on the Qualcomm chip 6280
This chip release many measurements and fieldtest.exe extracts and displays all the info from this chip

eeter: does fieldtest.exe works on your device? On my TyTN it doesn't show much information, almost everything is N/A.

How do you know the Hermes has the MSM6280 chipset?
Do you have more information on hermes hardware?

Thanks!

eeter

21-08-2006, 03:14 PM

It is either the 6275 or 6280.
Yesw it works fine. Everthing is in decimal execpt few values in Hex
I'll post a screen snapshot later unless you tell me how to capture a screen shot within Wizard/Hermes. I have ROM 1.24

pof

21-08-2006, 03:37 PM

It is either the 6275 or 6280.
How do you know that? Do you have more detailed hardware specs on other chips on the Hermes? This info is very useful for the linux port...

Yesw it works fine. Everthing is in decimal execpt few values in Hex
I'll post a screen snapshot later unless you tell me how to capture a screen shot within Wizard/Hermes.
I use remote display control (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/wce/downloads/ppctoys.mspx) to capture screenshots, but it's ok, I believe you even without screenshot :)

Mine looks like this: :(

http://forum.xda-developers.com/files/sized/fieldtest1-200.png

I have ROM 1.24
ROM 1.24?? is it WWE rom? From which Hermes version?
Can you update the table here with your info:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Versions

thanks!

ghl10000

21-08-2006, 04:14 PM

Hi,

I think it would be of BIG help if you, eeter, could contribute an extract of various registry sections.

It is very likely that there are special (uncommunicated) registry keys inserted and set to special values, which then invoke display of the complete Fieldtest.

Problem is:
I cannot ask you to upload a complete dump of your registry because this would contain your IMEI, several user names and pass keys from you etc.
We wouldn't need all this (just extracts from special sections from the registry) and it also be undecent to even ask you.

pof, what do you think:
How could we assist eeter as much as possible to (automatically) dump only these sections of the registry, which are likely to contain these keys, but do not contain "sensitive" data from eeter's configuration ?

+++

Of course there's still the possibility that the fieldtest needs a special firmware version or special (additional) files or values .ini's.
To get this information would then be quite challenging if not next to impossible :-(

ghl10000

21-08-2006, 04:14 PM

pof

21-08-2006, 04:52 PM

I have some doubts... as none of us has the fieldtest.exe in our roms, and he claims to have a 1.24 rom, most probably fieldtest is included in his rom release but not in ours, but I don't know wher did he get a device with that ROM and haven't seen anyone in the forums with any rom newer than 1.23 yet... :?

We have some possibilities:

1) "backporting" fieldtest.exe from eeter's 1.24 rom, we would need that
1.1) he dumps his imgfs with the instructions here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoDumpRom
1.2) we can extract the contents of the imgfs with the instructions here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoExtractImgfs
1.3) try importing (some or all of) these files (which fieldtest.exe is linked to) to our current rom:
COREDLL.dll, OLEAUT32.dll, commctrl.dll, AYGSHELL.dll, ril.dll
1.4) importing missing registry keys from his rom, he can always hard reset and export the full registry to not post sensitive data.

This will fail if the program has depenencys on the radio rom, as probably he has a newer one than us.

2) We can try that he dumps the full rom to microSD card, using bootloader and commands "d2s" or "r2sd" (don't know about which commands are available on the Hermes bootloader yet), then we can restore the rom from storage on our devices using "s2d".

Or... probably someone can enlighten us with a simplyier possibility I haven't thought of :)

eva_d

21-08-2006, 06:41 PM

fieldtest.exe working on wizard instead of test mode?

no, it doesn't. i've just checked.

eva_d

21-08-2006, 06:44 PM

I'll post a screen snapshot later unless you tell me how to capture a screen shot within Wizard/Hermes.

i'm using Pocket Screen Capture (attached). after execution you have 5 seconds to reach screen which you want to capture, then it's saved in bmp format in device's \Temp folder.

eva_d

21-08-2006, 06:46 PM

It is very likely that there are special (uncommunicated) registry keys inserted and set to special values, which then invoke display of the complete Fieldtest.

i'd rather say it depends on some external libraries (.dll) which are not included (or are included but with limited functions) with standard ROM release.

eeter

21-08-2006, 07:02 PM

I'lltry to send a snapshot of the various screens shortly ( I am traveling )
Remmeber that in UMTS measurments are event driven
The phone will not display any GSM value if you are connected to UMTS
and vice versa. It will not show any UMTS measurements unless you trigger an event such as making a phone call or starting a data session or handing over GSM etc..
All phones based on the Qualcomm ship( LG, Samsung MOT ) displays the same engineering measurments.

ROM version: 1.24/502.2
ROM date: 07/21/06
Radio version: 1.07.03.00
Protocol version 32.41.7010.02H

eeter

21-08-2006, 07:23 PM

Here are the snapshots . I'll send others for GSM/AMR/EGPRS since I need to change the SIM card to force the phone to GSM

Cheers

eeter

21-08-2006, 07:30 PM

snapshots

eeter

21-08-2006, 07:44 PM

gsm/amr/edge

rabmc

21-08-2006, 07:45 PM

gsm/amr/edge

certainly looks like thats what i'm after... need to get my hands on a herme/tytn now.... :D

pof

22-08-2006, 08:31 AM

ROM version: 1.24/502.2
ROM date: 07/21/06
Radio version: 1.07.03.00
Protocol version 32.41.7010.02H

This is the most up to date ROM I've seen until now... :shock:
Is it an HTC TyTN or a rebranded by some operator?
Which IPL / SPL version does it have?

jeezus

22-08-2006, 10:48 AM

ghl10000

22-08-2006, 04:09 PM

[quote="jeezus"
Flashing is fun...[/quote]

Yes and no.

