Extracted radio ROM v1.20.31.10 from new jasjam ROM

[pof]

I extracted the radio version 1.20.31.10 from the imate jasjam 1.31.305.2 rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280207) using Asukal's method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278428).

You can find the radio upgrade only and upgrading instructions on the Hermes Extracted Radio ROMs wiki page (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms).

Remember:
- screen will show "Upgrade Radio Stack Please wait........."
- after finishing flashing radio you will see an "Upgrade Error", but the radio ROM will be flashed anyway
- no need to hard reset after upgrading the radio, only soft reset with stylus when upgrade ends.
- upgrade at your own risk, i take no responsiblity for anything that happens to you, your Hermes, your marriage, etc.

[Bacco]

This sucks...I followed the directions to the letter and now I'm stuck on the windows mobile screen.

It seems that when it soft-rest, right above the D1.18 (on the bottom center on the screen) NO GSM appears for a few seconds then disappears.

[shark1]

i have exactly the same problem, it just sits at the windows mobile screen.
i am going to do a hard reset to see if that helps

[piopawlu]

too bad :/ I was just about to upgrade my radio rom with that.. thx for the notice.

[Bacco]

Hard-rest doesn't help. I think the issue is NO GSM...the phone doesn't know what to do. And, not being able to activesync, I can't do anything else.

[torklemm]

Had the same problem.
Put the device in Boottloader mode (left OK & Power & reset), and loaded Radio 1.16.
Workes !
Probably something went wrong during extracting 1.20 Radio.

[pof]

oops... sorry guys, i will remove the upgrade inmediately... it worked on my hermes, will try to flash an older rom an try it again! Those who are stuck on windows mobile screen do what torklemm says: flash radio 1.16

[Bacco]

That's what I'm trying to do now, I just hope it works.

Thanks.

EDIT: Can't seem to get it to see the phone via activesync. Unable to flash anything at this point.

[shark1]

I am going to give that a try now, will update with the results

[pof]

EDIT: Can't seem to get it to see the phone via activesync. Unable to flash anything at this point.

You do not need activesync, disable activesync usb connections, put the device in bootloader mode and start the flash utility (ma_upgrade_noid) from 1.16 radio upgrade.

[Bacco]

You do not need activesync, disable activesync usb connections, put the device in bootloader mode and start the flash utility (ma_upgrade_noid) from 1.16 radio upgrade.

Tried that pof, all is get is "checking the info on your device and don't disconnect, etc" and nothing more. A few minutes later it shows the screen detailing the PPC radio and ROM versions and the radio version that I'm trying to install, but everything is blank. I say yes anyway and it just sits on the "checking the info on your device and don't disconnect, etc" screen forever.

That's why I thought something wasn't right w/o activesync. I'll try again.

EDIT, again: I'm now trying the Cingular 1.13 radio...that seems to be installing. Pray for me guys :)

EDIT 2: Yeah, I get the same error as you shark1

[shark1]

I get an error stating this utility is not design for this device please get the correct update utility

[l0rdsheva]

i have the same problem On boot i see "NO GSM". Now my tytn doesn't boot and also when i try to reload 1.16 radio it stucks... I'll try with 1.13...

1.13 don't go it say it's not designed for my device... o__O
now i'll try 1.11 same problem...

[pof]

I'm uploading a "hopefully" fixed version on ftp (again, it worked on my hermes from 1.16 to 1.20), do not download it yet until I finish uploading... (17% now) i will edit this post and let you know when it is finished.

EDIT: Upload finished!

[shark1]

POF: OK i will wait, hopefully that will work, at present I will try 1.11 as others are trying 1.13

I get the same update error with 1.11

I have try to find my old phone, so I can make calls

[Bacco]

Ok, now I'm totally confused. In bootloader, I don't see USB on the bottom anylonger. if I unplug my USB cable, I see serial...but I can't seem to do anything to get USB recognized again.

Why did I do this???

EDIT: Rebooted everything!

[rmaat]

Hi all,

got the same problem. Phone in bootloader and can't go back to 1.16 or lower..... hope the new 1.20 will work :confused:

[l0rdsheva]

Hi all,

got the same problem. Phone in bootloader and can't go back to 1.16 or lower..... hope the new 1.20 will work :confused:

i hope to... or i think that our only way is c.a.

[Bacco]

I'm uploading a "hopefully" fixed version on ftp (again, it worked on my hermes from 1.16 to 1.20), do not download it yet until I finish uploading... (17% now) i will edit this post and let you know when it is finished.

EDIT: Upload finished!

pof, please clear the not yet :)

[l0rdsheva]

also this radio have the same problem; not designed for this device... and now?

[Bacco]

also this radio have the same problem; not designed for this device... and now?

Where did you get it? The link isn't active yet.

[l0rdsheva]

here, on the ftp; i'm able to download it...

[shark1]

I will try the fixed, if that does not work, then I will have to try the bootloader upgrade from sd card.

It did not work, so I have try and format my sd card

[l0rdsheva]

how? I've searched on the wiki but i'm a little bit confused. I'll try once again, if doesn't work i'll go to sleep...

Bye

[pof]

On the 1st file I uploaded, there was an error: when I extracted the GSM.nb file from imate's nbh upgrade i forgot do nbh2dbh first, I noticed it and fixed it on my desktop, but I messed the files when I zipped it, sorry!!!

This means that the signature wrapper was not removed from the NBH file and the resulting GSM.nb used to create the radio_.nbf was corrupt.

The file now in FTP should be OK, but those of you who upgraded your radio with the corrupted file have screewed the radio part of your device, this is the same that happens when people uses HTC Universal unlocker on HTC Hermes, hopefully this can be fixed but I need feedback from you guys:

- Look at "problem 5" on Upgrading Problems wiki page (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeProblems)
1) Please confirm if the hard reset without pressing spacebar and then softreset method boots the WM5 OS again
2) if it does, try upgrading to the new radio 1.20 (or 1.16 if you prefere something "more tested") using activesync
3) if it does not boot the os, then use the 'HERMIMG.nbh' sd-card flashing method (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_SDCardFlashing) and report if it fixes your radio
4) if all the above does not work and radio is still screewed, we would need to know what exactly kimbay did here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280228) or why torklemm was able to flash 1.16 as he said on comment #6 in this thread.

@torklemm and kimbay, if you read this please answer the following questions:
- Which CID does your hermes have?
- Which ROM (and radio rom) did you have on your device when you fixed the problem.
- Which bootloader version

I'm really sorry for the troubles, and hope we can find a way to fix it soon!!

[Bacco]

pof,

- Look at "problem 5" on Upgrading Problems wiki page
1) Please confirm if the hard reset without pressing spacebar and then softreset method boots the WM5 OS again

That step didn't work. I had tried it way before.

