All About Blackberry on Universal

[Hang|man]

Ok since we have threads for everything else I decided to post this one about using your XDA Exec, Universal, Jasjar as a Blackberry device.

Please post everything you know about this topic under this thread so we don't have to search all over the forums for this info.

I currently have an O2 XDA Exec running a T-Mobile Rom, spec are as follows:
ROM Version: 1.20.32 WWE
ROM Date: 11/16/05
Radio Version: 1.06.00
Protocol Version: 42.40.P8
ExtROM version: 1.20.120 WWE
Blacberry Active Sync Desktop Version 2.1.0
Blackberry connect software 2.10

Mobile service Provider Cingular
SIM card is GSM GPRS 3G my blackberry service is BES Blackberry Enterprise server and we use Lotus Domino as the Exchange server or PUSH server.

This ROM is slow and not very stable and is not AKU2... What I am looking for is a New T-Mobile ROM that works with the Blackberry software or any other new rom (WWE) that will work with the BB software.
I have tried many different ROMs but the T-Mobile one works but as stated is weak and un stable.

[skywriter]

ok i'm dumb. i have a blackberry, and an XDA. i hate the blackberry, but the BES services are fine. how can i get the software to run my XDA as a blackberry? the BES server is owned/operated by my company.
thanks!

[Ferret-Simpson]

Flash it with the T-Mobile ROM apparently!

[skywriter]

Flash it with the T-Mobile ROM apparently!

i doubt it. blackberry only purports to offer the blackberry connect software for the XDA O2, not the UNIVERSAL. also it's only provided to carriers in the UK. hang|man is flying the US colors. also the software looks like it's provided as a layered application, not as a wholesale ROM.

our IT department only allows BES remote clients. if i could run the software on a PDA i would be happy. hopefully it's not the whole blackberry application stack, that's the part that's the most akward to work with. i would like it to utilize the poutlook email/calendar/contact applications.

[jaceuk]

nah tmob deffo has it on my old rom it had its own blackberry set up,110% sure

[skywriter]

nah tmob deffo has it on my old rom it had its own blackberry set up,110% sure

mm really? are any of the roms on the ftp the one with the software?

[RommelAcc]

I use the BlackBerry connect with a Qtek9000 with the latest official Qtek ROM. The blackberryconnect software (and the also needed desktop software to activate) can be downloaded from Vodafone in germany:
http://support.vodafone.de/index_l3_2z.html

It works great with my KPN (netherlands) BB UMTS simcard, I am using it now for a few weeks without any problems (Using BES4 with Exchange)

So the version offered on the site does work with AKU2 and seems to be operator independent!

btw:I am using the version offered for the VPA compact IV

[skywriter]

ooo! swell! i'l load it up tomorrow :) thanks! i hope it works :)

[Hang|man]

The ROM I posted in the original topic is a ship set from T Mobile, I have an O2 Exec and flshed it with the T Mobile rom and then used the Blackberry connect desktop sync and bb software for the MDA Vario, it works fine.
I use Cingular for my cell phone and blackberry. What I did was take my sim card out of the new 8720 BB and put it in my O2. Everything works fine with the software.
Only problem is the T Mobile ROM is not AKU2 and it is not the most stable ROM out there. The Radio is version 1.06 and seems to do okay in the US.

I did get Ivans new AKU3 beta 6 installed and the BB worked for about three emails then it just went into an eternal signal hunt and would not connect to the bb enterprize server again, I reflashed with the T-Mobile rom and I got everything back. There must be some CAB files in that ROM that allow the BB software to work better.

[monster]

I use the BlackBerry connect with a Qtek9000 with the latest official Qtek ROM.

Hi, are you using the aku2 Rom?
Thanks

[RommelAcc]

Yes,

At this moment I'am only using the blackberry Connect for receiving my e-mail.

My Calendar/ Contacts and Tasks are synced by using Exchange Server Sync.

So both technologies can coexist!

[monster]

Yes,

At this moment I'am only using the blackberry Connect for receiving my e-mail.

My Calendar/ Contacts and Tasks are synced by using Exchange Server Sync.

So both technologies can coexist!

Many thanks RommelAcc. Would you be kind enought to detail the steps to connect your universal to your exchange server through the Blackbery client? I've read elsewhere that you have to install / configure the applications in a specific order to get it to work. Many thanks for your help.

[monster]

Yes,

At this moment I'am only using the blackberry Connect for receiving my e-mail.

My Calendar/ Contacts and Tasks are synced by using Exchange Server Sync.

So both technologies can coexist!

Many thanks RommelAcc. Would you be kind enought to detail the steps to connect your universal to your exchange server through the Blackbery client? I've read elsewhere that you have to install / configure the applications in a specific order to get it to work. Many thanks for your help.

[RommelAcc]

Nothing special:

Install the BlackBerry Connect Desktop on a PC running ActiveSync (4.2 in my case) and Outlook. You need an online connection to you Exchange server (I don't know to configure with Notes).

Install de BlackBerry Connect software on your PDA. And follow the instructions on the screen.

Start the BB Connect Desktop and select 'connect' this will generate an encryption key that is transferred to the PocketPC.

(The BB Connect cannot be activated over the air, you will need a dektop with outlook connected online to your exchange server!)

[monster]

many thanks, for your instructions. will give it a shot tomorrow.
Cheers.

[skywriter]

i installed my blackberry sim in my universal and the black berry software software is working ok for my too. i can sync email and calendar from outlook/exchange. i use activesync for contacts. seems to work ok. although too things have been happening:
1) the PDA hangs constantly on a call to the blackberry software/mailbox after a power off. but during the time between a reset and the power off, it works ok. just can't ever turn it off :(
2) the blackberry software has to be restated manually after a reset.

is it my ROM, or what... don't know.

edit: ok still playing with it... i had it installed on the SD card when i had the hangs problems. i reinstalled it in main memory, and it seems to be ok. is this what everyone else does?

[RommelAcc]

I have it installed in memory, not on SD...
I had lots of problems with software installed in SD.

[skywriter]

ok here's a probably dumb question. how co i configure a new internet connection to use the SIM card? i had internet2.voicestream.com, somehow i think this changes to something else, but i don't know what it is. i tried blackberry.voicestream.com, and internet3.voicestream.com but they don't work either. do i need a seperate data plan on this SIM too? odd, how the blackberry browser worked on the BB7390 then.

edit: when i try to add a different network setting and it's connecting (then failing) i see a 'blackberry' connection trying to reconnect too, but there is no connection setting for it.

do other people have this problem? or am i missing a setting, or do i need another data plan?

edit2: weird my blackberry mailbox is inaccessible. it's on the today screen, but inbox doesn't see it.

[baudy2]

i installed my blackberry sim in my universal and the black berry software software is working ok for my too. i can sync email and calendar from outlook/exchange. i use activesync for contacts. seems to work ok. although too things have been happening:
1) the PDA hangs constantly on a call to the blackberry software/mailbox after a power off. but during the time between a reset and the power off, it works ok. just can't ever turn it off :(
2) the blackberry software has to be restated manually after a reset.

is it my ROM, or what... don't know.

edit: ok still playing with it... i had it installed on the SD card when i had the hangs problems. i reinstalled it in main memory, and it seems to be ok. is this what everyone else does?

I had the same experience with SD installation. After reinstall onto Main me everything works fine except the fact that sometime the messenger does not see the BlackBerry folders. Shitty ! When i've created another email dummy account the BB folders reappears for 3-4 hours and then dissappeared again. After i removed the dummy account the BB folders appeared again, but... again only foor 4-5 hours. Donnot how to deal with it.

Anybody can help ?

[skywriter]

I had the same experience with SD installation. After reinstall onto Main me everything works fine except the fact that sometime the messenger does not see the BlackBerry folders. Shitty ! When i've created another email dummy account the BB folders reappears for 3-4 hours and then dissappeared again. After i removed the dummy account the BB folders appeared again, but... again only foor 4-5 hours. Donnot how to deal with it.

Anybody can help ?

i have missing BB folder too.

i setup a wap.voicestream.com connection, and all my net apss seem to work now. what is the right thing to do?

edit: one more weirdness. i got a phone call from t-mobile when they add my voice plan. after this the BB application complained that it was 'block - radio in use' until i reset it. (the restart on reset problem seems to be gone, maybe that was from installing on the SD card)

[skywriter]

cross coupling threads so we don't loose anybody :)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=59768

[Hang|man]

Ok I built up a file for installing all of this on an O2 Exec, it has the newest O2 ROM and the BB software, I did this for my boss so I can upload it to the ftp and you all can get it. The files are here Index of ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Universal/O2BB

So if we have learned that the BB software works on the QTEK and now I have been able to get it to work on my XDA Exec then we have two AKU2 ROMs that are working with the BB Connect from Vodaphone

This version of BB Connect is not laden with T-Mobile Branding and seems to work 100% better than the TMOB crap plus we are not stuck to an old outdated pre AKU2 TMOB ROM!