If you are experienced enough not to screw up your bootloader and/or you do not rely on your phone and just have it for experimenting - then yes.

No, if you neither have the Release Notes document nor know which new features or bugfixes an upgrade (update) - or let's better call it "higher firmware version" - brings and you do rely on your phone.

Taking a risk for virtually nothing isn't worth while - except (as said) if it is REALLY just out of fun for you !

I wouldn't recommend others here frenetically just to hunt for "higher firmware numbers" (they might in some cases not even bear a more recent ROM) without pointing out the (potential) risk applied.

We should avoid too many complaints here like "I screwed up my device - HELP !!!!!!!", because the mission of this forum (which is open after all to experts and non-experts) should be to contribute to the benefit of all users.

Or trying to get hands on these (confidential) Release Notes documents from HTC :)

rabmc

22-08-2006, 08:02 PM

has anyone tried fieldteste.exe with the Tmobile UK vario 2 yet?

eva_d

22-08-2006, 09:03 PM

has anyone tried fieldteste.exe with the Tmobile UK vario 2 yet?

yes, and it... WORKS!!! :))))))))

eeter

23-08-2006, 12:14 AM

New ROM 1.30
IPL 1.00
SPL 1.04

jeezus

23-08-2006, 04:22 AM

[quote=]"jeezus"
Flashing is fun...
yada yada yada....

Indeed, flashing is dangerous and all that. But please stop worrying about it in everyother thread. if youre not willing to take the risk, however small or big, dont do it.

If someone bricked his/her phone by flashing and not knowing what the h*ll he or she was doing, Its not my problem. All I can say to that kind of people is RTFM, there is lot of information available to minimize the risk. So if someone doesnt dig up information and ruins his or her phone, dont come crying to me.

pof

23-08-2006, 10:27 AM

New ROM 1.30

Look here for the ROMs we have:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades

At the moment the latest public ROM is 1.23.707.4 07/21/06 and the latest public radio ROM is 1.07.03.10.

Your ROM shows version 1.30.502.1 08/21/06 and radio ROM version 1.11.00.00. The ROM date is from 2 days ago!! and still not public in any place.

Where do you get these rom upgrades? Do you work for HTC?

Can you upload them to FTP? You'll have a lot of beta testers :P

skygear

23-08-2006, 05:47 PM

are you sure you arent cooking these yourself...........

yak86

23-08-2006, 07:19 PM

wow.. seriously.. can you hook us up with the new ROM? What are the improvements? Care to leak any new deets?

And BTW.. is this engineering app able to check if a HSDPA signal is available? With the U, I have no idea. especially with speeds being so slow (200-300kbps), i should be UMTS settings, but i don't know if something is wrong with my settings cuz HSDPA should be available here by now so I want to know if HSDPA signals are in the air, but my device is just not translating it.

Thanks!

jeezus

23-08-2006, 07:32 PM

are you sure you arent cooking these yourself...........

heh, I bet theyre photoshopped. ;)

eva_d

23-08-2006, 08:51 PM

At the moment the latest public ROM is 1.23.707.4 07/21/06 and the latest public radio ROM is 1.07.03.10.

Vario II case shows, that FieldTest application does not depend on ROM version. my Vario II has 1.21 ROM, but FieldTest works without trouble!

eeter

24-08-2006, 01:15 AM

If you want to know whether you are in HSDPA or R99, you can check HSDPA CQI STATUS in the field test group. If it displays 33 it means you are. HSDPA speed might be limited to 1.2 or 1.8 mb because of the backhaul ( if you are the only one using it :). Sierra Wireless card 875 can go up to 3.8 mb ( I am using it to upload this message )

eeter

24-08-2006, 01:20 AM

If you keep teasing me I'll upload the ROM 1.30.....
Seriously, I cannot do it before the Hermes is released comercially in the US. I hope very soon ( few weeks )

pof

24-08-2006, 01:22 AM

If you keep teasing me I'll upload the ROM 1.30.....
Seriously, I cannot do it before the Hermes is released comercially in the US. I hope very soon ( few weeks )

pleeease!

We won't tell anyone ;)

arima

24-08-2006, 01:26 AM

Since you seem to have connections, can you do us the courtesy of trying to find out why the field test isn't showing values for many of us if, as you say, it's not connected to the ROM?

I'd love to get some field test goodness, i'm running 1.18.255.3/1.03.03.10.

Perhaps more importantly, why does the US release matter? The reality is we'll see different ROMs from the carriers (Cingular/T-Mobile) that are unlikely to have any connection to the ROM you mention.

Are the dropping of UMTS calls fixed in this release? What i'd really like to do is use the field test mode to determine why my calls are disconnecting with full signal. That is a pretty serious problem.

Please provide more deets, anything you can share would be helpful. Thanks eeter.

pof

24-08-2006, 01:34 AM

arima

24-08-2006, 01:46 AM

Can I use the Dopod/TMob ROMs on a WWE unbranded device if I want to remain unlocked?

pof

24-08-2006, 01:51 AM

yes, the rom upgrades will not lock your device... you can flash them and revert back to the HTC rom if you don't like the upgrade.

skygear

24-08-2006, 04:12 AM

well my suspicions are growing ...... my theory..... eeter is in the deployment/ testing phase for some company in the us/canada or is a beta tester for someone..... mabey htc usa.... ,my original post was to provoke comment and TEASE you as you say... trying to get that rom .....

mitch345

24-08-2006, 06:53 AM

Just read the old posts of eeter. He is testing the cingular version of the Hermes and is in touch with HTC. This rom has probably no video call software...

