(requests) From the Users to the Mods & Admins

[dont know]

Hi,

@DesireS we would need a MOD. It's a quite new forum and it has no heavy traffic - but some things are asked twice or x-times - and some threads would be worth to get sticky..

So, if someone has free time.. ;)


Thanks

[Blezz]

Hi,

@DesireS we would need a MOD. It's a quite new forum and it has no heavy traffic - but some things are asked twice or x-times - and some threads would be worth to get sticky..

So, if someone has free time.. ;)


Thankswell we got a mod at our desire s forum, he is just doing... nothing ;)

[hurikan23]

Why haven’t been there Xperia neo forum yet? We would like one, because there are differences between the arc and neo. A developer part should be made for neo within the arc forum as in the case of Mini's forum. It is possible?

We would like to put up ROM with Flashtool there too and the arc ROM isn’t the same as neo’s ones.

[Caterpillar86]

Hello!
Could you please delete my account? I wrongly registered two accounts because I did not remember that I have already registered another previously.

Thank you

[stetsonaw]

Request an LG Revolution section.

Phone has been rooted, only a matter of time before we have recovery. People coming here looking for the section or info on the phone because this is the place to go. IF there is no forum for this phone, nobody is going to do anything for it as it will seem as if there is no interest.

[thebum2323]

Request an LG Revolution section.

Phone has been rooted, only a matter of time before we have recovery. People coming here looking for the section or info on the phone because this is the place to go. IF there is no forum for this phone, nobody is going to do anything for it as it will seem as if there is no interest.

I second the request

[thebum2323]

Can you please make/add a LG Revolution development thread it would benefit the community tremendously. The Revolution will be successful for the most important reason... it has an unlocked bootloader and has already been rooted. Thanks in advance!:)

[the_scotsman]

well we got a mod at our desire s forum, he is just doing... nothing ;)

Is there any particular reason you say this? I've had a look around the Desire S forums and can't see anything really wrong?

Just curious...if you feel that there are any issues or posts that need cleaned up, do you have links for them?

[_Allan_]

Can there be some form of ... alphabetization? For example.... the HTC section in "Compact View" has 40 or so sections. BUT if I want to find "Glacier" or "Rhodium" I have to CTRL+F to search the page.

IF it were alpha, then it would save everyone time.
ALSO the same for expanded view...
Have all the HTC's in a group and by first letter(s) of the model. (again "Glacier" comes before "Rhodium").

Just asking, so that noobs (myself included) can find the ones we one quickly and efficiently.

Thanks!

edit: Here are two lists. Please find the "Elocity A7" in each list, and tell me what was faster.
First list is as it is now, second list is alphabetized.
iPhone
HTC Diamond: Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV
HTC Dream: G1
HTC Sapphire: myTouch 3G, Magic
HTC Hero: G2 Touch
HTC Hero CDMA
HTC Rhodium: Touch Pro2, Tilt 2
HTC Leo: HD2
HTC Droid Eris
HTC Nexus One
HTC HD Mini
HTC Legend
HTC Desire
HTC Supersonic: EVO 4G
HTC Droid Incredible
LG GT540 Optimus
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10
Samsung Captivate
Samsung Vibrant
Samsung Epic 4G
Samsung Mesmerize
Samsung Fascinate
Samsung Galaxy S I9000
HTC Espresso: myTouch 3G Slide
Motorola Droid and Milestone
Motorola Milestone XT720
Motorola Milestone 2
Motorola Droid 2
HTC Aria
Motorola Droid X
HTC Buzz: Wildfire
Dell Streak
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X2
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini
HTC G2 and Desire Z
HTC Desire HD
Samsung Galaxy Tab
Motorola Bravo
Motorola Flipside
Motorola Flipout
HTC HD7
HTC 7 Mozart
Samsung Focus
Samsung Omnia 7
HTC Glacier: myTouch 4G/Panache
Dell Venue Pro
HTC Surround
LG Quantum
LG Optimus 7
Motorola Droid Pro
LG Optimus One, P500, V
Viewsonic G Tablet
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X8
Motorola Defy
Barnes & Noble Nook Color
Samsung Galaxy 3
Samsung Continuum
Archos Gen8
Samsung Nexus S
Notion Ink Adam
Huawei Ideos X5 U8800
Huawei Ideos S7
Samsung Intercept
ZTE Blade
Elocity A7
Toshiba Folio 100
HTC EVO Shift 4G
HTC Thunderbolt
Advent Vega
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc
Dell Streak 7
Motorola Atrix 4G
LG Optimus 2x
Motorola Droid Bionic
Dell Venue
HTC Inspire 4G
HTC Flyer
HTC Incredible S
HTC Desire S
HTC Wildfire S
HTC Salsa
HTC ChaCha
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
Samsung Galaxy S II I9100
Kyocera Zio M6000
Samsung Galaxy S 4G
LG Optimus 3D
HTC 7 Pro
Sony Ericsson Xperia Play
HTC EVO 3D
Asus Eee Pad Transformer
HTC Sensation
T-Mobile LG G2x
T-Mobile Sidekick 4G
Acer Iconia A500
Verizon Droid Incredible 2
Verizon Droid Charge
Samsung Infuse 4G


Acer Iconia A500
Advent Vega
Archos Gen8
Asus Eee Pad Transformer
Barnes & Noble Nook Color
Dell Streak
Dell Streak 7
Dell Venue
Dell Venue Pro
Elocity A7
HTC 7 Mozart
HTC 7 Pro
HTC Aria
HTC Buzz: Wildfire
HTC ChaCha
HTC Desire
HTC Desire HD
HTC Desire S
HTC Diamond: Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV
HTC Dream: G1
HTC Droid Eris
HTC Droid Incredible
HTC Espresso: myTouch 3G Slide
HTC EVO 3D
HTC EVO Shift 4G
HTC Flyer
HTC G2 and Desire Z
HTC Glacier: myTouch 4G/Panache
HTC HD Mini
HTC HD7
HTC Hero CDMA
HTC Hero: G2 Touch
HTC Incredible S
HTC Inspire 4G
HTC Legend
HTC Leo: HD2
HTC Nexus One
HTC Rhodium: Touch Pro2, Tilt 2
HTC Salsa
HTC Sapphire: myTouch 3G, Magic
HTC Sensation
HTC Supersonic: EVO 4G
HTC Surround
HTC Thunderbolt
HTC Wildfire S
Huawei Ideos S7
Huawei Ideos X5 U8800
iPhone
Kyocera Zio M6000
LG GT540 Optimus
LG Optimus 2x
LG Optimus 3D
LG Optimus 7
LG Optimus One, P500, V
LG Quantum
Motorola Atrix 4G
Motorola Bravo
Motorola Defy
Motorola Droid 2
Motorola Droid and Milestone
Motorola Droid Bionic
Motorola Droid Pro
Motorola Droid X
Motorola Flipout
Motorola Flipside
Motorola Milestone 2
Motorola Milestone XT720
Notion Ink Adam
Samsung Captivate
Samsung Continuum
Samsung Epic 4G
Samsung Fascinate
Samsung Focus
Samsung Galaxy 3
Samsung Galaxy S 4G
Samsung Galaxy S I9000
Samsung Galaxy S II I9100
Samsung Galaxy Tab
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
Samsung Infuse 4G
Samsung Intercept
Samsung Mesmerize
Samsung Nexus S
Samsung Omnia 7
Samsung Vibrant
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc
Sony Ericsson Xperia Play
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X2
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X8
T-Mobile LG G2x
T-Mobile Sidekick 4G
Toshiba Folio 100
Verizon Droid Charge
Verizon Droid Incredible 2
Viewsonic G Tablet
ZTE Blade


I even did the 'hard' work, by alphabetizing them, so you just have to move them in the Admin Panel. ;) ;)

[Blezz]

Is there any particular reason you say this? I've had a look around the Desire S forums and can't see anything really wrong?

Just curious...if you feel that there are any issues or posts that need cleaned up, do you have links for them?then sorry but i don't think u look very much then
there are lots of things posted 4-5 times or more, non devs threads in the android dev forum and such things
click me (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1099914) take this thread as example

[navycow]

Request an LG Revolution section.

Phone has been rooted, only a matter of time before we have recovery. People coming here looking for the section or info on the phone because this is the place to go. IF there is no forum for this phone, nobody is going to do anything for it as it will seem as if there is no interest.

Pretty Please?

[NotATreoFan]

Pretty Please?

It is up for discussion behind the curtain now.

[Step666]

im just writing so that i can be allowed on other pages where i cant write right nowNot a smart move...

[quyTam]

please, open a LG Optimus Black P970 !

There're already 2 threads of requests and 10 billions of user waiting for it ^^

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089967
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054230

[devinhfox]

Request an LG Revolution section.

Phone has been rooted, only a matter of time before we have recovery. People coming here looking for the section or info on the phone because this is the place to go. IF there is no forum for this phone, nobody is going to do anything for it as it will seem as if there is no interest.

+1
Rooting this thing was easy as my original Droid was.
Would be great to see a custom rom to remove Bing and replace with Google stuff.

Right now, even if you remove bing through rooting and removing the APKs, pressing the search button causes force-closes of the process.acore.
It's a bummer.

[svan71]

Me either......

[Robbie P]

Uh, XDA admin dudes?

EDIT: An unthank button would be awesome, too. I've misclicked many times.

+1 on this, I've noticed a few "oops pressed wrong button" then (kindly) "thanked you back"!
After a person has been thanked for a post the button disappears for that post forever.
It could change temporarily to unthank, at least until the person logs off the site and before the thanks is registered.
Excellent work everyone!

[Cutterstark]

Love the site, thanks.

[cajunflavoredbob]

Uh, XDA admin dudes?

Please, for the love of god, FIX THE SEARCH! It's been busted for weeks, and the lack of it creates a lot of work for developers and users alike.

EDIT: An unthank button would be awesome, too. I've misclicked many times.

An unthank button would be amazing. The majority of the Thanks I give out are misclicks... Having the Thanks button change into an Unthank button is a good idea.

[meltwater]

When someone is able to, can the poll be removed from my thread, its not needed anymore.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758107

Any chance we could remove polls ourselves, even if it is a Recognized Developer and OP only option. I'd like to use them more often, but not being able to remove them makes this harder.

Thanks.

[pulser_g2]

When someone is able to, can the poll be removed from my thread, its not needed anymore.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758107

Any chance we could remove polls ourselves, even if it is a Recognized Developer and OP only option. I'd like to use them more often, but not being able to remove them makes this harder.

Thanks.

Removing a poll requires admin rights, so that's not an option unfortuantely.

[MikeChannon]

When someone is able to, can the poll be removed from my thread, its not needed anymore.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758107

Any chance we could remove polls ourselves, even if it is a Recognized Developer and OP only option. I'd like to use them more often, but not being able to remove them makes this harder.

Thanks.

Poll removed as requested.

vBulletin does not make it easy to give the option to delete polls. Our Moderators can Edit Polls, but only Admins can delete. I believe we have looked into this previously.

Mike Channon
Forum Admin

[meltwater]

Poll removed as requested.

vBulletin does not make it easy to give the option to delete polls. Our Moderators can Edit Polls, but only Admins can delete. I believe we have looked into this previously.

Mike Channon
Forum Admin

Fair enough, I guessed it was at the mercy of vBull. Thanks.

[NotATreoFan]

On the offhand chance you haven't discovered it yet, here's the LG Revolution forum (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1177).

[xaueious]

Request for a Huwaei U8150 subforum, and all relevant posts be moved into it.

Users have been asking for more than half a year

[NotATreoFan]

Request for a Huwaei U8150 subforum, and all relevant posts be moved into it.

Users have been asking for more than half a year

The site owners decided against creating a section for the U8150. You can read the post here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13594869#post13594869).

[Casey_boy]

Could someone please clarify the forum descriptions for Windows Phone 7 General and Windows Phone 7 Q&A?

The general forum states:
For general comments, thoughts, and questions relating to the Windows Phone 7 platform

But Q&A forum also says:
For all of your questions relating to Windows Phone 7

I reckon removing the questions bit from the General forum would suffice? Else there seems little point to having the Q&A forum.

Casey

[nunomeneses]

Hi, can we have an Lg optimus Black P970 section like the other Lg phones?

I support!

[SP1986]

I love these forums but they're just horrific to navigate. Threads with multiple hundreds of pages consisting of nothing but
+1.../10char
came from ROM X to ROM Y loving it so far +1!!
Not only is it infuriating to try and glean information from a thread filled with this stuff, but it's got to be putting massive strain on your database and forum software. There's got to be a way to discourage users from posting low content posts that basically boil down to "postcount++". I'm not saying those users should be outright banned, but maybe some sort of warning that says "enough with the low content posts, POSTING privelages revoked for x days" dependant upon said user's post history. It just seems counter-intuitive to not let new users post questions to devs in a dev forum, but to let posters who go around making postcount++ posts post no content posts in forums you're trying to "keep clean"

In a more feasible manner, how about an option to display more than a dozen or so posts per page? 40 is a nice number :D

Maybe Lowtax & crew over at the SomethingAwful forums spoiled me, though. This is the only other forum I've used outside of SAF, so I might be in the wrong here


vvv Sonofa...how the heck did I blow by it in the control panel? Thanks dude!