I tried flashing the old QTEK rom and that isn't working either.

Wonder how kimbay got his device to be recognized by activesync...reason I say that, is that the QTEK rom stops because of the lack of activesync connection.

[shark1]

Pof,

1 and 2 did not work, I am trying 3 now, i will update if that works

It does not get pass the checking it looks like I have a brick now.

[Bacco]

It works!!!

Ok, this is what I did:

In activesync I enabled USB connection.
While in bootloader I tried installing the Qtek ROM, also about 3 or 4 times.
One of those times, it worked and loaded.

I now have a working TyTN again.

For the life of me, I don't know what made me upgrade the radio.

[pof]

I now have a working TyTN again.

Glad to hear that :D

Some questions for you too Bacco:

1) Which device do you have, HTC TyTN (HERM200) with QTEK_001 CID?
2) Which rom did you use, HTC TyTN WWE 1.18.255.3 with the same CID as your device??
3) Which ROM where you running before? which radio rom where you upgrading from? which bootloader version?

[Bacco]

Glad to hear that :D

Some questions for you too Bacco:

1) Which device do you have, HTC TyTN (HERM200) with QTEK_001 CID? YES
2) Which rom did you use, HTC TyTN WWE 1.18.255.3 with the same CID as your device?? YES
3) Which ROM where you running before? which radio rom where you upgrading from? which bootloader version? 1.03.03.10

I hope it works for everyone else. Thanks God for Sprite backup too. My TyTN is as it was a few hours ago. I just have an extra grey hair now :)

[shark1]

I will try to run the update many times to see if it works for me.

It does not work for me as I don't have the original rom

[Bacco]

Sorry, I was so excited to have it back I neglected to answer 2 Qs,

I used the same ROM I had on the phone before, I'll post the bootloader after I'm done syncing with my exchange server.

[Bacco]

I will try to run the update many times to see if it works for me.

Good luck shark1, keep trying it until it works.

[shark1]

I am lucky I have 2 tytn but the other is at work and was going to sell it now I will not be able to until a original rom comes out.

[pof]

Sorry, I was so excited to have it back I neglected to answer 2 Qs,

I used the same ROM I had on the phone before, I'll post the bootloader after I'm done syncing with my exchange server.

It's ok, it was a 1.04 as you did not modify the original rom.

@shark1 and others:
Use a rom matching your CID if possible with Bacco's instructions on comment #28. I don't know if the CID has something to do, but it might help.

[Bacco]

Under the bootloader screen:

HERM200
IPL-1.00

Herm200
SPL-1.04

[eagle 1]

I got the radio upgrade to work finally. Had a few problems, but it worked.
I first tried to update using windows vista tablet and it would not work. Got the wrong device error and then a 150 error.

and pda stuck on bootloader screen

Rebooted into windows xp and tried again. Upgrade failed first time as usual, tried again and it finished. But stuck in windows mobile screen after reset. Reset again and now everything works great. The radio seems to connect right away.

I have an HTC Tytn (HERM200) CID QTEK_001 (Serial 628F...)
Rom : 1.18.255.3
Rom Date: 05/30/2006
Radio Ver: 1.20.31.10
Protocol: 32.52.7020.00H
Ext.Rom 1.18.255.105

[nelsonlye]

Upgraded Successful on my Dopod 838Pro

Rom:1.23.707.4
Radio: 1.20.31.10

hehe.....

[goestoeleven]

Got it on my TyTN, too. Still trying to determine if it's any improvement...

[batt]

Update went ahead normally excepting finish - instead of congratulations discovered notice: error. On display TyTn white screen and notice: wait. After 5 minutes am performed reset and new radio road is OK.

[hdubli]

Hey Pof, can't we use the wizard technique to flash a ROM keeping SPL/IPL same..since u hv ROM parts now..or via SD card with a ROM image which doesnot hv a newer IPL/SPL..am talking about the CE ROM and not Radio ROM

[aquanaut88]

Upgrade worked on CHT9000 running English dopod ROM from radio v1.16.
Cheers

[torklemm]

just upgraded with the fixed Radio 1.20.
The flash process when amazingly fast ! only like a couple of minutes instead the usual ~20 min. Bootscreen says 1.20, but Device Information still says 1.16, so not sure what I have now.

Anybody else with that ?

UPDATE:
Did run the fixed 1.20 MaUpgradeUt_noID again, and it says it want to upgrade from 1.16 to 1.20, but then it's stuck at 'Upgrading radio. Please wait...' it bums out after a couple of min with an error. Must be the same as before, I just didn't pay attention about the process bar, and thought it's done. So basically it didn;t flash at all.
Not sure why my bootscreen says Radio 1.20, maybe from the 1st attempt with the bad 1.20.

UPDATE 2:
ok, just to be on the save side, I rebooted my PC, and tried the fixed 1.20 update straight from Bottloader more, but with the same as above, no data get's transmitted, and it bums out after a couple of min. So either the fixed 1.20 is still bad ;-), or I caught something with the initial bad 1.20, that blocks it now. Anyway, can life for the moment with 1.16, and will see what others report.

UPDATE 3:
Solved!
Ok, finally got fixed Radio 1.20 loaded.
Did a SPB backup, loaded my original i-mate 1.20.305.3 ROM WWE ROM. That got me back to Radio 1.07. Restored my SPB backup, so got all my stuff, data and settings back. Went into Bootloader mode, and now it accepted fixed Radio 1.20.
Done :-)

FYI
I'm still running the original i-mate 1.20.305.3 ROM, with bootloader 1.04, kinda happy with it, so don't want to go through the hassle of hard reset, and reloading all my stuff.

From before when I was stuck with the bad 1.20, I was able to get back to 1.16 through bootloader mode. I initially got stuck trying that as well, as nothing happened when running MaUpgradeUt_noID, but after a PC reboot it worked.

[l0rdsheva]

I hope it works for everyone else. Thanks God for Sprite backup too. My TyTN is as it was a few hours ago. I just have an extra grey hair now :)

yesss it works; the only thing i have done different is to leave without battery all night my tytn...

[pof]

Hey Pof, can't we use the wizard technique to flash a ROM keeping SPL/IPL same..since u hv ROM parts now..or via SD card with a ROM image which doesnot hv a newer IPL/SPL..am talking about the CE ROM and not Radio ROM

hdubli: Unfortunately not. We cannot modifiy a rom because NBH files in shipped upgrades are signed with HTC keys we don't have, and when you try to flash something modified the bootloader complains about invalid signature. However the radio ROM is different because to flash it you use 'rwdata' command instead of 'wdatah', that's why the upgrade is done using the old MaUpgrade_NoID and a type II extracted radio: commands to flash radio are the same in the Hermes than in previous htc devices. See the wiki bootloader (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_BootLoader) and NBH format (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_NBH) pages for more info.