I read also on an other post that a new rom is coming in few days. It could be the same as eeter...

ghl10000

24-08-2006, 03:57 PM

I'd love to get some field test goodness, i'm running 1.18.255.3/1.03.03.10.

Upgrade to a newer rom, then it'll work:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades

or wait until eeter posts his 1.30 rom ;)

Is there any factual proof that a version higher than 1.18 supports the Fieldtest ?

eeter had 1.24 when he reported about the Fieldtest (which is working on his phone); now he is on 1.30.
An other guy here with a phone from a T-Mobile operator is on 1.21 and he reported it worked.

pof

24-08-2006, 05:15 PM

Is there any factual proof that a version higher than 1.18 supports the Fieldtest ?

In dopod ROM version 1.23.707.4 07/21/06 with radio 1.06.00.10 it works without problems, all menus and values are shown correctly.

In Imate ROM version 1.20.305.3 07/21/06 whith radio 1.07.03.10 it doesn't work.

rabmc

24-08-2006, 08:54 PM

is there any way to force the handset onto either 2G or 3G for testing purposes... like you can with the nokia netmonitor....

any ideas/suggestions?

thanks

:D

eva_d

24-08-2006, 08:57 PM

is there any way to force the handset onto either 2G or 3G for testing purposes... like you can with the nokia netmonitor....

any ideas/suggestions?

start -> settings -> phone -> band -> auto/gsm (when auto is selected, phone will always prefer 3G over GSM)

rabmc

24-08-2006, 08:59 PM

arima

25-08-2006, 03:15 PM

Any reason why I can't use the Dopod ROM on a HERM200 device even though it states its for HERM100?

Where are the flashing instructions?

pof

25-08-2006, 04:02 PM

You can use the dopod rom on a HERM200 device, I have it on my HTC TyTN which is also HERM200. Flashing instructions here:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades

eva_d

25-08-2006, 06:35 PM

If you want to know whether you are in HSDPA or R99, you can check HSDPA CQI STATUS in the field test group. If it displays 33 it means you are.

what about if it displays 31?

eeter

25-08-2006, 08:18 PM

eva_d

25-08-2006, 08:28 PM

Anthing > 0 means you are using HSDPA

CQI is a kind of scheduling : the Node B receives a channel
quality indicator (CQI) from the handsets (UEs). The Node B schedules transmission of packets to all UEs over the shared channels. The channel or pipe is divided into 2 millisecond durations.

thanks for explanation! i can tell it's your daily bread. :) i'm really keen to get know more about UMTS/HSDPA, as i'm some kinda GSM mobile networks geek (ie. i've started largest, independent polish BTS database under http://btsearch.org which now holds over 10000 records).

arima

26-08-2006, 12:01 AM

Thanks, everything works well with latest DOPOD ROM.

Look forward to getting a new TyTN version, the Dopod ROM looks a little faster.

eeter, if you work or test for CW, send me a PM, I work for a vendor.

sabesh

18-09-2006, 12:59 AM

I updated to the latest Dopod ROM and the field test app works very well. I get upto 1050 kbit/sec with weak HSDPA signal strength (one to two bars in my house). I'm with Rogers Wireless in Mississauga, Ontario, Canada. Here's are the screen caps which include HSDPA and it's corresponding GSM & GPRS screens:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sabesh/Misc/rogers04.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sabesh/Misc/capture002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sabesh/Misc/capture003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sabesh/Misc/capture004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/sabesh/Misc/capture005.jpg

andyf1

02-10-2006, 12:32 PM

Any way of finding out the current Cell ID using this or any other piece of software?

Thanks.

Andy

eeter

02-10-2006, 08:15 PM

andyf1

04-10-2006, 04:24 PM

Unfortunately, field test will not give the cellid but it gives you the PSC ( Primary Scrambling Code) which is unique for each cell

Look under 3G reselection status and read the PSC1
You can find it uder 3G DCH group too

Cheers

Thanks. Ended up using my Nokia 6630 and the great 'Celltrack' application which gave me everythnig I needed, including enough evidence to get Orange to accept that there was a longstanding fault on their network which I've been arguing about for over 6 months.

LinoX

23-10-2006, 12:05 PM

Almost every value gives N/A

pof

23-10-2006, 12:19 PM

Almost every value gives N/A

Upgrade to a newer rom.

LinoX

23-10-2006, 12:44 PM

Thanks, pof.. i've already read the whole post but I don't want to upgrade to dopod or any other english rom.. I'm waiting for an ITALIAN rom (but I've already upgraded my device to radio 1.20) so it seems that the values don't depend on radio version.

Lurker0

23-10-2006, 07:51 PM

To those who see it working:

Could you please give me ril.dll and rilgps.dll? They should be in your \Windows directory. There is a chance that in newer ROM versions these DLLs have implemented the needed functions.

javaoverride2003

24-10-2006, 01:58 AM

this is the best site ive seen on the net keep up all the good work dont know if this helps but is worked for me i was getting n\a on most of the ops so i moved the feild test exe to the windows folder and soft rest my tytn and as if by magic no more n/a

rom ver 1.18.255.3
extrom ver 1.18.225.106

IGNORE THIS POST SORRY GUYS:eek:

zarrar

25-10-2006, 03:34 PM

@eeter,

It is possible that something like this can also be made available for HTC Wizard? I work for a cellphone company in Engineering department and such a thing would be great.

