Who wants the real MSN Messenger for WM5/TyTN

[deep-blue]

After flicking around on google, i have found a personally tested method of getting msn messenger working in WM5.

It fully supports the rotation that occurs when you open the keyboard on the TyTN.

http://node13.org/pda/

Go here (my own site), and do the following:

1. Connect your WM5 device to your pc.

2. Run msn22.exe (Will installed the PPC2002 version of MSN Messenger)

3. Run msn23.exe (Will instal the PPC2003SE version with the latest updates)

4. Reset your device

Voila, you now have a nice working copy of MSN Messenger.

Enjoy!

[Moskus]

Just out of curiosity:
What's the difference between "MSN Messenger on Pocket PC" and "Pocket Messenger"?

[Prerna]

Thanks for that!

[paulclo]

After flicking around on google, i have found a personally tested method of getting msn messenger working in WM5.

It fully supports the rotation that occurs when you open the keyboard on the TyTN.

http://node13.org/pda/

Go here (my own site), and do the following:

1. Connect your WM5 device to your pc.

2. Run msn22.exe (Will installed the PPC2002 version of MSN Messenger)

3. Run msn23.exe (Will instal the PPC2003SE version with the latest updates)

4. Reset your device

Voila, you now have a nice working copy of MSN Messenger.

Enjoy!

For some reasons, every time I tried to run your msn23 from my computer (connected to the device of course), it showed the InstallShield 1645: and it stopped there. I have also tried msn22 and the result is the same. BTW, I have done the unlock CID already if it would matter at all.

Any suggestions?

Paul
Hermn 200
Rom Version1.20.161.5
ROM date: 06/06/06
Radio Version: 1.13.00.00
Protoco; Version: 32.49.7018.00W

[aquasesh]

I dont know what all those posts about MSN Live Messenger are about.
I have it for a while now and its works perfect. I sent it to some forum members via email and its works flawless for them too.

You just install it and log in...thats all...

[frustin]

Just out of curiosity:
What's the difference between "MSN Messenger on Pocket PC" and "Pocket Messenger"?

ditto that, what is the difference?

[acantril]

I dont know what all those posts about MSN Live Messenger are about.
I have it for a while now and its works perfect. I sent it to some forum members via email and its works flawless for them too.

You just install it and log in...thats all...


Any chance you can send it to me ?

[mikechannon]

Any chance you can send it to me ?

Downloads available here

http://ideas.live.com/


Mike

[aquasesh]

Downloads available here

http://ideas.live.com/


Mike

thanks mikechannon... you wont believe how many emails i got regarding MSN LM...lol

[mikechannon]

thanks mikechannon... you wont believe how many emails i got regarding MSN LM...lol

Yes, I don't know why Microsoft have it so obscurely referenced, not easy to track it down. By the way also works well for me too.

Mike

[gavinmoffitt]

Are you guys referring to the Live.Com Beta for Mobile download? Or am I missing the point totally?

Thanks!

[mikechannon]

Are you guys referring to the Live.Com Beta for Mobile download? Or am I missing the point totally?

Thanks!

Well now that's a tricky question... welllll ok yes we are, at least I am. The one that's like the old MSN for mobile but not quite if you know what I mean!! And the one that shows as Live.com on this link http://ideas.live.com/, In case there's confusion "MSN Messenger is now Windows Live Messenger" hence the use of the name Live.com.

Mike

[5n0rk]

you try this agilemessenger (http://www.agilemobile.com/get_latest.php?device=WMPPC)
in my tytn it works very well:
- he automatically rotates with the opening of the keyboard
- it notices all the emoticons
- it works with msn, icq, yaooh etc. accounts
- allows to make a photo with my TYTN and to send it
- and it also has the push to talk!!!
It's phenomenalanything
...else other than microsoft!!!:p
:) Enjoy:)

[mikechannon]

you try this agilemessenger (http://www.agilemobile.com/get_latest.php?device=WMPPC)
in my tytn it works very well:
- he automatically rotates with the opening of the keyboard
- it notices all the emoticons
- it works with msn, icq, yaooh etc. accounts
- allows to make a photo with my TYTN and to send it
- and it also has the push to talk!!!
It's phenomenalanything
...else other than microsoft!!!:p
:) Enjoy:)

Well now 5n0rk, I think I might just do that. Heard of it before but never thought it would inspire me, but from what you say it might be interesting

Mike

[5n0rk]

him, agile messenger is fabulous! to try for believing!