[shark1]

I am have got it passed windows mobile screen, so will try to run all roms to see if I can fix it.

I have a second tytn which i can use.

[LinoX]

I did it without any unexpected problems.
(except the "country error code" and the "Update error" at the end)

Thanks, POF

Now.. It would be great to know what they've changed :) in this release

[shark1]

It looks that i am stuck as all the roms stop at 14%.

So I have a brick until a new rom for me comes out I suppose.

I will be the last to upgrade next time.

[hardcore]

Just want to add another successful upgrade.

Hardware - Dopod 838 Pro
ROM - imate 1.20.305.3
Updated from default radio version (1.07.?) to 1.20.31.10 directly.

No problems.

BTW, I once had the same "no GSM" error after upgrading to radio 1.16 then downgrading to 1.13 (the downgrade caused the error). I solved it by simply re-flashing the imate complete ROM again.

[Bacco]

So, is it safe now?

I find my battery runs down very fast and was hopeful a better radio make a difference.

Edit: Just installed and all is well.

[pof]

So, is it safe now?

Should be safe, yes... there are quite a few reports of people successfully flashing the fixed rom... but again, at your own risk ;)

[shark1]

I am very happy I brought 2 devices now as one is toast until a my local rom comes out.

Do you know if you can backup one with some software and restore on the other to fix the rom.

[pof]

Do you know if you can backup one with some software and restore on the other to fix the rom.

Sorry to say that this is not possible :(

Which CID do you have on them?

[shark1]

pof:

i have QTEK_H10, there is no update as yet hopefully before christmas.

[lagoskon]

Another succesfull upgrade from 1.16 to 1.20.31.10 (with the begin and end errors). Device Tytn

[Topogigi]

Ditto. Successfully upgraded from 1.16 radio. Orange M3100 with Imate WWE rom

[steiale]

I downloaded the latest HTC Rom from FTP with the 1.03 Radio. Tried to upgrade to 1.20 but unfortunately it doesn't work. 1.16 doesn't work either.

I start maupgrade. Country ID Error. Start it again and then after 10 minutes it gives the error message that upgrade failed. In between the progress bar doesn't move at all. On the HTC is written that radio upgrad is in progess.

After soft reset 1.03 is still my radio..

Any idea?

[jtritton]

anyone notice any difference from 1.16 to1.20 ?

[Windkracht13]

Noob,

I have a Vario 2 T-Mobile NL, and want upgrade my Radio.

Rom 1.21.114.3
Date 06/20/06
Radio 1.05.02.00

Protocol 32.36.7010.04H

Is it save to do this??? (sorry for my English)

From 1.05.02.00 to 1.20.31.10 SAVE?

MZL

[steiale]

Finally it worked..!!

Had to use another computer..

[piopawlu]

No problems upgrading from 1.07 to 1.20. I got the error, but then it was fine anyway :)

[mixmaven]

So the question is, is anyone noticing a difference with the new radio rom??

Thanks,
-mix

[goestoeleven]

Battery life does seem better than the 1.16 radio. So far I haven't seen any issues (a good thing)

[Topogigi]

I also noticed the battery life improvement.

[DeviLduck]

With the HTC TyTN, I've experimented with most available Eng ROMs & various Ext ROMs or parts of.

Lately, I've been trying out the 1.34 Cingular ROM with the 1.16 Radio. It's ok, but nothing special, as I've consistently had the best results overall with the original HTC/QTEK ROM 1.18 of 7/22/06. (in San Francisco Bay Area, USA) Also, this 1.18 ROM with extracted Cingular Radio 1.16 has performed nicely.

After moving back to QTEK 1.18 original from Cingular 1.34, I was able to apply the extracted Radio 1.20. (going back to bootloader 1.04 of course) All efforts to apply Radio 1.20 to the Cingular 1.34 failed.

Of interest to some of you, none of these ROM changes could be made using Vista RC2.5744 computer, as I had to use an WinXPsp2 computer. (current WMDC works great on Vista & takes the place of Active Sync.)

Radio ROM 1.20 performs terribly in this area...major disconnects on phone & data, UMTS/EDGE transitions a disaster, sound problems, those famous Cingular bars acted like they were at a bowling alley, being knocked all over the place! It wasn't possible to play online chess with the 1.20 radio rom or do anything online without interruptions. All regular phone connections were lousy. Tried at various locations & connection strengths around San Francisco.

After looking further into the 1.20 Radio rom & its Australian vendor ROM base, I found that the entire ROM is problematic & is tweaked for that service vendor. (Telstra) Many complaints abound over this particular ROM, even in Australia.

If you're in USA (with htc tytn & Cingular service), I'd say forget Radio 1.20 & stay with Cingular or HTC/QTEK rom. Cingular radio 1.16 is excellent here too. (It's certainly not worth risking a BRICK to apply this extracted 1.20 radio)

Previously, I found that the QTEK rom on this HTC device also performed better than the latest highly regarded I-Mate roms. So, it looks like for now, I'll stay with QTEK 1.18 (7/22) & Cingular 1.16 Radio rom....until a real htc rom upgrade appears.

Thanks to pof & others for excellent detailed info on how to do the regular rom or extracted rom upgrades/downgrades safely.

[sn00x]

I just updated from 1.16 to 1.20.31.10
All seems to work fine.

[vijay_kumar]

Hmmmm which radio to install there are 3 radio rom there ? Can anybody tell me which one ?

[sn00x]

There are even four :)
This thread is about Radio upgrade only version 1.20.31.10 (type II) fixed (ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Hermes/Extracted_Radio_ROMs/HERM_1.20.31.10_type2_radio_fixed.zip)

[chymmylt]

Of interest to some of you, none of these ROM changes could be made using Vista RC2.5744 computer, as I had to use an WinXPsp2 computer. (current WMDC works great on Vista & takes the place of Active Sync.)

Out of curiousity why are you unable to use Vista? I have not tried upgrading the rom yet but it seems that you could run the upgrade program as administrator in Win XP SP2 compatability mode. I would guess that diabling USB in WMDC acheives the same function as in Active Sync - what makes it so you can not use Vista?

[aquanaut88]

FWIW:
Applied this update over 1.16 on the English dopod ROM. UMTS and 900/1800+2100 works fine in Taiwan. In Korea, switched to UMTS for voice and data, both were reliable. In China (Beijing, Shanghai, Nanjing, and Guangzhou) GSM/GPRS worked great roaming with China Mobile. In Hongkong, changed carrier to CSL.

In my opinion, with all the competing carriers, setting the radio to auto/auto doesn't always yield the most desirable results. I've found the best results when entering a new country is to first correctly set the band, then press OK. After that sets, set Network Selection to Manual and choose preferred carrier -- China Mobile not only has a much better agreement (better roaming rates) with Taiwan Cellular, but also much better coverage for GPRS than China Unicom.