[boborone]

^ I have it set to display 50 on both the web and app

[streamnlnl]

@SP1986

I know your frustration. I can't agree more. I'm trying to let the mod see how it could be easier to tread useful post.
You can read my idea here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1085069

[SP1986]

@SP1986

I know your frustration. I can't agree more. I'm trying to let the mod see how it could be easier to tread useful post.
You can read my idea here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1085069

It's not that I think we need a new feature - I'd just like to see all the "+1" posts be replaced with a press of the "Thanks" button. It's there for a reason, I assume, so why not use it? Are people so attention starved that they need to press the button AND make a post telling the world they pressed the button?

[boborone]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=2610082

User is posting nonsense all over the forum

Just see the last three posts in the xda app thread. All him and jibberish.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841646&page=5

Edit, just look right above my post for example

[NotATreoFan]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=2610082

User is posting nonsense all over the forum

Just see the last three posts in the xda app thread. All him and jibberish.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841646&page=5

Edit, just look right above my post for example

This has been dealt with. Thank you for the report.

--------------------
Sent via the combination of 4G airwaves and a Samsung device, using the full featured version of Tapatalk, better known as Forum Runner. ;)

[boborone]

This has been dealt with. Thank you for the report.

--------------------
Sent via the combination of 4G airwaves and a Samsung device, using the full featured version of Tapatalk, better known as Forum Runner. ;)

With the new report system, I wasn't sure who to notify of this. Thought maybe post it here before he hit 10 and started way laying into the dev forums. But he 10 posts and stopped. Not sure what was going on.

BTW, how are talks on getting OT and post count for noobs nullified?

[belkre,]

Can we get a thread for the Tmobile G-slate / Optimus Pad its being carried in USA , Canada, Japan , and UK There had allready been some development on it The Tablet has been ROOTed, all the partitions are able to be dumped and restored with ease making it really safe for development.

[Zbawiciel]

I don't know if it has been mentioned already but "Era" (a provider in Poland) recently turned into T-Mobile Polska. If you could change it in the provider list it would be nice :)

[12aon]

I don't know if it has been mentioned already but "Era" (a provider in Poland) recently turned into T-Mobile Polska. If you could change it in the provider list it would be nice :)

There is a separate thread in the general section, it would be best of you would post it there,

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[madnish30]

I don't know if it has been mentioned already but "Era" (a provider in Poland) recently turned into T-Mobile Polska. If you could change it in the provider list it would be nice :)

Post it here please http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=650541

[PharmCAT]

Can the coding for that ad on top be rewritten or something? Browsing this forum on the android is a pain in the butt because every time the ad changes it sends a new command to the browser to refresh. This is especially tedious when trying to browse and especially replying to threads because the address bar then has to appear and take up space. (Using the default android browser)

Doesn't seem like this is a problem on the desktop though...And no I will not buy the xda pro app because of this...

[madnish30]

Can the coding for that ad on top be rewritten or something? Browsing this forum on the android is a pain in the butt because every time the ad changes it sends a new command to the browser to refresh. This is especially tedious when trying to browse and especially replying to threads because the address bar then has to appear and take up space. (Using the default android browser)

Doesn't seem like this is a problem on the desktop though...And no I will not buy the xda pro app because of this...

Well, there is a free version too.
Give it a shot http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-android-app/

[NotATreoFan]

Can the coding for that ad on top be rewritten or something? Browsing this forum on the android is a pain in the butt because every time the ad changes it sends a new command to the browser to refresh. This is especially tedious when trying to browse and especially replying to threads because the address bar then has to appear and take up space. (Using the default android browser)

Doesn't seem like this is a problem on the desktop though...And no I will not buy the xda pro app because of this...

Download the free app?

[cajunflavoredbob]

Can the coding for that ad on top be rewritten or something? Browsing this forum on the android is a pain in the butt because every time the ad changes it sends a new command to the browser to refresh. This is especially tedious when trying to browse and especially replying to threads because the address bar then has to appear and take up space. (Using the default android browser)

Doesn't seem like this is a problem on the desktop though...And no I will not buy the xda pro app because of this...

Out of curiosity, why wouldn't you want to get the pro version for only a dollar? It goes to support this site and keep it running.

Either way, there are other options as well. You could download a different browser, like FireFox or Skyfire. I have no problem surfing XDA on either of those. The native android browser is kind of limited. Both of those browsers are free, by the way. As mentioned, there is a free version of the XDA app as well that would work if a dollar isn't possible to pay for any reason.

[boborone]

Out of curiosity, why wouldn't you want to get the pro version for only a dollar? It goes to support this site and keep it running.

Either way, there are other options as well. You could download a different browser, like FireFox or Skyfire. I have no problem surfing XDA on either of those. The native android browser is kind of limited. Both of those browsers are free, by the way. As mentioned, there is a free version of the XDA app as well that would work if a dollar isn't possible to pay for any reason.

I don't understand why people complain about the four dollar price of root explorer.

[PharmCAT]

Out of curiosity, why wouldn't you want to get the pro version for only a dollar? It goes to support this site and keep it running.I like my tinfoil hat. :p

[cajunflavoredbob]

I don't understand why people complain about the four dollar price of root explorer.

Touché, sir.

[meltwater]

Has the "thanks" quota count got stuck? Unable to thank anyone at the moment, but guess it could be a rolling 24hour peroid.

Also is it possible that devs could have more thanks to give, since bug reports and testing etc is something we like to thank lots of people for.

[Nokser]

Hi Mods & Admin
Change Picture Operator Poland, from Era to T-mobile??
because now is Global Operator T-mobile, not a Era GSM
Cheers

[madnish30]

Hi Mods & Admin
Change Picture Operator Poland, from Era to T-mobile??
because now is Global Operator T-mobile, not a Era GSM
Cheers

Read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14477248&postcount=2039

[dfgas]

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[madnish30]

Here is the link to the concerned moderator's profile : http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=487859

[andjjru]

We in the mesmerize section are again requesting a new modderator for our area. The only time anything gets done in our area is when we get a hold of him (which is a task, look at the list no link for his name). We just need someone to come in and clean it up. We are so irritated with this that it makes us want to move to a new forum. Can't we just vote on getting a new mod for mesmerize area?

Agreed. A more active moderator would be extremely helpful in the Samsung Mesmerize forum.

[madnish30]

Agreed. A more active moderator would be extremely helpful in the Samsung Mesmerize forum.

Link to the moderator's profile is above, feel free to PM him.
Thanks for the feedback.

[dfgas]

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[bdemartino]

Link to the moderator's profile is above, feel free to PM him.
Thanks for the feedback.

A moderator's job is to moderate (Which by one definition is, to monitor), it's not our job to inform our moderator of issues that they should be noticing during their monitoring of the forum. We have plenty of people in there that would be better suited for the job. I'm not saying jerdog isn't suited for the job, I really don't know what his situation is but the only time any moderation is done is when we inform him (which he does do a very good job of), so maybe it's just that he doesn't have the time or doesn't read our forum enough to notice it himself. Either way, someone who actually uses the forum would make a better candidate, and I'm positive there are a few guys including myself, who would have no problem taking over. This way, people who are monitoring for things can take care of them right there instead of having to contact someone else and wait for action to be taken.

[madnish30]

ok and this is the second time we have complained about it. how many more times is needed to do something about it??? Can we please do a vote in the mes section on to keep or replace our new mod?

A moderator's job is to moderate (Which by one definition is, to monitor), it's not our job to inform our moderator of issues that they should be noticing during their monitoring of the forum. We have plenty of people in there that would be better suited for the job. I'm not saying jerdog isn't suited for the job, I really don't know what his situation is but the only time any moderation is done is when we inform him (which he does do a very good job of), so maybe it's just that he doesn't have the time or doesn't read our forum enough to notice it himself. Either way, someone who actually uses the forum would make a better candidate, and I'm positive there are a few guys including myself, who would have no problem taking over. This way, people who are monitoring for things can take care of them right there instead of having to contact someone else and wait for action to be taken.

Guys, relax.
Moderators too are humans who do this job for the betterment of the forum that too voluntarily - I agree that there maybe a lax somewhere - but, I'm sure there is a reason behind it - and let the rightful people investigate those.
In the meantime I have informed the necessary people and rest assured they will look into this matter, be patient and this shall be dealt with ASAP.

Thanks for the feedback again.

[dfgas]

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[madnish30]

I assume we are being ignored now. We don't want to fix it, just stick with what doesn't work. We have to do his job for him. BS

Nobody is being ignored, this is being dealt with. And by pointing out a thread/post which needs attention - you can make things easier for us moderators - doesn't take much and neither it should be taken as some kind of favor anyone does, it's only for the betterment of the forum.

[bdemartino]

Guys, relax.
Moderators too are humans who do this job for the betterment of the forum that too voluntarily - I agree that there maybe a lax somewhere - but, I'm sure there is a reason behind it - and let the rightful people investigate those.
In the meantime I have informed the necessary people and rest assured they will look into this matter, be patient and this shall be dealt with ASAP.

Thanks for the feedback again.

Like I stated before, I'm sure there is a reason jerdog doesn't catch things without our help (And I'm not knocking him, "as a human" ;) ) - bottom line is it's been this way since he started, so I'm pretty sure it's not going to change until we get someone in place that reads and understands the forum a little better.


And I am completely relaxed, for the record :)


And Yes, it is nice that we can help out our fellow users and moderator, but the frequency of this happening is more than just doing a favor for him, the moderation simply wouldn't be done without us.

[dfgas]

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[madnish30]

And I am completely relaxed, for the record :)


And Yes, it is nice that we can help out our fellow users and moderator, but the frequency of this happening is more than just doing a favor for him, the moderation simply wouldn't be done without us.

Nice to know you are relaxed, and point noted. :)

it used to be real easy and now it has been changed, we used to report the post that were in the wrong section and now we have to pm our mod. why can't we go back to the easy way. click and type why and done. Its not hard for a mod to come in once in a while and clean stuff up. We are quick to ban users out of hand, but we will take our sweet time at cleaning up. This is my problem, not much if at all has been done since this was changed. Up until now I am sure no one knew how to get a hold of this person. I know people have lives, but even once a week to come in and clean it up is not that hard.

I agree that it is a moderator's duty to come by and rove the forums and get things in the correct place, but there could be things preventing the moderator concerned from doing so - i'm not aware of his situation or the case - so I won't speak much about that, and the people concerned are looking into this.

Besides about the new RP system - it's only an attempt to prioritize things - clerical things like moving/closing/merging thread which does NOT need IMMEDIATE attention - can be PM'd where as things like warez/flame fest etc etc which need to be dealt with can still be reported the old way and that will get immediate attention, I know it increases a step for the members - but it's only for the overall betterment of the forum.

Please be patient.

[dfgas]

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[madnish30]

And as bdemartino has stated this has been going on for a long time, its not just a recent thing, again this is the second time complaining about it.

We completely understand your point, but give us sometime and in the meantime please report the threads which you feel need attention or PM them to the mod ( You can CC me and I shall get the needful done - if the mod doesn't respond in time.)
Thanks for understanding.

[the_scotsman]

Guys, we are looking into it...no need to discuss further. Thanks for highlighting it.

[TheDeadCPU]

the_scotsman clearly said no more discussion about the case, keep it so.

[cajunflavoredbob]

Please delete this thread per OP request.

Remove (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111989)

[madnish30]

Please delete this thread per OP request.

Remove (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111989)

Done.
10chars

[HurricaneMike]

I'm sure this has been discussed before - its so obvious.
I post on lots of forums - in fact even run my own

This 10 post limit before joining in the developers is a PIA.
I'm a genuine user so I will probably post a few stupid posts just to get my numbers up

Not a good way to get contributers IMO :mad:

[pulser_g2]

I'm sure this has been discussed before - its so obvious.
I post on lots of forums - in fact even run my own

This 10 post limit before joining in the developers is a PIA.
I'm a genuine user so I will probably post a few stupid posts just to get my numbers up

Not a good way to get contributers IMO :mad:

The system works perfectly. Those who are going to post the same junk over and over again are not the type of members we want to see.

Likewise, those who make useful posts in Q&A or general areas are the kinds of members who make a positive contribution to XDA, and they will find no issue in posting in dev areas after achieving 10 sensible posts.

[abuntxa]

Hi,
I was wondering if it woulf be possible to create a new Device Category for the Device LG Optimus Black.

There is quite a lot of people wanting to post things about this device and currently there isn´t any for it.

Thanks in advance!

[cajunflavoredbob]

Can someone please censor the phone number in the following post for the OP's own good? Thanks in advance.....

[Q] HELP!!!! (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117858)



EDIT: The number is in the OP. Also, the thread belongs in the General Section, not the Dev forum. Thank you again.

[doministry]

Dear Mods:

Few days ago polish Operator ERA became T-Mobile Poland.

Please change it in user details so it can be displayed.

[skinniezinho]

Please open forum LG P970!!!

Please do!

[muveszur]

Dear Moderators and Administrators!

I have a problem with my account, I hope you are able to help me!
My username is "ltnine2", but I published my developents named "muveszur"...The people know me as "muveszur", not ltnine2 except the XDA forums... So it would be nice, if people everywhere recognised me as "muveszur", it won't be two name for a developer...

So the problem is that, if I make a new registration as "muveszur", I won't be able to modify threads, which was made by "ltnine2", and of course, my the thanks and post counters are will be 0...

So It is possible to change my username from "ltnine2" to "muveszur", or create a new account as "muveszur", and connect to the ltnine2 account?
What is the best options?

Thanks off all, and all the best for you!
ltnine2, aka muveszur

[DaveShaw]

Dear Moderators and Administrators!

I have a problem with my account, I hope you are able to help me!
My username is "ltnine2", but I published my developents named "muveszur"...The people know me as "muveszur", not ltnine2 except the XDA forums... So it would be nice, if people everywhere recognised me as "muveszur", it won't be two name for a developer...

