Palm Messaging app

[theloanranger]

The Palm Messaging app from the Treo 750v is cool.

It's even cooler on the TyTN.

EDIT: This file has been removed from the FTP site, Please do not upload it again.
Palm claims this is in conflict with their Intellectual Property rights.

Thanks,

Flar (the admin)

(ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/Palm%20Messaging.ZIP)

[darkjedi]

Is this the threaded SMS app? That'll be cool if it is. Any screenshots yet? Thanks again :)

*edit*
HAHAHA it is the threaded sms app!!! Awesome find :D

[abendx]

very nice... it would be even better if we could maintain the messaging app's hard button functionality (i.e. be able to push it repeatably to toggle between this app and the standard inbox app).

thanks for sharing!!

[marka2k]

Does this play well with Push Email feature? Second the motion for PICS

Thanks!

[LEROI]

Ok...yes I am a loser....!

Any chance the cab can incorporate the registry changes, (MMS1 to MMS1old)...or was it left out b/c people may wish to leave the message there as well?

I get nervous on the regedit side...

Thanks, and if not...no problem.

[vijay555]

All the changes are already in the cab as far as I can tell. I'm not in front of a PDA...

V

[emy_77]

Wow! Is this done independently of hannip's ROM dump? Cool! Thanx theloanranger!

I'm looking forward to use this on my Pocket Loox T830 (when I get it).

Screenshots from those who already installed it please?

[hannip]

Wow, I look away for 2 seconds and someone already did it!

Awesome!

[akijikan]

ahhhh! thank you! I knew it would only be a matter of time til someone got this...I'm using it on my 700wx and it is the shiz-nit!

[hannip]

pretty friggin' awesome! Works great!

[Ben74]

i tried it on Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone, and not surprisingly, it doesn't work too well. it installs fine, but when running keeps generating exceptions in device.exe and gwes.exe. also, the UI does not work well because it's designed for Pocket PC. again, no surprise, but in case any smartphone users are tempted to try it, consider yourself warned.

kudos to whoever got it to work on a Pocket PC though!

[maverickmt]

Any one have the settings to get mms working for verizon on this? Thanks in advance

[JmJ17]

Mmmmm, the lovely Treo 650 messaging is back.

Everything works fine on my TyTN. There is only two minor issues. First one is about desconnecting after sending a MMS. I have to do it manually. Any idea?

The other one has been posted before: I cannot set the Palm messaging to the hard button... although I've sourrounded this using SBSH iLauncher. I've assigned PalmMSG to one of the iLauncher's QuickLaunch icons and this one to the hard button.

[nmeister]

I tried putting in the settings I did to originally get the MMS working on my sprint ppc6700, but the settings are not working here. Any ideas?

[el chino]

Some help please..

I tried to look for the following using resco and phm and i can't seem to find the following that was included with the instructions

- Now you've done that, navigate using the registry editor to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc and rename the MMS1 key to MMS1.old, and the SMS key to SMS.old. This will prevent the standard app displaying SMS and MMS.


Any help is appreciated! and btw this on a treo 700wx :D

[darkjedi]

lol I don't have anyone who can send me a MMS :P So I don't know if it works or not, lol. But I love this app :D

[EclipsedMotions]

this app works beautifully on my MDA! I love it! I have been waiting for this app. I used a program similar to this on the RAZR. I loved it.

[malatesta]

Screenshots are found here:

http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1106882&postcount=15


NOTE: Some of us are having issues. We CANNOT send an SMS to an email address. We get an error message:

"Could not send message. The message center number or the email center number is invalid. Please contact the wireless operator."

Now, in the SMS app, if you go to Menu --> Options --> Advanced tab

Network Configuration/Manual/Edit...

You'll see spots for "message center number" and "email center number" and both are blank. When you put in a number (such as found here: http://www.smsfre.com/SMS-Mesaging-Centers.htm ) they do not stick after hitting "OK".

Any help/ideas?

[vijay555]

Guys, I've written a new app, VJSlippyPalm, to toggle between the Palm Messaging App and the normal Inbox.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280282

V

[andason]

Screenshots are found here:

http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1106882&postcount=15


NOTE: Some of us are having issues. We CANNOT send an SMS to an email address. We get an error message:

"Could not send message. The message center number or the email center number is invalid. Please contact the wireless operator."

Now, in the SMS app, if you go to Menu --> Options --> Advanced tab

Network Configuration/Manual/Edit...

You'll see spots for "message center number" and "email center number" and both are blank. When you put in a number (such as found here: http://www.smsfre.com/SMS-Mesaging-Centers.htm ) they do not stick after hitting "OK".

Any help/ideas?
Have you tried entering this mcn / ecn at the registry?

[malatesta]

Have you tried entering this mcn / ecn at the registry?
Nope. Though I was thinking about that.

I was curious as to where the registry values for this are....do you know?

Also, I don't know the mcn/ecn for Sprint. Well, I think I have sprint's MCN from that link.

[gameboy213]

i am using a 6700 on sprint.
I installed and ran exactly as it said.
issues:

-the today shortcut does NOT open the app. It does nothing. I must access it from the start menu.
-it says 1 Unread SMS on the today screen, but there are NO new messages.
-once a messages is sent and a reply is recieved... a chat is started.... any message I SEND after that is not sent for a long long time, 10 - 15 minutes, if ever.... unless I go to outbox and resend. If I do that, ALL of the messages that are in the outbox that should have sent, then send right away.

Others are seeing this issue on the treo vx and x over at treocentral. Hope there is a fix soon!

[coorey]

well malatesta i know if anyone can go in and find out the info it is you. i need to get the numbers working on my 6700 as well. . . so when you find out how to get it working properly will you posto n here or su

[cosmo]

Anyone know how to link the contact details SMS option to the new messaging program?

[malatesta]

i am using a 6700 on sprint.
I installed and ran exactly as it said.
issues:

-the today shortcut does NOT open the app. It does nothing. I must access it from the start menu.
-it says 1 Unread SMS on the today screen, but there are NO new messages.

Weird, here I differ in my experience: my today plugin jumps right to the Palm inbox and it currently says "No unread text messages" like it should.

well malatesta i know if anyone can go in and find out the info it is you. i need to get the numbers working on my 6700 as well. . . so when you find out how to get it working properly will you posto n here or su
lol

Definitely. Though first I need some pizza and then whiskey then I'll head to "work" on this.