Cheers,

eeter

26-10-2006, 06:33 AM

Zarrar,

The key is the Qualcomm chipset which makes these measurements available. Fieldtest only extract and display them. Similar application exist for all other vendors using the QC chipset. HTC uses fieldtest to assess the performance of the UE (handset) and not the network. This why a parmeter such as the cellid is missing
The GSM wizard does have a similar utility ( I don't remmeber the name ) but it dispalys most of the measurment in HEX

:)

jkn13

26-10-2006, 09:11 PM

I have following Rom Version:

ROM: 1.20.162.3
ROM Date: 06/13/06
Radio: 1.16.00.00
Protocol: 32.53.7018.01W

German Vodafone Image

Fieldtest Display n/a on all Pages

Can you help me. ?

Sorry for my English

rabmc

27-10-2006, 07:07 PM

Thanks. Ended up using my Nokia 6630 and the great 'Celltrack' application which gave me everythnig I needed, including enough evidence to get Orange to accept that there was a longstanding fault on their network which I've been arguing about for over 6 months.

you could have used nokia's version of netmonitor instead of celltrack.. ah well

jkn13

31-10-2006, 01:24 PM

Hallo,

I have following Rom Version:

ROM: 1.20.162.3
ROM Date: 06/13/06
Radio: 1.16.00.00
Protocol: 32.53.7018.01W

German Vodafone Image

Fieldtest.exe Display n/a on all Pages

Can you help me. ?

eeter

31-10-2006, 09:39 PM

Next release of fieldtest will include the cell-id

Lurker0

31-10-2006, 10:39 PM

Next release of fieldtest will include the cell-idCould you please check the same source how to run it on the original TyTN ROM?

Will you post the new version here?

svdbremt

08-11-2006, 07:51 PM

Hallo

I have tested the software fieldtest_157.exe and it works fine.
I have seen that some fields are missing in 2G & in 3G

In 2G I mis (or I don't find it):
- CI
- MA
- MAIO
- HSN
- TA
- RX access min
- C1 & C2

In 3 G it was very good (only some points missing or not working):
- Detection of 2 carier
- CI

For the rest is the soft very good

telstrapaul

10-11-2006, 04:46 AM

Gents sorry in advance of this is the wrong post or I have missed a fix fore the issue I am trying to track down how to set up Engineering mode on this phone, I have tried to run the files mentioned but they do not appear to work can anyone help me out:) :)

so_olala

08-12-2006, 06:22 AM

I have check the HSDPA CQI no.1.....to 10, but only some of the reading get 31(>0), is it in HSDPA mode already?????not sure?

jkn13

08-12-2006, 08:19 AM

No Answer to my Question.
Can anyone help me ????

Hallo,

I have following Rom Version:

ROM: 1.20.162.3
ROM Date: 06/13/06
Radio: 1.16.00.00
Protocol: 32.53.7018.01W

German Vodafone Image

Fieldtest.exe Display n/a on all Pages

Can you help me. ?

pof

08-12-2006, 09:25 AM

@jkn13: upgrade to a newer rom.

Lurker0

12-12-2006, 02:27 PM

I have no a ROM to upgrade to, but currently I have FieldTest running and showing all those funny values :D A usual disclamer: do it on your own risk blah-blah-blah!

Backup all your data, because you may end up with a hard reset!
Download an Extended ROM (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtendedRoms) that contains a rilgsm.dll, extracted from a ROM version that is known to work with FieldTest. I used Dopod 838 Pro ROM 1.30.707.4 ExtROM (ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Hermes/Extended_ROMs/Dopod_838Pro_1.30.707.4.zip). You may try a different one, e.g. because of your language preferences...
Extract a CAB file that contains the RIL update. P_HER_RIL_0911.CAB in my case.
Unpack that CAB file on your PC. You'll need a file with a name like 00rilgsm.001, 333KB or so in size.
Rename that file to rilgsm.dll, and copy it to your phone (not desktop!) \Windows directory. I've done it using Resco Explorer, other tools may be in help as well. You'd be warned before the actual copying several times...
Make a soft reset to be sure that the new DLL is in use.

Well, you may try to install the CAB itself, but it does some compatibility checks, I don't know what else it modifies...

To uninstall,

Go to \Windows directory with a file manager.
Rename the rilgsm.dll e.g. to rigsm1.dll.
Soft reset.
Go to \Windows directory and delete that rilgsm1.dll file. You should see the original rilgsm.dll there.

I did all the steps above by myself and they work. I'd ask somebody more experienced in Wiki editing to append the Field Test article here (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Utils) with instructions above.

Thanks for reading so far ;)

pof

12-12-2006, 02:36 PM

Thanks Lurker0, wiki updated :)

Lurker0

12-12-2006, 02:38 PM

Thank you, I'm sure I couldn't do it as fast!:cool:

xpimperx

12-12-2006, 05:07 PM

Lurker0,

Thanks a lot. I did what you said it and it worked. I have an Imate phone with the Arabic ExtRom, but i used the same file as Lurker0 and now i can see all the fields.

Much appreciated.

Thanks,

jkn13

14-12-2006, 04:25 PM

Thank you, it works fine.

tr4657

22-12-2006, 03:37 AM

Thank you, it works fine.

OK OK.... I successfully did it and test it with Celcom 3G network. But the parameters seems to be known only to the experts AKA engineers. I am a researcher (study leave for PhDP - LOL), where can I get the meaning of those PSC1, ECNO 1... etc?

pof

22-12-2006, 09:04 AM

Here's the fieldtest manual by austin_boy:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286779

Search the wikipedia for the values you don't know the mining :)

rfmanganaro

22-12-2006, 03:59 PM

Hy Guys

Congratulations as the forum is really excellent!

I need a Hsdpa Field test Mobile and I was thinkng to buy a doopod 838 pro, is the application working on this PDA? What is the ROM i need for make the application working fine?
Somebody tested the phone? Is the phone performing well (Cpich rscp, EcNo, cell reselection, Power Control.....)is the CQI reporting acceptable?