So the problem is that, if I make a new registration as "muveszur", I won't be able to modify threads, which was made by "ltnine2", and of course, my the thanks and post counters are will be 0...

So It is possible to change my username from "ltnine2" to "muveszur", or create a new account as "muveszur", and connect to the ltnine2 account?
What is the best options?

Thanks off all, and all the best for you!
ltnine2, aka muveszur

ltnine2 / muveszur,
Only the admins can modify user names.

Please PM MikeChannon with your request, if the username is available, he will change it for you.

Dave

[cajunflavoredbob]

Someone please have a look at the last five posts of the following user. They are all older posts from last year, but clearly are advertisements for some sort of scam.

Search: Posts Made By: delokaver (http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=75966492)

[cajunflavoredbob]

Can someone please delete THIS POST (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14696547&postcount=4725)? I made a double post by accident. The second one with the EDIT is the one I want to keep.

[the_scotsman]

Can someone please delete THIS POST (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14696547&postcount=4725)? I made a double post by accident. The second one with the EDIT is the one I want to keep.

Done :)

[cajunflavoredbob]

Another user posting nonsense in the forums. The last five out of six posts are all jibberish.

Search: Posts Made By: alaa_hany47 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=76301793)

[Rebellos]

Can you please split bada sections a little bit? We are starting to have big mess there, another subforum for Android on Wave port would be great, or maybe you will get better idea.
Original topic about the problem
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124803

Thanks in advance

[cajunflavoredbob]

Someone please have a look at the last five posts of the following user. They are all older posts from last year, but clearly are advertisements for some sort of scam.

Search: Posts Made By: delokaver (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=1143463)

Another user posting nonsense in the forums. The last five out of six posts are all jibberish.

Search: Posts Made By: alaa_hany47 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3859317)

Can someone please take care of these?

[asn-mat]

so guys whene are you planing to add xperia neo forum ?
:)

[faria]

Can someone please take care of these?Done.......

[scedric57]

hi i would post a new thread with my theme for galaxy s but i can t post it because i can't write link in the post. Could you unlock this ?
thanks
Cedric

[cajunflavoredbob]

hi i would post a new thread with my theme for galaxy s but i can t post it because i can't write link in the post. Could you unlock this ?
thanks
Cedric

10 helpful posts will unlock it for you. That's the only way.

[scedric57]

ok thanks

9 posts now lol

[NotATreoFan]

ok thanks

9 posts now lol

You can link to internal XDA posts already. External links will not be permitted until somewhere around 10 posts.

Why not post your theme as an attachment to a thread?

[scedric57]

that was to not rewrite all my post writed on a french Galaxy s forum with picture and link but it's a good idea for the moment thanks
PS: sorry for my english ;)

[scedric57]

i try but i ve a problem i can't attach my zip file of the theme because > 8mo :(

EDIT: That's good now thanks

[andy_lowe02]

I was wondering if we could get a new Motorola Devour Sub-Forum here at XDA? I'm also a member over at Android Forums but I use XDA the most and every day. I have found a sub-forum for the Devour over at Android Forums and thought to myself...if we can get a Devour forum over here,it would draw more people(potential members) and more support for the Motorola Devour. My buddy has a Devour that he wanted me to root for him but I could barely find any info on it here in XDA. I had to go over to Android Forums to find the info I was looking for. I think this would greatly bring more members and support for the Devour if we can start a sub-forum for it.I included the website for you to check out if you'd like and really hope that we can do something about this and bring more support for the Devour over to XDA. If you guys need a moderator for the sub-forum let me know. I'm willing to help out in any way that I possibly can. Thanks for taking the time to read this!
Website: http://androidforums.com/motorola-devour/

[expza]

Hi Admins.

There's no logo for my carrier, "South Africa - MTN"

Just thought I would link to a logo, in case anyone's O.C.D. kicked in and felt like adding it :)

http://www.androidza.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/mtn-logo-small.jpg

[aloy99]

I recently noticed an advert for the Airpush SDK on the site. Is it possible to have it removed?

[osrix]

A few of us have been discussing the possibility of getting a thanks button in the xda android app. I am wondering if someone can impliment this feature.

As I am sure everyone is aware it can be frustarting to have 67# downloads and 10 thanks! maybe this may encourage users to show more appreciation!?

Would there also be a possibility of hiding download links until the thanks button is pressed on the main browser and the app??

I guess in someways this kind of defeats the object of actual thanks being given but at least it may go some way to keeping developers and contributers encouraged to continue!

cheers

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15032510#post15032510

[Step666]

Would there also be a possibility of hiding download links until the thanks button is pressed on the main browser and the app??So people have to thank you before they can find out whether your work actually deserves thanks?

[cajunflavoredbob]

Is there a moderator who can help me with something for a few minutes? I need to have a thread unlocked for a minute, so I can make an edit to a post of mine (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11319041&postcount=13). I keep getting a ton of PM's from users about an application update that doesn't work anymore. I don't mean to be impatient, but the sooner one of you guys sees this and can assist me, the better (for my sanity).

[pulser_g2]

A few of us have been discussing the possibility of getting a thanks button in the xda android app. I am wondering if someone can impliment this feature.

As I am sure everyone is aware it can be frustarting to have 67# downloads and 10 thanks! maybe this may encourage users to show more appreciation!?

Would there also be a possibility of hiding download links until the thanks button is pressed on the main browser and the app??

I guess in someways this kind of defeats the object of actual thanks being given but at least it may go some way to keeping developers and contributers encouraged to continue!

cheers

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15032510#post15032510

You're totally removing the value of the button if you demand it first. So I don't see that ever coming.

Remember you only get 5 per day :)

People will thank you if you deserve it, and not in advance. Otherwise it's pointless

[osrix]

You're totally removing the value of the button if you demand it first. So I don't see that ever coming.

Remember you only get 5 per day :)

People will thank you if you deserve it, and not in advance. Otherwise it's pointless

Lol..totally true slight oversight on my part i dont know the answer to that one..

but definately a thanks button in the xda android app would be beneficial :)

[Shoulon]

over in the Epic community it's pretty chaotic at times. and new thread's don't help.
So I was wondering what you guy's think of this new rule of possibly being implemented?

"User must be either X (3?) week's old or obtain at least X (35?) post before making a thread.(this doesn't include Q&A Section)
10 Post count is still in play for posting new thread's in Development section."

Also for those Dev's who don't post at all,

-Dev Rule.
To by pass 35 post count and or X week's old, user can obtain X amount of thank's by helping user's.

Note* the dev rule would need some tinkering.*

[bordapapa]

Dear Admins,

Thanks to polovinamozga, we now have bootstrapped recovery for the Motorola Charm (see this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14796425&postcount=412)), and looks like that the development of custom ROMs can start now. :D
Please, if it's possible, add a dedicated Motorola Charm sub-forum.
Thanks!

[Step666]

There's something 'off' about this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143378).

And looking through the user's post history, they all mention 'bluelans.com', so I'm thinking spammer.


edit: also, the OP in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142781) is trying to spam to reach 10 posts.

[boborone]

Its been a long time since I used it, but does anyone remember the xda market for winmo? Was wondering if we could do something like that for the Android devs here making their own apps. Kinda one centralized location to find and help devs with their work. Just a thought I had and throwing it out there.

[cajunflavoredbob]

Its been a long time since I used it, but does anyone remember the xda market for winmo? Was wondering if we could do something like that for the Android devs here making their own apps. Kinda one centralized location to find and help devs with their work. Just a thought I had and throwing it out there.

User Cyclonezephyrxz7 attempted to bring back the idea of a XDA Marketplace. He wasn't able to complete the idea due to lack of interest from developers, and inability to link the project to XDA in an official sense to gain support. He toyed with the idea of incorporating Android into the project, but it did not take off. Should someone else wish to pick up the idea, the domain www.xda-mp.com was hosted to use for the project. The thread for the original project follows.

[PROJ] Live on XDA-Marketplace! (New Devs, same basic idea)[Looking for Support] (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836964)

[boborone]

User Cyclonezephyrxz7 attempted to bring back the idea of a XDA Marketplace. He wasn't able to complete the idea due to lack of interest from developers, and inability to link the project to XDA in an official sense to gain support. He toyed with the idea of incorporating Android into the project, but it did not take off. Should someone else wish to pick up the idea, the domain www.xda-mp.com was hosted to use for the project. The thread for the original project follows.

[PROJ] Live on XDA-Marketplace! (New Devs, same basic idea)[Looking for Support] (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836964)

Thank you, I'd hit the button but not in app yet. I'll look into that.

[cajunflavoredbob]

Thank you, I'd hit the button but not in app yet. I'll look into that.

No problem. I'm sure he'd be more than willing to help out in assisting anyone else who might wish to pick this up. I'd spoken with Cyclonezephyrxz7 before. He's a nice guy and would likely share what he already has to a willing developer.

[boborone]

No problem. I'm sure he'd be more than willing to help out in assisting anyone else who might wish to pick this up. I'd spoken with Cyclonezephyrxz7 before. He's a nice guy and would likely share what he already has to a willing developer.

Ok, cool. I'll have to see what's going on. Thanks again.

[arkedk]

Can we get a proper report system. The current system with pressing 1-5, being directed to yet a new window that then refers to a link to a google doc, where I have to manually find the right mod within 183 multiple choices, then click the mods profile link back to XDA, and then finally pressing the send message, to be able to take any action to what I wanted to report.
This could be done so much better and so much simpler, especially for such a big site as XDA.

[boborone]

Can someone please edit the name out of this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15275404&postcount=41). I don't the member did it on purpose, but public posting of a member's name shouldn't happen, none the less.

[Buerste89]

What the heck is the 10 stupid nonesense posts everywhere but not in hacking forums for new members about?

I just want to post a question/answer to a topic and have to post 10 things to thing I'm not interested in?

Turn it off, it s***s.

[knzo]

Can we see this section request with 200+ appeals attended? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089967)

[3xeno]

Can we get a proper report system. The current system with pressing 1-5, being directed to yet a new window that then refers to a link to a google doc, where I have to manually find the right mod within 183 multiple choices, then click the mods profile link back to XDA, and then finally pressing the send message, to be able to take any action to what I wanted to report.
This could be done so much better and so much simpler, especially for such a big site as XDA.

When you open a Forum / Sub-Forum, the list of moderators are listed at the bottom of the page, (Below Display Options - at the Right side) with links to their profile. So, what I do is, directly access the profile of the active moderator from there, and PM him with links to threads reports. It's much shorter. :)

[cajunflavoredbob]

What the heck is the 10 stupid nonesense posts everywhere but not in hacking forums for new members about?

I just want to post a question/answer to a topic and have to post 10 things to thing I'm not interested in?

Turn it off, it s***s.

Questions go in Q&A or General sections, not development. If you can answer someone's question in a dev thread, chances are high that you could answer a few in the General or Q&A section to boost your post count. The ten posts rule is there for you to learn the ropes and build a reputation of being a helpful member before you are able to become active in development. Unfortunately, this is another example of where the good suffer for the bad. We had so many problems with people posting nonsense or spamming in the dev forums, that this rule had to be put in place. It has dramatically reduced the amount of moderation needed in the dev section.

[aloysiust]

Hi, can we have an Lg optimus Black P970 section like the other Lg phones?

Yes please have a section for LG Optimus Black P970 :D

[raving_nanza]

possable to have a thanks button on the xda classic skin please, cba changing skin to thank people for their work. THANKS! :)

Rn

[sebek_d]

Hi, can we have an Lg optimus Black P970 section like the other Lg phones?

We definitely need one.

[cajunflavoredbob]

I don't know where else this could be posted to be seen by the most mods/admins, so I'm posting it here, as most of you guys check this thread at one point or another.

XDA has grown into quite a site since I first came around here years ago. Back then, I had just purchased a HTC Sable and was very happy to be the only one in my circle who used a PDA as a phone. My friends called it my laptop due to it's size and functionality. It wasn't my first PDA, but it was the first one I owned that incorporated the phone function into it, so I didn't have to carry two devices. It was a tremendous help to be able to share my enthusiasm with a community of people whom all shared the same interest in electronic gadgets as I did.

As time moved on, I bought newer and better toys, and always landed here to discuss and share thoughts and ideas. This was my home base, if you will. I came here to load up on cool programs, themes, and other stuff, and then went off to wow my friends and co-workers. I was not prepared then to know that in just a few short years, my forward grasp of the mobile technology world would be turned on its heels as iOS and Android devices poured into the market. When that happened, and my friends, who had wowed over my all-in-one mobile device, bought their own smartphones for the first time, the first, and only, place I could think to send them was XDA.

XDA has seen it's share of ups and down over the years. The site has had to cater to a whole new user group. The site has had to evolve in it's standards and practices along the way to meet the growing populace and develop along with the changing environment. Most WM users had always been of the older (over 20) generation. With the influx of Android as an OS, we began to see younger users wielding smartphones for the first time. It suddenly became 'cool' to have a touchscreen device whereas previously, the market wanted almost nothing to do with them. Even through this, XDA and its staff handled the change as elegantly as ever.

This brings me to the crux of my memo here. Throughout this ever changing site, it became the decision of some to begin removing and reprimanding users for their signature content. I will not go into everyone who was affected by this, but I will say that I was prepared to completely leave this forum, which I have called home for so many years over what appeared to be a lapse in judgement. I am not a person who seeks credit for helping other people, even a thank you. I help them because asking questions is how I gained the knowledge I currently possess, both on and off site. That being said, with all that I have done for the community, I was shocked and appalled to receive a PM yesterday telling me that my signature was against the forum rules.