[brandouno]

Tried installing to samsung i730 WM5, but install fails every time. Will this run on verizon sammy i730?

Thanks for the work ;)

[andason]

location of emailcenter number and messagecenter number strings in registry

HLM\SOFTWARE\PALM\MESSAGING\PREFS

[malatesta]

location of emailcenter number and messagecenter number strings in registry

HLM\SOFTWARE\PALM\MESSAGING\PREFS
awesome. thanks for that!

okay, now i'm not sure if I put in Sprint's number like
+1-7044100000

or
1704410000

I'm doing it the second way. The pop up message IS gone now, so that's a start. Though SMS'ing to an email address is not working.

And I'm guessing I'll have to call Sprint about their email center number...

[oo3]

Sup guys...this app works great with 8125.

My only question is how do I change my MMS settings? I can't find it anywhere since it's no longer in my "inbox."

[gameboy213]

Weird, here I differ in my experience: my today plugin jumps right to the Palm inbox and it currently says "No unread text messages" like it should.


Not here. Never has worked. Still reads 1 SMS UNREAD.
And the outbox issue is clearly an application one and not a device specific one. Hopefully one of you wizards can figure it out! I think the app has real promise!

[malatesta]

gah, even with the regedit, the Message center number does NOT stick.

[mkjellman]

hey- with the old inbox application i frequently would go through my contacts and find the user i wanted to send a text message too, and open inbox and have it auto add the recipient.

now that i have installed the palm threaded app, when i try to go through contacts to send a text, it composes a email message to the phone number in the contact. any idea how to get my treo to default to the new application instead of the old inbox application?

[Pibe38]

Not here. Never has worked. Still reads 1 SMS UNREAD.
And the outbox issue is clearly an application one and not a device specific one. Hopefully one of you wizards can figure it out! I think the app has real promise!

Did you by any chance edit the registry as unstructed on the ZIP file? The plugin could be reading from the old app and you may have a new message sitting on it.

[oo3]

hey- with the old inbox application i frequently would go through my contacts and find the user i wanted to send a text message too, and open inbox and have it auto add the recipient.

now that i have installed the palm threaded app, when i try to go through contacts to send a text, it composes a email message to the phone number in the contact. any idea how to get my treo to default to the new application instead of the old inbox application?

Yeah that does seem like a problem. Although I've trained myself to go to Messaging to New to Menu then Add Recipient. A couple extra steps but does the same.

I'm still waiting to find out how to set up my MMS on my 8125 now that I have Palm Messaging installed. Anyone?

[hay112]

Anyone have some MMS settings that will work for T-Mobile USA?

right now my settings are:
message center number +12063130004
email center number: blank
mms gateway address: 216.155.165.050
mms url: http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms
network profile: t-mobile mms

[mmorisa]

Hi All,

I've tried the prog and it works OK.
SMS and MMS work fine. For MMS, just manual edit the setting obtained from your operator. Very simple.

I've one not so good comment about this prog. Whenever I replied a message under threaded message, the typed characters is hidden underneath the in-screen keyboard or underneath the Letter-recognizer input panel.
Can anyone confirm this and help find a solution.
TQ and regards,
morisa

[oo3]

Hi All,

I've tried the prog and it works OK.
SMS and MMS work fine. For MMS, just manual edit the setting obtained from your operator. Very simple.

I've one not so good comment about this prog. Whenever I replied a message under threaded message, the typed characters is hidden underneath the in-screen keyboard or underneath the Letter-recognizer input panel.
Can anyone confirm this and help find a solution.
TQ and regards,
morisa

Yeah I tried to manual edit, but when I went to the Cingular website to get the MMS settings, it was stating to enter in things that the manual settings didn't have. All I see in manual settings are Message center number, email center number, MMS gateway address and URL.

Cingular has Gateway (wireless.cingular.com), Port (80), Server address (http://mmsc.cingular.com). It doesn't say anything about MMS gateway address.

[Lvballer06]

no setting is needed in the mms gateway address spot...or at least not for sprint. :D

[mmorisa]

Hi oo3

I will try to help you like below;

Message center number: (put in your sms center number)

Email center number: (put in your email center number)

MMS gateway address: wireless.cingular.com:80
or use IP address like this: 66.209.11.32:80

MMS URL: http://mmsc.cingular.com

Network profile: select MMS setting

That's all and for me with DiGi as my operator, everything works just fine.

Please try and report your findings back here.
Regards
morisa

[darkjedi]

What's the e-mail center number for Cingular? Or is it even needed?

[mmorisa]

Hi darkjedi

In my case, I don't need it so I leave it blank. I use the old messaging for email.

Does the MMS works for you?

Regards,
morisa

[oo3]

Hi oo3

I will try to help you like below;

Message center number: (put in your sms center number)

Email center number: (put in your email center number)

MMS gateway address: wireless.cingular.com:80
or use IP address like this: 66.209.11.32:80

MMS URL: http://mmsc.cingular.com

Network profile: select MMS setting

That's all and for me with DiGi as my operator, everything works just fine. Thanks mmorisa for your help. I will try again tomorrow.

Please try and report your findings back here.
Regards
morisa

Hmmm...still not working although I know I am getting someting. When I send an MMS from my gf's phone (she, too has cingular), my wizard shows the rainbow icon stating something is loading. It will do that a couple times then stop. So I know that the MMS is going through to my phone. But for one reason or another, it is not notifying me nor is it downloading the message/image.

I searched another forum and put in the correct Message center number (+1312314890). Cingular doesn't seem to have an Email center number so I left it blank. I tried both wireless.cingular.com:80 as well as 66.209.11.32:80. MMS URL was http://mmsc.cingular.com and Network profile didn't have MMS settings so I tried both default settings as well as my Internet settings without success.

Oh well after working with this for 2 hours, I must sleep now. Thanks for your help mmorisa, I will try again tomorrow.

[mmorisa]

Hmmm...still not working although I know I am getting someting. When I send an MMS from my gf's phone (she, too has cingular), my wizard shows the rainbow icon stating something is loading. It will do that a couple times then stop. So I know that the MMS is going through to my phone. But for one reason or another, it is not notifying me nor is it downloading the message/image.