Cheers

[nickcerda]

DeviLduck, couldn't agree more about your rom desicion, I have tried a few different roms, but end up reverting back to the good old HTC original rom within a day or two. I do have a question though, which is the better of the two radio roms for you the cingular or the original HTC? I am also on Cingular, and I was wondering if Cingulars radio rom was tweaked to work a little better with their towers.

[Houz74]

Replaced radio 1.20 with 1.16 because I had the same disconnects with radio 1.20 as I had with the original HTC ROM.

[hardcore]

Warning to those thinking of upgrading to radio 1.20.31.10... it performs very badly! (at least for me)

I am curently roaming in Thailand. After upgrading to radio 1.20.31.10, I could barely connect to the GPRS network, and could not maintain a GPRS connection for long (definitely not when moving). Tried changing between operators - most here have EDGE + GPRS. No matter which operator I chose, all experienced the same problem.

Reverted back to radio 1.11 and GPRS performance was back to normal (i.e. very good! no problems sustaining a GPRS data connection throughout a 40 minute taxi ride along the outskirts).

I am not using radio 1.16 because it had some problems picking up a signal after loosing it (and subjectively I think the battery life is shorter).

Not using radio 1.13 because I had a bad experience flashing it - I had a corrupted radio ROM after flashing 1.13.

Also, notice that the protocol version of radio 1.20.31.10 is actually lower than radio 1.16?

[DeviLduck]

Out of curiousity why are you unable to use Vista? I have not tried upgrading the rom yet but it seems that you could run the upgrade program as administrator in Win XP SP2 compatability mode. I would guess that diabling USB in WMDC acheives the same function as in Active Sync - what makes it so you can not use Vista?

Hello chymmylt,
I have a feeling it's something to do with the fact that WMDC is not the same as Active Sync. Since you suggested it, I will try running in WinXP compatibility mode, to see if that's working. So far, every progy I've tried, that worked with Vista.5744, didn't need compatibility mode. Progys that wouldn't work with Vista, still did not work with compatibility mode. However, I'll give it the old college try! Thanks for your comments.

[DeviLduck]

DeviLduck, couldn't agree more about your rom desicion, I have tried a few different roms, but end up reverting back to the good old HTC original rom within a day or two. I do have a question though, which is the better of the two radio roms for you the cingular or the original HTC? I am also on Cingular, and I was wondering if Cingulars radio rom was tweaked to work a little better with their towers.

Hello nickcerda,
It seems 1.16 works fine with Cingular service on tytn (not 8525) in San Francisco Bay Area, but what is really the newest code? 1.03, 1.11, 1.13, 1.16, 1.20? Who knows? I'd say stay with radio 1.11 & original rom or upgrade to radio 1.16, as that one works ok too. In terms of disconnects, weak signals, etc, I don't think 1.16 solves any major headaches over 1.11. Only an objective hardware test could really sort that out. 1.16 seems to work slightly better near coastal areas.
It's possible the Cingular radio roms are tweaked for their network. I would hope so! Radio 1.20 (Australia) is bad here, but it's also bad in Australia....go figure.

[brucewilsonpa]

Attempted to install Imate Radio on my TyTN with Cingular ROM -- would not accept it -- told me it is not for my country (USA) -- allowed me to reset though, so no residual issue.

[pof]

Attempted to install Imate Radio on my TyTN with Cingular ROM -- would not accept it -- told me it is not for my country (USA) -- allowed me to reset though, so no residual issue.

country id error--- that's probably because you are on bootloader 1.06 :(

[brucewilsonpa]

Yep -- forgot about that -- the latest Cingular ROM installs that bootloader doesn't it. I guess that means I can't install the updated radio version?

[pof]

Yep -- forgot about that -- the latest Cingular ROM installs that bootloader doesn't it. I guess that means I can't install the updated radio version?

I haven't tried myself, i have bootloader 1.04, but i guess the problem is on bootloader 1.06 + MaUpgradeUt_noID checks the country id :(

[sfiorito]

I'm using radio 1.20 on my HTC TyTn on the Cingular network. Reception seems a bit better and it's not just my imagination.... ;) I typically have little to no reception in my basement (even worse with the Wizard) but with the 1.20 radio it gets 2 or more bars. Battery life seems the same, maybe better.

I got the country id error as well (1.06 bootloader) but I simply reran the upgrade utility immediately after receiving the error and it installed fine.

[brucewilsonpa]

I'll try that -- did run it twice but not immediately. I'd like to upgrade to improve on my Cingular coverage -- a bit weak in some areas where I live.

[brucewilsonpa]

I followed the earlier suggestion and when I got the initial error msg. I reran the MaUpgradeUT program. This time it went into its install window but never moved off 0% -- after about 5 minutes it quit with another error msg. On my TyTN, the screen initially went into bootloader (usb) as expected, then after the first error and rerun the install program the screen went white with the upgrade msg., but it never changed beyond that. When the second error appeared on my desktop, I exited the program (no change on TyTN screen), and soft reset the TyTN -- everything seemed to restore to where it was but in both the brief flash on reset and the Device Info indicate I still have Radio 1.16.0.0. Am I perhaps stuck with that due to the Cingular ROM I have installed?

[boxit]

I think I've managed to sucessfully update mine to 1.20.

First time I tried I got the wrong country code error, but leaving the phone in bootloader mode and running the MaUpgradeUT program again seemed to set the update going. At the end of the update I was told that the upgrade had been unsuccessful and to try running it again, but when I checked the system information, the ROM version was showing the new version number. Also I can still make phone calls, which is a good sign.

[brucewilsonpa]

I think I've managed to sucessfully update mine to 1.20.

First time I tried I got the wrong country code error, but leaving the phone in bootloader mode and running the MaUpgradeUT program again seemed to set the update going. At the end of the update I was told that the upgrade had been unsuccessful and to try running it again, but when I checked the system information, the ROM version was showing the new version number. Also I can still make phone calls, which is a good sign.

Glad it worked for you -- which ROM did you have when you started? I had updated my TyTN to the Cingular 8525 ROM, v1.34, and I have NOT been able to get the radio to update -- followed same procedure as you did but when I click on the updatd program the second time it goes into the install dialog but never moves from 0% -- finally times out and gives me another error msg. that it failed and, sure enough, when I soft reset, it's still on radio v1.16

[boxit]

Glad it worked for you -- which ROM did you have when you started?

The Radio Rom was on v1.03.06.00, bootloader v1.04, Main ROM v1.20.161.6 (Vodafone v1605).

[jcarno]

Hi all,
Here is a stupid question ...

I have a new tytn, so do i need to upgrade the radio stack (i am on 1.03.03.10) ?