I have had scripture quotes, or simple Bible chapter/verse numbers in my signature off and on for several years across three usernames, and only now received a warning about it. I put things into my signature based on what or how I feel at the moment. I have twice replaced my entire signature with a religious banner and saw no problems from anyone. I understand the need to keep religious discussion out of a mobile development site, but a user's signature is a personal piece of who they are. It is a look into that person's personality. It places value to the person behind the avatar.

Once this happened, I began spreading the word of this to members that I have come in contact with over the years. I also began reading about this happening to others in articles on other mobile forums. I was feeling a bit betrayed by a site I had grown into and shared so much of my time with. I felt as though if I could not express myself here, then what was the point of being here? If a simple line in a signature was allowed to be censored, then what would be next? It felt like a jumping off point for this decision to evolve into much more than just this.

During my time spent in passing word around of what was going on, I began talking to a friend who reminded me to have faith in the staff of the site even though things seemed grim. I was told that this person would stick with me, no matter what happened, but to give it some time to work out. I decided to place my faith in this person as well as XDA even though I was still shaking off feelings of hurt and betrayal.

I awoke this morning to find several e-mails and Twitter replies waiting for me about the announcement from last night. I almost could not believe what I was reading. The decision was made to continue protecting our signatures. It seemed that my faith was not misplaced. The staff at XDA had finally made the announcement I was hoping for. All was well again in our little corner of the Internet.

I just wanted to take a few minutes and share this with you guys. I also wanted to express to you my thanks for all that you guys do to keep this community running. I wanted to let you know that the community will support you in even unpopular decisions (like the 10 posts rule) as long as it is beneficial towards the site. However, we will not hesitate to stand up for what we believe is right or wrong. You all are the example to be set for the new and older members here. Newer members especially will look towards their forum moderator for advice and support on how this community should be.

I thank you all again for this decision. Thank you for keeping the users in mind. Thank you for for protecting our right to express ourselves in a positive manner. Thank you for looking out for the user bases' best interests. Thank you for all of your work in keeping this site running. Thank you for always having our backs. Thank you for all that you guys do behind the scenes that we do not notice or give credit for.

Thank you, and have a safe and happy holiday celebration today.

-CFB

[colossus_r]

Τhe forum that we grow with, our home base in this Mobile world, once again restore our faith to them.
I was sure that the decision from the site admins will be something like this and i am glad that this has come to an end.

Once again well done to all
colossus

[piaqt]

Very well-put.

[Step666]

There are a ton of Google+ related threads in the General section.

Could they maybe be merged or dumped into Off-topic or something?

[NotATreoFan]

There are a ton of Google+ related threads in the General section.

Could they maybe be merged or dumped into Off-topic or something?

We have been merging them into a single thread in Off Topic as we come upon them. If you want to post any that we miss, they will be dealt with swiftly.

[Step666]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155615

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153131

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154326

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153475

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151527

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150913

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1149472

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150057

[NotATreoFan]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155615

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153131

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154326

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153475

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151527

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150913

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1149472

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150057

You can now find them all here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147688).

[cajunflavoredbob]

Someone please close the following thread. The trade is completed now. No more reason to leave it open.

[WANTED] T-Mobile Leo Box (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038259)

[Rebellos]

Reposting request:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124803

Forum related to request:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=920
Notice big mess about android mixed with bada stuff.

[MA7MOD_GSM]

thank you for u post :)

[boborone]

Small businesses are often more in need of custom software development than larger companies as the needs of larger companies can be met by corporate software systems such as ERP (or so the vendors of such systems would have the larger company believe!) but the needs and quirks of the smaller business remain unaddressed in the main.

How'd a bot get in?

[NotATreoFan]

How'd a bot get in?

What bot? ;) :)

[pedrocandelaria]

Section for the LG Optimus Black, please! Its time for it :)

Sent from my LG-P970 using XDA App

[Step666]

Given there is a thread dedicated to such requests, can't posts like the one above me be deleted or moved out of here?


On a separate note, I suspect this is a question that has been answered before but I can't seem to find to find a thread on it...

Anyone have any idea why I can't download files attached to posts on here?
Every search I do, all the results seem to revolve around e-mail attachments.

[DaveShaw]

Section for the LG Optimus Black, please! Its time for it :)

Sent from my LG-P970 using XDA App

Err... http://www.xda-developers.com/android/lg-optimus-black-forums-added/ ???

[dfgas]

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[dfgas]

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[the_scotsman]

I've just had a quick look over the Mesmerize forums, and they look clean to me. Can you point out some specific problems?

Also, the moderator, Jerdog, is still around as normal.

[ehoba]

are we getting a new moderator for mesmerize section or what? It was said this problem would be delt with and here we are with our sections all clustered up AGAIN. i have a pm saying that he wasn't paying attention but we will start paying more attention now.


I second this. There is way to much BS going on in our forum. If you need someone to keep an eye on the mesmerize forum that can keep a level head. I would be happy to do if for you guys. If not me then just PLEASE find someone from the from the mesmerize forum to help enforce the rules and keep the clutter down.

Thanks
Ehoba

[the_scotsman]

I second this. There is way to much BS going on in our forum. If you need someone to keep an eye on the mesmerize forum that can keep a level head. I would be happy to do if for you guys. If not me then just PLEASE find someone from the from the mesmerize forum to help enforce the rules and keep the clutter down.

Thanks
Ehoba

Again, if you can provide a link to some specific issues, this may help us identify the problem.

[dfgas]

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[dfgas]

comment has been removed by me

[Step666]

We have been merging them into a single thread in Off Topic as we come upon them. If you want to post any that we miss, they will be dealt with swiftly.They've even started appearing out in the sticks (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156542)...

[the_scotsman]

i refuse to report everything to jerdog, if he doesn't want to do what he is supposed to do then make one of us a mod, or find one that can do it. I see that you cleaned it up but its no help anymore. sick of this.

As the report post form states, there is an option to report a post again, if a mod has not responded to a PM. If you use this, it helps us identify any issues.

[dfgas]

comment has been removed by me

[boborone]

Well aren't mods supposed to look through them every so often? not when I/we complain in here?

Take a look at the nook color general. It looks more like a q&a. No mod ever looks in there. I can't find any general threads in there. Now that's bad.

[boborone]

What bot? ;) :)

That was fast. Still curious, though. Dun dun dunnnn

[TonyG916]

read and understood

[dfgas]

comment has been removed by me

[boborone]

XDA is sad. I am done with them till they get moderators that give a damn. Make me a moderator and I will show them how it is done.



Hold on right there man. This place is big and needs alot of attention. Not just from the mods but from us. Since the new report system, we in captivate section have taken a more active role in policing our own forum ourselves. Calling out bad threads, calling out noobs, pming mods, ect. It's really gone back to how it was when I first started. No one puts up with bs cause we care about to stand up. We don't wine about it and not follow protocol and break the chain of command. If you see a problem, there are steps you need to take to rectify the situation. Follow those as mentioned earlier and a record will be set. One that can be looked upon and the necessary actions will be taken.


Edit
I wasn't calling out any mod in nc forum earlier. I hope this post makes it clear how I feel about members and their role here.

[dfgas]

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[boborone]

Whats the point of having moderators if we are doing their job. Kind of useless to me. Its not hard for them to stop in once a week or every other week and do a little house cleaning. for flaming and junk like that, I understand that is our duty to report that. However for the threads that are in the wrong place they can stop in and clean it up. Its not that hard. its not like they have 1 mod taking care of all the threads. They are not going to be overwhelmed with stoping in once in a while.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=263

try it out:cool:

[dfgas]

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[boborone]

lol, as many times as I have bitched about this, it would never happen probably plus it is closed, but I would totally do it.

They have an opening again and I am there.

Just got on my computer, and saw your signature. I think that's pretty petty and childish to have that up here on xda. Maybe you leaving wouldn't be such a bad idea. IMO, we don't need members whose actions speak to the detriment of this community. Thank you for your time here. Good luck elsewhere.

[dfgas]

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[dfgas]

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[NotATreoFan]

lol, well when something is poorly moderated and administered I bet you would leave too.

How is it childish? I am a dev and just letting my followers know that we are leaving. Not sure why you think its childish. Its not like I said in my sig that this is the gayest place on earth and everyone should boycott it. No I would not do that. I did this because I am leaving and if you want to know where I am then That is where my roms and stuff will be posted. So please explain how it was childish of me to do that.

XDA is a very popular thread and I do refer people here all the time. It is a great place to send people to. It just sucks because we have to do the moderators jobs. I am sure I will check posts on here all the time.

While I appreciate your concern for your home forum, please refrain from berating moderators in an open forum. We are all volunteers and do not get paid for what we do. Most of us have full time jobs/school, and therefore may only be able to visit XDA 2-3 times a week for any length of time.

Sending a PM is ideal because it guarantees your message will be seen. As a member of the Moderator Committee, let me assure you that every forum moderator reviews their PM's on a regular basis. If you have concerns regarding the performance of your assigned moderator, please PM a member of the Moderator Committee or MikeChannon, the forum administrator.

Lastly, I see no issue with your signature. Except for maybe the punctuation, but that is the English major in me.

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[dfgas]

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[Blackwatch89]

hi dont know if im in the right place but i need a moderator to move my thread the the themes and app section of the x10 forum as i have accidently posted it in the dev section. my thread is

(W.I.P) (MOD) Arc Style Music App for Achotjans ROMS. ARCMUSICMOD V1 V1

thanks

[boborone]

I would like a mod to talk to via pm about a situation please.

[supermandroid]

My only request is to be able to post in the dev forums before getting a post count of 10. I really like being able to talk to the corresponding dev in the ROM I just downloaded.

[cajunflavoredbob]

My only request is to be able to post in the dev forums before getting a post count of 10. I really like being able to talk to the corresponding dev in the ROM I just downloaded.

Four more posts and you will be able to do so. You are always able to help out other users in the General/Q&A sections. Why not post in there and help some other users out for a while. If you do not feel like you could comfortably do so, then perhaps you would prefer to simply post your questions in one of those sections for someone else to correspond with.

[diversificationied]

You guys need to prevent people from posting new threads if they have less than 100 posts or so, but allow them to post anywhere(unlike that asinine 10 posts for dev sections).

This will greatly reduce drive by threads, and also increase participation in existing threads.

And get rid of the individual sub APP forum for every device! It's android! Apps being device specific are the exceptions not the rules. This will cut down on duplicate threads for things like ADW/Rom Manager/ETC.

The problem on XDA is not the members, it's the structure of the forums themselves.

[NotATreoFan]

I would like a mod to talk to via pm about a situation please.

I'm here if you wish.

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[boborone]

I'm here if you wish.

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10charmander

[CatInTheHat422]

I'll keep it short and sweet :D

I was wondering if the mod's were planning on adding a section for the new Droid 3. Would really love to see it!

Thanks in advance

[diversificationied]

Hey mods look a thread that's in the wrong place AND mislabeled:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145632

[Step666]

Yet another Google+ thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162833) that needs dealing with...

edit: and another one (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162359).

[Step666]

This (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144108) thread and this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162767) thread shouldn't be in the General section.

[diversificationied]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1147643

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148136

If you guys want help with moderating I'm willing to help. I've been on xda for years. =)

I'm at my desk the majority of the day.

[saifbechan]

Hi,

vBulletin has a 'Who quoted me?' Mod. Is this option already available maybe? If not, could this be added, with this feature people can easily see who quoted them.

I asked this already in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168567

Thank you.

[cajunflavoredbob]

Hi,

vBulletin has a 'Who quoted me?' Mod. Is this option already available maybe? If not, could this be added, with this feature people can easily see who quoted them.

I asked this already in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168567

Thank you.

This is a pretty good idea. I think someone has already asked before if we could get a notification when we are quoted like we do when a PM is received. It would really help to follow conversations. I know we can subscribe to threads, but when you are subscribed to 100 or more active threads, like I am, it can be a bit difficult to follow conversations. Being notified of quotes would be a nice improvement.

On a side note, are you guys planning to implement a +1 button for G+ along with the FB like and Tweet buttons?

[diversificationied]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148136

Another invite thread "hiding" in the main xoom forum.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1164535

[boborone]

As far advertising goes on XDA, what are the official rules for having names like mystupidblog.net or comebuymystuff.org? Not names I've seen here, but screen names that are the name of a website are becoming more prevalent. Then you get the ones that are like ihazspamhere[dot]douche and such. So I know that if names like that aren't allowed, then the only way to combat that is for us to report it to you. And finally, don't know why this wouldn't be allowed, senzmelolcats@idiot.wetod, but is there anything wrong with users using email addresses as a screen name? It might, might not, be their email. I just see stupidity and/or malice. But idk, been wondering these things for a while, finally posting them.

[Rebellos]

Reposting 3rd or 4th time.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1124803

Forum related to request:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=920
Notice big mess about android mixed with bada stuff.

Please make separate subforum for http://code.google.com/p/badadroid/ project
The problem is, it is not for all bada devices, but only for S8500 and S8530, with almost no chance to support other Wave models in future.


I'm getting sick of all Android Questions threads in Bada section, just because DEV and TUT thread about badadroid exists there.

[boborone]

You guys might want to move this thread to Android Themes and apps. More exposure and more appropriate place.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1165004

I also submitted it for the portal.