I searched another forum and put in the correct Message center number (+1312314890). Cingular doesn't seem to have an Email center number so I left it blank. I tried both wireless.cingular.com:80 as well as 66.209.11.32:80. MMS URL was http://mmsc.cingular.com and Network profile didn't have MMS settings so I tried both default settings as well as my Internet settings without success.

Oh well after working with this for 2 hours, I must sleep now. Thanks for your help mmorisa, I will try again tomorrow.

Hi oo3,
Before you go to sleep, please make sure that you've a MMS setting in your connection setting from the control panel. This is important as the Access Point, username and password for the mms seeting is stored. If you don't have this setting, trust me that you'll never received any mms.

Kindly check it, then go to sleep, wake up early tomorrow and start a new adventure in solving the problem.

Regards,
morisa

[malatesta]

See, my messaging center number doesn't stick in the program or the registry after a soft reset. The email center DOES stick.

Either way, if I SMS to an email address I get this:

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j277/malatesta77/sms.jpg

That 704 number is Sprint's Messaging center number. It's also under the email center.

[nickcerda]

Cingular's email message center number is 121

[hannip]

Hey theloneranger, I think you forgot to include smstrigger.exe in your cab. Maybe that explains why sms messages aren't going out in a timely fashion?!?

[Lvballer06]

heres the .cab with the smstrigger included.

Edit: Woot Woot just tested this and that was the exact reason it didnt send right away. thanks for pointing that out hannip! Its working lovely now! YEAH! :D

EDIT: File has been removed, palm claims this is conflicting with their Intellectual Property rights.

Greetz, Flar (the admin)

[veronicamays]

I downloaded this file but cannot get it to install.

Edit: I figured it out

[Lvballer06]

installed perfect on mine.....let me hard reset and see if it will do it then....I have been playing with it alot. :D is it giving u an error or what?

[cosmo]

Anyone know how to set the orange LED to flash when an unread message is present on HTC TyTN?

[blend]

It installed fine, and smstrigger is in the windows dir...but I still get a long delay when sending a text from within an established thread. I still have to go to resend.

I also went to the windows dir and clicked on smstrigger and got an error -smstrigger is not a valid Pocket PC application. :(

[Lvballer06]

haha yea I just checked that (smsTrigger.exe) and got the same message. when I tested it I was in a threaded convo with myself since no one I know is up at this hour. And as soon as I sent it went through.....I just tried another while not in a threaded sms and it is like u said :D I rushed into it without FULLY testing it :( ....but the .exe was taken from the ROM I extracted it myself and the reg edits are there....so Im not sure...also u will need to adjust ur server settings if u installed the .cab I posted because they default to Sprints settings. Surely theres a fix.....Im lookin....anyone else gotta clue?

[hannip]

My files also had the same issues. Vijay has good files. He has some tweaked viewimfs.exe that he uses to extract the files. I've PM'd him to send me the file. I'll try it out in the morning if someone doesn't beat me to it again. :)

[Lvballer06]

huh didnt think of that I may try and extract one more time and give it a try.....but when I first started trying to get this to work yesterday at this time...I keep getting it unsigned or untrusted bs....but hopefully we can get it working asap. And if u get that from him....please send my way. :)

[theloanranger]

ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/smstrigger.ZIP

[Lvballer06]

ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Hermes/Tools_and_Programs/smstrigger.ZIP

with this one it gives the unsigned/not trusted msgbox when trying to execute from the windows directory. progress from the not recognized win32 app. but it still doesnt seem to fix the issue even with the .exe and needed reg edits. any ideas?
~mike

[mccune]

It works like charm on my HTC Wizard, but my Prophet just wan't to send SMS :(

It does receive SMS with the Palm app, and it shows no error when trying to send or reply to an SMS.

To bad the app doesn't move up a little so it show up above the virtual keyboard . But that is probably because the Treo/Wizard/TyTN etc. have a real keyboard to type with :P

Hmm.. ...just recieved 4 SMS messages on my Wizard from the Prophet.. ..so it does work after all? :D


Seems like it isn't to stable on my Prophet. Havn't missed 1 message on my Wizard though.. ..strange :(

[MDANavymom]

Anyone have some MMS settings that will work for T-Mobile USA?

right now my settings are:
message center number +12063130004
email center number: blank
mms gateway address: 216.155.165.050
mms url: http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms
network profile: t-mobile mms

I have the same thing setup on my MDA but have yet been able to send an MMS...the sms works great.
Does anyone know if I install the MMS cab from a T-Mobile ROM off the FTP if it would install the settings correctly into this or does it have to be done manually?
Thanks

[100thMonkey]

I noticed two things. First, I now have 2 apps in the progam menu: Messaging and Messaging1. Also, I can not delete Inbox from the start menu. I get an error message stating that "that item cannot be removed from the start menu"

[randomelements]

Awesome app - many thanks for grabbing this.

Just one question: does the messaging.exe have any switches so that you can create a shortcut to instantly open a new message?
I'd love to be able to replace the SMS option on the WM5 New Menu.

Cheers,
Colin.

[wuffi]

Hello, tried the cab from the first post, have no problems with sending SMS, do I need to install the SMSTrigger?
I noticed that sometimes (maybe when it tries to download MMS?) it disables the phone for about 5sec? (Phone status icon shows Phone disabled).
Does anyone has this problem?

[craigkendall]

ahhhh! thank you! I knew it would only be a matter of time til someone got this...I'm using it on my 700wx and it is the shiz-nit!

For a fellow 700wx user and newbie please...
What file do you download from where?
How exactly (simple step by step please) do you install it?
Are there tricks to launching it?
Will it have to be launched each time the device is restarted?

I think that's all my newbie questions at this point.

[kac]

Guys, a little help needed here. I've installed the link on the first page.

I'm now at the step where I need to edit the registry as follows:

"navigate using the registry editor to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc and rename the MMS1 key to MMS1.old, and the SMS key to SMS.old."

I can't find any key that's called "MMS1" or "SMS" in there. I did find a folder called MMS and a folder called SMS but that's it.

I did a registry search for a key called MMS1....nothing came up.

