My experience with i-mate JASJAM ROM on TyTN

[CJNYC]

OK, I've had the i-mate JASJAM ROM installed on my TyTN for a little more than 24 hours. As you probably know, this device was just released this past week, much later than the TyTN. The ROM build seems to be signficantly better based on speed and maturity of the drivers. I have now installed the 2GB microSD card all the software I was using before, including...

1. SPB Pocket Plus
2. WorldMate Pro
3. Verichat
4. PIE Plus
5. Virtual Earth Mobile
6. TCPMP
7. SlingPlayer Mobile

It would seem that i-mate has fixed the issues I was having with the audio/video drivers. When using SlingPlayer Mobile with the original TyTN ROM, the stream would play successfully for a minute or so and then begin to stutter badly whenever I got an email or the device did anything else, which I believe was due to the audio driver. With the i-mate ROM, the issue is completely gone. I can leave SlingPlayer Mobile open indefinitely without issue. Additionally, I find the device significantly more responsive. While it is still slightly slow to turn on from standby sometimes, switching between applications and the overall responsiveness is much better. Now, whenever I press the envelope button, it switches to Outlook instantly while before there was a definite lag. Additionally, I'm getting significantly fewer momentary system hangs and the keyboard seems a bit more responsive, with very few skipped keystrokes. Lastly, battery life seems modestly better.

You can get the ROM over at xda-developers.com, but be sure to read carefully about installation. To get MMS properly installed again, you need to install that CAB from the original TyTN extended ROM.

That being said, I still can't get MMS to work through Cingular :(

[lpsi2000]

The Cingular MMS Server Settings are:

Server Name: Cingular MMSC
Gateway: 66.209.11.61
Port:9201
Server Address: http://mmsc.cingular.com
Sending Size Limitation: 100K
Wap Version: Wap 1.2

[nickcerda]

I use:

# Server Name: Cingular MMS
# Gateway: wireless.cingular.com
# Port number: 80
# Server address: http://mmsc.cingular.com
# Connect via: MEdia Net
# Sending size limitation: 300k
# WAP Version: WAP 2.0

This is right from cingulars support page for use with the wizard. I have tested this on the TyTn and it does work.

[CJNYC]

OK, here's my problem. I'm using the isp.cingular APN to connect via the following settings...

Access point name: isp.cingular
Username: WIXDC001@W5.MYCINGULAR.COM (case sensitive)
Password: ZXY203DC9K0402 (case sensitive)

Believe it or not, I can not get the wap.cingular APN to connect for some reason! Do you have to be using the wap.cingular APN for MMS to work?

Thanks!

[nickcerda]

Don't know why dont you try these settings, test MMS, then we'll see from there.

Configuring the Cingular 8125 for Pocket Outlook e-mail and/or Wi-Fi access:

1. From the "Start" menu select Settings.
http://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/uploadimages/PATTLNK_11152005_1932-8125_main_settings.jpg

2. Tap the Connections tab, select the Connections icon.
http://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/uploadimages/PATTLNK_11152005_1934-8125_connection_settings1.jpg

3. Select the Advanced Tab.
http://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/uploadimages/PATTLNK_5182006_1613-8125_connection_settings2.jpg

4. Tap Select Networks.
http://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/uploadimages/PATTLNK_5182006_1618-8125_Settings_connection_Advanced_SelectNetwork.jp g

5. Select My ISP from the dropdown and tap Edit.
http://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/uploadimages/PATTLNK_692006_1856-8125_Settings_MyISP_Edit.jpg

6. With Cingular GPRS selected tap Edit.
http://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/uploadimages/PATTLNK_692006_1724-8125_Settings_MyISP_ModemSelected.jpg

7. Verify the following setting and press Next:
http://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/uploadimages/PATTLNK_11152005_1939-8125_connection_settings7.jpg
* Enter a name for the connection: Cingular GPRS
* Select a modem:Cellular Line (GPRS)

8. In the "Access point name" field enter wap.cingular and select Next.
http://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/uploadimages/PATTLNK_11152005_1942-8125_enter_APN.jpg