Whats the benefits for upgarding ?

I am sorry for the question, i 'm a big noooob

Bye all

JCA

[JR_de]

just flashing 1.20 from 1.16...

...done - no problems

[ckraus000]

Warning to those thinking of upgrading to radio 1.20.31.10... it performs very badly! (at least for me)

I am curently roaming in Thailand. After upgrading to radio 1.20.31.10, I could barely connect to the GPRS network, and could not maintain a GPRS connection for long (definitely not when moving). Tried changing between operators - most here have EDGE + GPRS. No matter which operator I chose, all experienced the same problem.

Reverted back to radio 1.11 and GPRS performance was back to normal (i.e. very good! no problems sustaining a GPRS data connection throughout a 40 minute taxi ride along the outskirts).

I am not using radio 1.16 because it had some problems picking up a signal after loosing it (and subjectively I think the battery life is shorter).

Not using radio 1.13 because I had a bad experience flashing it - I had a corrupted radio ROM after flashing 1.13.

Also, notice that the protocol version of radio 1.20.31.10 is actually lower than radio 1.16?


I also have problems with the gprs mode. I'm using 1.20 since yeasterday, and I have huge problems with the speed and with the stability of the connection. The XDA trion shows a good gprs signal, but i can't download anything, or only very slow.

P.S.UMTS works great

[spartanrob]

Just updated mine. Althought it finished with an error, my phone indicates that it has Radio Version: 1.20.31.10. I'm on the Rom that came with my TyTn 1.18.255.3

I did have to run the install program twice.

[szturchen_pl]

I've upgraded radio yesterday evening, one error, then tried again and everything works. (got error message but rom upgraded). So far no problems and performs good for me. Thanks :)

---
sadly, i have to say that for me this radio is a mistake. for some time it performed well, but then it started to disconnect, sometimes couldn't understand person talking with or haven't heard him/her at all :( wery often no umts, only gprs. I'm back to 1.16 radio now.

[Radek Hulán]

I upgraded with no problems original TyTN ROM to Cingular ROM (I like it because of latest OS version) and Dopod radio. However, this requires 1.04 bootloader downgrade patch, wtich is not available on FTP anymore :(

http://radekhulan.cz/img/htc-tytn/tytn-rom.png

[Prerna]

I am not sure how to find out which is my bootloader. I would like to know how to find this out...

[pof]

I am not sure how to find out which is my bootloader. I would like to know how to find this out...

put device in bootloader mode (hold side ok + power button together and reset with stylus) you should see a tri color screen showing a message:

HERMx00
IPL-1.01
SPL-1.04 --> this means you have bootloader 1.04
SPL-1.06 --> this means you have bootloader 1.06

that easy :D

[szlevi]

With the HTC TyTN, I've experimented with most available Eng ROMs & various Ext ROMs or parts of.

Lately, I've been trying out the 1.34 Cingular ROM with the 1.16 Radio. It's ok, but nothing special, as I've consistently had the best results overall with the original HTC/QTEK ROM 1.18 of 7/22/06. (in San Francisco Bay Area, USA) Also, this 1.18 ROM with extracted Cingular Radio 1.16 has performed nicely.

After moving back to QTEK 1.18 original from Cingular 1.34, I was able to apply the extracted Radio 1.20. (going back to bootloader 1.04 of course) All efforts to apply Radio 1.20 to the Cingular 1.34 failed.

Of interest to some of you, none of these ROM changes could be made using Vista RC2.5744 computer, as I had to use an WinXPsp2 computer. (current WMDC works great on Vista & takes the place of Active Sync.)

Radio ROM 1.20 performs terribly in this area...major disconnects on phone & data, UMTS/EDGE transitions a disaster, sound problems, those famous Cingular bars acted like they were at a bowling alley, being knocked all over the place! It wasn't possible to play online chess with the 1.20 radio rom or do anything online without interruptions. All regular phone connections were lousy. Tried at various locations & connection strengths around San Francisco.

After looking further into the 1.20 Radio rom & its Australian vendor ROM base, I found that the entire ROM is problematic & is tweaked for that service vendor. (Telstra) Many complaints abound over this particular ROM, even in Australia.

If you're in USA (with htc tytn & Cingular service), I'd say forget Radio 1.20 & stay with Cingular or HTC/QTEK rom. Cingular radio 1.16 is excellent here too. (It's certainly not worth risking a BRICK to apply this extracted 1.20 radio)

Previously, I found that the QTEK rom on this HTC device also performed better than the latest highly regarded I-Mate roms. So, it looks like for now, I'll stay with QTEK 1.18 (7/22) & Cingular 1.16 Radio rom....until a real htc rom upgrade appears.

Thanks to pof & others for excellent detailed info on how to do the regular rom or extracted rom upgrades/downgrades safely.

So you are saying the best is to stay with my shipping ROM but apply the Cingular v1.16 radio upgrade?

[spartanrob]

So you are saying the best is to stay with my shipping ROM but apply the Cingular v1.16 radio upgrade?

I've tried both the 1.16 and the 1.20. At first, i didn't like the 1.20, so I went to the 1.16, but it had too many dropped calls. I'm back on the 1.20 and it looks like the 2nd time is the charm, it seems to be working great. Although UMTS is a battery killer.

[Prerna]

put device in bootloader mode (hold side ok + power button together and reset with stylus) you should see a tri color screen showing a message:

HERMx00
IPL-1.01
SPL-1.04 --> this means you have bootloader 1.04
SPL-1.06 --> this means you have bootloader 1.06

that easy :D

Thanks, I got 1.04, which is good news if I want to upgrade, as I understand it...

[ben_pyett]

T Mobile - (UK) Vario II

Applied Pof's SIM Unlock (errors on completion - but works!)

Then the 1.16 Radio Only ROM (errors on completion - but works!)

Then the 1.20 Radio Only ROM

(The 1.20 ROM needs to be applied twice. It errors both times with differing errors - do not panic this is to be expected!
1st run runs for regular 20mins....then errors
Dont touch device between runs....simply re-run upgrade ROM
2nd run only runs for like 1 minute and errors - But works fine!)


Improved signal bars and possibly battery life....not yet tried 3g!

many thanks guys for all ROM's and assistance!
:)

[pof]

@ben_pyett: Probably this is because you started the first two radio upgrades in bootloader mode and the 1.20 radio upgrade from WinCE, the 1st error then brings your device in bootloader mode, and then you go with the successful flash.

[y2whisper]

Will there be a version that works with 1.06?

[goestoeleven]

The 1.20 Radio is vastly superior to the 1.16 one on Cingular...

[gravejoker]

@goestoeleven: What are the benefits of 1.20 over 1.16 that you have noticed personally?