Thanks lot,
rf manganaro

Lurker0

22-12-2006, 04:34 PM

Mobile and I was thinkng to buy a doopod 838 pro, is the application working on this PDA?Please learn how to read and search before asking. For instance, read this my post:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1075364&postcount=79

Doesn't it answer your question? Just think for a minute...

cr2

22-12-2006, 05:11 PM

Hmm. what is so special about this specific rilgsm.dll version (a genuine question) ?
pof, i'd like to run such software on the universal too :)

rfmanganaro

24-12-2006, 08:48 AM

Apparently you don`t understand the question, by the way i allready solved the problem, i bought it and is working, thanks and good luck!

bastos

25-12-2006, 04:56 PM

I have a HTC Tytn I have tried to load the dll and the field test still not working.
Tried on a Dopod 838pro and it works fine, there is no need to start fieldtest from the windows directory, any directory is fine.
Comparing the 2 models I see Dopod 838pro is HERM 100 and HTC Tynt is HERM 200.
Dont know what is the difference.
Any suggestions how to have field test working?:confused:

HTC Tytn (HERM 200) - field test Not working
ROM version 1.18.255.3
ROM date 05/03/06
Radio Version 1.03.03.10
Protocol Version 32.34.7010.01H
ExtROM version 1.18.255.105

DOPOD 838 pro (HERM 100) - field test working fine

ROM version 1.23.707.4
ROM date 07/21/06
Radio Version 1.06.00.10
Protocol Version 32.37.7010.01H

Thanks!
Joao

Lurker0

25-12-2006, 05:10 PM

I have a HTC Tytn I have tried to load the dll and the field test still not working.Did you copy the DLL into \Windows directory over the existing one and then soft reset?

The difference between HERM100 and HERM200 is only buttons layout. I have HERM200 as well. I'd suggest you to read the instruction and follow it carefully.

bastos

25-12-2006, 05:21 PM

Pof, Arima,
From the posts I understand you guys also have the tytn and have managed to get it working after upgrading to a dopod rom.
Which dopod rom you used.
What is the risk of this upgrade process?

From the upgrade instruction can't manage to find the boot loader version, understand it is only possible with version 1.04 to perform the upgrade.
Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Lurker0

25-12-2006, 05:25 PM

Which dopod rom you used.
What is the risk of this upgrade process?
Any suggestions?
The only suggestion is to read WiKi and numerous threads about ROM upgrades, bootloader versions and Super ID unlocking. All you asked was already answered.

bastos

25-12-2006, 05:28 PM

Did you copy the DLL into \Windows directory over the existing one and then soft reset?

The difference between HERM100 and HERM200 is only buttons layout. I have HERM200 as well. I'd suggest you to read the instruction and follow it carefully.
Hi Lurker0,

I copied the dll to the windows directory and did a soft reset.
Currently I see on my device (file explorer \windows):
....
ril.dll 12/04/06 50.0K
rilgsm 30/05/06 297K
...
when clicking over the dll I am only allowed to Copy, cannot cut, rename, delete, etc..

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

bastos

25-12-2006, 05:35 PM

Hi Lurker0,

I copied the dll to the windows directory and did a soft reset.
Currently I see on my device (file explorer \windows):
....
ril.dll 12/04/06 50.0K
rilgsm 30/05/06 297K
...
when clicking over the dll I am only allowed to Copy, cannot cut, rename, delete, etc..

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
when I copied the rilgsm dll to my device there was only ril dll so I made no replacement, are u suggesting I delete the existing ril dll?

Lurker0

25-12-2006, 05:35 PM

rilgsm 30/05/06 297KThe one from Dopod ROM is 333KB, and most likely should be dated by the date of extraction from CAB.

You don't need to copy the old DLL. You need to paste a new one over the old one. Please re-read the instruction and follow it carefully.

Lurker0

25-12-2006, 05:37 PM

when I copied the rilgsm dll to my device there was only ril dll so I made no replacement, are u suggesting I delete the existing ril dll?Which file manager do you use? Does it show files in ROM? It looks like it does not. Check file manager options to show ROM files.

bastos

25-12-2006, 06:18 PM

Hi Lurker0,

Yup the problem was with file explorer, I installed the resco explorer, replaced the file, and is working :)
Thanks for your help!

easier solution than upgrading the rom.
Thanks!

mrobert

04-01-2007, 11:28 AM

Works great on my Orange SPV 3100.

Now ... how could I retrieve LAC/CID to use them with www.GSM-Tracker.com ?

gregnash

22-01-2007, 09:45 PM

Next release of fieldtest will include the cell-id
G'day.
I've only seen mention of version 157. Is there any news on "Next release"?

thanks

gunrum44

16-02-2007, 03:23 AM

Hey im wondering what the latest ROM version is for my phone
and if theres e news on fieldtest update. i have 157 working great so far

Ive got a jasjam which is
Model no.: HERM100 pocketPC
Platform: PocketPC

ROM version: 1.31.305.2
ROM date: 09/08/06
Radio: 1.20.31.10
Protocol: 32.52.7020.00H
ExtROM: 1.31.305.103

davw

26-03-2007, 06:30 AM

Still no new version of fieldtest with CI visible ?

Commmgrpro shows the CI on my Tytn but this program freezes my HTC very often...:(

samsat

16-04-2007, 12:38 PM

I assume that having the latest AKU3 loaded on my Tytn I dont need to do the old ROM fiddle to get field test to work.
I dont have a filedtest.exe entry in my windows folder.
I have downloaded fieldtest_157.exe, it will not run on my Tytn.

What do I need to do to get this working.

Thanks for a great website.