[3xeno]

Another G+ Invite Thread on the main Wildfire Forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169176

TIA :)

EDIT: And a blatant example of someone spamming to circumvent the 10 Post rule. (Check his first 10 Posts)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4002592

[boborone]

As far advertising goes on XDA, what are the official rules for having names like mystupidblog.net or comebuymystuff.org? Not names I've seen here, but screen names that are the name of a website are becoming more prevalent. Then you get the ones that are like ihazspamhere[dot]douche and such. So I know that if names like that aren't allowed, then the only way to combat that is for us to report it to you. And finally, don't know why this wouldn't be allowed, senzmelolcats@idiot.wetod, but is there anything wrong with users using email addresses as a screen name? It might, might not, be their email. I just see stupidity and/or malice. But idk, been wondering these things for a while, finally posting them.

No word from any mod on this?:confused:

[the_scotsman]

In general, we have no real problem with people using urls or emails as usernames.

[boborone]

In general, we have no real problem with people using urls or emails as usernames.

Ok, thanks. Just been wondering, and thanks again for the response.

[oskie09]

Is it possible to have a sub-forum for the Viewsonic Viewpad 7 device? Please? Thanks in advance! =)

[fireslayer26]

We need a Toshiba Thrive forum!!! This thing has the potential for greatness!!

[fredjones1uk]

Hi i have been locked out of forum created by mapman because i don`t have 10 posts how can i get 10 posts if i am locked out.
I need to let mapman know about his app crashing on my HTC wildfire after recent update. How do i do this.

Regards Fred

Hi could you unlock me to access mm tracker forum started by mapman as i have a question about recent update to mm tracker which caused my HTC wildfire to force close,

Thanks Fred

[nikon120]

The natives seem restless in the Epic 4G forums. Is there an active moderator designated to that device forum?

theimpaler747 was a good and active moderator for a while, but it seems he's been gone for the most part.

[diversificationied]

Hi i have been locked out of forum created by mapman because i don`t have 10 posts how can i get 10 posts if i am locked out.
I need to let mapman know about his app crashing on my HTC wildfire after recent update. How do i do this.

Regards Fred

Hi could you unlock me to access mm tracker forum started by mapman as i have a question about recent update to mm tracker which caused my HTC wildfire to force close,

Thanks Fred

Problem: You need to make 10 posts before you can post somewhere.

Solution: Make 10 posts, then you'll be able to post somewhere.

[github]

Hello,

There seems to be some confusion here, and probably need a moderator to step in before this gets out of hand.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176343

This seems to come up every now and then, and perhaps more emphasis on the subject should be made in a sticky?

Anyway, thank you.

[cajunflavoredbob]

Hello,

There seems to be some confusion here, and probably need a moderator to step in before this gets out of hand.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176343

This seems to come up every now and then, and perhaps more emphasis on the subject should be made in a sticky?

Anyway, thank you.

Goodness, gracious, that is quite a thread. Does no one read the forum rules anymore. Hosting off site is perfectly fine. You just need to have 1500 posts and the site needs to not compete with XDA. Pretty simple, no?

[github]

Goodness, gracious, that is quite a thread. Does no one read the forum rules anymore. Hosting off site is perfectly fine. You just need to have 1500 posts and the site needs to not compete with XDA. Pretty simple, no?

Yup. I guess the thread got moved, and now this user is posting direct links (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176758) to their works without their permission. /facepalm.

Thank you for the response, I knew something wasn't right.

[cajunflavoredbob]

Yup. I guess the thread got moved, and now this user is posting direct links (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1176758) to their works without their permission. /facepalm.

Thank you for the response, I knew something wasn't right.

NotATreoFan just closed that thread and he started up another one (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15808835#post15808835). I think he may be violating rule 2.3 by inviting the flame war to begin.

You guys just don't hand out vacations like you used to. :)

[NotATreoFan]

NotATreoFan just closed that thread and he started up another one (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15808835#post15808835). I think he may be violating rule 2.3 by inviting the flame war to begin.

You guys just don't hand out vacations like you used to. :)

Call me NATF, NotATreoFan was my father's name. :p

And don't worry... we're working on it.

[pulser_g2]

Someone say vacation? : p

No the rules are fine on posting off site. Heck, I keep my stuff on a page off site, in order for more than one person to be able to edit it... (can't do that on XDA)

I think NATF has this covered for now

[boborone]

Someone say vacation? : p

No the rules are fine on posting off site. Heck, I keep my stuff on a page off site, in order for more than one person to be able to edit it... (can't do that on XDA)

I think NATF has this covered for now

Not gonna call anyone out but what about hosting at code.google? It's not a forum or dev hosted site. I know a couple teams that do that. Can leeway be given for that for the 1500 rule?

[pulser_g2]

Not gonna call anyone out but what about hosting at code.google? It's not a forum or dev hosted site. I know a couple teams that do that. Can leeway be given for that for the 1500 rule?

That isn't falling under those rules afaik...

google code is more like a file hosting site, say megaupload or rapidshare...

[boborone]

That isn't falling under those rules afaik...

google code is more like a file hosting site, say megaupload or rapidshare...

Cool. Didn't see why it would be a problem. Not a competing site and it takes a load off XDA's servers.

[Step666]

In wrong section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177052).

[DaveShaw]

In wrong section (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177052).

Moved.

Dave

[diversificationied]

Rude asshat:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15822721&postcount=5

[sberendt1]

Cannot change sound settings in Kobes Honeybread while playing music. Forces close. When changed with headphones sound quits. Have to force close. With the speakerphone change to surround. It also stops playing sound and forces close.

[searzy8]

Hello,

While I have had an XDA account for a while, I have only began posting in the last few days, so please excuse my request (if it has been asked already) - I unsuccessfully searched this thread, so I don't know if it has been asked...

My request is:

a Forum for Noobs (complete noobs - with no programming background) who would like to learn how to cook.

Yes, there are MANY tutorials found on the site, however they are at times difficult to understand, and hard to arrange as "steps".

Possibly this forum would have an "apprenticeship" feature.
The person wanting to be an apprentice can post an application requesting to learn, while listing for what purpose they would like to learn, and listing whatever skills background they currently posses.

Willing devs can then view the apps and decide who (if any) they would like to mentor.

Hopefully, the mentor would provide much appreciated guidance, and be able to answer (have the patience to answer) their questions.


As smartphones become more popular, the amount of "noobs" will continue to grow, and not all of them have the same level of programming knowledge.



Another idea I would like to propose is a forum where the services of devs can be contracted.
Again, the contractor would post an application stating for what purpose they would like to employ a dev for, then the dev can evaluate whether the purpose is for commercial gain, or personal use.

HOWEVER

I understand that this idea would conflict the principles of which this site was created for.

Maybe, devs who are willing to work could list if they are a member of a formal contracting website, such as Freelancer.com / .ca, and the request could be formally made there instead.


Hopefully, my ideas are worth discussing and possibly exploring.

[cajunflavoredbob]

Cannot change sound settings in Kobes Honeybread while playing music. Forces close. When changed with headphones sound quits. Have to force close. With the speakerphone change to surround. It also stops playing sound and forces close.

Why did you post this here? This is why we have that ten posts rule. It's because new users - not all, but most - are far less likely to READ than anyone else. We aren't here to listen and troubleshoot your problems. This is a development website, not a support website.

Hello,

While I have had an XDA account for a while, I have only began posting in the last few days, so please excuse my request (if it has been asked already) - I unsuccessfully searched this thread, so I don't know if it has been asked...

My request is:

a Forum for Noobs (complete noobs - with no programming background) who would like to learn how to cook.

Yes, there are MANY tutorials found on the site, however they are at times difficult to understand, and hard to arrange as "steps".

Possibly this forum would have an "apprenticeship" feature.
The person wanting to be an apprentice can post an application requesting to learn, while listing for what purpose they would like to learn, and listing whatever skills background they currently posses.

Willing devs can then view the apps and decide who (if any) they would like to mentor.

Hopefully, the mentor would provide much appreciated guidance, and be able to answer (have the patience to answer) their questions.


As smartphones become more popular, the amount of "noobs" will continue to grow, and not all of them have the same level of programming knowledge.

Ummmm... I thought we already had a forum for this. Am I mistaken? Chef Central (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=611)

Another idea I would like to propose is a forum where the services of devs can be contracted.
Again, the contractor would post an application stating for what purpose they would like to employ a dev for, then the dev can evaluate whether the purpose is for commercial gain, or personal use.

HOWEVER

I understand that this idea would conflict the principles of which this site was created for.

Maybe, devs who are willing to work could list if they are a member of a formal contracting website, such as Freelancer.com / .ca, and the request could be formally made there instead.


Hopefully, my ideas are worth discussing and possibly exploring.

Probably won't happen. XDA is about free sharing of thoughts and ideas. That's why the paid apps section has its own separate little corner. In this situation, it would be better to PM a dev for assistance or ask in the chef central or device specific app forum.

[StephenT]

I searched and this seemed to be the best place to post this request.

When I created this forum account i used a gaming handle by habit, but it would make more sense for me to use a Real Life related username (related to google + account)

If possible could you rename the Zefariath username to StephenT

Thanks,

Stephen

[NotATreoFan]

I searched and this seemed to be the best place to post this request.

When I created this forum account i used a gaming handle by habit, but it would make more sense for me to use a Real Life related username (related to google + account)

If possible could you rename the Zefariath username to StephenT

Thanks,

Stephen

Please send your request to MikeChannon or Egzthunder1 via PM.

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[searzy8]

Ummmm... I thought we already had a forum for this. Am I mistaken? Chef Central (http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=611)


Yes, I have researched A LOT on that forum, but it's intended more for someone who has some knowledge of programming / cooking, and is looking to begin cooking.

It's not for the COMPLETE noob.

IF there was a "complete noob" thread within that forum, then I would be more successful at understanding what is taking place. (to try on my own).

[nziaad]

knowledge of programming is always useful and a must for cooking a rom

[cajunflavoredbob]

Yes, I have researched A LOT on that forum, but it's intended more for someone who has some knowledge of programming / cooking, and is looking to begin cooking.

It's not for the COMPLETE noob.

IF there was a "complete noob" thread within that forum, then I would be more successful at understanding what is taking place. (to try on my own).

If you want to learn how to do basic programming, then you are on the wrong site. I don't say this to be rude, but there it is. Cooking requires some proficiency in programming, and general technical know how that I seriously doubt anyone on here would want to troubleshoot with you. You have to understand that this site isn't meant to be a support or teaching website. It's main function is as a development website. If you want to learn to cook, then go into Chef Central and read some of the guides that are already there. If you have questions, FIRST SEARCH for the answers. If you don't find the answers, then post that question in a thread, or, if no thread matches your question, create a thread with your question. I can personally guarantee you that if you show the other developers that you are willing to do the leg work and do the work yourself without expecting to be hand served every answer, users will bend over backwards to not only answer your question, but also to make you as welcome as possible in the community.

The bottom line, man, is that you have to go in there prepared to do some work. That's what makes a chef great in the first place. The self-taught cooks are usually the best. And again, I know this post came off harsh, but I didn't mean it that way. You just can't expect everyone to simply hand it all to you. You have to do the work too.

[searzy8]

I know this post came off harsh, but I didn't mean it that way. You just can't expect everyone to simply hand it all to you. You have to do the work too.

I appreciate your feedback. NO, you don't sound "harsh", you're just being upfront. I do not how what level of programming is needed to cook, but I did assume that SOME knowledge is a MUST.

Sometimes when reading threads; some Chefs make it "sound" easy, which it MAY be (for the experienced programmer).

Honestly, I do not have an extensive programming background, apart from VBA, a bit of Visual Basic, and a bit of C++. I have not done any serious programming since school.
Programming never appealed to me only because; you type away a code for hours, only to "see" something small happen.


ANYWAYS...

Thanks for your feedback it's much appreciated. I have posted a "hire" request in the general forum, hopefully there is a Chef willing to help me.

[Bandage]

Please! We're needing a Motorola Photon Forum!! Other sites are already was ahead of XDA in this regard...I'd much rather stay here in XDA community!!

The device comes out in one week...would appreciate attention to this request.

Thanks in Advance!

[Verbal Assassin]

This would be appreciated

[cajunflavoredbob]

I appreciate your feedback. NO, you don't sound "harsh", you're just being upfront. I do not how what level of programming is needed to cook, but I did assume that SOME knowledge is a MUST.

Sometimes when reading threads; some Chefs make it "sound" easy, which it MAY be (for the experienced programmer).

Honestly, I do not have an extensive programming background, apart from VBA, a bit of Visual Basic, and a bit of C++. I have not done any serious programming since school.
Programming never appealed to me only because; you type away a code for hours, only to "see" something small happen.


ANYWAYS...

Thanks for your feedback it's much appreciated. I have posted a "hire" request in the general forum, hopefully there is a Chef willing to help me.

I still think if you have questions or are uncertain about something, you should ask in Chef Central. There are tons of devs who wouldn't mind helping you out. We all have to start somewhere, after all.

[boborone]

I still think if you have questions or are uncertain about something, you should ask in Chef Central. There are tons of devs who wouldn't mind helping you out. We all have to start somewhere, after all.

Just wanted to second that. I've seen two mods have to learn Android after coming from WinMo. Just goes to show, everybody here is learning. Nobody minds helping people learn. It's the spoon feeding that nobody likes. As long as you show that you're putting in the effort, anybody here will help you, I guarantee it.

[cajunflavoredbob]

Just wanted to second that. I've seen two mods have to learn Android after coming from WinMo. Just goes to show, everybody here is learning. Nobody minds helping people learn. It's the spoon feeding that nobody likes. As long as you show that you're putting in the effort, anybody here will help you, I guarantee it.