[skywriter]

day 2 of BB connect and no problems other than an occassional 'blocked - radio in use' (anyone know what causes this? a reset will unblock it, but that's extreme, maybe toggling the radio on/off...). i do wish the reception was as good on the XDA as it is on my BB7290, oh well!

[Hang|man]

day 2 of BB connect and no problems other than an occassional 'blocked - radio in use' (anyone know what causes this? a reset will unblock it, but that's extreme, maybe toggling the radio on/off...). i do wish the reception was as good on the XDA as it is on my BB7290, oh well!
I had the same problem so I started playing around, I took the QTEK radio 1.11.00 and loaded it the signal strenght and reliability improved greatly and the BB has stopped searching all the time.

I get 4 full bars almost constantly and thats good for where I live up in the mountans.....

[Hang|man]

My current specs are below:

O2 AKU2 ROM v1.32.162
ROM version 1.30.107
ROM Date: 04/11/06
Radio Version: 1.11.00
Protocol Version: 42.45.P8
ExtROM: 1.30.162

Blackberry Connect v2.1.2.16 Pocket PC
Blackberry Desktop Sync v2.1.1.9

[skywriter]

I had the same problem so I started playing around, I took the QTEK radio 1.11.00 and loaded it the signal strenght and reliability improved greatly and the BB has stopped searching all the time.

I get 4 full bars almost constantly and thats good for where I live up in the mountans.....

hrm, i had read flakey things about radio 1.11. but that might be a good reason to try an AKU2 ROM while i don't have much loaded on it that i can't redo it in an hour.

[Hang|man]

I tried the 1.11.00 radio on a pre AKU2 ROM (TMOB) and it was really flakey so I went back to the 1.06.00 radio, of course I was running the crappy TMOB 1.20.32 ROM so after I went to AKU2 and found the Vodaphone BB Software I decided to try the 1.11.00 radio again and to my surprize it works very well.

I did try out Ivans AKU3.2 Beta 7 with the BB connect software but it doesn't work no matter what radio you load. Now that I have found the best soloution for myself I will build my programs up on this current install.
Remeber though the different radio versions have something to do with what type of frequency your service provider uses, I think the 1.11.00 is 3GPRS so it should work worldwide

[skywriter]

Remeber though the different radio versions have something to do with what type of frequency your service provider uses, I think the 1.11.00 is 3GPRS so it should work worldwide

ah, true enough. my t-mobile service uses 1900mhz. i'm getting ready to install the O2BB build you did.


but mtty doesn't see my USB port today... blah computers...
blah, reboot still the same. god this stuff it torturous.

[Hang|man]

eDon't forget to put the 1.11.00 radio file in before you flash!

[skywriter]

eDon't forget to put the 1.11.00 radio file in before you flash!

the only 1.11 radio i found is this one:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Universal/Radio/Dopod_900_RadioROM_1.11.00.zip

is that the one you used?

[tonyb15re]

just done the complete update all worked well, then tried to pair with my stereo headphones, I forgot that the O2 ROM doesnt support A2DP, what a crock, now doing update to QTEK rom..

Upside is BB software looks a lot better than the TMob stuff I've been running, bit confusing having the icon in the bottom tray instead of the top though..

[skywriter]

just done the complete update all worked well, then tried to pair with my stereo headphones, I forgot that the O2 ROM doesnt support A2DP, what a crock, now doing update to QTEK rom..

Upside is BB software looks a lot better than the TMob stuff I've been running, bit confusing having the icon in the bottom tray instead of the top though..

ugg me too. but now i'll wait for too see what 1.11 radio will do for me. so far in my office i don't have any more bars than i did before. but install is pretty quick now. which QTEK rom file are you using? then i can pick the same.

[Hang|man]

I think you might be able to install the A2DP cab from Ivans AKU3???
I don't have a stereo headset so it doesn't bother me not to have it....

Post up the QTEK ROM if you would be so kind

[skywriter]

I think you might be able to install the A2DP cab from Ivans AKU3???
I don't have a stereo headset so it doesn't bother me not to have it....

Post up the QTEK ROM if you would be so kind

radio 1.13 is out too :)

or it was... now i can't find it!

[Hang|man]

What ROM has the 1.13 radio?

[skywriter]

What ROM has the 1.13 radio?

there was a post about a a new Orange ROM with 1.13... but i can't find it now. weird.

edit: here it is. must have been blind.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=60965

whichever radio it is... i sure would like to get A2DP support somehow. maybe that QTEK rom (which ever one it is)

[Hang|man]

I just got the QTEK and Orange roms will pick them apart and see whats the skinny on them

[skywriter]

when i try to upgrade with the QTEK ROM i get:


ERROR 150: ROM UPGRADE UTILITY ERROR

This ROM Upgrade Utility does not design for your device.
Please get proper ROM Upgrade Utility and try again!

the ROM is: UNI_QTEK_13077_176_10900_WWE.exe
and I used the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe from the O2 files you uploaded.

this is just not my week!

[Hang|man]

Sometimes you have to use the MAupgradenoid.exe twice

[skywriter]

Sometimes you have to use the MAupgradenoid.exe twice

in a row? i spent all day getting the same error :)

just tried it three times in a row, no luck. also on different computer, with differnt ROM. so, which ROM was this built from? have you tried to load it yourself, and reload something else?

naturally there's no mention of error 105 anywhere here.

[Hang|man]

I still have the O2BB stuff on my Exec, all I did was extract the 1.13.00 radio from the new Orange MV5000 rom and reflashed my Exec with the radio rom.
This radio rom seems to be no less than the 1.11.00 radio and maybe even a bit better. I will do a Sprite Back up of my current install and then load up the full Orange rom and add BB tonight.

if you want to IM me I am on Windows Live Messenger ID agilland@hotmail.com

[skywriter]

ok fixed the error 150. i had to hard reset. now i have the QTEK ROM and the 1.13 RADIO installed.

now to get those bluetooth headphones!!!

[Hang|man]

Ok the only good thing about the Orange ROM is the 1.13 radio, I loaded it up and the BB connect software and it does not work....

Going to try some things tonight with Ivans AKU3 B8 and maybe the QTEK ROM.
Skywriter do you have the version of QTEK rom you used?
Version number and date if possible... Thanks

[skywriter]

Ok the only good thing about the Orange ROM is the 1.13 radio, I loaded it up and the BB connect software and it does not work....

Going to try some things tonight with Ivans AKU3 B8 and maybe the QTEK ROM.
Skywriter do you have the version of QTEK rom you used?
Version number and date if possible... Thanks

Yep, i downloaded UNI_QTEK_13077_176_10900_WWE.exe (02/20/06) then replaced radio_.nfb with the 1.13 Radio ROM from the latest
Orange ROM. seems to work ok. i haven't been in radio range yet. my house is a deadspot. tomorrow i'll get BB connect running. AKU3 would be intersting... but it's such a moving target :) i ordered my bluetooth headphones already (itech bluepro's), so i have to have A2DP now! :)

edit: Man i am so glad to be off that email redirector treadmill. they all seem to have either stopped selling to endusers, targeting carriers. or the they need to be managed by IT people because they problems require systems knowledge. i'm so glad to have BES without the blackberry. too bad contacts and tasks aren't synced. but i'm not getting greedy email and calender is all i really need.

[Hang|man]

Yea I hear ya, try the lookup feature in the BB panel, it works great! That is my hard test to see if the BB is really working, if I can do a lookup and find my own email address then the BB is working....

So with this ROM (QTEK) the stereo Headset will work??

[Hang|man]

Skywriter, when I install that ROM it say's I have obtained it illeagaly and then goes into a rest mode....
Any ideas on how to override??

[skywriter]

Skywriter, when I install that ROM it say's I have obtained it illeagaly and then goes into a rest mode....
Any ideas on how to override??

with all the wierd things, i'm not suprised. this has to be one of the most flakiest machines to update i've ever seen.

a good hard reset seems to solve lots of problems. i got Sbp Backup before i did it to fix my ERROR 150. just in case it didn't work and i had to end up reloading the working configuration. i could save an hour or so.

when i finally had a sucessful install i was flashing with the 1.13 ROM and the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe program from your O2 ROM. i used the bootloader upgrade method. do you get the error after it goes out for couple of minutes to see what the current ROM is then asks you in you want to upgrade, or the first dialog?

can we use the Orange ROM? that might be best if they have A2DP.

[Hang|man]

I flash the QTEK rom, no problem, using the MAupgradenoid, I reset the device and it goes into the setup mode no problem it gets all the way through and just before it resets itself it tells me I have obtained the Rom illeagally and then it resets and starts the process all over again.

There must be something in the ROM that looks for a device type or signature??

We can't use the Orange ROM, the BB software doesn't work with it.
I think we are going to have to ask for help in getting the A2DP working with the O2 rom

[skywriter]

it tells me I have obtained the Rom illeagally and then it resets and starts the process all over again.

then that's just after the ext rom cabs install. i wonder if it's clearvue pdf that's the only bundled app in the set that i know of. i-mate has clearvue pdf and skype, i haven't had a problem running either of those. i have the t-mobile branded phone that i bought from china, it was in a GR kit with WWE install of O2. i haven't seen that problem before.

what is the exact text of the error for searching?