9. Verify the following profile settings then tap Advanced:
http://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/uploadimages/PATTLNK_5182006_1837-8125_GPRSuser_profile_Advanced.jpg
* Username: WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM
* Password: CINGULAR1
* Domain: Blank

Verify the following settings and tap ok:
10. http://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/uploadimages/PATTLNK_5182006_1838-8125_GPRSuser_profile_Advanced_ServerIP.jpg
* Use server assigned IP address: Selected
* Use specific IP address: Unselected
* Use software compression: Unchecked
* Use IP header compression: Checked

11. Tap Finish.
http://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/uploadimages/PATTLNK_5182006_1724-8125_APN_usersettings_Finish.jpg

12. Tap Ok.
http://cingular.atgnow.com/cng/uploadimages/PATTLNK_11152005_201-8125_connection_settings5.jpg

13. Attempt an internet connection.

If problem persists, please contact Cingular Customer Care.

NOTE:
APN: Access Point Name

[mrvanx]

Hey people, If i did install this new ROM onto my TyTN (removing the origional HTC version) what things would i need to do to ensure the TyTN is working just as it was before the new rom (3rd party apps and things like MMS) ???

[gravejoker]

What are the benefits of the iMate JASJAM ROM as compared to the original HTM TyTN ROM?


-JoKer

[mrvanx]

Just to add, ive began using the imate ROM and im experiencing MMS problems with O2 UK also..... update soon when ive tested further

[mrvanx]

...it seems that having installed the .cabs from the HTC ext rom it messed up MMS?! I reinstalled the imate ext rom by copying the contents from the wiki page in this file (ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Hermes/Extended_ROMs/JASJAM_1.20.305.3_1.20.305.104_1.07.03.10_ExtROM_W WE.rar) to the unlocked ext rom folder, then running the autorun file. It once again prompted for my carrier (to which i selected O2 UK contract) ....and (lol) again it froze when installing the IMEI restricted cabs.....a soft reset cured this. Now testing MMS and its working correctly.

(wiki page updated to warn of this effect)

[mike.bradshaw]

I agree with the first entry on this thread that the imat eROM seems to perform better than the HTC version, however I do not seem to be able to get the WIFI to connect.

The Comm Manager shows it switched on but when you go to WIFI Settings, the screen does not show any settings and it is not possible to refresh a netwrok list to force a search.

Does anyone have any ideas? Is this an Extended ROM install that I missed?

Thanks
Mike

[Daryan]

I upgraded my TyTN to the i-mate ROM today after extensive research on line to see the effects of a move like this. It all worked fairly well and I agree with the original post that the i-mate ROM seems to improve performance and overall 'feel' to the device but I hit the MMS problems same as everybody else, despite trying to use both the i-mate MMS cab file and the HTC MMS cab file (and the MMS worked prior to flashing). I am now putting the TyTN ROM back to see if I screwed up somewhere along the line and maybe start again. I have seen advice saying use the HTC cab and advice saying use the i-mate EXT ROM in it's entirety so not sure where to go next.

(one thing I did do was to run the i-mate MMS cab prior to running the HTC MMS cab without a hard reset in between so this may have played a part)

Will keep you all posted....

[Daryan]

Okay, the HTC ROM is back in place and MMS working fine - same connections settings etc. so there is def a compatibility prob with the JASJAM ROM on the TyTN. BUT..... having put the HTC ROM back the performance really, really does suck so I reckon I am going back to the i-mate option and will screw around with the MMS some more. If I get a definitive answer I will post here.

[Daryan]

Ok, it turns out that I am something of an idiot as every time I tried to test the MMS I was typing in the connection settings incorrectly (one of those hand eye things, or the lack of!)......

In summary the JASJAM ROM works superbly on the TyTN device. There are one or two apps that will not run due to vendor locking (as most of you will already know) but on the whole it works perfectly.