[simonw]

Is Agile Messenger really free? On their web site they only have 7 day trial versions after which you pay and through the nose...

http://billing.am-im.net/am/eur.php

Try not to get too hooked unless you want to be spending up big.

Regards

[Karzi]

Free on WM5 "for the moment"

As it is slightly buggey or at least was, seems much more stable these days.

[5n0rk]

Yes is Free!!!

[monty5k]

Where is it, it says that it's not available yet, the messenger.
Only windows live homepage.

Thank you.

[mikechannon]

Where is it, it says that it's not available yet, the messenger.
Only windows live homepage.

Thank you.

Which one are you referring to:

If it's Live messenger it's here

http://ideas.live.com

Mike

[szlevi]

Which one are you referring to:

If it's Live messenger it's here

http://ideas.live.com

Mike

There's no Live Messenger for mobile devices, man...

[mikechannon]

There's no Live Messenger for mobile devices, man...

Maybe we are talking at cross purposes, but I have Windows Live Messenger on my TyTn. or do you mean you cannot sign in?

Mike

[axiom]

He's right, there is no d/l link for Live Messenger Mobile.

[mikechannon]

He's right, there is no d/l link for Live Messenger Mobile.

If you actually want it working NOW, then you'll have to sign upto a participation testing account with Microsoft. Once in here you should be able to find it, it's been available since November 13th:

https://connect.microsoft.com/

Then you can add to last known Microsoft Stats from Testers:
Connect Stats
212,316 bugs submitted
26,693 suggestions submitted

Not just on Live Messenger Mobile you'll be pleased to hear.

Happy Days

Mike

[Magnus91]

Where, exactly, do you get live mobile messenger beta? I can't find, even though I am participating in the connect program.

[mikechannon]

Where, exactly, do you get live mobile messenger beta? I can't find, even though I am participating in the connect program.

You can sign in from your device using this link in your browser:

http://mobile.live.com/pocketpc/default.aspx?mlc=en-GB

Mike

[Applestar]

I am using it since a couple of weeks. Version 3 beta is very stable and easy to use.

Just one very important hint: There is one settings page at the first installation of AgileMEssenger that will ask you for all your messenger services credentials (gmail, ICQ, msn, aim, yahoo..) I did enter two wrong login informations. Well, I corrected them later on - but when I put AgileMessenger to automatic logon at startup it would always "forget" to login to the later corrected messenger services as well. I had to manually connect to them every time.

Solution: I just de-installed AM, installed it again and made sure EVERY messenger service login information was correct at the first time on the setting page. And voila: Automatic login for all messenger services worked perfectly. Now I just click on the AgileMessenger today plugin and it will connect to all service in the background.

Great tool.

But AFAIK its not free ... You have a personal code on the about screen which you will have to use to activate your version.

[Magnus91]

I sometimes use the live messenger beta. But it is webbased, is there a real program, or is this just the live messenger mobile?

[mrmrmrmr]

I also want to ask the same question.
is it a real program ?

mikechannon,
when I go to http://mobile.live.com/pocketpc/default.aspx?mlc=en-GB
on my WM5 device, I get following:
- Search
- Mail
- Spaces
- Live.com beta
- Local
- Sign-in

where is the live messenger ?

[Shamanix]

I have MSN Live beta and can post it here if it is legal to post.. Please advise ? :)

[mrmrmrmr]

if it is a working beta can you send it to me at:
zaknafeindourden (at) hotmail (dot) com

thank you...

[SparkS666]

I think the beta will not connect unless you have signed in the beta... Like the messenger 8.0 beta.

[silent_killa]

Whats so good about live messenger then? Doesnt Messenger inside pocket msn do the trick properly?

S.K.

[mrmrmrmr]

I applied for the beta but no response since yesterday.
I would like to try my chance with the software.
can anyone send it please ?

[Shamanix]

Whats so good about live messenger then? Doesnt Messenger inside pocket msn do the trick properly?