[tonyb15re]

I downgradede to the latest official QTEK rom e.g. older file versions than those in O2 ROM, all works well now, I stuck with the 1.09 radio rom as I wasnt sure whether the 1.11 has a direct affect on A2DP, the Current QTEK ROM which I have is 1.30.77 with Radio 1.09 and EXT rom 1.30.176.

BB works well although I have had a couple of connectivity issues but that could be down to week UMTS signal.

A2DP works better than the TMobile verison I had previously, e.g. headset controls all work.

Downside is I have to delete and repair the headset before I use it, for some reason if I try to connect to Media Player after switching the headset on the track seems to jerk back and forward. I can live with this as the main use of the device is business and BB, thanks for this info guys, I hated the style of the Tmob ROM, Gay Pink is not for me :wink: I now have a decent Phone Skin etc.

[skywriter]

everything is working now. but when i went to reload the BB connect client software the .exe wouldn't execute. it would just popup for a millisecond. so, i had to load it from another computer. in the process i captured the .cab file. so, i'll keep a copy of this on my SD card for later.

other than that latest QTEK with radio 1.13 (freom orange) is working with BB connect software. now to play with it all day. yay!

[FOSA]

Sorry, do you mean BB cannot receive email over the air ie. must it connect to the desktop for receiving email?

Thanks :roll:

[skywriter]

Sorry, do you mean BB cannot receive email over the air ie. must it connect to the desktop for receiving email?

Thanks :roll:

no, BB works over the air with GPRS. my problem was the installation .exe didn't work - so i had to use a .cab to reload the client software.

when you install the software, you have to be connected to the desktop with the exchange server/outlook access to generate the key. after that you don't need it for email and calendar unless something goes wrong.

[cvdbl]

What data connection are you guys using for this? Are you using your standard GPRS settings as data connection or did you have to set up a separate connectio0n for this.

I followed all the steps listed above, but my device always reports "not connected" in the BB connect applet. Though I can send/receive regular email (pop/smtp) and can access the web.

Setup:
T-Mobile MDA
2.26 TMO rom
wap.voicestream.com as APN for GPRS

thanks

C.

[skywriter]

i've had three ROMs, all use the 'blackberry' connection the BB connect sets up. thsi connection does not appear in the connection settings.

what ROM is 2.26? i think someone with a t-mobile rom had no luck in this thread. you might try a a different rom. the three i listed all work and are on the ftp.

[Hang|man]

For the sake of clarity:
BB connect v2.1.1 that works with pre AKU2 roms (I think only the UK 1.2o.34 and the German 1.20.32) This software was originally built for the MDA Vario from T Moblie.
Both of those ROMs are very bad and un stable and it takes quite allot of work to get the BB Connect software to work on them, the radio's up to v 1.06.00 are the only ones that do work with those roms.

Now a few of the fella's in this thread have helped and found that with the Vodaphone BB Connect software v2.1.1.19 work with the Latest O2 rom and the Latest QTEK Rom that are AKU2. The QTEK is also A2DP which means you can use Stereo Bluetooth headsets. These roms can use any radio version so you have a wider range of radio's to choose from. The Orange MV5000 ROM has radio v1.13.00 I personally have used radio 1.11.00 and 1.13.00 and not found too much of a difference but you have to understand that the radio dictates what type of frequency you get. 3GPRS is 800 to 1900 MGHz GPRS is 1800 to 1900 MGHz so you need to know what Frequency your service provider uses. Most New Phones use 3GPRS.

I have also tried Ivans AKU3 Beta 8 but I keep getting an sddeamon error message during setup.... Have to look into that one.

Field Testing today with my O2 Rom with BB connect and radio 1.11.00 was excellent, I recieved every mail that was sent to me and my signal strength compaired to my Razor phone was about the same on my O2 Exec. The Vodaphone BB connect software not only works better than the T Mobile version it also has no branding and is easier to set up.

For those of you reading this thread you should know that to use this software you should have a Blackberry Enterprize Service running on your companies Network. As far as I know this program does not work like T Mobiles Instant E-mail BB connect or at least I have not seen that option. My Company uses BES running on a Lotus Domino server but the help file says it can be used with Microsoft Exchange server too.

[Hang|man]

Anyone who is using Ivans AKU3 and trying to work out the Blackberry usage with it please post your findings in this thread. This will help keep the information on the same page and we will not bother the guy's over in the AKU3 Thread. maybe if we have something posative to add to thier thread but for now lets work it out here.

I personally have not yet gotten it to work.... but still trying...

[skywriter]

additionally:

Now a few of the fella's in this thread have helped and found that with the Vodaphone BB Connect software v2.1.1.19 work with the Latest O2 rom and the Latest QTEK Rom that are AKU2.


Latest I-mate works fine too.
for prosperity, i've had these ROM's working:
I-mate ROM 1.30.76 WWE, Radio 1.09.00, EXT 1.30.164 WWE
O2 ROM 1.30.177 WWE, Radio 1.11.00, EXT 1.30.162 WWE
QTEK ROM 1.30.77 WWE, Radio 1.13.00, EXT 1.30.176 WWE

My Company uses BES running on a Lotus Domino server but the help file says it can be used with Microsoft Exchange server too.

I used Microsoft Exchange server. works fine.

[Hang|man]

additionally:

Now a few of the fella's in this thread have helped and found that with the Vodaphone BB Connect software v2.1.1.19 work with the Latest O2 rom and the Latest QTEK Rom that are AKU2.


Latest I-mate works fine too.
for prosperity, i've had these ROM's working:
I-mate ROM 1.30.76 WWE, Radio 1.09.00, EXT 1.30.164 WWE
O2 ROM 1.30.177 WWE, Radio 1.11.00, EXT 1.30.162 WWE
QTEK ROM 1.30.77 WWE, Radio 1.13.00, EXT 1.30.176 WWE

My Company uses BES running on a Lotus Domino server but the help file says it can be used with Microsoft Exchange server too.

I used Microsoft Exchange server. works fine.
Sky what version of Bootloader do you have?

I have 1.1 I have heard of thoers having 1.2?? If so where do you get that from?
This might be my problem with the QTEK rom

[skywriter]

Sky what version of Bootloader do you have?

I have 1.1 I have heard of thoers having 1.2?? If so where do you get that from?
This might be my problem with the QTEK rom


the application that comes up when you push "power+light+reset"? it's USB V1.00.

the BlackBerry apps are:
ActiveSyncInstaller2.1.1.9
BBConnect_PocketPC_BB_2.1.2.16 (Transport Version 2.1.0.63/System Version 189.118.59.239)

the full 'device information':
ROM Version 1.30.77 WWE
ROM Date 02/20/06
Radio Version 1.13.00
Protocol Version 42.47.P8
ExtROM Version 1.30.176 WWE

Some Observations that might narrow the field:
0) i use one of the ROM i listed, and my carrier is T-mobile.
1) From a bare ROM, I don't need the configure any data connections in start->settings->connections->connections (or any of those settings) to get the configuration that the BB connect uses (BlackBerry)
2) that connection in 1 above, isn't accessable in connections, or anywhere.
3) My SIM card was ordered by a t-mobile rep for me for BB7290. i used it with that until i got the UNI and the BB connectprogram, then i asked for a voice plan (the BB connect worked before the voice plan as well).
4) to get any internet connections (i don't use work connections) I had to configure a connection with an APN of WAP.VOICESTREAM.COM in internet connections.
5) if the 'WAP' connection is using the GRPS modem, then BB connect is block ("Blocked - radio in use").
6) using the Voice/GSM might cause 5 above as well (i don't use the phone often).
7) using a browser will cause 6 above
8) a automatic mail app might cause 6 above
9) acts of God have prevented use of the the BB connect program. in fact may prevent use of any program :)
10) YMMV

But I think for people that are using the same BES Server; if the hardware is the same (Universal), and the ROM Stack is the same, the data connection is the same, then the only thing left is the the application stack, and the way they are using it that is the problem. I've stripped mine down to the ROM and the BlackBerry Programs. Do that with one of the ROMs I listed and see if it work (it should). Then layer the APPS on top and check it out.

[FOSA]

Can I install BB client on the SD card because I do not have enough main memory during installation?

Thanks

[skywriter]

Can I install BB client on the SD card because I do not have enough main memory during installation?
Thanks

you can extract the CAB file from the installation folder when it's running then put it in on your SD card and run it from there.

but you can't install the applicatoin on the SD car, it will hang the device and make it unstable.

[Hang|man]

Ok Sky when you say just teh bare ROM are you talking only the nk.nbf file and the radio?

