Clear type in Lanscape mode...how to make it stay?

[kittiyut]

When I enable clear type in landscape mode by editing the registery :
Changing the value of HKLM\System\GDI\ClearTypeSettings\OffOnRotation from 1 to 0 it works BUT only for a while, then it reverts back to 0 and
I don't have clear type when I pull out the keyboard. Does anyone know how to make it stay? (it worked in the wizard without any problems)

Thanks.
Ken

[Lurker0]

I use nScriptm freeware from www.s-k-tools.com and a simple script. I made a shortcut in the startup folder to run this script w/o showing the console window.

BTW the same script sets PIE cache size to 4096MB for me - a value that is reset every boot as well.

[athiqueahmed]

Easy peasy...why make things harder

Download TwkCL from here...

http://www.tweaks2k2.com/portal/staticpages/index.php?page=2005022517002183

or if you can't just searchfor it.

Place it in your Windows - Startup folder.

Select it to run it, nothing will happen but it HAS ben enabled.

Then you simply soft-reset your device.

Et Voila! You have Cleartype always enabled in landscape mode.

[Ingvarr]

It wouldnt work properly anyway... MS Cleartype counts on horizontal orientation of R-G-B triplet in LCD matrix, it can not do "vertical subpixel rendering", only horizontal.
So if you forcefully enable it in landscape, it would smooth text in perpendicular direction, making it more blurry instead of actual resolution enhancement.

[athiqueahmed]

Actually it works perfectly...the text looks EXACTLY the same either way.

Been using it ever since I had my JAM.

[Ingvarr]

It doesnt. Surely, you see the difference, but only in Portrait it actually works as intended. In Landscape you get same result youll get if you grab a screenshot from Cleartype text and rotate it - if you'll read how cleartype actually works, you'll understand that this would obliterate the main idea of it.

Even MS said that numerous times. The only advantage you get in landscape is "smoother" fonts, but that came with drawback of reduced sharpness and also more visible "color outlines" on letters (while in portrait when cleartype works as intended sharpness is not reduced and color outlines is a lot less visible).

Read this article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleartype
It would help you to undestand the mechanics of it.

[kittiyut]

I actually found the answer to my own question. For the TyTN, you have to change HKLM\System\GDI\ClearTypeSettings\ROTATION\Landsca peMode from 1 to 0 and it'll stay. It works. No need to load any programs in the startup folder.

Ken

[sutheep]

I can't find it, there's cleartypesetting and rotation, not rotation undercleartype.

Please clarify

[Sleuth255]

Actually, don't you mean change the HKLM/System/GDI/ClearTypeSettings/ROTATION value from 0 to 1? ClearType will be on in landscape mode then.

@Ingvarr: you are correct but it still looks better when ClearType is enabled IMO

[Ingvarr]

@Ingvarr: you are correct but it still looks better when ClearType is enabled IMO

I guess its up to personal preferences... Iam very color sensitive, I guess thats why I cant bear visible color smudges at fonts edges in landscape :)

[athiqueahmed]

I've just used Magic SS to take screenshots of each and it looks the same even after a side by side zoomed in comparison down to the last pixel.

It looks the same to me. Maybe I'm losing it.

[ChaoticDruid]

I actually found the answer to my own question. For the TyTN, you have to change HKLM\System\GDI \ClearTypeSettings \ROTATION\LandscapeMode from 1 to 0 and it'll stay. It works. No need to load any programs in the startup folder.

Ken

Hi, does this actually stay for you?, I had that set awhile back, and it would revert to the oem settings after a few soft resets or shutdowns.

I also like cleatype in landscape on, I do understand why its off by default, but I guess its really up to ones own prefrences, I changed the system font, and the cleartype makes the font look much better, It could possibly be that I need to up the font size.

Just a tip..if anyone decides to play with the system font, put the font in your windows directory, not the fonts folder, maybe everyne else already knew this, but I used the fonts folder at first...and it worked, but caused glitches.

Sorry to ramble off topic for a bit.

[kittiyut]

No, I do mean change the value from 1 to 0
If it is at 1, Clear Type would not be enabled in Landscape mode
If it is at 0, Clear Type WOULD be ENABLED in Lanscape mode

Ken

Actually, don't you mean change the HKLM/System/GDI/ClearTypeSettings/ROTATION value from 0 to 1? ClearType will be on in landscape mode then.

@Ingvarr: you are correct but it still looks better when ClearType is enabled IMO

[shugoh]

This doesn't work for me.

At first, I made the new key as kittiyut instructed because there was no key in defalut:
HKLM/System/GDI/ClearTypeSettings/ROTATION/LandscapeMode and set its value to 1
But this didn't work anything.

And then, I changed registries as follows and it seems OK before I soft-reset with stylus.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GDI\ClearTypeSettings]
"OffOnRotation"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GDI\ROTATION]
"LandscapeMode"=dword:00000000

But after stylus reset, OffOnRotation=1 comes alive again.

I think TwkCL is the only solution for Hermes now.

[Ingvarr]

I've just used Magic SS to take screenshots of each and it looks the same even after a side by side zoomed in comparison down to the last pixel.

It looks the same to me. Maybe I'm losing it.

Well, thats exactly what is wrong - you see, you take screenshots, that doesnt capture actual micro-lamp layout on your LCD screen - and this is what ClearType uses to actually _enhance_ resolution. To correctly see it, you should take _photos_ of screen :)

Read the Wikipedia page, you'll understand it :) It it would work properly, landscape one would be different from portrait - in landscape LCD triplets go in "vertical" way relatively to the text, while in portrait they go in horizontal way relatively to the text.

[ChaoticDruid]

This doesn't work for me.

At first, I made the new key as kittiyut instructed because there was no key in defalut:
HKLM/System/GDI /ClearTypeSettings /ROTATION/LandscapeMode and set its value to 1
But this didn't work anything.

And then, I changed registries as follows and it seems OK before I soft-reset with stylus.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \System\GDI \ClearTypeSettings]
"OffOnRotation"=dword :00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \System\GDI\ROTATION]
"LandscapeMode"=dword :00000000

But after stylus reset, OffOnRotation=1 comes alive again.

I think TwkCL is the only solution for Hermes now.

the correct tweak is HKLM/System/GDI /ClearTypeSettings and setting the onoffrotatation dword from 1 to 0

I myself just realized after your post that the key people had been changin doesn't exist, and it hadn't been mentioned to create one...no wonder people were sayin they couldn't find it, and it will revert back to 1 after a few resets anyhow, like you mentioned.

[Sleuth255]

After much gnashing of teeth and fudging around with registry settings, I agree that TwkCL in startup seems to be the only way to get ClearType in landscape mode currently....

[Termiter]

But none of these solutions does not work with AKU 3.3...

Edit: Works, works,... Need to
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \System\GDI\ROTATION] "LandscapeMode"=dword :00000000
and copy TwkCL to startup.