ChrisfromAustralia

29-05-2007, 10:04 AM

RandomDude

29-05-2007, 12:21 PM

Hi everyone,

Just wondering what the PSC number is displayed in...Is it HEX or DEC?
I cannot get the correct SC for a base station on my JASJAM.
FTD seems to have all the parameters & all of the screens work fine but i think the values it gives me are wrong.

Can anyone help...I might be doing something wrong here.
The rom im using is the Original Telstra rom that came with the device.

Thanks
Chris.

Hi Chris,

The PSC is in decimal.

If you like, if you give me a Street Address and Suburb, i can give you the PSC's for the area...

Also make sure your phone is set to 850MHZ and not 2100MHZ

kiokoman

30-05-2007, 12:23 AM

eva_d

30-05-2007, 07:01 AM

works great with my htc tytn (HERM 200) with rom wm6 black 3.5 , radio 1.41.00.10 and fieldtest 157 on my memory card
I have to softreset my device after using it because the system freeze after some minutes

Fieldtest is working great with my LVSW WM6 ROM, but I don't need to reset device after using it. :-o

ChrisfromAustralia

30-05-2007, 10:48 AM

Thanks for the info,

But for some reason the sc is not correct...or it simply is not connected to the base that i am near.COuld it be possible that its picking up another base station's sc & not the one im closest to?...i have tried to re cycle my phone & still cannot latch onto the sc...Its not even in the neighbours list.
The phone is definetly connected to the 850 network because im using an 850 Sim.

Chris.

ericdog

10-06-2007, 09:27 AM

Hi Chris,

If you like, if you give me a Street Address and Suburb, i can give you the PSC's for the area...

I have just got a WCDMA SIM and am using a jasjam with fieldtest 157..

Would it be difficult to get the PSC's for the southern highlands NSW area ? Say, Wollongong, Bowral, Goulburn and surrounding areas ??

Im also keen to see if a new version of fieldtest is coming out as I read in this thread... It would also be good to be able to customise what parameters you see on one fieldtest "screen"....

I was used to using "celltrack" on my old symbian phone, and I liked how it loooked.. FT has much much more info.

RandomDude

11-06-2007, 03:43 PM

Would it be difficult to get the PSC's for the southern highlands NSW area ? Say, Wollongong, Bowral, Goulburn and surrounding areas ??

Keep an eye on this thread, i'll see what I can do

ericdog

12-06-2007, 05:53 AM

Keep an eye on this thread, i'll see what I can do

Thanks, RD, much appreciated.

I have worked out a couple already just from where I have been going, and my knowledge of the sites about.

65 is near me, so I know that one ! (that'll tell you near to where I am)
227 seems to be Mt Gib at bowral

Although, I was doing some testing (as telstra have given me 10 days in a logged agreement, to see if I am happy with the nextCDMA system, and if not, I can go back to the old CDMA) and in this test, I was in a bad area (deliberately) just to test the nextCDMA against the old CDMA, and I was on PSC 49, which I think is nowhere near where I was..

I'm finding that the nextCDMA is pretty close in performance to the old CDMA.

A list would be real handy. If you would rather email it, I can give you my email address..

Whenever you have the time..

Regards,

Eric TLD.

RandomDude

17-06-2007, 11:37 AM

Thanks, RD, much appreciated.

I had a look at the amount of sites telstra has around those areas... and its huge!

We're talking about 50+ sites with 3 scambling codes per site (3 sectors) so it would help if you could give me particular locations in the same area!

Its just that i need to check manually :P

ericdog

17-06-2007, 12:11 PM

I had a look at the amount of sites telstra has around those areas... and its huge!

We're talking about 50+ sites with 3 scambling codes per site (3 sectors) so it would help if you could give me particular locations in the same area!

Its just that i need to check manually :P

Oh, ok, I thought you might have just had the list in a file or something to be able to get the info. I know that on the old CDMA, quite a few sites around here had 3 sectors..

It might be easier if I just found the PSC numbers as I run around and let you know, then you could check the sites for me ??

If so, 49, 289 and 308 are a couple so far that I havent worked out. I keep a "notes" file in the jasjam to keep a log of them as I move about.

Also, are the numbers re-used in other areas (a large distance away), or is every site/sector unique ?

Thanks again,

Eric TLD.

RandomDude

18-06-2007, 06:13 PM

ericdog

19-06-2007, 01:52 PM

No problem,

i'm having problems extracting the SC from the database I use so i'm checking them manually.

I noticed you live in Bowral, and i can tell you what codes are nearby (telstra nextg):

Mt Gibraltar: (you'd already confirmed this)
227 (Omni-directional)

Moss Vale:
251 (Omni)

BERRIMA HURDLE RIDGE:
235 (omni)

Happy hunting!

Oh and yes the numbers are re-used throughout Australia. I'm not 100% sure but I think they go up to 500 as the biggest number.

If you give me a location, or even GPS coords of where you are, then i can track it down easier.

Hi RandomDude, you're a champion. Thanks for taking the time to help me with this info, much appreciated (would you like beer).

found 251 easily
267 seems to be between moss vale and the hume hwy ? Not sure of sectors, maybe 2
275 is around sutton forest. I wild be interested to know where.
283 should be in there somewhere...
291 seems to be freestone
299 seems to be the north sector of the site that is just south of marulan
307 seems to be the south sector of 299
13 I think is Mt Grey (goulburn)
277, I have no idea - it came up when I was at a comms site near goulburn. Would like to know this one.
65 is the transgrid site near Robertson. I think it is a 3 sector site (it was on CDMA).. Could you confirm this, and the PSC's.
308, no idea, would like to know.
153 seems to be red rocks near cambewarra mtn (nowra). Does it have other sectors ?

There seems to be a difference of 8 between adjoining PSC's (sometimes).