[skywriter]

Ok Sky when you say just teh bare ROM are you talking only the nk.nbf file and the radio?

ah good question. i meant from a fresh install of nk.nbf, radio_.nbf, and ms_.nbf. i didn't need to configure any connection profiles. BB connect made it's own.

[Hang|man]

Ok Kewl, I am still wondering why I get the message "You have obtained this ROM Illeagally" When I try the QTEK ROM?? Anyone else ver see this?

Sky, the difference between your setup and mine is only the type of BB server, You use MS Exchange and I use BES but they operate the same way.

Our Phones are the same so I wonder why I am not able to use the QTEK ROMS???
I'm going to download the exact same roms you have in your sig and try them out...

[skywriter]

Sky, the difference between your setup and mine is only the type of BB server, You use MS Exchange and I use BES but they operate the same way.
yes. i was wondering what was wrong with cvdb's setup, as we use the same BES at work. yet he can't get it BB working with his t-mobile ROM
Our Phones are the same so I wonder why I am not able to use the QTEK ROMS???
I'm going to download the exact same roms you have in your sig and try them out...
i can't find a mention of illegal ROM's anywhere very strange. that's a new one on me.

[Hang|man]

I am using this QTEK ROM
UNI_QTEK_WWE_13077_130176_10900_WWE_Ship_GR2.0.1
When I use this ROM and get through the setup it tells me I have Obtained this rom ilegally and then it reboots and starts the setup process all over again. Should I be Using the UNI_QTEK_13077_176_10900_WWE_Ship.exe ROM? Is this rom A2DP?

[Hang|man]

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Subject: Illegally Obtained ROM Image Error
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I installed the UNI_QTEK_WWE_13077_130176_10900_WWE_Ship.exe image onto my Jasjar. The image appeared to load correctly, but on reboot, the unit displays an "Illegally Obtained ROM" error, then reboots...strange
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46401&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=qtek&start=125

[skywriter]

I am using this QTEK ROM
UNI_QTEK_WWE_13077_130176_10900_WWE_Ship_GR2.0.1
When I use this ROM and get through the setup it tells me I have Obtained this rom ilegally and then it reboots and starts the setup process all over again. Should I be Using the UNI_QTEK_13077_176_10900_WWE_Ship.exe ROM? Is this rom A2DP?

GR huh? well i always use WWE. this is the one i selected to install:

UNI_QTEK_13077_176_10900_WWE.exe

as far as i know the QTEK's are A2DP. i'll find out when i get my bluetoth headphone sometime this week. i don't know what the 'Ship' variation is.

i got my MDA off ebay from a guy that shipped them out of china. i got a t-mobile branded MDA with O2 WWE loaded. the kit seemed to be a german one though, and the packagine was in german, and the AC adapter was a euro with a domestic adapter. the manual was english though :)

i though the 'MaUpgradeUt_noID' loader was to get around country codes and stuff. but you're bombing out after the EXT ROM CAB's unpackage. i thought the noID program was just to get by the bootloader ID check.

[Hang|man]

Yes yo are right, I bought my O2 Exedc from China too off of Ebay but it came stock with O2 ROM, it was never opened. The way you can tell if a rom is A2DP is you look in the programs folder and see if there is an ICON that say's Bluetooth Headset. I have not found any yet outside of Ivans ROMs

I can use a German ROM if I have to my wife is German and I speak it fluently but I prefer English roms.

[Hang|man]

Ok I found the Imate ROM I was looking for, will try it and post up the results.
this is for sure and A2DP ROM.

[skywriter]

The way you can tell if a rom is A2DP is you look in the programs folder and see if there is an ICON that say's Bluetooth Headset. I have not found any yet outside of Ivans ROMs


hmm, i don't have this ICON either. time to search the forums again...


edit: says - latest QTEK, and i-tech bluepro headphones. should work.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53431

also mentions QTEK dev-id and country-id problems. but not illegal stuff.

tonyb15re also posted in this thread that the QTEK ROM versions match the one i downloaded for A3DP support. hopefully it's the same country ROM :)

I downgradede to the latest official QTEK rom e.g. older file versions than those in O2 ROM, all works well now, I stuck with the 1.09 radio rom as I wasnt sure whether the 1.11 has a direct affect on A2DP, the Current QTEK ROM which I have is 1.30.77 with Radio 1.09 and EXT rom 1.30.176.

BB works well although I have had a couple of connectivity issues but that could be down to week UMTS signal.

A2DP works better than the TMobile verison I had previously, e.g. headset controls all work.

Downside is I have to delete and repair the headset before I use it, for some reason if I try to connect to Media Player after switching the headset on the track seems to jerk back and forward. I can live with this as the main use of the device is business and BB, thanks for this info guys, I hated the style of the Tmob ROM, Gay Pink is not for me :wink: I now have a decent Phone Skin etc.

[tonyb15re]

My ROM has been pretty stable for the past couple of days, the BB has decided to disable itself a few times when it cannot get a connection, the only way to fire it back up has been a soft reset.

The A2DP works ok but as I mentioned with the headset I have I need to re-pair every time I want to use it due to the audio going jerky when the headset is switched on normally.

The Headset I have is the Samsung SBH-100, coming down in price now http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/8832.htm

[skywriter]

My ROM has been pretty stable for the past couple of days, the BB has decided to disable itself a few times when it cannot get a connection, the only way to fire it back up has been a soft reset.

when it happens look in the blackberry connect client status page see if the 'service' field is 'block - radio in use'. this seems to mean something was using the gprs radio long enough for blackberry connect to give up on it. usually you can press [reset] a few times and it comes back. a softreset does it too.

[Hang|man]

I guess I was wrong about the A2DP roms showing the Bluetooth Icon, it seems that only Ivans rom does that. If anyone has a stereo headset could you try the O2 rom and see if it works?? I was starting to think that the A2DP roms were messing with the BB software but it may be a simple issue of CAB files that could be sorted out and loaded into any particular A2DP rom.
Right now I have of course the O2 Rom (Newest) , the Vodaphone German, Imate Jasjar and the QTEK roms that are A2dp working with my BB BES software. Only problem I have is no Headset to try them out with....
Going to order one but I need to research which one is best...

[msahni]

Hi there,

I am a novice and need help. I have used the blackberry client on my MDA Pro and used my Gmail address as the incoming address. It works fine till the time the phone is on. Once the phone goes off the blackberry client just disappears form the status bar below and then only a soft reset will get the blackberry client to allow me to restart it. Also the blackberry email folder just keeps coming and going on its own. So i have to constantly reset the phone to get my emails as the blackberry client just hangs up or disappears suddenly when the phone powers off.

Rom 1.30.114 WWE
Radio 1.10.03
Ext Rom 1.30.232
Date 13/04/2006

Could you please help me out with this one as I need the blackberry service for my email. I have Spb Diary + Spb Pocket Plus installed and can access the mails on the diary screen but there is no folder for the blackberry emails. When I add a new email account then it appears for some time and then disappears after a few hours. Also the blackberry connect icon disappears after the phone powers off and on or when the back light times out and goes off putting the phone into ?standby mode.

Thanks for all the help
msahni

[skywriter]

msahni the problems are similar to many mentioned here:

1) disappearing folders every hour or so, reappear where mail account deleted or remade - this was posted on the thread, no solution found yet. your email account (gmail) is interesting. are you using something like the blackberry internet product? i am using blackberry enterprise. this might be the difference. i've tried three ROMS and none of them has had this problem.

2) service stops when phone radio in use, doesn't restart afterward. has to have a soft reset to start it - i have a similar problem, but i can use the status->restart to get it to go most of the time, else it requires a soft reset as well. i only use the phone once or twice a week so it's not a big deal to me. my MDA is a PDA first, phone second.

3) client software disappears when MDA is put in different power states - this is similar to the behavior i had when i installed the BB connect software on SD flash. if this is so, then please remove it, and reinstall on main memory. it's extremely flakey on SD. if this is the case it is probably what is wrong with most of your problems.

can you please verify the your product is blackberry internet? i would like to try the gmail problem, but i don't know how to get gmail to work with my SIM, or even if it's possible. my SIM was configured by my company. i can't change it :) or even look at it!
------------------------------------------
edit:looks like i can't use gmail. i don't have a blackberry internet account. they don't have them on blackberry enterprise product, you deal with your own IT people. they set the SIM and BES service up when i had the BB7290. i just moved my SIM over to the new handheld.
re: blackberry internet

Log in to your BlackBerry Internet Service account.
Click 'Profile' along the top of the 'Home Page.'
Click 'other email accounts' in the 'Email Accounts' section of your profile.
Click 'Add Account.'
Enter the information for your Gmail account.
Email Address: Enter your full Gmail email address (including [email address]').
User Name: Enter your Gmail username (including [email address]').
Password: Enter your Gmail password.
Re-enter password: Re-enter your Gmail password.

Click 'Submit.'
If your BlackBerry account was successfully configured, you'll see the
BlackBerry 'Email Accounts' page. You're finished!


If you receive the message, 'We were unable to configure this mailbox.
Please tell us how you access this email account,' verify that you
clicked 'Save Changes' after enabling POP in Gmail.


