Widcomm stack on HTC Wizard

[emiltamas]

Is it possible ?! I know it's been asked before but I hope that someone has new answers...as others, I get this error:
"The Bluetooth Radio failed to turn ON due to insufficient driver memory available. You must perform a normal reset before you can turn ON the Bluetooth Radio."

I tried everything, I even f*cked up my MS stack (which is shitty btw).
It must be some registry setting(s) something related to the maximum memory allocated to drivers in WinMobile...

Thanks guys

[baramuse]

up!

exaclty same problem...

trying to change bt stack because of the poor sound quality on A2DP using the MS one...

[kyphur]

I would recommend you do some more searching. This has been tried already and nobody has been able to ever get it working on the Wizard.

[baramuse]

I am :D

perhaps by "tunning" the Ms a2dp dll...
Seems that only the encoding part is bad...

[Menneisyys]

I am :D

perhaps by "tunning" the Ms a2dp dll...
Seems that only the encoding part is bad...

Strange some peopel reported "high quality" with the Wizard A2DP. I've never managed to fine tune it to reach the quality of my other A2DP-capable PDA's. See my remarks and the hacks I've tried in my A2DP-related articles.

[baramuse]

ok i've read your articles.

Seems everything's possible if you have a widcomm stack...
The poor guys stuck with MS one can just cry until some clever guy releases a compatible version for theire pda (S200 for me)..
I've tried almost every stacks, hard-reseted a thousand times my prophet, no one seems to work :(
As I'm interested by the P3600 I've sent a mail to the HTC guys just to know with which stack will it be coming....

If you have any lead...... I'll the first to explore it :D

I'm a developer in a french company but I don't to that kind of dev so I wiosh I could try to find a solution myself but I doubt...

[Menneisyys]

ok i've read your articles.

Seems everything's possible if you have a widcomm stack...
The poor guys stuck with MS one can just cry until some clever guy releases a compatible version for theire pda (S200 for me)..
I've tried almost every stacks, hard-reseted a thousand times my prophet, no one seems to work :(
As I'm interested by the P3600 I've sent a mail to the HTC guys just to know with which stack will it be coming....

If you have any lead...... I'll the first to explore it :D

I'm a developer in a french company but I don't to that kind of dev so I wiosh I could try to find a solution myself but I doubt...


Did you try disabling the MS BT stack similar to as is described in the AximSite thread? It's not done exactly the same way (because, then, the x50/x51 hack would work on these HTC devices too), "just" similar to it.

[baramuse]

Did you try disabling the MS BT stack similar to as is described in the AximSite thread? It's not done exactly the same way (because, then, the x50/x51 hack would work on these HTC devices too), "just" similar to it.

You suggest me to disable the MS bt stack "the HTC device way" and then try to install the widcomm one like on other devices?

[Menneisyys]

You suggest me to disable the MS bt stack "the HTC device way" and then try to install the widcomm one like on other devices?


Kinda. I really recommend the "original" AximSite thread - there, you MAY find out how the MS BT stack can be disabled so that the driver memory is freed up. (The case was the same on the Dell when we started the Widcomm project.)

[baramuse]

backup ok!
let the tests begin !!

I'll keep in touch :D

[baramuse]

hummm

I've blanked my S200
desactivated MS BT stack ==> 26mo of free ram at this point
installed the stack from axim site
same memory error...
I don't think it's a "real" memory problem but it is clear that the problem comes from the initialization part...
Just a thought but:
Dell AXIM, XDA atom, BlueAngel, ... => the devices on which the stack works have got a common caracteristic : the CPU : XScale one...
On the other side, the prophet, the magician, the wisard,... => the devices on which everything seems correct with the widcomm stack but still refuses to start it, avec an OMAP CPU...

Perhaps it's a newbie reflexion, perhaps it has nothing to do with it... but perhaps the initalization process has some CPU specific routine...

Still investigating, still newbie in the pocketPC environement :$

[Darkrift]

Sounds pretty good for a newbies speculation. I was reading about this (randomly scanning thru all topics) and wondered how much memory exactly did you gain by removing the bt stack? I dont even use BT (might get a headset, but prob not) and if its worth the memory gain, I might try to disable it myself.

[peetking]

hummm

I've blanked my S200
desactivated MS BT stack ==> 26mo of free ram at this point
installed the stack from axim site
same memory error...
I don't think it's a "real" memory problem but it is clear that the problem comes from the initialization part...
Just a thought but:
Dell AXIM, XDA atom, BlueAngel, ... => the devices on which the stack works have got a common caracteristic : the CPU : XScale one...
On the other side, the prophet, the magician, the wisard,... => the devices on which everything seems correct with the widcomm stack but still refuses to start it, avec an OMAP CPU...

Perhaps it's a newbie reflexion, perhaps it has nothing to do with it... but perhaps the initalization process has some CPU specific routine...

Still investigating, still newbie in the pocketPC environement :$

i've read a lot about widcomm bt on wizard, and i found the following :
the original ms bt stack calls msusbhub dll, which means that bt in HTC devices uses usb to get connected, and the widcomm stack tries to connect to an internal serial port.
conclusion : widcomm stack can run on OMAP, but we have to write a wrapper between usb and the internal serial port.
anyone can do that ? / i am not enough experienced, in ppc development, not even in driver dev.

[Operation619]

The Wizard contains a TI BT RF front-end no? Anyone know the part number?

[Menneisyys]

Read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&title=widcomm_bluetooth_stack_for_the_htc_wiza&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1