S.K.

It does the trick, but the new live messenger is way better looking, support emotions, nudges, personal pictures, ect ect..

I applied for the beta but no response since yesterday.
I would like to try my chance with the software.
can anyone send it please ?

Sent you the link via PM.. sorry you had to wait...

Enjoy ;)

[mrmrmrmr]

thank you ; I will try now. lets see if it works with a not beta-signed user.

[mrmrmrmr]

whoa :)
it's working.
btw, it's really nice. thank you...
however it made my device too slow.
and also, it added a lot of contacts to my "contacts" , how can I delete these ?

[Shamanix]

Yes.. it syncs your MSN contacts with contacts in your device and if you delete any of these contacts you will loose them from your MSN list..

So.. DO NOT delete any of these contacts if you are using MSN live on your device, if you decide to delete MSN live from your device then it is safe to delete those contacts from your device..

[mrmrmrmr]

ok, what if I delete the contact and add their msn address to the contact's real entry in my contact list ?

and, what does the following options do ?
sync;
1- contacts and messenger
2- e-mail

[Shamanix]

I donno what will happend if you delete msn addresses that live imported and add them to your contacts that you allready have.. I never tryed that, so if you are going to try it, let me know the results ;)

About options that you asked :

1. This options adds your msn contacts to your device contacts so you have them on your MSN list and you can recive messages from them in your MSN, if you turn that off, noone will be on your MSN live list and you won`t be able to recive msgs from them.

2. This options sync your MSN address email with your device, so all folders are created and you can recive and send emails from your device using your MSN live email address..

[mrmrmrmr]

thank you...
I deleted some contacts and added their IM addresses to my other contacts. the contacts didn't get deleted but I received these contacts from MSN next time I connected.
it's kind of annoying.
I don't want MSNonly contacts in my addressbook.
but this software is lovely.
voice clip and sending picture is very nice.
also the avatar screens are nice.

[4Site]

hey the new program sounds good currently i got agile which feels like msn lite as well as only being a 7 day trial and use the web based msn which is just plain tedious if someone would be so kind as to forward me a link or the program at

site4 at hotmail dot co dot uk

i'd appreciate it.

Thanks in advance

[simon_darley]

i have msn messenger live on my ppc for about 1 month now and think its great and works well consider it is beta, better than the previous anyway.

down side is the windows live bit that they throw in, but hey it works.

with the sync bit, hated having two. so i deleted the ones that were already on MSN, and added the IM and a second email address of the IM address into my contacts... now here is the trick

when in contacts, highlight your legitimate wanted contact, with the IM addresses and a second email address inserted. THEN use the menu command, add to Windows Live, and allow it to also add to Messenger.

This way, I deleted the old "MSN Contact", and updated my "Contact" with an MSN address and allowed now the two to synchronise.


If you want to add more, just put the MSN address in to the IM field and use the menu add to windows live. If you get an error, or it shows a card (similar to a small sim card) in your contact list rather than a Messenger "head" symbol then it syncrhonised the contact, but didnt add to messenger.

i usually found that this was cause they werent deleted from your contacts and your messenger system first. Delete them all from MSN, then re-add them all using your contacts menu system. Synchronised great, no duplication, and changes in one, changes in the other on next sync.


Took a while to find and use the menu system to add to windows live.

[Magnus91]

Hey, can you send it to me too: coldmagnus [at] hotmail [dot] com

That would be awsome. Was there a option, so the messenger contacts did not syncronise to the contacts I have on the tytn? And sounds great if it lets me use the e-mail-client of wm5 to send mails from hotmail.

Magnus

[leo666]

Can you sent live messenger beta to me kv.net(at)hotmail.com pleace?
I like too try it out. I don't have any messenger software now (can't find any for free)

[-wireless-]

Thanks.

Cheers

[-wireless-]

Hmmm it seems you have to use 3g for the live beta and you can't use wifi :( So if anyone has the original install file for msn could they please send it to me

Cheers

[mrmrmrmr]

-wireless- :
I can use wifi and gprs for new live messenger
why can't you ?
to go back to original pocket msn just uninstall live.