If you don't click 'Save Changes' when you enable POP in Gmail,
BlackBerry Internet Service can't access your Gmail account. Once
you've enabled POP in Gmail, add the account in BlackBerry Internet
Service again.

[FOSA]

Hi!

I just subscribed to my telco for BB service in my country and got it connected with an IP address

However, I could not register. Do I need to? I could not setup my email account since the Email Setup tab is grayed out too.

Under Options tab I can see the word Blackberry is grayed out under Connection

Any help? Thanks


Thanks

[FOSA]

Ooooops.....sorry

Just managed to setup my email since its no longer grayed out but takes a long time to connect to to BB site to create new account

:oops:

[Hang|man]

To understand what type of service you have is key, there are currently two ways to use the Blackberry connect software we have.
1. With Microsoft Exchange Server (Push)
2. Blackberry Enterprise Server (Lotus Domino (Push)

Each service has it's own way of setting up the client.
Since Skywriter uses MS Exchange he should be the best source for asking those related questions.

Since Hang|Man uses Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES) Lotus he should be the best source for that service and related questions.

Example: When I install my client I go through different steps than Skywriter, I load up the BB Connect Active Sync Desktop application and then I install the BB Connect for Pocket PC application. Then I start my VPN connection to my Companies Network, then I start my Desktop Sync program for BB Connect and it looks for my Lotus Log in information...
Once I type in my password it connects to the Lotus server for the information it needs to setup or send to my device. This is the configuration information the device uses to get and send mail and also sync my calandar if I have that selected.
After all is synced I disconnect my device from the USB cable and then I do a lookup for any known name in my service book, this tells me that the service is running and connected. once the lookup finds the name I looked for then I can use the BB service without a problem.

Also when installing the software to your device you should always install it in the main memory and NOT the storrage card, this software has certain registry entries that when istalled on the storrage card cannot be written to the reg. ergo you must install it to the main mem to be stable and function properly.

[FOSA]

Ha! Ha!

I'm able to use BB service on my QTEK 9000 with AKU2 ROM and BB client downloaded from Vodafone site

:lol:

[msahni]

Hi

The blackberry account belongs to my brothers office and company which i was testing.

I have got the blackberry to actually fetch emails from both yahoo (normal http account not purchased pop) as well as gmail which ofcourse i have pop3 enabled. I just have to go to the email setup on the blackberry connect settings and then this disconnects the blackberry GPRS and reconnects Rogers GPRS and takes me to the RIM website where i can add upto 10 email accounts (including the 2 company email accounts which i have from my office). I didn't need the desktop part to connect to my enterprise server as it started working automatically once i put in the user id and password for my personal accounts. I haven't as yet started using the company email accounts as my blackberry 8700 was company configured and so i will be starting the company email too once i get the password to my email accounts which are like myname@mycompany.com and myname@wirelessprovider.blackberry.net. I believe then my office mail should be working too. I got a simple solution you guys have a bigger headache as you need the Microsoft Exchange or Lotus domino or BES settings probably from the desktop client.

It did take a while to start the service initially but then worked like a breeze. One problem I now have is that when i got it the first time i had to regiser a username and password. This is linked to the blackberry enabled sim card. Is there a way to link another username and password or change the username to the service of this simcard. I do not wish to change handhelds just be able to let my brother set his own username and password for the blackberry service login web page.

Thanks

[FOSA]

Hmmmm.......its strange why users here need a BB enabled SIM card

I'm a personal user and I don't require a BB enabled SIM card. Just a normal 3G SIM card will do

Could it be that for corporate users you need a BB enabled SIM card?

:roll:

[skywriter]

Could it be that for corporate users you need a BB enabled SIM card?

Yes, you need a BB enabled SIM card for Corporate users that have BES servers. this is called a 'blackberry corporate enterprise' account.

if you have a 'blackberry internet' account then you don't need a special SIM card. but please post your email account since some people do have problems with regular accounts and the blackberry connect software.

[skywriter]

It did take a while to start the service initially but then worked like a breeze. One problem I now have is that when i got it the first time i had to regiser a username and password. This is linked to the blackberry enabled sim card. Is there a way to link another username and password or change the username to the service of this simcard. I do not wish to change handhelds just be able to let my brother set his own username and password for the blackberry service login web page.

Thanks

i don't know. when i installed BB connect i was on my desktop logged into outlook. the desktop software populated the email setting directly from the outlook profile for my account. i didn't have to enter anything other than regenerate a new key. then it works ever since, everytime i change ROMS, just regenerate a key key while it's activesynced and i'm fine to go. i don't know if i can use it on another BES server. i don't have another one to try :) i'm not sure what '10 email accounts' means. does it mean '10 email account managed through the same blackberry email service account' (most likely). or '10 email accounts in total' (which seems out of control of blackberry.

[FOSA]

skywriter

Quote

"...but please post your email account since some people do have problems with regular accounts and the blackberry connect software"

Post my email account? I don't understand. I'm using yahoo singapore


I think the BB Connect Desktop software is for corporate users since a PIN is required to be generated

I subscribed my BB service with my telco and I need to key in my user ID, password and add email accounts when I'm at my telco's website. I cannot setup my email account from my QTEK9000

BB can support up to 10 personal email accounts from POP3/ISP - thats what the brochure says

[skywriter]

I subscribed my BB service with my telco and I need to key in my user ID, password and add email accounts when I'm at my telco's website. I cannot setup my email account from my QTEK9000

BB can support up to 10 personal email accounts from POP3/ISP - thats what the brochure says

that's what i meant, sorry i typed the wrong thing and didn't get to edit it; i was rushed at home with getting recalcitrant kids off to school.

right all these things apply to the 'BlackBerry Internet Service account' which is a very much different affair than a corporate blackberry service where your company owns and runs the BES. i don't have a 'BlackBerry Internet Service account' but for the people that do, the information about your setup might be useful.

[Hang|man]

Thanks FOSA for the info... Sky and I have a Corporate service, I'm not sure about the way BB connect for Internet mail works but the BES or MS Corporate service uses encryption ergo the PIN and keys that have to be benerated.

If you all remember on the old BB connect software with T-Mobile there was a choice, Blackberry Internet mail or Blackberry Soloution. The internet mail or instant e-mail is what FOSA has and Blackberry Soloution is what Sky and I have.

In any event posting up here is important for all users trying to test or get this service running on thier devices..... Thanks so far for the good info...

[skywriter]

occasionally, messages go into the outbox and just sit there. presumably because the BB connction is unavailable. anyway to 'make them send'? doesn't seem to be a 'empty outbox now' method.

[Hang|man]

When you are looking at the BB screen in the lower right corner there is a menu tab, select that and at teh bottom of the pop up there is a Synchronise Now eppilet hit that if the BB has GPRS connection it will be bold if there is no connection it will be light colored. After doing the Sync Now the mail should be gone from the outbox

[Hang|man]

Sky how were you able to capture the BB cab during install of the Pocket PC software (not the desktop software)

[vtnguyen]

To understand what type of service you have is key, there are currently two ways to use the Blackberry connect software we have.
1. With Microsoft Exchange Server (Push)
2. Blackberry Enterprise Server (Lotus Domino (Push)

Each service has it's own way of setting up the client.
Since Skywriter uses MS Exchange he should be the best source for asking those related questions.

Since Hang|Man uses Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES) Lotus he should be the best source for that service and related questions.

Example: When I install my client I go through different steps than Skywriter, I load up the BB Connect Active Sync Desktop application and then I install the BB Connect for Pocket PC application. Then I start my VPN connection to my Companies Network, then I start my Desktop Sync program for BB Connect and it looks for my Lotus Log in information...
Once I type in my password it connects to the Lotus server for the information it needs to setup or send to my device. This is the configuration information the device uses to get and send mail and also sync my calandar if I have that selected.
After all is synced I disconnect my device from the USB cable and then I do a lookup for any known name in my service book, this tells me that the service is running and connected. once the lookup finds the name I looked for then I can use the BB service without a problem.

Also when installing the software to your device you should always install it in the main memory and NOT the storrage card, this software has certain registry entries that when istalled on the storrage card cannot be written to the reg. ergo you must install it to the main mem to be stable and function properly.

I installed the BBConnect and Active Sync Desktop to sync the Work Computer (with Exchange Server) and the Dopod 900, by transferring the BB Sim from Blackberry 7290 unit (BB-SIM Corporate) to the Dopod. New PIN was generated as well as the encryption transferred/loaded from BES server. Everything works fine and stable, BUT only for receing mail (push). I could neither send out email (Service Blocked) nor using the Look up function (to search for a name from the Company Global Address List). So I think that there is some additional security feature related to sending mail to BES/Exchange server. Does anyone have a same problem? Thanks. VTN

[vtnguyen]

It is working now. Our IT department just asked for the Blackberry package on top of my Dopod voice/data package (another provider than the one with Blackberry). So I put the old SIM Dopod back and it works flawlessly. Receiving/sending mail, look up address from GAL, all folders of Inbox. Very stable so far (other functions like surfing net, phone etc.. also work like before, but of course after the Net surfing via 3G/GPRS, you have to click "restart" from the BB screen due to "radio in use"). FYI my DOPOD ROM is updated one, with AKU2 (released date end April 2006). VTN

[Hang|man]

To understand what type of service you have is key, there are currently two ways to use the Blackberry connect software we have.
1. With Microsoft Exchange Server (Push)
2. Blackberry Enterprise Server (Lotus Domino (Push)

Each service has it's own way of setting up the client.
Since Skywriter uses MS Exchange he should be the best source for asking those related questions.