I'd like the PSC's for these sites if its not too much trouble:

Knights Hill.
Hilltop.
Anything near mittagong.
Razorback near picton.
Albion park.
Kiama.
Dapto.
Mt Keira.
Berkeley ridge.
Wollongong.
Anything near bundanoon.

I wont over-do your generosity. Its just so great to find someone that can get the info. Ultimately, it will lead me to be able to get a good grip on the nextCDMA system in our area, and maybe help spot coverage problems.

On another note, and I'm not sure if eeter is still about here, but there is a little change that I would really love to get made to fieldtest. It would be good to be able to have a little file that goes with the fieldtest executable wher we could put in the PSC numeric code, then the site name and the fieldtest program could scan this file and match the PSC (and other identifying stats) to a site name and display it on the WCDMA group page, in the 3 lines under where servingPSC_1, servingPSC_2 and servingPSC_3 are shown respectively. It would save looking at a written list all the time, and, with enough of us around, we could get the PSC's etc for a large area without having to be too annoying :)

I wonder if this is a difficult change ? I wonder what FT is written in (vb.net ?) Theres a few good parameters that I would like to be able to bring up on one custom-like group page. If I could get the info on how to poll the parameters from the modem/RF chips using vb.net, I would have a play myself. Even a scrolling graph of the servingAGC and a decent ECNO value.

I'm probably getting carried away now. I really love using fieldtest, as it gives you good insight into the operation of your phone.

RandomDude

21-06-2007, 05:27 AM

Ok Eric, give me a few days and i'll do what I can :D

RandomDude

23-06-2007, 10:43 AM

Sorry in advance for the crudeness of this post but i've had a hard day and im tired :P

Below is the name of the site were possible - SectorNum:PSC
1 sector is omni only

267 seems to be between moss vale and the hume hwy ? Not sure of sectors, maybe 2
275 is around sutton forest. I wild be interested to know where.

(SUTTON FORREST - 1:259, 2:275, 3:267 - 200km cell)

283 should be in there somewhere...
(BUNDANOON - 1:283)

291 seems to be freestone
(1:291 - 200km cell)

299 seems to be the north sector of the site that is just south of marulan
307 seems to be the south sector of 299
(1:299, 2:307)

13 I think is Mt Grey (goulburn)
(1:13)

277, I have no idea - it came up when I was at a comms site near goulburn. Would like to know this one.
(Goulburn TE 1:277)

65 is the transgrid site near Robertson. I think it is a 3 sector site (it was on CDMA).. Could you confirm this, and the PSC's.

(ROBERTSON 1:49, 2:57, 3:65)

308, no idea, would like to know.

153 seems to be red rocks near cambewarra mtn (nowra). Does it have other sectors ?
(RED ROCKS 1:137, 2:145, 3:153)

Knights Hill. (1:73)
Hilltop. (Jindabyne 1:101)
Anything near mittagong.(Mt Gibralta 1:227, Braemar 1:123)
Razorback near picton.( PICTON VAULT HILL 1:36, RAZORBACK 1:389, 2:405, 3:397)
Albion park. (1:25, 2:33, 3:41 - OAK FLATS Mineral Road 1:203, 2:211, 3:219 - Signal Hill 1:1, 2:9, 3:17 )
Kiama. (Kiama 1:81)
Dapto. (Dapto 1:99, 2:107, 3:115 - Mt Brown 1:131, 2:139)
Mt Keira. (1:164)
Berkeley ridge. (berkeley tops 1:51, 2:59, 3:67)
Wollongong.
(Wollongong 1:196, 2:204, 3:212 - mount st thomas 1:268, 2:276, 3:284 - Nareena Hills 1:220, 2:228, 3:236 - Wollong Hospital 1:28, 2:18, 3:23)

Anything near bundanoon. (bundanoon 1:283)

ericdog

24-06-2007, 05:11 AM

Hi Randomdude,

Your a champion :) !! Thanks for looking the info up. Sorry you had a bad day the other day. Work can get to be a real drain on the whole system !

I hope my requests haven't been too much of a pain in the bum !

I dont want to over-do my welcome from you, but if I found a couple of others (the PSC's), would it be ok for you to look them up ? Thanks to you, I now have most of the ones around my area, there just might be an odd one that crops up here and there (like 11, when I was overlooking wollongong the other day, and 308 when I was in kangaloon)...

Anyway, thanks very much for your help so far, its much appreciated.

Eric TLD.

RandomDude

27-06-2007, 07:22 PM

All good mate,

sorry but i cant find 11 or 308 in those areas... my records might be out of date...

ill keep looking and let you know if i find them

lax2tlv

13-07-2007, 05:04 PM

[ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316201 ]

i KNOW THIS IS LONG BUT IT IS INTERESTING! JUST GET THROUGH IT!

ON 6 July 2007 I posted:

[I was driving home from work on Vanowen St from North Hollywood, an area which has had 3G coverage for quite a while, while watching some free MobiTV in the LA traffic. My eyes widened with excitement when the phone (running BLACK MAGIC LE) showed full HSDPA reception as a crossed Lindley Ave, then Reseda, then Tampa, and all the way to my place on Winnetka where the HSDPA was still on but at 2-3 bars of reception. HOWEVER, to my great dismay, as soon as I ended the data call, the same ol' "E" was right back up there... forcing WCDMA + going back to where I was apparently getting full 3G reception failed to pick up UMTS... Now, given what little knowledge I have + some educated guessing, I suspect one of the following scenarios as being the culprit of this disgusting event:

A. There could have simply been a glitch in the phone, where it showed the H and 3G symbols instead of the E; HOWEVER, the streaming video on MobiTV was significantly better than anything i've seen on EDGE. Maybe some caching may be responsible for this?