Exactly. Well put.

[boborone]

You guys might want to move this thread to Android Themes and apps. More exposure and more appropriate place.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1165004

I also submitted it for the portal.

Just wanted to let this be known again. No response from it before.

[Step666]

This (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3391080) user has been making useless posts to reach the 10 post threshold.

They're not out and out spam but they're not particularly useful either, as he's simply repeating what other people have said or making non-contributory comments, such as this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15934820#post15934820) post and this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15934825#post15934825) post.

[zylandros]

I know the mods said in the opening post that they cannot create forums but, can ask the admins on our behalf. That said, may I pleas request a Lenovo K1 Ideapad forum? I know of several users, including myself who are using it and there has been much discussion regarding them in the Galaxy forum here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177125&page=4)

Thank you in advance.

-Z

[FloatingFatMan]

A few things.

First, the assigned mod for the Acer Iconia A500 forums appears to be AWOL. The dev section is a mess, obsolete topics are stickied and their replacements not (such as the current working root thread), and generally he doesn't look like he's been very active lately.

Second, can we please have a Questions & Answers section in the A500 area? There are a lot of users spamming the wrong area (mainly dev), and a Q&A area would make life way easier.

Finally, can we have a separate A501 development sub-forum? A500 roms do not work right on the A501 and if there's any development for the latter is just going to get buried in the A500 stuff.

[DaveShaw]

A few things.

First, the assigned mod for the Acer Iconia A500 forums appears to be AWOL. The dev section is a mess, obsolete topics are stickied and their replacements not (such as the current working root thread), and generally he doesn't look like he's been very active lately.

I've asked if someone can help out, madnish is busy in real life at the moment. He hopes to be back by Wednesday.

Second, can we please have a Questions & Answers section in the A500 area? There are a lot of users spamming the wrong area (mainly dev), and a Q&A area would make life way easier.

There are > 10k posts and 1k threads in the general forum, so I don't see why not. Flagged to the admins.

Finally, can we have a separate A501 development sub-forum? A500 roms do not work right on the A501 and if there's any development for the latter is just going to get buried in the A500 stuff.
I have also flagged this for the admins to look into.

Dave

[FloatingFatMan]

I've asked if someone can help out, madnish is busy in real life at the moment. He hopes to be back by Wednesday.

There are > 10k posts and 1k threads in the general forum, so I don't see why not. Flagged to the admins.

I have also flagged this for the admins to look into.

Dave

:) Thank you very much! I figured madnish had some RL stuff going on as it's not like him to go AWOL, but we do need someone to step in meantime.

[DaveShaw]

:) Thank you very much! I figured madnish had some RL stuff going on as it's not like him to go AWOL, but we do need someone to step in meantime.

I've asked for some people to assist, I can't because I'm busy in RL too, just keeping on top of my subscriptions is enough ;) (oh, and I don't know android :D).

Dave

[Nainus Dextrous]

With respect to the XDA Pantheon,
I'd like to request a section for the G-Slate, a remarkable device that I've successfully rooted but have yet to find a custom rom for.
Much love

[jkmcrm18]

I agree to adding. A G-slate thread.

Sent from my LG-V909 using XDA Premium App

[cajunflavoredbob]

Sorry guys, I have a couple of requests today. The first one is to close and clean a thread. The thread is relating to the HTC Peep login issues plaguing the WM Sense UI. One user in the thread keeps posting fixes that no longer work. I would simple like the posts deleted before the thread is closed and sent on its way. I'm still getting regular PMs from users from the last thread on the matter. (This is request #2)

Thread to close. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101151)
- Post to delete. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15769853&postcount=44)
- Post to delete. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15984032&postcount=47)
Also, please remove the quoted portion of these from the posts after them.


Next up is that I need a post edited so I can stop getting PM'd every single day by illiterate noobs. The post is mine, but the thread is closed, so I can't do anything to it. I would actually prefer to have the thread unlocked for a minute so I can make the change, and then have it closed again, if that is possible.

Post is here. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11319041&postcount=13)


Finally, I wanted to report a user's signature.

XDA user - Phrack (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=2548878)

This user has the best signature I've seen in a very long time. It made me smile today. I hope you guys get a kick out of it too. I think this guy wins at the Internet for this. :)

[the_scotsman]

Next up is that I need a post edited so I can stop getting PM'd every single day by illiterate noobs. The post is mine, but the thread is closed, so I can't do anything to it. I would actually prefer to have the thread unlocked for a minute so I can make the change, and then have it closed again, if that is possible.

Post is here. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11319041&postcount=13)



Have opened that thread to let you edit. just reply here when you're done and I'll close it. Will look at the other two soon if I get time (I'm at work :p).

[NotATreoFan]

Have opened that thread to let you edit. just reply here when you're done and I'll close it. Will look at the other two soon if I get time (I'm at work :p).

I got the other ones...


And LOL on the signature.

[cajunflavoredbob]

Have opened that thread to let you edit. just reply here when you're done and I'll close it. Will look at the other two soon if I get time (I'm at work :p).

I got the other ones...


And LOL on the signature.

I honestly didn't expect that to happen so quickly. I'll finish editing once I get home. Thank you both.


EDIT: I'm done, thanks again. :)

[FloatingFatMan]

I've asked for some people to assist, I can't because I'm busy in RL too, just keeping on top of my subscriptions is enough ;) (oh, and I don't know android :D).

Dave

Just wanted to say, a huge THANK YOU mods, for creating the A500's Q&A section. Hopefully, things will be a bit less messy now! :)

[diversificationied]

Just make me a mod, duplicate threads within minutes:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188627

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188296

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1188621

[cajunflavoredbob]

Ok, so this has come up several times before.I just wanted to go back over it in saying that you have enormous community and dev support for this proposed action. Almost every person on this site who has been here for long enough to remember the days before Android was in favor of the ten posts rule. Most of us thought it was too little, but we accepted that we needed to start somewhere.

Now the issue is that, while yes, it has curbed some of the stupid posts, it has also created a load of work and SPAM that we had not seen before. I am coming here today to propose a couple of things that may help to combat this new outbreak of users posting their problems in this site. We have to keep in mind through my proposal that this site is about hacking and development, not please every Tom, Dick, and Harry that breaks his phone because he didn't feel like reading. Without the devs, where would we be?

My first proposal is an obvious one. The ten posts rule was a good start, but I feel it should be raised to 30 at the bare minimum before allowing users to post in ANY development section. Ten posts is simply to simple to circumvent and does not allow the user enough time to think about why this rule is in effect, since none of them seem to read the rules when they sign up anyway.

The next addition would be to have a ten post minimum before the user is allowed to start a thread in ANY forum. All we are seeing now is that the users will post "Why can't I post?" threads and simply reply to everyone who stops in to comment in order to get around the rules. This gets them their ten posts and allows them to do the same spamming in the dev fora.

Finally, I feel that having the posts made in the off topic board not count towards your total post count would be best for everyone. This would dramatically reduce the number of users who simply drift over there, get their ten and then proceed to infiltrate the dev threads without gaining anything from the purpose behind the limit in the first place.

In summation,

1. 30 posts before posting in dev fora is allowed.
2. 10 posts before being able to start a thread.
3. Off topic forum posts no longer count towards the users' post count.

[boborone]

Ok, so this has come up several times before.I just wanted to go back over it in saying that you have enormous community and dev support for this proposed action. Almost every person on this site who has been here for long enough to remember the days before Android was in favor of the ten posts rule. Most of us thought it was too little, but we accepted that we needed to start somewhere.

Now the issue is that, while yes, it has curbed some of the stupid posts, it has also created a load of work and SPAM that we had not seen before. I am coming here today to propose a couple of things that may help to combat this new outbreak of users posting their problems in this site. We have to keep in mind through my proposal that this site is about hacking and development, not please every Tom, Dick, and Harry that breaks his phone because he didn't feel like reading. Without the devs, where would we be?

My first proposal is an obvious one. The ten posts rule was a good start, but I feel it should be raised to 30 at the bare minimum before allowing users to post in ANY development section. Ten posts is simply to simple to circumvent and does not allow the user enough time to think about why this rule is in effect, since none of them seem to read the rules when they sign up anyway.

The next addition would be to have a ten post minimum before the user is allowed to start a thread in ANY forum. All we are seeing now is that the users will post "Why can't I post?" threads and simply reply to everyone who stops in to comment in order to get around the rules. This gets them their ten posts and allows them to do the same spamming in the dev fora.

Finally, I feel that having the posts made in the off topic board not count towards your total post count would be best for everyone. This would dramatically reduce the number of users who simply drift over there, get their ten and then proceed to infiltrate the dev threads without gaining anything from the purpose behind the limit in the first place.

In summation,

1. 30 posts before posting in dev fora is allowed.
2. 10 posts before being able to start a thread.
3. Off topic forum posts no longer count towards the users' post count.

1 & 3 are something I wanted since day one of the new rule.

Now if 3 is retroactive, orb3000 may not like being a noob again.:D jk jk

-Figured i needed a signature for my phone. This is it. I am http://www.mangler.org/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/offline.png

[diversificationied]

Thread starting abilities should require longer time on the forum. I'm talking 100+ posts. You can't spam the forum for a quick thread with this count. This also gives users a change to get acclimate to the forums and know what should be a new thread and what shouldn't.

This will cut down TREMENDOUSLY on forum clutter because drive by threads by accounts that don't really plan on staying here anyway will basically be eliminated. Anything they want to ask will have to at the minimun be contained to an existing thread.

IF someone with a lower post count actually has something worthy of a new thread they should contact a MOD and be vetted and then "jump the line" for thread priviledges.

Require a certain amounts of posts to reply to posts to a certain area is ridiculous. If you can't post somewhere you shouldn't have the ability to even see that forum section. It's an exercise in frustration.

[cajunflavoredbob]

It hardly needs to be said but I totally agree with op's first post

This stupid crap right here is why I suggested these rule changes. This guy is obviously trolling for posts to get somewhere else. Either that or he's a bot. Anyone disagree with me now?!

[conantroutman]

Ok, so this has come up several times before.I just wanted to go back over it in saying that you have enormous community and dev support for this proposed action. Almost every person on this site who has been here for long enough to remember the days before Android was in favor of the ten posts rule. Most of us thought it was too little, but we accepted that we needed to start somewhere.

Now the issue is that, while yes, it has curbed some of the stupid posts, it has also created a load of work and SPAM that we had not seen before. I am coming here today to propose a couple of things that may help to combat this new outbreak of users posting their problems in this site. We have to keep in mind through my proposal that this site is about hacking and development, not please every Tom, Dick, and Harry that breaks his phone because he didn't feel like reading. Without the devs, where would we be?

My first proposal is an obvious one. The ten posts rule was a good start, but I feel it should be raised to 30 at the bare minimum before allowing users to post in ANY development section. Ten posts is simply to simple to circumvent and does not allow the user enough time to think about why this rule is in effect, since none of them seem to read the rules when they sign up anyway.

The next addition would be to have a ten post minimum before the user is allowed to start a thread in ANY forum. All we are seeing now is that the users will post "Why can't I post?" threads and simply reply to everyone who stops in to comment in order to get around the rules. This gets them their ten posts and allows them to do the same spamming in the dev fora.

Finally, I feel that having the posts made in the off topic board not count towards your total post count would be best for everyone. This would dramatically reduce the number of users who simply drift over there, get their ten and then proceed to infiltrate the dev threads without gaining anything from the purpose behind the limit in the first place.

In summation,

1. 30 posts before posting in dev fora is allowed.
2. 10 posts before being able to start a thread.
3. Off topic forum posts no longer count towards the users' post count.

QFT

Sometimes a click of the thanks button just isn't enough.

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....

[meltwater]

Can I put forward a counter point to this argument, even though I wasn't really a fan of the 10 post rule, I can understand it's purpose and that it may have improved things (I appreciate the scale of these things now), so I'm not suggesting it's a bad thing overall.

My concern is this, Xda as far as I understood it, is not intended to be an exclusive club, it is supposed to be inclusive, is it not?

Like it or not, noobs will want to come to the site to do something which they have no clue or idea how to do, the site therefore should facilitate this. Afterall, a noob today can, if shown kindness and direction, grow into a useful member (yes we were all noobs once (wipes tear from eye...)).

The spam comes from the 10 post rule...yes...so upping the limit (or adding more limits) will either make it worse or push people away.

We need to address the questions:
"Why are noobs coming to the site?"
"What is it they are wanting to do?"
"What magical change does making noobs make 10 or more posts really do?"
"How can we ensure that they can achieve their aims, while keeping the forums productive?"

Remember just because people are noobs, it does not mean they are on other sites or that they don't have knowledge or ideas which can help. I agree people need to understand they have to read first, search first, read again and search again, but can you blame people if the answers are not there (I imagine most end up at the site due to a search already). Fortunately the site road map is working on the search, which is a good thing, but not all answers can be found this way since you don't always know the right question.

I imagine at this point, the user thinks well I can simply ask, as long as I do it in the right place and the people who created or use this app/mod/rom/hack can help me it should be fine. So they try to post it on the related thread, but they can't because its a dev thread (and there is no other thread*), do I start my own and ask (which the people who know the answers may not ever see) or do I push my post count up so that I can post where it seems the answer will be given (or worse still...pm the OP!!!).

Clearly we want people who, once helped then go on to help others and so forth (not only creating a better community but allowing devs to develop and members to give support). How we get that emotional investment I'm not sure, but making them not feel wanted probably isn't the right direction.

We could always have a 10 post rule before you can post, that would solve a lot of issues.