Since Hang|Man uses Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES) Lotus he should be the best source for that service and related questions.

Example: When I install my client I go through different steps than Skywriter, I load up the BB Connect Active Sync Desktop application and then I install the BB Connect for Pocket PC application. Then I start my VPN connection to my Companies Network, then I start my Desktop Sync program for BB Connect and it looks for my Lotus Log in information...
Once I type in my password it connects to the Lotus server for the information it needs to setup or send to my device. This is the configuration information the device uses to get and send mail and also sync my calandar if I have that selected.
After all is synced I disconnect my device from the USB cable and then I do a lookup for any known name in my service book, this tells me that the service is running and connected. once the lookup finds the name I looked for then I can use the BB service without a problem.

Also when installing the software to your device you should always install it in the main memory and NOT the storrage card, this software has certain registry entries that when istalled on the storrage card cannot be written to the reg. ergo you must install it to the main mem to be stable and function properly.

I installed the BBConnect and Active Sync Desktop to sync the Work Computer (with Exchange Server) and the Dopod 900, by transferring the BB Sim from Blackberry 7290 unit (BB-SIM Corporate) to the Dopod. New PIN was generated as well as the encryption transferred/loaded from BES server. Everything works fine and stable, BUT only for receing mail (push). I could neither send out email (Service Blocked) nor using the Look up function (to search for a name from the Company Global Address List). So I think that there is some additional security feature related to sending mail to BES/Exchange server. Does anyone have a same problem? Thanks. VTN

A couple of things to watch out for, If you are using a SIM from a Blackberry device, like I am (8125) you need to be aware of the features that are allowed with that sim, i.e. does it have browsing and or internet enabled services, On my contract with Cingular I found out that I had browsing and what they call Media.net but on my boss's device he only had BB BES service, his SIM is with T-Mobile. I got him an O2 Exec just like mine and I took his sim card out of his blackberry and configure it with the Vodaphone ROM and BB connect, vodaphone cause he likes the colors.... go figure anyway when I set his device up to use the voicestream wap settings I get connection errors because his service does not allow it. When I set my Exec up for Cingular WAP settings it works fine because that service is in my plan. Now to the problem you have as far as recieving mail but not being able to do lookups or send mail, could be a couple of things but I was able t0o resolve the same problem with my device by going into the BB desktop program and under the security tab selecting generate key manually. I did this once and re synced, then I went in a couple of days later and reselected automattic and it has been working fine... Also I have found that right after you install the client and do a coonect sync with the desktop that you should reboot the device by hitting the reset button, not a hard reset but a soft one. You also have to make sure you have a good solid GPRS signal. If you look at your today screen and you see the BB icon down in the lower right corner and it is a complete Icon then select messaging from the programs section and then go to blackberry, on that screen in the lower right corner is a menu tab select that and at the bottom of that pop up there is a Syncronise Now option, if that is BOLD then you have a connection and can sync with your remote server. if it is grey then you can not sync.

[skywriter]

Sky how were you able to capture the BB cab during install of the Pocket PC software (not the desktop software)

go to c:\program files\research in motion\blackberry pocketpc\bbconnect_pocketpc_bb.cab

thats the pocketpc cab! :)

[skywriter]

btw i got my motorola HT820 headphones. and the QTEK Stereo A2DPP work great :) . only functionality i care about that's missing is pause/restart... but heck, at least ican get about 20 feet away before drop out. between than the THREE i got with an old all HP setup. i also got a pair of i-take bluepro's also very nice. onlu thing missing is incomplete AVRCP, no pause/resume.

[Hang|man]

Sky, I got the Same headset Moto HT820 and I am using the same rom as you, works great!

[skywriter]

Sky, I got the Same headset Moto HT820 and I am using the same rom as you, works great!
the MOTO HT820's work nice, i especially like the rechargable part since i've already gone through one battery on the i-take bluepro's :) i used the HT820's the first day, but i've been on my back sick fro 4 days, and the 'round the back of the head' got unconfortable. but the sound was really nice. the the bluepros came in the mail, and i've been using them ever since. i get also 30 feet unobstructed distance from them, they're great!!!! my last first pair for HP and iPAQ got me about 3 feet. the the
Bluetake i-phono's wewre both uncomfortable and distance limited, worse yet, you need a little autio to bluetooth convertor box....hassle. it's amazing how much bad stuff you have by before you find the right thing. at least i have TWO good headphones now. they're really important to me.

well, i've only got 355merg left on the 4GB SD card... time for a 8GB one or lot's for 4GB for movies :) trouble is a have a crappy DVD ripper... it only rips certain DVDs.

[skywriter]

Well, yesterday my freind who was having problems getting BB connect to work with his Wizard finally succeeded! we had swapped SIM's to see if there was a problem there, and his SIM worked in my Uni, so that wasn't the problem. he hardreset and only installed the BB connect software and THAT didn't work. so finally, he was able to upgrade his t-mobile ROM to a QTEK version and viola! it works!

more freedom from blackberry devices!!!!!

[Hang|man]

I'd just like to know what the difference is between the AKU2 and AKU3.2 ROMS is so that we could install the BB software on the AKU3.
It must have something to do with the way AKU3 networking is set up inside the nk.nbf file.
I know how to extract the files from an nk.nbf but thats as far as my talent goes.....

When I installed the AKU 3.2 Beta 8 ROM and the BB Connect software, at the initial reboot I get a connection and mail but then it goes into a blocked status and never will recover. Good GPRS signal and all but it will never show any new mail....

[ghost]

Hi,

after a new try (I got nothing from t-mobile) to get a working BBclient for my t-mobile mda pro from the hotline I found a nice article here that the vodaphone client works better and has no branding.

So I downloaded it and it works fine. We have a blackberry server here in the company so I use the enterprise solution.

Here is my information:

Provider: T-Mobile Germany
Phone: MDA Pro
Rom-Version: 1.30.113 Ger
Rom-Date: 04/13/06
Radio-Version: 1.10.03
Prot: 42.44.P8
ExtRom: 1.30.224 Ger

BB-Client: 2.1.2.16
BB-Desktop: 2.1.0.16
ASync: 4.1.0

I got the PPC-Client from Vodaphone:
http://www.vodafone.de/downloadarea/BBConnect_PocketPC_BB_2.1.2.16.zip

The BB-Desktop-Software I got from T-Mobile.

So thanks a lot to all and thanks for the great forum.

Erik

[skywriter]

that's the one we all use :) welcome to the new liberation!

[Cods]

Very nice thread, I've read through and am now just trying to work out exactly what to do, in what order.

Current Situation:
Provider Optus Australia 3G SIM with BlackBerry Enterprise set up
WM5 Device iMate Jasjar with latest Club iMate ROM/Radio
WM5 Device Information ROM = 1.30.76 WWE / ROM date = 02/20/06 / Radio = 1.09.00 / Protocol = 42.42.P8 / ExtROM = 1.30.164 WWE
BlackBerry Device Optus BlackBerry 8707 ('g' I think - it's definitely the 3G version although I'm lead to believe that with BlackBerry, Optus only use 3G for data - voice remains GSM)
BlackBerry Environment BlackBerry Enterprise (set up with our large corporate IT group's Exchange Servers)
BlackBerry Desktop Downloaded from one of the links here to Vodaphone DE - ActiveSync_BBConnect_Desktop_Setup_2.1.1.9.exe
BlackBerry Client Downloaded from Ghost's link - BBConnect_PocketPC_BB_2.1.2.16.exe

Stupid question time:
1. Do I need to load a different ROM? If so, what's the latest recomendation?
2. Do I need to load a different radio version? If so, what's the latest recomendation?
3. I noticed when the IT department did the setup of my BlackBerry that there's a newer version of BlackBerry Desktop Software (v4.2). Is this of any relevance?

More in a bit, knocking off from work to go home and sort this out.

Cheers,

[mavrik64]

Appologies if this has been mentioned b4, (I don't have time to read through this at the moment) but Blakberry software etc is available on the XDA site at O2. I came across it late last night. Twas added in Spetember.

regards

Mav

[skywriter]

Stupid question time:
1. Do I need to load a different ROM? If so, what's the latest recomendation?
2. Do I need to load a different radio version? If so, what's the latest recomendation?
3. I noticed when the IT department did the setup of my BlackBerry that there's a newer version of BlackBerry Desktop Software (v4.2). Is this of any relevance?