B. Newly activated UMTS towers were able to register my phone when it attempted to continue an existing HSDPA data call, but have yet to be instructed to register idle phones looking for signals.]

Today, after repeating the same process while using speed tests to verify HSDPA speeds, I contacted AT&T and again, luckily, got to someone who knew his sht. He went ahead and listed some UMTS tower locations in my area and along my route home from work (Vanowen St) but stated that the towers were set for PUBLIC activation on 2 August 2007. So theres it is, the official launch date for 3G accross the whole SFV is 8/2/07. NOW, as for me being able to connect to these "unactivated towers": the tech agreed with my theory that while the towers fail to register my phone from a reset and kick it off upon data disconnection, they ARE OBVIOUSLY ACTIVE because I am able to connect to them, but only when entering their range while on an ACTIVE HSDPA connection. So here are my questions for the COOKS/MODS/PROS:

1. Are you aware of what method these towers may be using to screen phones for "testing purposes" (IMEI maybe?)?

2. Is there any way to trick the tower into registering my phone without having to drive to an "active" 3G zone and back?

ANY FEEDBACK WILL REALLY BE APPRECIATED!!!

I would love to know if there is anything I could do with the Field Test program that could help you help me figure this out!!!! THANK YOU

DanD911Phx

28-07-2007, 07:34 PM

Cingular 8525
ROM 2.15.502.3 4/09/07
Radio 1.40.30.00
Protocol version 32.732.7020.16H
WM 5.1

FieldTest.exe is in the \Windows directory :cool: and you don't need (but can use) the *#*#346#*#* from FTM.

To make it easer to use, you can create a link to it so that it shows up in the Programs menu.

To do so from File Explorer

Locate the FieldTest.exe file in the \Windows directory
Right click the file and select Copy from the context menu
Navigate to the \Windows\Start Menu\Programs directory
Right click a blank area in the directory and select Paste Shortcut from the context menu.
Right click the new shortcut and select Rename from the context menu.
Rename it what you want, but I suggest FieldTest

Now you can make it even handier -- by mapping it to a Button. And if you have the pttfix software, you can even make it come up on the PTT button so that you quickly and easily get to it when you're in the middle of something else.

Now all I have to do is understand what the acronyms stand for and the implications of them. :)

harishkun

26-09-2007, 04:18 PM

Hi DanD911Phx,

Is there any way to dump the data received by FieldTest application to a file?

Or if you can suggest some way to open RIL Port (COM6) to get data..

Thanks

Curtosamba

03-03-2008, 03:18 AM

Hello Boys,

I've a Qtek A9100 the ROM XDA Mobile 6 Release 5 installed.

I Really need to run the FieldTest.exe because I work with GSm Engineering, and i can't do that yet.

I proceed with all steps,
1 - uncab the 000rilgsm.dll in my Laptop
2 - Renamed it to rilgsm.dll
3 - Copyed the rilgsm.dll to my QtekA9100 in the folder \Windows with Resco Pocket Explorer
4 - Make a Soft Reset

The Result:
The Phone didn`t connect with the GSM Network, and I have to rename the rilgsm.dll to rilgsm01.dll, make a soft reset again and it returns the normal.

But never i Can put the Fieldtest.exe functionally.

I Still have the fieldtest.exe icopyed n the Qtek.

Please Help me!

What`s the Wizard ROM that I`ve to install to turn the Fieldtest functnionally ?

Thanks!

b0ris747

08-03-2008, 04:36 PM

Hello Boys,

I've a Qtek A9100 the ROM XDA Mobile 6 Release 5 installed.
...
Please Help me!

What`s the Wizard ROM that I`ve to install to turn the Fieldtest functnionally ?

Thanks!

fieldtest is not compatible with 9100/Prophet/Artemis. For those devices you need to use GSMTestMode.exe

Loftus

15-03-2008, 01:35 AM

Has anyone had any success running FieldTest.exe with the HTC TyTN II? I understand it is not a Hermes (it's a Kaiser) but it also uses a newer version of the Qualcomm chipset, the MSM7200.

Curtosamba

09-04-2008, 02:18 AM

fieldtest is not compatible with 9100/Prophet/Artemis. For those devices you need to use GSMTestMode.exe

Ok man, but I can turn the GSMTestMode to decimal version?
I can only view with hexadecimal ?

Thanks!

erickkk

16-04-2008, 03:00 AM

Anyone know does it support manuel enter the ARFCN value to let me logon the defferent cell?

ruipanao

24-06-2008, 03:57 PM

I can anyone tell me if I install this version rom on a ETEN G500+, a do not "broke" my PDA, or in oyher words there are any especific rom for this PDA?

Thanks

RP

alvaro_unzueta

16-07-2008, 06:54 AM

Has anyone had any success running FieldTest.exe with the HTC TyTN II? I understand it is not a Hermes (it's a Kaiser) but it also uses a newer version of the Qualcomm chipset, the MSM7200.

Hi all, Great I found this forum, really full of usefull information.
One question, does anybody has success using the FieldTest on TyTN2?
Thanks in advance:)

ericdog

23-07-2008, 02:42 PM

Anyone know does it support manuel enter the ARFCN value to let me logon the defferent cell?

Hi erickkk,

No, you cant enter any ARFCN. All the data displayed in fieldtest is read-only, displayed for you to view network/phone parameters.

I hear there is a new version of fieldtest (2.15), but I cant seem to find where to download it. I have seen it in a ROM file, but I think it was WM6, so maybe fieldtest 2.15 is not compatible with WM5?

Fieldtest 157 is very good. It would be nice to see a new version that works like the celltrack program that runs on symbian phones :)

We'll just have to see what happens.

Regards,

TLD.