*This is why I try to keep a "release" thread and a "dev" thread for projects (with a link between them) which need the "dev" focus, and in this case the 10 post rule does seem to help.

[cajunflavoredbob]

@Meltwater I understand what you're saying, man. I really do. The problem now is that the smartphone world is changing. It isn't getting any better. When I first came to XDA, a ten or thirty post rule would have been unheard of simply because most of us using WM at the time were older and more mature than the groups we see now. I'm not saying that all teenagers are idiots or anything, but it is a different mindset than what used to be on this site. Where a couple of years ago, having one moderator over several forums was plenty, now, I think XDA really needs to step it up to one mod per forum.

XDA needs to make a choice here. Either we recognize that the "develpers" in the site name are the ones we need to protect, or we abandon that mentality and cater to this onslaught of new users who can't even be bothered to do one simple search to find out why they can't make a post in dev yet. The main problem right now is that most of them find this site either through a search as you said, or through a friend who shows off his cool ROM and says he got it from here.

The ten posts rule is having a negative affect to both new users and senior members who have to see them spam stupid posts in order to ask their question. My main problem with this is that 90% of the time, their problem is not unique. The answer could have been gathered from a very simple search. But most new users have a "gimmie, gimmie" attitude where they want their answer and want it now. All they know is that they got their mod, tweak, app, or ROM from here and want it to work while reading as little as possible. They also come here, knowing that this is a giant phone website, wanting to know how to fix a problem that their carrier blew them off over. Well, this isn't a support website. This site is for developers.

The other problem is that perhaps raising the post count to thirty might have the same affect where users will spam until they get to thirty. That's one reason I wanted to remove Off Topic posts from the count. This will keep them from going in there to simply boost there count. Everyone enjoys some time in OT everynow and then, but it has nothing to do with the site, so why should that count in your post total at all? Raising the post count to thirty would also be more of a hassle for users to circumvent. Right now, it takes about an hour to get to ten posts.With all the waiting an posting times, It would be closer to three and a half hours before they could post in the dev section. I doubt most are going to wait that long.

If the new user is a dev wanting to set up shop here, then mods could always allow them to bypass the rules and skip the wait. You have to admit, though, that this site has been loosing focus lately with the explosion of membership. I'm not saying noobs are all bad. I'm just saying that this site wasn't created for noobs. It's here for devs.

[boborone]

The mindset that keeps being brought up, will change this site into adroindforums or modaco. A support site and not a development site. I'm seeing more and more people asking questions about stock phones, no mods, just stock. The notion that this is a support forum is getting way out of hand. Bug reports are now help questions.

-Figured i needed a signature for my phone. This is it. I am http://www.mangler.org/wp-content/plugins/simple-forum/styles/icons/default/offline.png

[Bandage]

I know it's been mentioned several times before...please create a Motorola Photon section. Several of us are getting our phones this weekend, and would rather not resort to moving to another site to communicate about the device.

We'd like the opportunity to share info regarding root process and such together here on XDA.

Thank you once more for your attention.

[cajunflavoredbob]

The mindset that keeps being brought up, will change this site into adroindforums or modaco. A support site and not a development site. I'm seeing more and more people asking questions about stock phones, no mods, just stock. The notion that this is a support forum is getting way out of hand. Bug reports are now help questions.

That is exactly my point. This site is about development, not listening to every single users' problems. I have no issue with helping people, but the general mindset of most new users is one of "give me my answer so I don't have to look for it." They are starting to think that we are simply here to help them out. I'm pretty sick of it. Two years ago, every dev in this forum would have laughed at the notion of a ten posts rule. Now, nearly every single one of them wish it were higher.

As users get less and less experienced with technology and more familiar with the Internet, we begin to see a general shift into chaos as these users come here with no knowledge of forum etiquette or sense of what is generally regarded as polite and constructive behavior. This is obviously not true of every single new member on this site, but the majority of them nowadays are this way. It is those types of users that need to grow up and learn before being allowed to join in a development discussion on a development website.

I know most of the mods I keep in touch with off site are completely for stricter rules. I would really like to know what svetius, egzthunder1, and mikechannon think about the situation. I know you guys remember the glory days of this site as well as I do. Right now, XDA is becoming a joke in other online forums when members feel like there are too many noobs crowding a thread. "It feels like XDA in here." is a common negative phrase I here off of this site. We need to remember and keep in mind that we're here, FIRST AND FOREMOST for the developers. Regular members, myself included, are not the main reason this site has done so well.

[boborone]

That is exactly my point. This site is about development, not listening to every single users' problems. I have no issue with helping people, but the general mindset of most new users is one of "give me my answer so I don't have to look for it." They are starting to think that we are simply here to help them out. I'm pretty sick of it. Two years ago, every dev in this forum would have laughed at the notion of a ten posts rule. Now, nearly every single one of them wish it were higher.

As users get less and less experienced with technology and more familiar with the Internet, we begin to see a general shift into chaos as these users come here with no knowledge of forum etiquette or sense of what is generally regarded as polite and constructive behavior. This is obviously not true of every single new member on this site, but the majority of them nowadays are this way. It is those types of users that need to grow up and learn before being allowed to join in a development discussion on a development website.

I know most of the mods I keep in touch with off site are completely for stricter rules. I would really like to know what svetius, egzthunder1, and mikechannon think about the situation. I know you guys remember the glory days of this site as well as I do. Right now, XDA is becoming a joke in other online forums when members feel like there are too many noobs crowding a thread. "It feels like XDA in here." is a common negative phrase I here off of this site. We need to remember and keep in mind that we're here, FIRST AND FOREMOST for the developers. Regular members, myself included, are not the main reason this site has done so well.

Your last point was pounded hard back in the day. I saw a lot of "contribute or don't post" posts. Thanks were ok, but hardly ever did you see a question about procedures in the dev threads. Now, I see thread titles where the op has to specifically say [DEVS ONLY]. Before joining XDA, I had been a member of several automotive forums. I can tell you, the noob tolerance here is way beyond what is needed in a forum. The flaming that goes on in other types of forums is much harsher than the "wrong section" posts here that get construed as trolling. It's people from the spoonfed tribe that are joining and the (please don't take offense to this) overly compassionate admin staff that will be the detriment of this forum. Niceness can take you far in life. But it can ruin an organized community. People will never learn from slaps on the wrist.

I see tons of members that have been here for over two years and have less than 200 posts. They still have the mindset of contribute or don't post. New members nowadays, make 1k posts in a couple months. They have never been a member of a forum and have even heard of contribution period.

Honestly, I think the admins are trying to be nice and that, in my opinion, is not the way to run a development forum. We should be to androidforums what ODRA (Outlaw Diesel Racing Association) is to cumminsforums. Modding vs support. None of us joined cause we having problems or wanted to learn about our phones, support. We joined cause we wanted to mod it and make faster, better, and like no other.

-Figured i needed a signature for my phone. This is it......

[diversificationied]

You guys are coming off rather elitist.

The forum is changing, and it should be embraced. We all know what happens to things that resist change.

[boborone]

You guys are coming off rather elitist.

The forum is changing, and it should be embraced. We all know what happens to things that resist change.

This site used to be elite. All the best came from here. Do you really think Harvard or Yale would benefit in becoming state funded public schools?

-Figured i needed a signature for my phone. This is it......

[cajunflavoredbob]

You guys are coming off rather elitist.

The forum is changing, and it should be embraced. We all know what happens to things that resist change.

I don't mean to sound elitist, but if that's how I need to be, then I accept that label. The focus of this site is listed in the site name "xda-developers." The site got that name for a reason. That's why it isn't called "xda-noobfriendlysupportgroup.com." this site should be for experienced members and contributors. It shouldn't be a forum where people create threads asking how to get T-Mobile 3G on their AT&T phone. I'm sorry, but that isn't the type of community that has kept me her for six years. If a user wants tech support, then let them call their carrier. They pay an obscene amount of money every month for that anyway.

[boborone]

I don't mean to sound elitist, but if that's how I need to be, then I accept that label. The focus of this site is listed in the site name "xda-developers." The site got that name for a reason. That's why it isn't called "xda-noobfriendlysupportgroup.com." this site should be for experienced members and contributors. It shouldn't be a forum where people create threads asking how to get T-Mobile 3G on their AT&T phone. I'm sorry, but that isn't the type of community that has kept me her for six years. If a user wants tech support, then let them call their carrier. They pay an obscene amount of money every month for that anyway.

Amen brother Bob.

-Figured i needed a signature for my phone. This is it......

[TheATHEiST]

@ cajunflavoredbob

I just want to say thanks, You have put into words in your last fee posts what I think exactly and saved me the job.

IMO its simple, Up the 10 post rule to 100 and remove topic creation permission for everybody except recognised developers in the dev sections. Anybody-else simply does not have any business creating topic in them. I know its a big job going through all the forums permissions (especially on a vB based site) but it really need to be done.

We are not gunna stop tech noobs or forum noobs or plain dumbass's coming here but at least we can stop them poluting some areas completley or some areas long enough for them to realise where and how to post.

[cajunflavoredbob]

@ cajunflavoredbob

I just want to say thanks, You have put into words in your last fee posts what I think exactly and saved me the job.

IMO its simple, Up the 10 post rule to 100 and remove topic creation permission for everybody except recognised developers in the dev sections. Anybody-else simply does not have any business creating topic in them. I know its a big job going through all the forums permissions (especially on a vB based site) but it really need to be done.

We are not gunna stop tech noobs or forum noobs or plain dumbass's coming here but at least we can stop them poluting some areas completley or some areas long enough for them to realise where and how to post.

I'm glad I could help. Although, I would have to argue about restricting the dev forums so heavily. I'm no developer, but I have two threads in my sig that link to very valuable topics which actually belong in the dev section. One of them is actually a sticky of a list of the ROMs in the Rhodium section that contains a "how to flash" section. The other is a benchmark guide of SYS builds for WM that several chefs use (or at least used to).

On an unrelated note, how do you like your Tab? I was thinking about grabbing a used one on the cheap to play with.

[juzz86]

That is exactly my point. This site is about development, not listening to every single users' problems. I have no issue with helping people, but the general mindset of most new users is one of "give me my answer so I don't have to look for it." They are starting to think that we are simply here to help them out. I'm pretty sick of it. Two years ago, every dev in this forum would have laughed at the notion of a ten posts rule. Now, nearly every single one of them wish it were higher.

As users get less and less experienced with technology and more familiar with the Internet, we begin to see a general shift into chaos as these users come here with no knowledge of forum etiquette or sense of what is generally regarded as polite and constructive behavior. This is obviously not true of every single new member on this site, but the majority of them nowadays are this way. It is those types of users that need to grow up and learn before being allowed to join in a development discussion on a development website.

I know most of the mods I keep in touch with off site are completely for stricter rules. I would really like to know what svetius, egzthunder1, and mikechannon think about the situation. I know you guys remember the glory days of this site as well as I do. Right now, XDA is becoming a joke in other online forums when members feel like there are too many noobs crowding a thread. "It feels like XDA in here." is a common negative phrase I here off of this site. We need to remember and keep in mind that we're here, FIRST AND FOREMOST for the developers. Regular members, myself included, are not the main reason this site has done so well.

I 100% agree with this, Bob. As you know :)

While I can't comment on what's happening in fora outside XDA, I am very much aware of the shift that has occured here in the past year or so. As you mentioned, this no longer feels like the Development forum it used to; instead we must wade through X pages of useless thanks, banter and flames to find the true gems.

I believe this is in part due to two main things: 1) The users of these devices are getting younger, and less technically adept (not that they go hand-in-hand by any means, it's just much easier to buy a pretty smartphone these days); and 2) the majority of users have no real concept of 'development'.

I have seen countless posts in development threads requesting features, saying thanks, posting issues, asking for zip files etc. I am sure that more than some of these posters actually believe that requesting a feature, or reporting an issue, counts as 'development'. Perhaps a clear, black-and-white definition of 'development' should be made available somewhere, after liasing with Developers and Administration to determine exactly what development means to XDA.

I may be alone, but I don't view 'thanks' or 'my sound doesn't work' or 'can I have...' as development. Development is 'audio wasn't working for me, looked through your code and found a reference to X which was called at the wrong time - may be worth fixing'. It's the technicalities, not the niceties.

At the end of the day, the useless posts and inconsiderate/illiterate/impatient users will not stop. I have a couple of ideas in mind which I'd like to put forward, and hear comments or criticism for - after all, this is just my thoughts, and they're a long, long way from Gospel:

1) Limit thread-creating abilities with a post count. Immediate uproar from newer users, immediately less clutter evident each day.

2) Raise post count for Developmental fora. Ten isn't enough. It's still far too little effort to spam ten threads and then post junk in Development forums. Thirty minimum.

3) Restructure of 'X OS Development' fora. This is an idea I've been toying with mentioning for a while, and I think it has some good potential. When a Developer posts a new ROM, they should create a thread with three or four posts for their own use (as normal - OP, changelog, download links, tweaks etc.), then immediately close it. There goes the first X pages of 'omg can't wait', 'downloading now', 'FIRST!!!11!!one' etc., plus all the other junk usually seen in a ROM thread. When a ROM is created, two new threads could be started in Q&A, one for '[Q&A] X ROM Discussion' and one for '[BUG TRACKER] X ROM'. We can still thank (with the button only) and donate in the original thread, we can quickly scan the known bugs (bullshit in this thread would still be evident - no doubt) in the Bug Tracker, and whatever thanks need to be voiced, or requests need to be made, or questions asked, can go in the Q&A thread - it's still removing all the junk from the Development areas.