How do I do it?:confused: :confused: :confused:

[gameboy213]

heres the .cab with the smstrigger included.

Edit: Woot Woot just tested this and that was the exact reason it didnt send right away. thanks for pointing that out hannip! Its working lovely now! YEAH! :D

It says this cannot be installed on my 6700. I already have the Palm Messaging App on there. Could this be the issue? I would remove it but it isn't in my remove programs...... I figured I could install over... I guess not. Any ideas?

[herofromsomeday]

Guys, a little help needed here. I've installed the link on the first page.

I'm now at the step where I need to edit the registry as follows:

"navigate using the registry editor to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc and rename the MMS1 key to MMS1.old, and the SMS key to SMS.old."

I can't find any key that's called "MMS1" or "SMS" in there. I did find a folder called MMS and a folder called SMS but that's it.

I did a registry search for a key called MMS1....nothing came up.

How do I do it?:confused: :confused: :confused:

i am having the same issue not finding it. please help! thanks!

[gameboy213]

i am having the same issue not finding it. please help! thanks!

Just change the SMS FOLDER name to SMS.old

[malatesta]

i am having the same issue not finding it. please help! thanks!
If you see SMS or MMS as a key, then THAT is what you want. Everyone's device is slightly different.

[kac]

Thanks. Sorry for being a nOOb! :D

I renamed those folders and what that did is prevent the original SMS app from showing up. Which I think is the point.

My next problem is that when I hit the messaging button, it takes me to the Outlook inbox instead of the new threaded sms app. How do I change it so the messaging button brings up the threaded app?

[kac]

i tried it on Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone, and not surprisingly, it doesn't work too well. it installs fine, but when running keeps generating exceptions in device.exe and gwes.exe.


This is also happening on my 700w.

[takmsdsm]

im getting the not sending after first sent message issue on my 6700 as well. lol its fun tracking the issue through 5 forums.

[squint]

"navigate using the registry editor to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc and rename the MMS1 key to MMS1.old, and the SMS key to SMS.old."

I can't find any key that's called "MMS1" or "SMS" in there. I did find a folder called MMS and a folder called SMS but that's it.

Yeah, rename the folders to MMS1.old and SMS.old - that's what I did and it works fine for me.

[hay112]

anyone figured out the t-mobile USA MMS settings?

[kac]

im getting the not sending after first sent message issue on my 6700 as well. lol its fun tracking the issue through 5 forums.


I have this same issue also. I have to resend it from my outbox for it to deliver.

It's not as annoying as getting the device.exe or gwes.exe errors constantly. :(

[gameboy213]

I have never seen those error messages. However the app is not listed in my remove programs and I can't reinstall the newer cab over the top.... any ideas? I am trying to manually remove it but can't find the app or app pieces anywhere.

[bshaf]

I am very confused on what works and what doesn't. I have a 8125 and my SMS take a long time to actually send if they do at all. Do i need the SMS trigger app??
Also what are the MMS settings that work for Cingular?? Thanks for the help!

[gameboy213]

heres the .cab with the smstrigger included.

Edit: Woot Woot just tested this and that was the exact reason it didnt send right away. thanks for pointing that out hannip! Its working lovely now! YEAH! :D

can you give just the smstrigger.exe to us? I cannot get the cab to install over the old one, and can't seem to remove it either... it isn't listed in remove programs.

[squint]

What if we DON'T rename MMS1 to MMS1.old and just leave it be....will we continue to receive MMS messages with the built in microsoft messaging program?

Won't this solve the problem of the MMS settings?

I don't really need the PALM program to get the MMS messages...just so long as I get them.

[takmsdsm]

I also notice if you push the up or left arrow while in a threaded message, it throws you out of the program lol.

[gershee]

OK, I've tried just about every SMS Threader out there for my PPC6700..
This is BY FAR the best.
Just a few kinks to work out.
I installed the file 'Palm Threaded SMS.cab'.. That would be the one that someone posted which included 'smstrigger.exe'.. I don't know why I chose this one, seemed liked the best bet.. (Not the first file @ the start of the thread)
Install went perfectly, soft reset, I DID NOT make any registry changes.
It works great, my hardware button opens the program.. Incoming SMS go directly to it, displayed by it.
The problem.....
I did not make any changes to options in the program, went directly to it, sent myself a SMS. It was about 4 minutes delayed. (Although the time in the thread displayed the time I sent the SMS, not the time it was recieved)
That is problem 1.
Problem 2.
Ever SMS I tried to send after the initial one was placed in my 'Outbox' and I had to manually go there and resend for it to work.
So EXCELLENT program with sooooo much potential. Just need to iron out these bugs..

Recap:
2 problems.
1. Delay on recieving SMS.
2. SMS's sent after intial one are placed in 'Outbox' and are not sent immediately, rather must be manually resent.

Question for other 6700 Sprint users..
Anyone got any settings for me? MMS, etc..

Let's get this working 100%!!
~gersh

[gameboy213]

where do you put the smstrigger.exe file if installing it individually? I can't get it to launch/install.

[gershee]

where do you put the smstrigger.exe file if installing it individually? I can't get it to launch/install.

I installed 'Palm Threaded SMS.zip' posted by Lvballer06 on page 5 of this forum.
Works damn near perfect.
Except the two issues I mentioned above.
Hopefully someone will come up with some the Sprint settings for Email and Message Center Number and the MMS Gateway Address.. That might resolve the delay issue.
The SMS going to 'Outbox' and having to be manually resent, someone needs to just figure that shit out.. Confuses me.
~g

[gameboy213]

Well the smstrigger was thought to have FIXED the outbox issue.... but clearly it didn't if you are still having the issue and you installed the cab with the trigger in it. Oh well.

[hannip]

where do you put the smstrigger.exe file if installing it individually? I can't get it to launch/install.

You copy it to your windows dir on your device.

theloneranger, are you planning to include smstrigger.exe in the cab in your original post? I'm pretty sure it's needed, but not sure whether it's purpose is for outgoing sms or incoming.

[gershee]

Well the smstrigger was thought to have FIXED the outbox issue.... but clearly it didn't if you are still having the issue and you installed the cab with the trigger in it. Oh well.