1. no i've used three modern ROM's they all work even the i-mate one.
2. no, i've used version 1.9 and 1.11 and 1.13 all the same
3. you don't use the blackberry software that they installed for your black berry. use the blackberry connect software. activesync with option for NO email and NO calendar. gnerate new key manually. select [connect]. (enable the calendar PIM option on the JASJAR. it should give you new PIN, and KEY, and tell you it is synchonizing calander info (that part might be a little ifffy). then you can disconnect the JASJAR and use the BB connect software to restart the service. should come up.

[skywriter]

well it seems the enterprise BES nazi's can tell what you are connecting with, and don't like blackberry connect. so it's back to the blackberry 7290 dungeon for me :( my JASJAR is basically useless again...

[cdally]

Lots of info here but I couldn't quite work out the answer to my 2 simple questions:

1) What is the best combination of software if I want to run BBConnect on my Universal with an UK Orange Sim?

2) I work for a large corporation who provide me with a Blackberry, if I get my Uni all sorted out with BB connect the right ROM etc, will I be able to simply put in my work (UK Orange) SIM and press "go"?
Thanks!

[skywriter]

1) i used latest O2 ROM for a few days without a problem.
2) basically Yes. you install the SIM, run the desktop program to re-key, and/or re-pin. and everything should just go. there are details for calendar sync that i you can discover. it's easy.

[groggrog]

2) service stops when phone radio in use, doesn't restart afterward. has to have a soft reset to start it - i have a similar problem, but i can use the status->restart to get it to go most of the time, else it requires a soft reset as well. i only use the phone once or twice a week so it's not a big deal to me. my MDA is a PDA first, phone second.

Regarding the above section in a previous post, I've seen nothing but the radio in use and activesync connect messages on my Cingular 8125. I have not been able to get it to say anything other than those no matter what reset or ROM i've used. I'm currently using Molski's latest, and am currently using the 2.47.11 radio ROM. I've been paying the $40 a month to Cingular for about 3 months now and have never once been able to use it. Can anybody tell me definitively how to get this working on my device? I understand it's difficult and that's why this thread exists, but it seems like some people have been successful with this combination.

I have no problem installing any other ROM or radio version as long as it fixes this problem.

Thank you in advance!

[spiderdaddy]

Does anyone know how to change the APN in the blackberry connect client.

The nice unbranded O2/Vodaphone version is set to blackberry.net, but T-Mobile Germany requires mail.t-mobile.net.

I've scanned the files and the registry but I cant find this string anywhere.

Cheers

[spiderdaddy]

Does anyone know how to change the APN in the blackberry connect client.

The nice unbranded O2/Vodaphone version is set to blackberry.net, but T-Mobile Germany requires mail.t-mobile.net.

I've scanned the files and the registry but I cant find this string anywhere.

Cheers

Actually I think it's stored as XML in the file BBRegistrationInfo_bb.dll but these files are signed so I don't know how to change them. Anybody?

[groggrog]

2) service stops when phone radio in use, doesn't restart afterward. has to have a soft reset to start it - i have a similar problem, but i can use the status->restart to get it to go most of the time, else it requires a soft reset as well. i only use the phone once or twice a week so it's not a big deal to me. my MDA is a PDA first, phone second.

Regarding the above section in a previous post, I've seen nothing but the radio in use and activesync connect messages on my Cingular 8125. I have not been able to get it to say anything other than those no matter what reset or ROM i've used. I'm currently using Molski's latest, and am currently using the 2.47.11 radio ROM. I've been paying the $40 a month to Cingular for about 3 months now and have never once been able to use it. Can anybody tell me definitively how to get this working on my device? I understand it's difficult and that's why this thread exists, but it seems like some people have been successful with this combination.

I have no problem installing any other ROM or radio version as long as it fixes this problem.

Thank you in advance!

Can anybody help? I'm wasting $40 a month on the service from Cingular and it's not working, any ideas would be really helpful.

Thanks

[groggrog]

Can anybody help? I'm wasting $40 a month on the service from Cingular and it's not working, any ideas would be really helpful.

Thanks

Ok last attempt, surely someone else is having this same problem...

How about this...can anybody tell me what ROM and/or Radio versions to use on my unlocked Cingular 8125 G3 that is proven to work with Blackberry Connect? I'm currently using Molski's latest and have tried several radio versions but still cannot get past Blocked-Radio In Use. I don't really care who's ROM I'm using as long as Blackberry Connect works.

Thanks again

[Airax]

Not sure if any bodies noticed, on the O2 XDA site, they've released BB connect software for the Exec....

[groggrog]

Not sure if any bodies noticed, on the O2 XDA site, they've released BB connect software for the Exec....

What's the link?

[gquipster]

From http://www.my-xda.com/xdaExecSoftware.jsp:

Xda Exec ROM - the Xda Exec System Software

The latest Xda Exec System Software is available for you to download. New and changed in this version of software, v1.30.162 are:

*

Microsoft AKU 2 (Adaptation Kit Update) featuring:

Microsoft Messaging and Security Feature Pack (MSFP)* allowing Direct Push Email, Wireless Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, Global Address List (GAL) Lookup and Security Policies.

* Requires organisations to be running Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 and SP2. Please contact your company IT Manager to confirm your infrastructure and for assistance with setting up your device for direct push email.
* Updated Comm Manager, providing new buttons for controlling Direct Push Mail and active Data connections.
* Updated Radio v1.09.00
* Updated CE image v1.30.107

This software is for Xda Exec in UK and Ireland

* BlackBerry Connect software (Sept '06)

[tonyb15re]

what version of the BB client is it using, I have the QTEK rom with the unbranded BB Client working fine on my XDA, dont want to clog up the XDA with the O2 Branded crap and an O2 Specific Locked BB Client.

[beginner]

what version of the BB client is it using, I have the QTEK rom with the unbranded BB Client working fine on my XDA, dont want to clog up the XDA with the O2 Branded crap and an O2 Specific Locked BB Client.

I tried O2 rom.
- I have BES services and access corporate mail, plus internet accounts.
- Performance in general of the rom is very bad, if you have tested as in my case latest AKU 3.2 and AKU 3.3. to go down make you feel stupid because you decrease the universal speed by 10 times at least.

- There is a lack of compatibility of BB with aku 3.x. Looks is due the internet sharing of the new aku, but how to manage?

[sspp]

Hi All

I have managed to install the BB Connect on my 6828, the desktop manager on my notebook. In fact it has managed to generate a pin that i previously had. However, I cannot get the dektop manager to connect with the ppc. It is connected coz it is syncing. I am using my company enterprise server for BB

I have 5 screenshots. Anyone has seen this problem?

[beginner]

Hi All

I have managed to install the BB Connect on my 6828, the desktop manager on my notebook. In fact it has managed to generate a pin that i previously had. However, I cannot get the dektop manager to connect with the ppc. It is connected coz it is syncing. I am using my company enterprise server for BB

I have 5 screenshots. Anyone has seen this problem?

Sometimes it happen to me (imate jasjar) and solved restart pc and pda. Just in the case, did you install bb in the pda in programs memory?

[sspp]

Sometimes it happen to me (imate jasjar) and solved restart pc and pda. Just in the case, did you install bb in the pda in programs memory?

Hi it is installed in the program memory. I even removed my SD card to make sure and I have already reboot my PC and PPC....

[mrbubble]

anyone here have the above working and can add some tips
i have xda mini s (htc_wizard)

slp 2.21
ipl 2.21
gsm02.07.10
os 2.21.4.1

blackberry version 2.1.2.16
transport 2.1.0.63

had a bb7290 move to new phone we have a corp bes server out it have reisated my account i understand i just need to activate enterprise conection like on the bb7290, ive also read here that on pocket pc phone you need to run the bbclient/desktop manager on your pc and setup this service on the pc?

ive set up the client with my phone service says connected but that it no email no calendar.
most otehr roms ive tryed the bb server would say data tunnel avaliable but the 02 rom i get connected, ive setup a orange gprs coneection this works fine for ie and hotmail email.

[c0rnholio]

Hi Folks,

maybe this is somewhat usefull in the process of getting BBC running on non-OEM versions of CE (like AKU 3.2/3.5 or even WM6).

You can enable debug logging for BBC with the following registry entries:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Research In Motion\BlackBerry

DWORD: DoInstallDebugLogs
Value: 1

DWORD: DoLoggingDebugLogs
Value: 1

Reg_SZ: LogFolderPath
Value: \temp

DWORD: LogLevel
Value: 5

DWORD: MaxLogFileSize
Value: 512

DWORD: NumLogFiles
Value: 5

Change the above values to fit your needs. Be aware that the above settings will create a miximum of 5 logfile with 512K each. Maybe you should set your LogFolderPath to your sd-card...

The two logfiles that are created are: BBLog.txt (this is the interesting one) and LoggingDebugLog.txt.

I got this info while looking at BBService.dll and BBLog.dll.