I'm all for helping the little guy get his phone working, absolutely. I'm dead-set against the little guy having no concept of the community, waltzing in and demanding his fixes/features etc without so much as having a look around, doing a quick search, or helping someone out while he waits for his post count.

Again these are just ideas and I'd appreciate any input from all members, junior and otherwise.

Let's do what we can to preserve the spirit of the XDA of old, while making it attractive and easy for the new members among us (who aren't complete fools).

[boborone]

juzz86 hits on point that has gotten way out of control with the developers themselves. The structure and control of their own threads. Look in WinMo and you see at a glance in development what version of WM the ROM is, what the name of it is, and the last update date. Look in any Android dev forum here and you have no clue what any of the pertinent information is. That is unless it's from an old dev like pulser_g2. I think an across the board thread naming system would go a long way in cleaning the development section, too. Make the mod's job easier in dev and make it easier to navigate.

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[cajunflavoredbob]

Ok, those were some really good ideas. I am really glad I'm not alone in this way of thinking. A set standard of naming threads would be amazing! For as long as ROMs have been created, WM devs have pretty much all settled on a standard way of naming threads. They aren't all the same, but it's at least similar enough to compare different ROMs. The main thing is that when you go into a WM dev forum as a new chef, you can see how everything else is organized and pick up on it from there. I've seen a few chefs come in and out of the forums I monitor and do this.

As for the other ideas, the only one I'm skeptical on is the one about having three threads open for one ROM. I really like the idea, but I think the practice of it would be more clutter. I would change it slightly to suggest that their be a Q&A thread to go along with the main ROM thread in dev. The ROM thread would be the main bug tracker thread, where only users with at least thirty (most older members would push for more than that) posts can comment. Ten is obviously too low as we're seeing SPAM posts increase because of it.

I made this point before about the amount of time it takes a new user to post nonsense in the dev fora. From the time a user signs up, it only takes about an hours to post the question in dev. If the post count goes up to thirty, then the time frame rises to about three and a half hours after sign up minimum. Personally, I wouldn't mind waiting one single hour to post my senseless comment/question/oral bowel moment, but I would definitely hesitate at spending 3:30 of my time in order to get an answer. This increase would force them to either search or actually waste their own time posting garbage.

It may not seem like much of a difference on the outside, but this would have the same effect as seeing commercials on TV for the same product, but one is priced at $19.99, and the other at $20. Most people would go for the $19.99 one because of their perception of value. It is the same principle applied here. A person's perception of what is worth their time decreases inversely with the nature of the dilemma over X amount of time. This means that over time, if their problem is great enough, that user will invest said time into either finding their solution on their own, or, if it is severe enough, they will stick it out to the end. This lets us know that it was actually worth their time to get through the post limit.

Now, you may ask, what about people who get to that limit and then are allowed to post freely? Well, the plan, just like the original intent of the ten posts, is that the user will have spent that time wisely learning about the forum. This is where my other suggestions come into play. The other thing that limits this is that OT posts do not count for squat. OT is a fun place to hang out, but, let's be honest, it has nothing at all to do with the forum's subject matter, and should, therefore, not count in the requirements set forth. This completely defeats the purpose of setting a post limit of any sort when users can simply get around it by posting about things unrelated to the subject matter that we are trying to get them to understand.

The other part of the plan was to restrict the creation of threads in dev only until the user gets at least ten posts. I feel that restricting the ability of threads creation globally is too strict. This is a two edged sword. Restricting posting in the dev fora is the intent behind most of our problems. If the new users are asking questions in the proper fora, then who are we to say nay? Yes, it is annoying to see the same question asked over and over, but this teaches them where to put their questions in the first place. Perhaps ten posts is too little, though, for restricting thread creation.

I think everyone agrees that the ten posts rule was a good start. It's time this site got back to its roots. Yes, we are beginning to serve a different set of users than "back in the day," but the focus of this site has not changed. If the momentum continues to build in the direction we're going, the site is going to continue to loose several devs to other sites as we are currently seeing.



EDIT: I really wish some mods/admins would join in this discussion.

[juzz86]

This is what I was after, Bob. Thankyou.

The set naming standard is a big push in the right direction. I love that, mostly, I can head into a Development thread, look for [ROM] or [KERNEL] and just jump in straight away, without having to wade through an ambiguously-titled thread to find a gem. It just needs a bit of refinement (and site-wide adoption), and it'll be a winner.

As for my three-thread idea, thankyou for the input. You are correct, three threads is probably overkill, but the idea was to provide somewhere for input that would a) not impact on the Development fora at all, and b) allow for keeping actually important information, such as known bugs, fixes etc. easily trackable and separated (to some degree). The Q&A thread is totally optional, and is pretty much there only to function as a drop-off point for thanks, requests and other threadcrap. I think actually stopping the crap posting - without some form of totalitarian control (banning thread creation in Development, for example) - will be nigh on impossible, so we're just going to have to 'accomodate' it in a manner that doesn't impact on the quality output of the Developers.

In my eyes, Development fora should be a place for providing software, providing source code and mods/scripts only. There should be little general discussion there (an exception, perhaps, is the discussion of bootloader bypasses etc. - although this can easily go in Q&A).

You're on the money in other areas too, I think. The idea of making spamming such a 'physical', time-wasting effort will, I think, be the most effective method of combating it. It's all in the psychy, and that's the easiest way to limit this type of behaviour.

Again, this is good. And yes, would be interesting to hear what Administration have to say :)

[boborone]

Iirc the intent of the ten post rule was to gauge the outcome over time and make necessary changes after an undetermined time period. Can here and now be that time? Can we as members who respect this site please have some changes?

In truth, all I want new members to get from this site is what I got when I first joined. I read the site for about 3 months before I got my first phone on here. Then I read for another couple months afterwards. As cfb stated, I saw developers in the name of the site and thought I couldn't join cause I wasn't one. But, there were people on here that I saw who weren't developing but were contributing in other ways. Said I can do that. But as turned out, most every rom and app that I tried had the bugs or problems already posted. How did I know that? I saw people get reamed by devs for posting and not reading. Everyone joined in and nobody was told to lay off. People learned not to post unless they were contributing to the discussion. My first post was helping a guy out with his psp, getting it hooked up to his phone. Told him about dl's from MS that would have his phone emulate a server and get it done that way. I respected the dev area, knew what general was for and had it clearly laid out for me what my role as a non dev here is. To help them. And in turn, they would show us what our phones are really capable of.

I got from joining this site that it is first and foremost a developer community. When you join, you are expected to contribute or not speak. There are plenty of tools to help you teach yourself how to do it, all you have to do is look around and search. You will get help learning, but do your own troubleshooting. You fixing my problem is taking you away from learning and modding.

Basically, it boils down to contribute or don't post. That's all I want new users to get from the start.

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[cajunflavoredbob]

This is what I was after, Bob. Thankyou.

The set naming standard is a big push in the right direction. I love that, mostly, I can head into a Development thread, look for [ROM] or [KERNEL] and just jump in straight away, without having to wade through an ambiguously-titled thread to find a gem. It just needs a bit of refinement (and site-wide adoption), and it'll be a winner.

As for my three-thread idea, thankyou for the input. You are correct, three threads is probably overkill, but the idea was to provide somewhere for input that would a) not impact on the Development fora at all, and b) allow for keeping actually important information, such as known bugs, fixes etc. easily trackable and separated (to some degree). The Q&A thread is totally optional, and is pretty much there only to function as a drop-off point for thanks, requests and other threadcrap. I think actually stopping the crap posting - without some form of totalitarian control (banning thread creation in Development, for example) - will be nigh on impossible, so we're just going to have to 'accomodate' it in a manner that doesn't impact on the quality output of the Developers.

In my eyes, Development fora should be a place for providing software, providing source code and mods/scripts only. There should be little general discussion there (an exception, perhaps, is the discussion of bootloader bypasses etc. - although this can easily go in Q&A).

You're on the money in other areas too, I think. The idea of making spamming such a 'physical', time-wasting effort will, I think, be the most effective method of combating it. It's all in the psychy, and that's the easiest way to limit this type of behaviour.

Again, this is good. And yes, would be interesting to hear what Administration have to say :)

We've suggested the idea before when the ten posts rule went into effect that devs should start two threads. The idea never took and no one really spread the word on that one. It is a very good idea to have both threads open. My view on it, though, is that bug tracking seems to me to be actual development talk. Whereas, "tnx," "+1," "it dont work," and other nonsense should be in a Q&A thread. This gives experienced users one consolidated place to flame newbies. (kidding, or course) :p

I also encourage an other members following this thread to spread the word about this discussion to anyone else you might know who has a viewpoint. It doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with what I think. I would hope that rational debate is possible here. I'm always open to ideas and suggestions. I just want this to be the premier and respected site it once was. It really set me off the other day seeing just how many other forums view this site as a joke now, more or less.

[boborone]

We've suggested the idea before when the ten posts rule went into effect that devs should start two threads. The idea never took and no one really spread the word on that one. It is a very good idea to have both threads open. My view on it, though, is that bug tracking seems to me to be actual development talk. Whereas, "tnx," "+1," "it dont work," and other nonsense should be in a Q&A thread. This gives experienced users one consolidated place to flame newbies. (kidding, or course) :p

I'm going to call out a mod on this one. Zelendel was not the captivate mod at time, but was devving on it. He took it upon himself to make a sticky in the q&a for each rom we had at the time and announce it's creation in the respective dev thread. That severely cut down the noob questions in dev and went a long way to cleaning up our dev area. Now every new rom for the captivate has a q&a and a theme rollup. Very nice over there.


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This is a public thank you to guys who have modded the captivate forums. The last two we have had are/did do a great job. Mr Clown had alot on his plate and still ran through responding to pm's for forum cleaning. conantroutman comes in and does it himself without any prodding. Zelendel closes and mod edits postings anytime he sees something. Members have slowly learned what is and isn't acceptable. It's organized and getting healthy. Honestly, I have no complaints over the modding of the area I most frequent. The subtleties of the area members are what is the problem. Most, if not all of the traits have been discussed. That may be the way to change this place. Like the "surge" in Afghanistan. Just some heavy heavy moderating needs to be done for a few months. Implement some board wide changes and with an old school attitude, enforce the hell outa the principles of this place.



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[juzz86]

We've suggested the idea before when the ten posts rule went into effect that devs should start two threads. The idea never took and no one really spread the word on that one. It is a very good idea to have both threads open. My view on it, though, is that bug tracking seems to me to be actual development talk. Whereas, "tnx," "+1," "it dont work," and other nonsense should be in a Q&A thread. This gives experienced users one consolidated place to flame newbies. (kidding, or course) :p

I also encourage an other members following this thread to spread the word about this discussion to anyone else you might know who has a viewpoint. It doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with what I think. I would hope that rational debate is possible here. I'm always open to ideas and suggestions. I just want this to be the premier and respected site it once was. It really set me off the other day seeing just how many other forums view this site as a joke now, more or less.

I agree. Tracking the bugs does aid development. The issue I see is that if we allow bug tracking in the original ROM thread, nothing's going to change. People will still post useless shit, still in a development forum, still in a ROM thread. Everyone defines a 'bug' differently, and one man's bug may be another man's bullshit.

At least if we move it, it prevents the clutter in the areas we need least cluttered. It doesn't completely remove the problem, but it does remove it from the problem area. As pretty much anything goes in Q&A, policing could (hopefully) become a bit simpler also, as mod's won't be getting PMed to remove junk from Development threads, or flames, or whatever. Take a quick walk through the Q&A threads when you get the chance, wipe out anything that's blatantly offensive or against the rules, move on. There'll be more threads, but the forum-specific moderation will only have to focus on one area.

When I first began frequenting XDA, I watched member after member after member get slaughtered by every single person in a Development thread for posting shit. We can't do that now without treating someone 'unfairly', so we have to find an alternate method. Clamping down on Development, while expanding the options in Q&A is but one way to go :)

[boborone]

I agree. Tracking the bugs does aid development. The issue I see is that if we allow bug tracking in the original ROM thread, nothing's going to change. People will still post useless shit, still in a development forum, still in a ROM thread. Everyone defines a 'bug' differently, and one man's bug may be another man's bullshit.



That's were devs need to step up again and set their own bug report format in the first few posts like they used to.



When I first began frequenting XDA, I watched member after member after member get slaughtered by every single person in a Development thread for posting shit. We can't do that now without treating someone 'unfairly', so we have to find an alternate method. Clamping down on Development, while expanding the options in Q&A is but one way to go :)

Yep, that was policing and keeping the place clean. Not flaming. That goes with the new user group thinking this is a support site and not a modding community.


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[boborone]

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1191081

That right there. Right freaking there! Really? That's what populates this community now. People who start threads like that and people who tolerate it.

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How you change the members who are already here is anybody's guess. But something must be done to change the new comers that will join. Maybe the old guys spurred by fear within the newest ones can change those in the middle. Idk


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[boborone]

I urge anyone who has frustrations about anything here to please read this thread.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=873276

It's our own little running gag of what's going on here. It was even published in the portal. Believe me, read it through. You will laugh undoubtedly out loud.

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[juzz86]

That's were devs need to step up again and set their own bug report format in the first few posts like they used to.



Yep, that was policing and keeping the place clean. Not flaming. That goes with the new user group thinking this is a support site and not a modding community.


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God forbid we have to introduce a 'Support' forum.

Also, nice find on that Cappy mod. Do you have it in a CWM zip I can flash?

[boborone]

Edited post 2244 for thanks to captivate mods and adding an idea on the board.

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