[WineCape]

Can someone be so kind enough to email me the latest beta of WLMM (aka Windows Live Messenger Mobile) to

WineCape@global.co.za

Much obliged in advance.

[4Site]

Hey just wondering if any one actually sent this to me my emails been acting up lately.

Would be happy if some one could resend it please

Thanks again

[mrmrmrmr]

for some reason I had to hard reset and then install everything back.
but now I have some weird issues with "windws live messenger":
- when I try to sign in it tries to connect GPRS, although wifi is connected to internet
- it tries to connect GPRS even if I exit from messenger
- I can't see all contacts online

why could that be ?

[Shamanix]

Well.. MSN Live is still in beta, so it has bugs..

We need to wait for final version... :(

[mrmrmrmr]

yes you are right but is this a known bug or is that only happening to me ?

[mrmrmrmr]

I found something related to this in the Actiğvesync application on Hermes.
It says that "your current scheduling for sync requires a Cellular data connection please configure a ..."
This warning came when I removed the GPRS connection from my internet settings.
So why does it require a cellular data connection ?
I don't think this is a Beta Live issue but a Windows Mobile issue.

[Shamanix]

No no.. it is MSN Live.. Sometimes it happends to me.. when I disconnect from internet, it connects back automaticly, even when MSN live is shut down..

That is knows bug with MSN Live beta, just soft reset your device and it should be back to normal..

Well.. to avoid this thing happenig, connect to internet first using PIE and when you get connection then connect with MSN Live, it works well that way..

[Applestar]

Well, I read a post about AgileMessenger sending passwords in plain text via http. So I just sniffed my network connection while connecting to all servers via AgileMessenger and extracted the protocol...

(NB: vxSniffer does the job on the TyTN, just make sure you soft-reset after installation and switch the device off/on before use. And well, it only sniffs the WiFi connection - not the GPRS one...)

There was NO password sent in plain text. You could clearly see the https connection that was used to send it via encrypted channels.

[mrmrmrmr]

hi,

Sometimes I can't see the contacts (none of them) online on mobile live messenger.
For example now I can't see them. do you know the reason for this ?
I know that there are at least 20 online contacts.

[wousser]

hi,

Sometimes I can't see the contacts (none of them) online on mobile live messenger.
For example now I can't see them. do you know the reason for this ?
I know that there are at least 20 online contacts.

same here..

[alluds]

hey could someone please send me the msn live for wm5.

sam _ pat297 (@) hotmail (dot) com.

Thanks alot :)

[alluds]

whoa :)
it's working.
btw, it's really nice. thank you...
however it made my device too slow.
and also, it added a lot of contacts to my "contacts" , how can I delete these ?

Hey mrmrmrmr
Could you please me a copy of msn live, i'd like to try it out as well ..
thanks ::)

sam _ pat297 (@) hotmail (dot) com

[Shamanix]

hi,

Sometimes I can't see the contacts (none of them) online on mobile live messenger.
For example now I can't see them. do you know the reason for this ?
I know that there are at least 20 online contacts.

Try reconnecting to MSN.. That sometimes happens to me too, I just disconnect from msn and the connect again and my contact then shows online..

Hope that helps.. ;)

[sugardad]

can anybody post me a link or just send me the msn live messenger for WM 5

[Shamanix]

Here is the link...

MSN LIVE !!!! :D (http://rapidshare.com/files/10171845/WindowsLive.PPC2005_ARM.CAB)

[sugardad]

Thanx a Lot me good friend!!!!!

[SparkS666]

Still waiting to accept my request :(

[Nicky]

Just wanted to say thanks for the link to the Live Messenger software ... I have installed it and it is working great :D. I like it a lot more than the previous PPC version, it is much more like the PC version now.

[jeRrRKKKK]

i can only connect if my phone is connected to my pc thru activesync
else on the 3G network or GPRS, an error message appears that says that my internet connection is lousy...

there was a problem signing you in to messenger. it may be the service or you may be in a place with bad reception. please try again later


whats wrong?

[sandstheman]

Installed worked fine, then rebooted phone and it wouldn't go past the Blue Windows Mobile splash screen no matter what.