"It installed fine, and smstrigger is in the windows dir...but I still get a long delay when sending a text from within an established thread. I still have to go to resend. "

SOMEONE GET THESE ISSUES RESOLVED PLLLLLLLLEASE!

[gameboy213]

"It installed fine, and smstrigger is in the windows dir...but I still get a long delay when sending a text from within an established thread. I still have to go to resend. "

SOMEONE GET THESE ISSUES RESOLVED PLLLLLLLLEASE!

I put the smstrigger in my win dir too... did nothing for me that I can tell. At least it did not fix my sending issue, i know that

Also did you notice that if you use the joypad to go up or left, or use the arrow keys the same way, in a threaded chat... it exits the app?

[jamesus]

The smstrigger.exe program is in my Windows directory, but still the texts does not send. Not a horrible problem, but would be nice to have fixed. Otherwise, Kudos!

[hannip]

The smstrigger.exe program is in my Windows directory, but still the texts does not send. Not a horrible problem, but would be nice to have fixed. Otherwise, Kudos!

I don't think smstrigger.exe will fix the outgoing delay problem. Looking at the registery it appears to be related to certain content types. It probably just routes certain content to the messaging app.

[jamesus]

I don't think smstrigger.exe will fix the outgoing delay problem. Looking at the registery it appears to be related to certain content types. It probably just routes certain content to the messaging app.

Since I am not a registry expert, is there something that we should look for in order to shorten the delay?

[takmsdsm]

gameboy, lol im following you around on 3 forums at least. the SMStrigger doesnt change anything, the problems are the exact same with or without it there.

[takmsdsm]

Since I am not a registry expert, is there something that we should look for in order to shorten the delay?


i have been scouring through the reg settings, havent found anything yet.

[jamesus]

i have been scouring through the reg settings, havent found anything yet.

Thanks...and I have noticed you and Gameboy on a few other forums as well. Cheers and good luck!

[gameboy213]

gameboy, lol im following you around on 3 forums at least. the SMStrigger doesnt change anything, the problems are the exact same with or without it there.

haha
Well i'm all over the forums trying to piece it together, but it seems to be a dead end as of now. And Palm has removed the file from this site. I can live with the joystick/arrow thing, I just want my messages to send. But I don't know if this one is fixable. And my today screen is still screwed, with the shortcut not working. oh well.

[hannip]

Guess we generated too much attention. Palm made the admins remove the cab

[teevah]

same problem wth every messaage after first have to manually resend. Also sprint ppc6700 unable to send mms. Looks sweet though

[darkjedi]

AHAHAHAHA poor Palm, we took what you have and made it better :D Glad I got it when I got it, lol.

[MDANavymom]

Has anyone from T-Mobile USA been able to send MMS? I can do SMS but the MMS just won't work!!
If you have could you please post what you did to make it work?!

thanks

[darkjedi]

I think this is what you should have there:

message center number +12063130004
email center number: blank
mms gateway address: 216.155.165.050:9201
mms url: http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms

[MDANavymom]

I think this is what you should have there:

message center number +12063130004
email center number: blank
mms gateway address: 216.155.165.050:9201
mms url: http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms

I tried that still does not work just sits in the outbox. Go to outbox and try to resend and just stays in the outbox.
This is very frustrating.

[darkjedi]

I'm just posting what worked for me with Cingular, I really don't know T-Mobile's MMS info (I pulled that from another site).

[gershee]

haha
Well i'm all over the forums trying to piece it together, but it seems to be a dead end as of now. And Palm has removed the file from this site. I can live with the joystick/arrow thing, I just want my messages to send. But I don't know if this one is fixable. And my today screen is still screwed, with the shortcut not working. oh well.

my today screen works flawlessly.. strange..
ppc6700

[kac]

Concerning the problem of constant gwes.exe and device.exe errors, I placed the smstrigger.exe file in the windows folder and haven't seen the problem since. Hopefully it's gone for good.

ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com...smstrigger.ZIP

[gershee]

Concerning the problem of constant gwes.exe and device.exe errors, I placed the smstrigger.exe file in the windows folder and haven't seen the problem since. Hopefully it's gone for good.

ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com...smstrigger.ZIP

i installed the cab with smstrigger.exe and i have yet to see that error (5 hrs now).. so yea, i think it's a safe bet..

[gershee]

sometimes i get the feeling that not all my sms's are going through.. anyone else?

[herofromsomeday]

ahhh. i have a verizon xv6700 and this program is THE BOMB! the only thing that i have a problem with, and so does everyone else, is after the first text message is sent.... all newer sent txt messages stay in the outbox and have to manually be resent. if anyone finds a solution to this problem, please post it in this thread. i am sick and tired of microsofts texting software.....i want this to work soooo bad. thanks.

[gershee]

ahhh. i have a verizon xv6700 and this program is THE BOMB! the only thing that i have a problem with, and so does everyone else, is after the first text message is sent.... all newer sent txt messages stay in the outbox and have to manually be resent. if anyone finds a solution to this problem, please post it in this thread. i am sick and tired of microsofts texting software.....i want this to work soooo bad. thanks.

yea yea.. me too.. no delay bug though?
seems like i get either outgoing or incoming delay.. i can't tell.. something seems quirky though..
(ppc6700 here)

[darkjedi]

I have none of these problems on my TyTN :D

[squint]

Well - it seems that this messaging program has broke my SMS capabilities. I have an 8125 on the AT&T Network.

Palm wouldn't send any messages - so I hard reset and restored a backup from before I installed it.
Now I get the message "Your text message cannot be sent" even from the default mail program.

I HARD reset and then tried to send an email from the unit WITHOUT restoring - same error.

I'm at a loss on how to put it back together - I can't live without text messaging!

[hannip]

I have none of these problems on my TyTN :D

Do you have the "Create chats from messages" set to "never"? The outgoing sms messages seem to work fine with that setting. It's only when you start a chat where the sends get stuck in the outbox waiting for something to send them out.

If your sends are from a chat window and are not getting stuck in the outbox then let us know your secret! Maybe a reg export to examine?

[darkjedi]

I have "Only if I have replied" selected. And it's always been like that too :)

[malatesta]

I have "Only if I have replied" selected. And it's always been like that too :)

well shi*t, you should upload a Reg export for the Palm area in your registry so we can take a looksy!