[goestoeleven]

More stability (less soft resets), substantially better battery life, very clear calls, and no drops. what else do you need? ;)

[gravejoker]

hmm ... that's good enough ..

[tschabo]

how did you guy with the TyTN manage to upgrade the Radio ROM? I get the 114 Rom upgrade error when I try to upgrade to the 1.16 or 1.20 ROM from the 1.03 ROM.

Do I possibly have to upgrade in stages, i.e., from 1.03 to 1.11 to 1.13 etc, or can I go from 1.03 straight to 1.20?

[pof]

You can go stright to 1.20, you need to have bootloader 1.04 on your device to flash an extracted radio upgrade, it will not work on 1.06.

[tschabo]

You can go stright to 1.20, you need to have bootloader 1.04 on your device to flash an extracted radio upgrade, it will not work on 1.06.

based on the table (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades), my TyTN has 1.04. How can I figure out the bootloader version?

Just tried it again. My bootloader screen displays in the red section:
HERM200
IPL-1.00

HERM200
SPL-1.06

Does that mean, I have the 1.06 bootloader? That wouldn't go with above table though...

[pof]

tschabo: yes you have 1.06 bootloader.

I think the table is correct... which rom do you have?

[Radek Hulán]

I would NOT recommend radio 1.20. Had it for about a week, and experienced many freezes and slow response. Went back to 1.16.00.00, and all is rock stable. This (1.20) ROM seem to have too many problems.

[tschabo]

tschabo: yes you have 1.06 bootloader.

I think the table is correct... which rom do you have?

I have the following device information:
HTC TyTN (Cingular)
ROM version: 1.18.255.3
ROM date: 07/22/06
Radio version: 1.03.03.10
Protocol Version: 32.34.7010.01H
Ext ROM 1.18.255.106

damn it, that means I have to hard reset my TyTN to get a new radio ROM by getting a totally different ROM and 1.04 bootloader first. Correct?

Is there any way to get a new radio ROM without a hard reset?

What's the best ROM for my TyTN?

[pof]

damn it, that means I have to hard reset my TyTN to get a new radio ROM by getting a totally different ROM and 1.04 bootloader first. Correct?
Incorrect... hard reset will not change your bootloader. As of now you need to flash a rom matching the CID on your device with bootloader 1.04. See this wiki page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Howto_Bootloader104


Is there any way to get a new radio ROM without a hard reset?
You don't need to do a hard reset to upgrade the radio ROM.

[pietrucci]

You can go stright to 1.20, you need to have bootloader 1.04 on your device to flash an extracted radio upgrade, it will not work on 1.06.So now I'm confused... You say you need to go back to bootloader 1.04 in order to flash an extracted radio upgrade.
But Cing ROM 1.34 has bootloader 1.06. How can everybody flash this ROM to Radio 1.20 than (as it has to be bootloader 1.04)?

[pof]

They are not, if you read the full thread you will see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1037129&postcount=65
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1039310&postcount=78
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1041162&postcount=84

However, there are some who have cingular 1.31 or 1.34 with 1.20 radio:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1047722&postcount=91

This was possible because some time ago I published a method to downgrade bootloader only:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280819&p=1046444

But this was extracted from imei-check unlocker and violated their copyright, so I had to remove the files.

Now the only way to downgrade is by flashing a full rom matching your CID, I am working on a free alternative solution to do this:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283107&p=1053496

Hope it is more clear to you now... and sorry for the number of references :)

[pietrucci]

They are not, if you read the full thread you will see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1037129&postcount=65
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1039310&postcount=78
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1041162&postcount=84

However, there are some who have cingular 1.31 or 1.34 with 1.20 radio:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1047722&postcount=91

This was possible because some time ago I published a method to downgrade bootloader only:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280819&p=1046444

But this was extracted from imei-check unlocker and violated their copyright, so I had to remove the files.

Now the only way to downgrade is by flashing a full rom matching your CID, I am working on a free alternative solution to do this:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283107&p=1053496

Hope it is more clear to you now... and sorry for the number of references :)Ok, I get it now. It works like I thought it works. Succes!

[sas90850]

I updated the Radio ROM from version 1.16 to 1.20 successfully.


I used 1.16 Radio ROM almost a week and don't find any different/improvement comparing with the original Dopod English Radio ROM in HONG KONG.

P.S. I used Dopod English ROM.

[tschabo]

Incorrect... hard reset will not change your bootloader. As of now you need to flash a rom matching the CID on your device with bootloader 1.04. See this wiki page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Howto_Bootloader104



You don't need to do a hard reset to upgrade the radio ROM.

if I understand you correctly, I can get the bootloader only by flashing my device to a new ROM that has the 1.04. Doesn't that require a hard reset afterwards?

At one time you had a fix to just downgrade the bootloader but you ran into copyright issues so you had to pull the plug on that.

Doesn't this mean if I have to do a hard reset to downgrade my bootloader to 1.04 from 1.06? I am confused

[pof]

if I understand you correctly, I can get the bootloader only by flashing my device to a new ROM that has the 1.04.
AND the same CID as your device, because bootloader 1.06 will not let you flash a rom with a different CID.

Doesn't that require a hard reset afterwards?
Yes, hard reset after flashin a full rom, but not a radio rom as we were saying before.

At one time you had a fix to just downgrade the bootloader but you ran into copyright issues so you had to pull the plug on that.
Yes.

Doesn't this mean if I have to do a hard reset to downgrade my bootloader to 1.04 from 1.06? I am confused
If you flash a full rom you need a hard reset.
If you flash a radio rom you don't need a hard reset.
If you flash the "partial" bootloader upgrade that was previously available (now is not), you don't need a hard reset.

Hope is clear.

[tschabo]

pof, yes! Everything clear now. Any chance you are releasing another partial bootloader downgrade soon?

[pof]

pof, yes! Everything clear now. Any chance you are releasing another partial bootloader downgrade soon?

yes, i'm working on it........ be patient ;)

[tschabo]

yes, i'm working on it........ be patient ;)

cool, I am at work right now. You think you have a solution when I go back home tonight? ;-)

Hey, you think the 1.03 radio ROM could be a reason why I cannot have a simultaneous voice/data call in my 3G area?

[pof]

cool, I am at work right now. You think you have a solution when I go back home tonight? ;-)
I don't think so, I slept 6 hours during the last 60h... so I'll go direct to bed when I reach home today :)

Probably by next week or so... still a lot to code, and not much free time :(

Hey, you think the 1.03 radio ROM could be a reason why I cannot have a simultaneous voice/data call in my 3G area?
I don't know, sorry.

[Troy]

I'm having frequent lockups after upgrading the radio to 1.20. If I were to choose a previous version to try, which is thought to be the best?