BTW: I'm working with BBC Version 2.1.2.31 which is available at T-Mobile and Vodafone.

Since BBC does not seem to run on non-OEM versions of CE, I took a look on what is going on. In the generated log files one can see that BBC is collecting informations about the OS-Version, AKU-Version and some more stuff. It then generates a string out of that info and this strings seems to be compared somewhere on the way to RIM (or at RIM itself). However, if this string is not in the list of allowed values, the connection will be dropped. I may be totally wrong, but if we where somehow able to manipulate the system infos (or the generated string itself) we might be able to run BBC on the new OS versions that people here are working on.

I'm currently not able to compare the logs when running on one of the new OS's, because I can't reflash atm. So maybe someone else is able/willing to do some more research...

Cheers

[beginner]

Hi Folks,

maybe this is somewhat usefull in the process of getting BBC running on non-OEM versions of CE (like AKU 3.2/3.5 or even WM6).

You can enable debug logging for BBC with the following registry entries:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Research In Motion\BlackBerry

DWORD: DoInstallDebugLogs
Value: 1

DWORD: DoLoggingDebugLogs
Value: 1

Reg_SZ: LogFolderPath
Value: \temp

DWORD: LogLevel
Value: 5

DWORD: MaxLogFileSize
Value: 512

DWORD: NumLogFiles
Value: 5

Change the above values to fit your needs. Be aware that the above settings will create a miximum of 5 logfile with 512K each. Maybe you should set your LogFolderPath to your sd-card...

The two logfiles that are created are: BBLog.txt (this is the interesting one) and LoggingDebugLog.txt.

I got this info while looking at BBService.dll and BBLog.dll.

BTW: I'm working with BBC Version 2.1.2.31 which is available at T-Mobile and Vodafone.

Since BBC does not seem to run on non-OEM versions of CE, I took a look on what is going on. In the generated log files one can see that BBC is collecting informations about the OS-Version, AKU-Version and some more stuff. It then generates a string out of that info and this strings seems to be compared somewhere on the way to RIM (or at RIM itself). However, if this string is not in the list of allowed values, the connection will be dropped. I may be totally wrong, but if we where somehow able to manipulate the system infos (or the generated string itself) we might be able to run BBC on the new OS versions that people here are working on.

I'm currently not able to compare the logs when running on one of the new OS's, because I can't reflash atm. So maybe someone else is able/willing to do some more research...

Cheers

I'm not sure you are ok. I have running bb on wm6. Times it maintains perfect, including soft reset. Other times after first soft reset it leaves to work. In my opinion it is due some problem of priority or how are engaged the communications. I think is complex (for me, after review reg honestly I don't know what is the point, but looks more related to the program of bb and how it interacts with the operating system).

[c0rnholio]

Hi Folks,

here are my findings with the debug logging enabled:

BBC generates a pseudo random os version number. This version number is transmitted to the bb network. Depending on the right combination you will be allowed to establih a connection.

The pseudo random version number depends on some values:
1. AKU Version Number (and the most interesting one...I'll come to this later)
2. BBC Version Number
3. OS Version Number
and maybe 4. BB Transport Version Number

I have checked this with different roms and bbc clients.

All the above values are fix and cannot be manipulated, except the AKU Version number, because it is derrived from the registry (HKLM\System\Versions ).
You can prove the above if you enable debug logging with a working version. Look in the logfile for the String: "OS version:" there will be a value there.
Now if you change the AKU Version number in your registry and restart the BBC client and take a look in your logfile again, this value has changed and you will not be able to reconnect to the bb network until you reset your AKU version number to the corret value.

Example:

ROM Version: 5.1.195
AKU Version: .2.0.0
BBC Version: 2.1.2.31

will result in a pseudo random os version number of: 3496747723 (hex d06c22cb)

The above is the working one. Now some changes to the AKU value in the registry:

ROM Version: 5.1.195
AKU Version: .2.0.1
BBC Version: 2.1.2.31

will result in a pseudo random os version number of: 3496747723 (hex d06c22cb)

Now a change in the Blackberry Connect Version:

ROM Version: 5.1.195
AKU Version: .2.0.0
BBC Version: 2.1.2.45

will result in a pseudo random os version number of: 1770697997 (hex 698ab50d)

ROM Version: 5.1.195
AKU Version: .2.0.0
BBC Version: 2.1.2.52

will result in a pseudo random os version number of: 2364486547 (hex 8cef3393)

It has to be mentioned that BBC version 2.1.2.45 and 2.1.2.52 will generally not work on AKU 2 ROMs since they are made for AKU 3 ROMs (2.1.2.45 is for the HTC Herold and 2.1.2.52 is for the Hermes with AKU 3).

BTW: if you use the hex number and put it in octets it will result in the Systemversion Number that is shown in the info tab of the BBC Client. Like for the first one above that is my current working one: "d0 6c 22 cb" will convert to 208.108.34.203...

So far so good, but this is the point where I'm stuck. I've tried different rom versions and different bbc client versions, so I got a good handfull of pseudo random os version numbers. My crypto-skills are pretty poor and I know a shit about PRNG, so maybe someone's out there who can use the above info to find a way to get it working. Fact is that the generated os version string can be manipulated using the aku registry value, so I assume that if you find the correct value to generate a correct version string BBC will work on every ROM you like.

What do you guys out there think about it?

Cheers

[beginner]

Hi Folks,

here are my findings with the debug logging enabled:

BBC generates a pseudo random os version number. This version number is transmitted to the bb network. Depending on the right combination you will be allowed to establih a connection.

The pseudo random version number depends on some values:
1. AKU Version Number (and the most interesting one...I'll come to this later)
2. BBC Version Number
3. OS Version Number
and maybe 4. BB Transport Version Number

I have checked this with different roms and bbc clients.

All the above values are fix and cannot be manipulated, except the AKU Version number, because it is derrived from the registry (HKLM\System\Versions ).
You can prove the above if you enable debug logging with a working version. Look in the logfile for the String: "OS version:" there will be a value there.
Now if you change the AKU Version number in your registry and restart the BBC client and take a look in your logfile again, this value has changed and you will not be able to reconnect to the bb network until you reset your AKU version number to the corret value.

Example:

ROM Version: 5.1.195
AKU Version: .2.0.0
BBC Version: 2.1.2.31

will result in a pseudo random os version number of: 3496747723 (hex d06c22cb)

The above is the working one. Now some changes to the AKU value in the registry:

ROM Version: 5.1.195
AKU Version: .2.0.1
BBC Version: 2.1.2.31

will result in a pseudo random os version number of: 3496747723 (hex d06c22cb)

So far so good, but this is the point where I'm stuck. I've tried different rom versions and different bbc client versions, so I got a good handfull of pseudo random os version numbers. My crypto-skills are pretty poor and I know a shit about PRNG, so maybe someone's out there who can use the above info to find a way to get it working. Fact is that the generated os version string can be manipulated using the aku registry value, so I assume that if you find the correct value to generate a correct version string BBC will work on every ROM you like.

What do you guys out there think about it?

Cheers

Good job!!!

did you check with other aku and changing this value BB works?

[c0rnholio]

Good job!!!

did you check with other aku and changing this value BB works?

No, as long I don't know how the algorythm is which is used to calculate the string and as long as I don't know all the parameters that are needed to calculate it, it would be like finding a single fish in the ocean (at least for me)...
Sure you can manipulate the AKU reg string for as long as you find a correct one, but this would be very time consuming...

I've created a thread in the dev and hacking section. I hope someone will pick it up...

[c0rnholio]

Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1144237&postcount=3

Cheers

[KarmaNP]

Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1144237&postcount=3

Cheers

You're my new HERO.
I just installed the WM6 ROM after modifying the hex and AKU version as your instructions and it's pulling the emails already.

Thank you for your great work.

[Mattie Boy]

You're my new HERO.
I just installed the WM6 ROM after modifying the hex and AKU version as your instructions and it's pulling the emails already.

Thank you for your great work.

Would it be possible for you to upload the modified file so us idiots can get this to work too?

[erik.cartman]

ok i'm dumb. i have a blackberry, and an XDA. i hate the blackberry, but the BES services are fine. how can i get the software to run my XDA as a blackberry? the BES server is owned/operated by my company.
thanks!

I've successfully make BBC work on my XDA EXEC. You can download the compatible ROM and BBC from http://www.xda.02.co.uk/alreadyHaveExec.html . This is a WM5 ROM. This O2's official site. The "software update" like unfortunately is not working this weekend.

However, I have not been able to make find a BBC that is compatible with WM6.

Regards.

[beginner]

I've successfully make BBC work on my XDA EXEC. You can download the compatible ROM and BBC from http://www.xda.02.co.uk/alreadyHaveExec.html . This is a WM5 ROM. This O2's official site. The "software update" like unfortunately is not working this weekend.

However, I have not been able to make find a BBC that is compatible with WM6.

Regards.

you can do if follow the instructions in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294218&goto=newpost