[darkjedi]

This is on a fresh TyTN rom, from july'ish. SMS and MMS are working great actually.

[Kings Lee]

The file was removed from ftp 2 hours ago... I just can't get it. Anyone please send it to my e-mail... thank you very very much!

dummy@prs.no-ip.com

Thanks once again!

[kac]

You're going to have to wait for someone else to host it. ;-) lbpz

[oo3]

I just realized I don't have a proxy tab in my Connections settings. Anyone know how to activate it?

[jamesus]

The file was removed from ftp 2 hours ago... I just can't get it. Anyone please send it to my e-mail... thank you very very much!

dummy@prs.no-ip.com

Thanks once again!

Check out this thread...

http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-6700-xv6700/80693-treo-750v-threaded-sms-app-get-here-4.html#post581267

[nmeister]

Just so you know takmsdsm from pdaphonehome claims:


I figured out SMS to email messaging for sprint
go to options, go to advance, go to manual, hit edit
under Email center number, put "6245"
hit ok, hit ok, and you are done


I havent tried it (I uninstalled and am waiting for a fix for the sms messages to be sent immediately). On my sprint 6700, I was able to receive MMS messages fine using the automatic network configuration.

[hesh]

Here's a list of the SMS Message Center and SMS Email Center numbers for these North American carriers: AT&T, Cingular, T-Mobile, Rogers Wireless (Canada) and Fido (Microcell - Canada).

http://kb.palmone.com/SRVS/Data/Palm/KnowledgeBases/PalmSupportKB/document/htmlimport/6487.html

Also, I installed it and only had one issue with sending a message and it sent late. Other than that, sending was instant.

The biggest problem I had was with sending MMS messages. I could receive them just fine but I couldn't add a picture to a message. I could get the drop down box to pick a location (main memory or storage card) but the screen wouldn't refresh so I couldn't actually see anything at all. Also, when picking from the default location (My Pictures), the pictures wouldn't show up.

I ended up restoring a backup I made just before installing it. I hope all the issues everyone is having can be fixed and I would like to see Palm release it everyone and not just limit it to the Treo.

[takmsdsm]

I figured out SMS to email messaging for sprint

go to options, go to advance, go to manual, hit edit

under Email center number, put "6245"

hit ok, hit ok, and you are done


oops, didnt see someone already had posted me ;)

[nmeister]

The biggest problem I had was with sending MMS messages. I could receive them just fine but I couldn't add a picture to a message. I could get the drop down box to pick a location (main memory or storage card) but the screen wouldn't refresh so I couldn't actually see anything at all. Also, when picking from the default location (My Pictures), the pictures wouldn't show up.


Do you by any chance have one of the dialer skins installed for big buttons and smartdialing?

[jamesus]

Here's a list of the SMS Message Center and SMS Email Center numbers for these North American carriers: AT&T, Cingular, T-Mobile, Rogers Wireless (Canada) and Fido (Microcell - Canada).

http://kb.palmone.com/SRVS/Data/Palm/KnowledgeBases/PalmSupportKB/document/htmlimport/6487.html

Also, I installed it and only had one issue with sending a message and it sent late. Other than that, sending was instant.

The biggest problem I had was with sending MMS messages. I could receive them just fine but I couldn't add a picture to a message. I could get the drop down box to pick a location (main memory or storage card) but the screen wouldn't refresh so I couldn't actually see anything at all. Also, when picking from the default location (My Pictures), the pictures wouldn't show up.

I ended up restoring a backup I made just before installing it. I hope all the issues everyone is having can be fixed and I would like to see Palm release it everyone and not just limit it to the Treo.

When you said you only had one issue, and that the message was sent late, was it in chat style? If it was, did you have to manually send the message or did it send the message for you?

[hesh]

Do you by any chance have one of the dialer skins installed for big buttons and smartdialing?

Yeah, I do. I'm using the ge077 Smart Dial Rus+Eten skin. Is that the problem?

[hesh]

When you said you only had one issue, and that the message was sent late, was it in chat style? If it was, did you have to manually send the message or did it send the message for you?

Yeah, I was in chat style but I didn't have to manually send it. It ended up sending itself a few minutes later. That was the only time I had the problem.

[nmeister]

Yeah, I do. I'm using the ge077 Smart Dial Rus+Eten skin. Is that the problem?

That is one of your problems. That is what is causing the Pictures and Videos application to not work properly.

[squint]

Just talked to Cingular - they gave me the text message service number for AT&T:
+19703769301

[nmeister]

I figured out SMS to email messaging for sprint
go to options, go to advance, go to manual, hit edit
under Email center number, put "6245"
hit ok, hit ok, and you are done

oops, didnt see someone already had posted me ;)

I remember seeing people on here ask about it specifically, so I hope you dont mind that I posted your stuff already (good thing I gave you credit, that would have been embarrassing).

[hesh]

That is one of your problems. That is what is causing the Pictures and Videos application to not work properly.

Weak! I guess I need to figure out which is more important: the smartdial keypad or threaded SMS. Hmmm...

I guess it wouldn't hurt to uninstall the smartdial skin, install the Palm SMS, and reinstall the smartdial skin to see if that makes a difference lol

[RF9]

So it appears the download link has been removed per Palm's crying.

They should just sell the darn thing if they don't want us to pirate it, hell I'd buy it. Not everyone wants their outdated hardware just for a good SMS app (which the hardware by the way isn't even available in the US yet.) :mad:
If someone can PM. I'd like to get the app and support app(s). Thanks a million!

[nmeister]

Weak! I guess I need to figure out which is more important: the smartdial keypad or threaded SMS. Hmmm...

I guess it wouldn't hurt to uninstall the smartdial skin, install the Palm SMS, and reinstall the smartdial skin to see if that makes a difference lol

No need to choose, I dont know if it is the best solution, but I havent had any problems doing this. Just rename the file "\Windows\Mfc80u.dll" to something else (I use "\Windows\Mfc80u.dll_") and your pictures and video app will work again. Like I said, I am not claiming there are no other side effects of the dialer, but I havent had any and this seems to fix the issue.