To set the record straight (after all of you have looked at my recent posts and despaired) I have put together a custom EXTROM package that will install the necessary onto your device after you have flashed the JASJAM ROM onto it. In order to use it you need to flash the ROM and then soft reset just before the device runs the EXTROM (when it says 'Customizing in 3 seconds') and then unlock your EXTROM (see the wiki (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unhide_Extrom) for details). Once you have unlocked your EXTROM put the contents of the zipfile into it and either run the Autorun exe or perform a hard reset (I prefer the Autorun option but it is up to you).

I HAVE tested this but only once or twice so pls use it at your own risk. On one of the occasions the MMS was not installed correctly so this was resloved by running the MMS CAB file from the EXTROM.

[daddyo]

Daryan - good work

what cab files are included in your attachment?


I have had a lot of trouble with the MMS settings myself

I installed the relevant MMS cab file and it worked ok but on a soft reset the settings had gone!!

I left it overnight last night with the mms settings installed and when I came to it this morning, they remained after a soft reset!

I did a hard reset and reinstalled the MMS settings via the cab file and again they had gone after a soft reset!

For a final time, I did hard reset, reinstalled MMS cab, left for about 20mins, did soft reset and the mms settings remained.

Elsewhere peple on other devices have mentioned the need for the mms settings taking several minutes to be written to device memory. This appears to be true with my experiences with the tytn mms cab file.

[Daryan]

Daryan - good work

what cab files are included in your attachment?

The only cab files that are present are (and some of this is general presumption rather than accurate knowledge) the imate generic stuff such as audio / video drivers etc., the smartdialer, vendor specifics and the MMS install (expand the zip file for specifics)



I have had a lot of trouble with the MMS settings myself

I installed the relevant MMS cab file and it worked ok but on a soft reset the settings had gone!!

I left it overnight last night with the mms settings installed and when I came to it this morning, they remained after a soft reset!

I did a hard reset and reinstalled the MMS settings via the cab file and again they had gone after a soft reset!

For a final time, I did hard reset, reinstalled MMS cab, left for about 20mins, did soft reset and the mms settings remained.

Elsewhere peple on other devices have mentioned the need for the mms settings taking several minutes to be written to device memory. This appears to be true with my experiences with the tytn mms cab file.

This is not something that I experienced so can't comment but what I can say is that if you let the standard JASJAM EXTROM install after a flash or hard reset then the MMS feature is not installed straight away. You can get it to work by running the MMS CAB from the extended rom but this also allows the vendor locked cab files to attempt to run and this is an unknown variable. I recommend perform a fresh install (or hard reset) and stopping the EXTROM running by performing a soft reset after initial configuration (see above). Doing it this way seemed to go well.

[gmatharu12]

This is very interesting results! I still haven't got a Vario II yet, but its something I will definitly be pestering my mum for, for a long time lol.

Anyway...
1. I see you use TCPMP, is there a good improvement in playback on this ROM ?
2. What version of the JASJAM ROM is this ?
3. Does the device freeze due to recharging like reported alot ?
4. Lastly... Does the normal stuff work.. Wireless, Bluetooth, Calling, etc...

Thanks v.much in advance!

[Daryan]

This is very interesting results! I still haven't got a Vario II yet, but its something I will definitly be pestering my mum for, for a long time lol.

Anyway...
1. I see you use TCPMP, is there a good improvement in playback on this ROM ?
2. What version of the JASJAM ROM is this ?
3. Does the device freeze due to recharging like reported alot ?
4. Lastly... Does the normal stuff work.. Wireless, Bluetooth, Calling, etc...

Thanks v.much in advance!

Interestingly, I haven't had a chance to test the playback much even tho this is main reason I looked into switching the ROM! When I get a chance to play I'll let you know.

It is a cut down from version 1.18.255.3 07/22/06 (EXT ROM 1.18.255.106) which is the latest WWE version as far as I could tell

The answer to 3 is a no, not that I can tell at the moment.

The 'normal' stuff is all fine. I did quite a lot of research before moving to this ROM and the only probs I found mentioned were MMS (which I spoke about above) and WLAN which I have found to be working fine.

[gmatharu12]

Thats great! Thanks!
Cool and let us all know how TCPMP does when your free, much appreciated!