Had to hard reset, so a warning for anyone else, you take the risk

[Gavin01]

does this work a lot better than the standard one as on my mda pro and my newer vario II the pre installed msn fails to sign in 90% of the time even with a good active connection

[Nicky]

does this work a lot better than the standard one as on my mda pro and my newer vario II the pre installed msn fails to sign in 90% of the time even with a good active connection

I can't say to be honest because I never had problems connecting with the previous version, it very rarely failed to connect. This version seems to be connecting fine as well. I don't think it is dependent on having a fast connection either because T-Mobile in my area haven't upgraded to 3G (they are apparently sorthing this out in June) so I am using the standard slow GPRS connection.

Sandstheman mentioned that he got stuck on the Windows splash screen following installing and rebooting, this happened to me too but with a little luck and patience (5 soft resets and a quick removal of the battery whilst it was loading up) I managed to get it up and running again and it has been okay since.

[mrmrmrmr]

any news about the final release ?

[hsrimo]

After flicking around on google, i have found a personally tested method of getting msn messenger working in WM5.

It fully supports the rotation that occurs when you open the keyboard on the TyTN.

http://node13.org/pda/

Go here (my own site), and do the following:

1. Connect your WM5 device to your pc.

2. Run msn22.exe (Will installed the PPC2002 version of MSN Messenger)

3. Run msn23.exe (Will instal the PPC2003SE version with the latest updates)

4. Reset your device

Voila, you now have a nice working copy of MSN Messenger.

Enjoy!


Installed and works. But i can't set sound notification for new msn messege and new contact online. The list at sound notification has not those items. how to do that? please advice

Thanks

[gthing]

Is this different/better than the pocket MSN app that comes on the Cingular 8525?

[Nicky]

Is this different/better than the pocket MSN app that comes on the Cingular 8525?

Personally, I prefer it to the standard Pocket MSN. The bits I like about it are that you can:-

1) See the photo of the contact (if they have uploaded one)
2) You can send files, pictures etc..
3) You can see emoticons
4) You can sign in as 'Offline' (sometimes useful if you want to see who is online before you log in :))

I am sure there are other improvements but it has been a while now since I used the old Pocket MSN so I can't remember what it did and did not do.

I guess it depends on what you like about messenger, if the above items are things you can take or leave, it probably isn't worth upgrading.

[jeRrRKKKK]

i guess i can never get to use this version as it will never connect via 3G and my LAN only works for a small area only :(

[Jin187]

Hi, please could someone send Live Messenger to me, j.f.x@ hotmail. com , Thanks a bunch:)

[mrmrmrmr]

does anyone have the final release of Live MEssenger mobile ?

[javaoverride2003]

yer has anyone got a like for any version beta of final

[fasso86]

Hi! You can find Windows Live Messenger Beta1 here:
- ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Universal/Tools_and_Programs/WindowsLive.PPC2005_ARM.CAB
- ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Hermes/WMXL_Support_Files/WMXL_Optional_Applications.zip

[mrmrmrmr]

Hi! You can find Windows Live Messenger Beta1 here:
- ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Universal/Tools_and_Programs/WindowsLive.PPC2005_ARM.CAB
- ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Hermes/WMXL_Support_Files/WMXL_Optional_Applications.zip


Thank you fasso86,
However we are not looking for the initial beta. It's already achievable.
We are looking for the final release (or at least a newer beta)

[agovinoveritas]

^^^ Yup. Since there are three version of messenger.

There is pocket messenger.
There is Live Messenger for mobile which can be accessed online.
And there is the one that I think everyone is having a problem with...
Windows Live and Windows Live Messenger for Pocket PC. Which is an actual *.cab file.

For most of us using the beta version of the later two, they stopped working as of yesterday or depending which part of the world you are then today.

The reason why I like the Windows Live is because you can set it up to have push email through your hotmail account. Which is really what I want.

[mrmrmrmr]

there should be a stable release. but where ?

[laaban]

Try this thread in the WM6 section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1198505&postcount=42

[mrmrmrmr]

thank you :)
great !

[Nigel Cone]

It says Please try again a few too many times for my liking...

[bddd]

thanx deep blue, you are a champion, thanx again for your help :)

[yhc1126]

Thank you!:) :) For your shares.