[hesh]

No need to choose, I dont know if it is the best solution, but I havent had any problems doing this. Just rename the file "\Windows\Mfc80u.dll" to something else (I use "\Windows\Mfc80u.dll_") and your pictures and video app will work again. Like I said, I am not claiming there are no other side effects of the dialer, but I havent had any and this seems to fix the issue.

Interesting. Are you using a different dialer skin too?

[hesh]

So it appears the download link has been removed per Palm's crying.

They should just sell the darn thing if they don't want us to pirate it, hell I'd buy it. Not everyone wants their outdated hardware just for a good SMS app (which the hardware by the way isn't even available in the US yet.) :mad:
If someone can PM. I'd like to get the app and support app(s). Thanks a million!

There's a link on the previous page that should help you out :)

[herofromsomeday]

So it appears the download link has been removed per Palm's crying.

They should just sell the darn thing if they don't want us to pirate it, hell I'd buy it. Not everyone wants their outdated hardware just for a good SMS app (which the hardware by the way isn't even available in the US yet.) :mad:
If someone can PM. I'd like to get the app and support app(s). Thanks a million!

check your message box ;)

[nmeister]

Interesting. Are you using a different dialer skin too?

Yeah, I am using a gray/black big button skin with smartdialer that a friend modified

[roopesh]

Can you please send me the app too?

Thanks!

[hesh]

I have a question about the registry editing (renaming the SMS and MMS keys). Renaming these keys prevents the standard app from opening. Does that mean if these keys are NOT renamed, you can essentially have both apps and switch between the two?

[Kings Lee]

With my Dopod 838 Pro, it works great! It sends every message without delay. I did not try to send to myself but to another mobile no.

But I cannot send SMS from my phone book... looking for ways to deal with it. Any idea?

Symptoms:
"Send Text Message" option just dones't work anymore.

[Kings Lee]

I have a question about the registry editing (renaming the SMS and MMS keys). Renaming these keys prevents the standard app from opening. Does that mean if these keys are NOT renamed, you can essentially have both apps and switch between the two?

No, it seems that if you don't do the editing, no SMS will go to the Palm one.

[hesh]

Hmmm... I can't seem to get MMS working. nmeister's trick worked for being able to select pics, etc but now they're not sending. I think it's important to mention I'm using a T-mobile ROM from the Wizard Upgrading forum though I did rip out various settings for Cingular.

I'll just have to mess around with it a bit more.

[yak86]

Hey. Soo excited about this app. I've been calling this since I saw the first shots of the 750v. anyways.. guess i came to the party a bit late. can someone send me the app?

Thanks!

[deemota]

There has to be someone here that can provide the correct T-Mobile MMS settings...........PLEASE

[slypher]

There has to be someone here that can provide the correct T-Mobile MMS settings...........PLEASE

Message center number: +12063130004
Email center number: *left blank*
MMS gateway address: 216.155.165.50
MMS URL: http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms
Network Profile: The Internet

another Tmobile user reported that these settings worked, i can't test them because i have sprint...good luck.

[hay112]

Message center number: +12063130004
Email center number: *left blank*
MMS gateway address: 216.155.165.50
MMS URL: http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms
Network Profile: The Internet

another Tmobile user reported that these settings worked, i can't test them because i have sprint...good luck.

I can verify these settings do NOT work...thanks anyway though

[ginune16]

can someone pm me the app? thank you!!

[slypher]

I can verify these settings do NOT work...thanks anyway though

sorry, i'll keep my eyes open and post any other settings that i find

[beatrix]

awesome app but its kinda annoying to resend it from the outbox when reply from a thread. i notice that the only way to automatically send the pending messages in the outbox is to send a new message. but thats somehow sense less. anyway, someone has to figure this out...

[scottyjchef]

Please may I have too? thx

[btate0121]

I think this warrants my first post. can I get an assist on this program? thanks in advance!

[yaronovitz]

I had a Treo 650 and loved the messaging app so I loaded this on my Prophet. I'm not so happy with the lack of massage previewing due to virtual keyboard. How can I totally remove the program without hard resetting? When I try from "remove programs" it won't remove.

[dialekt]

can someone please pm me the app & tell me how it compares to triangle powers and textmans app?

[Nutdhanai]

Hi guys,

This sounds v cool... can someone pm me the app too please?
Thanks in advance.
NR

[jan.uetz]

Hello everyone!

I was hoping someone could help me with this. I use an HTC TyTN and since yesterday the Palm Messaging app - thanks for all the great work on this. It works like a charm.

My question is this: We use Good Mobile Messaging (formerly GoodLink) on our phones, and after installation of Good on WM5 all contact links and buttons point to Good Contacts. However, in the Palm Messaging app this doesn't work. If you wan't to add a recipient, it still points to the Outlook contacts (which of course on my device is empty, as I only use the Good Contact app for all my contacts). Also, when receiving an SMS, you only see the phone number, but not the name of the sender (I take it this is obvious, seeing that the contacts aren't connected to the messaging app).

Can anyone help and tell me how I might fix this?
Thanks in advance,

Jan

[julianc]

i'd like to give the app a spin, how can i get one to try ???

[Mav350z]

Hi could someome kindly pm me the app as well & supporting apps if any, thanks in advance.

Had a treo 600 back in the day, kept it for 2yrs, keyboard made life very easy and sms threader was the best.

This is my first post, yes im a newbie, but damn this forums' the nuts! Praise all you techies who aid 'padda ones' like me!

Currently using SPV M600, wish it had a keyboard, and the sms threader.

[jpurv]

i'd like to give the app a spin, how can i get one to try ???
Ditto. I'm also late to the party and would like to try this out. If someone could PM it to me it would be greatly appreciated.

[doubleu]

For T-Mobile Users? (I'm a Sprint user so i can't verify)

(quoted from a friend)

http://tmobileus.wdsglobal.com/phonefirst
Scroll to MMSC URL and enter http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms
Scroll to WAP Gateway and enter 216.155.165.050
Scroll to Port and enter 8080
Scroll to Access point and enter wap.voicestream.com
are the settings from tmo itself :)

[gershee]

No, it seems that if you don't do the editing, no SMS will go to the Palm one.

Not true. I have not changed any registry settings and all SMS's go directly the the threading program and my 'old' inbox does nothing..