[rockky]

hi
easy first time upgrade to 1.20......
dumb question undoubtedly.... BUT... would running the app a second time improve its performance somehow?

[Radek Hulán]

I'm having frequent lockups after upgrading the radio to 1.20. If I were to choose a previous version to try, which is thought to be the best?

This is what I reported. Now I am back at 1.16.0.0 and it is rock-stable.

[Troy]

This is what I reported. Now I am back at 1.16.0.0 and it is rock-stable.

Yes, I found your post just now, thanks! I decided to upgrade to that latest available HTC ROM which will put me at Radio 1.14, and may apply 1.16 afterwards.

[rockky]

Hi I took my 8525 downgraded bootloader to a 4... then upgraded radio to 1.20..... both attempts ended in error while upgrading....the second at 98% of the process and asked me to retry....
I checked the device anyway and it shows 1.20. et
I ASSUME I in fact HAVE the new frequency right???1
Thanks
tim

[monx®]

hmm.. success.. good.

[jwmcgee1]

Hey folks,

I have an unlocked both SIM & CID Cingular 8525.

As you can see from my sig I am up to date EXCEPT for my radio ROM. Everytime I attempt to upgrade it, I get an Error 114.

Any suggestions?

Thank You
John

[pof]

You need bootloader 1.04 to be able to do a radio-rom upgrade only.

[jwmcgee1]

How do I downgrade? I can't find the Downgrade_SPL.rar file.

When I tried to downgrade the ROM my SPL stayed at 1.09

[pietrucci]

As you can see from my sig I am up to date EXCEPT for my radio ROM. Everytime I attempt to upgrade it, I get an Error 114.
I see you already HAVE the latest Radio ROM (1.20.31.10). There's no newer Radio ROM to upgrade to! (is there?).

[jwmcgee1]

Yes, I found the program to downgrade my SPL last night. :-)

[Prerna]

How is the 1.20 radio doing with you?

I might be interested in doing the same. Could you indicate where you found the program to downgrade the bootloader please?

[robjhellis]

Hi All,

I have a TyTN running the South African ROM and converted to SuperCID. I successfully downgraded the SPL from 1.09 to 1.04, however, I have run the radio ROM upgrade unsuccessfully - 3 times to try to up grade to 1.20, and twice to down grade to Cingular's 1.16 (I am on the Cingular network). Each time the upgrade appears to run, the expected error 114 is reached, yet after a reset my phone still reports radio 1.18.

Anyone have any ideas why?

Thanks.

[jwmcgee1]

How is the 1.20 radio doing with you?

I might be interested in doing the same. Could you indicate where you found the program to downgrade the bootloader please?

I did a search through this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284401

So far the 1.20 ROM is doing ok.

[echoz]

I have been using the 1.20 radio for about 2 weeks and it has served me fine. However, as of late, it has started to give me lots of problems with reception. It doesn't stay locked on to a signal (either GSM or UMTS) and areas where there used to be reception no longer seems to have reception for that phone.

[terracot]

Originally when did the upgrade to South African ROM 1.35 DID NOT super CID as really wanted to improve general performance on the device and missed the superCID benefit. Now I am at:

HTC TyTn
SPL:.........................1.09
ROM Version:..........1.35.255.2
ROM Date:..............11/14/06
Radio Version:.........1.18.00.10
ExtROM Version:.....1.35.255.102
Cingular unlimited Data Plan

Could anaybody please advice if I still can downgrade the bootloader to 1.04 to be able to upgrade my radio. With the 1.18 radio I get speeds of 450 to 500 kbit/sec being on Cingular network in Texas. I have read people getting 800's up and also reception is sometimes only 2 lines, I think this two could be improved.

If there is a benefit, could somebody let me have the files and procedure to downgrade to 1.04 bootloader. I really appreciate. terracota@sbcglobal.net

I have read in different threads, but have not found a really good answer. Thanks.

[leochan2005]

Any material difference among the radio rom between 1.06 - 1.20?
(in particular the signal receptions and energy saving)

[jrinco11]

i tried upgrading to the 1.20 radio, from 1.16 -- it gets all the way to the white screen on the hermes saying upgrading, and then on the PC side, it stays at 0% for about 4 minutes, and then gets the error 114 screen. I soft reset, and it still has 1.16 radio -- I've tried this twice w/the same result. Any suggestions?

my phones info:
m 05
s 04
b 06
rom version: 1.34.502.1
rom date 9/21/06
radio 1.16.00.00
protocol ver 32.35.7018.01h

[pof]

jrinco11: you need bootloader 1.04 to do a radio-only upgrade. read the wiki.

[jrinco11]

sorry about that, I did have 1.06 bootlaoder, then downgraded to unlock, and the other day i did a rom upgrade and did not realize that it upgrades the bootloader as well! (is that what "s" is? s=04 means bootloader 1.04?)

[terracot]

how to downgrade from 1.09 to 1.04. the wiki is not clear.

thanks

[tinpusher]

how to downgrade from 1.09 to 1.04. the wiki is not clear.

thanks

Check this thread



http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284401&highlight=downgrade


And pop this into Google. Use Google translater to view

DownGrade_SPL.rar -easywarez -ddl2 geocities

[leochan2005]

I have tried 1.06, 1.16 and 1.20 radio rom today, no material difference.

[tinpusher]

I ran the original HTC ROM and radio until about a week ago. I finally upgraded to the new 1.35.255.102 and the 1.18.00.10 radio. I noticed a huge difference in battery life. I work in a building that limits electronic transmissions, and so it was constantly in and out of coverage area, always searching for a signal (I'm with Cingular in Texas, and I get full signal 3G outside of the building). Fresh charge in the morning would leave 20% battery by 9pm. It's either the new ROM or Radio, but now after full charge I have about 50% battery at night. Not a noticable change in reception either way. Flashed 1.20.31.10 Radio last night, we'll see if there is a change today.

T

[msuk]

Hi all,

I have used pof's patched radio rom v2a to SuperCID my T-Mobile MDA Vario 2 and all is working well.

I would like to know can I upgrade the radio to Extracted radio ROM v1.20.31.10 from new jasjam ROM and my Vario 2 will still remain superCID and work with T-Mobile UK?

Also can I downgrade back to pof's patched radio rom if I am not happy with
v1.20.31.10?

Thanks
Msuk

[pof]

can I upgrade the radio to Extracted radio ROM v1.20.31.10 from new jasjam ROM and my Vario 2 will still remain superCID and work with T-Mobile UK?
Yes if you ran Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe having 1.16 patched radio on your phone, and you have bootloader 1.04.

Also can I downgrade back to pof's patched radio rom if I am not happy with v1.20.31.10?
Yes if you have bootloader 1.04.

[msuk]

Hi again,

I am a bit confused currently I have used Pof's patched v2a radio rom and ran the HERM_Unlock_v2a.exe and everything went smoothly.

Now my current T-Mobile MDA Vario 2 has bootloader 1.04 and I have flashed the HTYN rom - 1.35.255.2 11/14/06 and all went fine.

I have checked my bootloader and it is now reporting 1.09 - can I flash to a different ROM with a different bootloader or am I stuck with this one?

Also can I downgrade the bootloader to 1.04 and re-apply pof's patched rom so that I can flash to another ROM?


Thanks
Msuk

[jrinco11]

right now i have the 1.34 cingular rom and 1.20 radio -- if I want to hard reset, will that put the radio back to 1.16?

[pof]

no, it will keep 1.20

[dcoelho]

He! Pof. I understood that it is not possible to downgrade from a BL 1.09 to 1.04. I also Understood that even having supercid my hermes when it had the 1.04 BL I cannot now installing other roms because of BL 1.09 that has installed with the 1.35 rom. That said, my question is: Is it possible to upgrade to a newer ROM an "old" hermes with BL 1.04 keeping this bootloader? Thanks

[pof]

He! Pof. I understood that it is not possible to downgrade from a BL 1.09 to 1.04.
Well, it is... but we don't host the tools to do it here anymore because of legal issues.

I also Understood that even having supercid my hermes when it had the 1.04 BL I cannot now installing other roms because of BL 1.09 that has installed with the 1.35 rom.
You understood that wrong. If your hermes is SuperCID you can install ANY rom.
What you can't install because of bootloader version different than 1.04 is only extracted radio ROMs (even SuperCID or not).

That said, my question is: Is it possible to upgrade to a newer ROM an "old" hermes with BL 1.04 keeping this bootloader?
No because all shipped updates include the bootloader on them, and you can't remove it from the NBH file.

[dcoelho]

Thank you Pof for your clear informations.
So, where can be found these BL tools? do you know? and can you say?

[pof]

Please read here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Howto_Bootloader104

[ciufus]

Hej there,

I did the upgdade on my HTC TyTn and it works without problems :)

Thx man - GOOD work

[stormryder]

Hi All,

I have a TyTN running the South African ROM and converted to SuperCID. I successfully downgraded the SPL from 1.09 to 1.04, however, I have run the radio ROM upgrade unsuccessfully - 3 times to try to up grade to 1.20, and twice to down grade to Cingular's 1.16 (I am on the Cingular network). Each time the upgrade appears to run, the expected error 114 is reached, yet after a reset my phone still reports radio 1.18.

Anyone have any ideas why?

Thanks.

I'm actually having the same problem as Rob here. My phone is SuperCID (it's an actual TyTN, originally shipped with a 1.06 ROM, successfully downgraded to 1.04, SuperCID'd and finally upgraded after testing the Cingular 8525 shipping ROM to the latest TyTN ROM with SPL 1.09, then downgraded back to SPL 1.04).

Bootloader screen verifies that it's SPL 1.04. Trying the 1.20 Radio ROM update takes the appropriate amount of time, but reboots without having changed from the 1.18 Radio ROM of the latest TyTN ROM. When the screen goes white, it says "Upgrade Radio Stack Please Wait.." The actual upgrader never moves from 0% when "performing" the update and errors out with a normal 114.

I also verified I can't downgrade to 1.16 either, except I can downgrade it to the "hacked" 1.16 that allows for SuperCIDing the phone (and can successfully run the v2a SuperCID program afterwards).

UPDATE: PROBLEM RESOLVED!

Since I could use the v2a supercid upgrader to get to the SuperCID 1.16 radio rom, I made a copy of that entire upgrader directory and replaced the "hacked" 116 nbf file with the 120 nbf file from the 120 download. I can't discern why one works and the other doesn't, but I'm not complaining :D

S

[wpbear]

Cingular 8525
SuperCID
SPL:.......................1.04
ROM Version:..........1.35.255.2
ROM Date:..............11/14/06
Radio Version:........1.20.00.10
ExtROM Version:.....1.35.255.102

Where did you get the new ROM and ExtROM. Yours are newer than those posted for download..also Wouldnt the ROM 1.35.255.2 have at least SPL bootloader 1.06.


EDIT: I am guessing you are not using a CINGULAR ROM OR ExtROM..Correct?

I did POF's method and SuperCID and Unlock but I would like your new ROM and ExtROM only if I can keep SPL 1.04

[daveh85]

I am running Vista so unable to use the normal method :(

That said, can this be done using Mitty?

Would it be a case of :

lnb radio_.nbf 0x80000000

thanks,
Dave

[pof]

lnb radio_.nbf 0x80000000

the address is correct, but the file has to be GSM.nb extracted from NBH file, not a .nbf which includes also the NBF header.

And AFAIK no one tried to flash radio using this method yet, you'll be the first if you do it and if it doesn't work you can brick your phone.

If you do it, please report the results :)

[daveh85]

Happy to say it didn't brick the phone but it still shows 1.18 :(

Do I need to do anything else to kick it in?

USB>USB>
USB>task 32
task 32
Level = 0
USB>lnb d:\users\davher\desktop\abc.nbh
80000000lnb d:\users\davher\desktop\abc.nbh 80000000
:F=d:\users\davher\desktop\abc.nbh
:A=80000000
:O=00000000
:L=FFFFFFFF

start NB image download
SH
Load ADDR: 80000000 Length: D800AC
************************* **************
***************Code entry point at 0x80D80000


USB>task 8
task 8

[pof]

Radio file size should be 0xd80000 and format NB (raw, without any NBF/NBH headher). Is your abc.nbh a raw radio file?

[daveh85]

Good question...

I cracked open HERM_1.20.31.10_type2_radio_fixed with WinRar and nabbed radio_.nbf

I just renamed it abc.nbf and dropped it on my c:\ to make it easier to flash.

Not sure what I did wrong :S

[pof]

Take the NBH file from any shipped upgrade (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades) (extract with winrar). Then use NBHexctract (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289830) to obtain GSM.nb from the NBH file. Then flash this file with 'lnb' command in mtty and bootloader 1.01MFG. That should theoretically work.

[daveh85]

Ok, so I have done that but it stll shows 1.18.

Does one have to hard reset the device for it show up?



USB>task 32
task 32
Level = 0
USB>lnb d:\users\davher\desktop\gsm.nb 80000000
lnb d:\users\davher\desktop\gsm.nb 80000000
:F=d:\users\davher\desktop\gsm.nb
:A=80000000
:O=00000000
:L=FFFFFFFF

start NB image downloadSH
Load ADDR: 80000000 Length: D80000
***************************************
***************Code entry point at 0x80D40000


USB>task 8
task 8


Hard reset made no difference

[pof]

if it doesn't work like this, no idea sorry... you'll need to use WinXP to flash it.