[hay112]

For T-Mobile Users? (I'm a Sprint user so i can't verify)

(quoted from a friend)

http://tmobileus.wdsglobal.com/phonefirst
Scroll to MMSC URL and enter http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms
Scroll to WAP Gateway and enter 216.155.165.050
Scroll to Port and enter 8080
Scroll to Access point and enter wap.voicestream.com
are the settings from tmo itself :)


yeah these are the setting i'm using right now actually, but for some reason they still aren't working....i dunno why..../frustrated

thanks again for the help though

[slypher]

I don't know if anyone has examined this yet, but below is the reg settings located in the Treo 750. I'm hoping that someone who understands the settings better can make the sms app work with the sms trigger to get the chat to work better.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{283E 0018-E5C9-44e4-9864-4C4A3DED3BC3}]
"Wave"="\\Windows\\Treo Classic.mid"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Palm\Messaging]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Palm\Messaging\Prefs]
"CreateChatEnum"=dword:00000003

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Palm\Varnish\Messaging \MMS]
"MMSProxy"=""
"MMSC"=""
"RequestReadReceiptAvailable"=dword:00000000
"RequestDeliveryReceiptAvailable"=dword:00000000
"MaxVideoSize"=dword:00019000
"MaxPictWidth"=dword:00000280
"MaxPictHeight"=dword:000001E0
"MaxMsgSize"=dword:00019000
"MaxAudioSize"=dword:00019000
"IsWAVSupported"=dword:00000000
"IsPictResolutionLimited"=dword:00000001
"APN"="MEdia Net"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Palm\Varnish\Messaging \General]
"UseVodaphoneVoicemail"=dword:00000000
"IsGSM"=dword:00000000
"ValidityPeriodAvailable"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:M ESSAGING]
"4"=hex:00,C8,AA,78,9D,EF,C6,01
"3"=dword:00000000
"2"=dword:00000002
"1"="messaging.exe"
"0"=""

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\PushRouter\Registratio ns\ByCTAndAppId\application/vnd.oma.drm.rights+xml;]
@="LS6021023"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\PushRouter\Registratio ns\ByCTAndAppId\application/vnd.oma.drm.rights+wbxml;]
@="LS3141592654"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\PushRouter\Registratio ns\ByGenericId\LS6021023]
"GenId"="LS6021023"
"AppId"=""
"Path"="smsTrigger.exe"
"Params"="/xml"
"ContentTypes"="application/vnd.oma.drm.rights+xml"
"RefCount"=dword:00000001
"Trust"=dword:00000002


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\PushRouter\Registratio ns\ByGenericId\LS3141592654]
"GenId"="LS3141592654"
"AppId"=""
"Path"="smsTrigger.exe"
"Params"="/wbxml"
"ContentTypes"="application/vnd.oma.drm.rights+wbxml"
"RefCount"=dword:00000001
"Trust"=dword:00000002

[Mav350z]

Ok, thank you very much for pm me.

Its not installing on my SPV M600, i have downloaded 3 seperate identical cabs and it's not installing.

I've got 24MB on my device, and 400MB on my SD Card.

Can anyone help? Anyone having the same probs?

I've pretty much spent the whole day reading loads of forums, i have only come across a few Prophets with this installed, but it works for them.

I've had my unit for some time, no probs with it, have customised it following instructons from the wise and have been successful every time, but there's always a first!

Slypher sorry for ruinin ure flow, feel like a rite idiot posting this wen ure on another level!

Thanks in advance for any help for a noob.

Cheers, Mav.

[jamesus]

slypher...I posted and credited you on PPCgeeks as well...fingers crossed.

[slypher]

slypher...I posted and credited you on PPCgeeks as well...fingers crossed.

I'm thinking with all these great brains working together, we won't have to wait to long. Thanks for giving credit ;-)

-s

[jamesus]

I'm thinking with all these great brains working together, we won't have to wait to long. Thanks for giving credit ;-)

-s

Too bad everyone can't just adopt one massive thread and work together...that should help! They're getting closer, I can feel it!

[btate0121]

can someone pm me the file pleeeease?

[bshaf]

Has anyone been able to sent an MMS on Cingular?? I have used the settings posted earlier in this thread and have had no luck. PLEASE HELP. Thanks!

[darkjedi]

I'm on Cingular, and I can send just fine :) and receive too :)

[bshaf]

what settings are you using?? And what is your network profile set to??

[darkjedi]

My network profile is set to MyISP, and these are the settings I used here:

https://onlinecare.cingular.com/support/deviceConfig.do?content=KB56044.html

But for the gateway address, I added the address, and put :80 at the end of it for the port number. Works like a charm :)

[bshaf]

is your MMS Gateway address 66.209.11.61:80??? I also have my Network Profile set to MediaNet... Is that a problem?

[darkjedi]

wireless.cingular.com:80 is what I used.

[bshaf]

This may be a dumb question, but how do you know its working. I created a MMS and it just sitting in my Outbox not going anywhere. I do a resend, but it just sits there. I have all of those settings.

[squint]

I have AT&T still - I tried and tried to put in MMS setting without any luck...so instead I just didn't rename the registry folder to MMS1.old - I left it alone.

This solved my problem - I get all my SMS messages with the Palm application and my MMS messages still go through Pocket Outlook.

Works perfectly.

[darkjedi]

This may be a dumb question, but how do you know its working. I created a MMS and it just sitting in my Outbox not going anywhere. I do a resend, but it just sits there. I have all of those settings.
How do I know? because I sent it, my friend called me afterwards, told me me got it, then sent me one, and I got it.

[gameboy213]

I'm on Cingular, and I can send just fine :) and receive too :)

You are NOT getting the threading conversation send message hang? Where the message stays in the outbox until being resent?

[dialekt]

im on t-mobile and im not even getting texts

tried sending some to myself and waiting for roomate to respond. Nothing :( i really want to experience this program. using the settings that were posted for t-mobile in here several times. what am i doing wrong?

[squint]

You are NOT getting the threading conversation send message hang? Where the message stays in the outbox until being resent?

I installed the first version. The messages hang up if I send them from an existing thread. If I send a message that isn't from an existing thread, both the messages go though....

Cingular 8125 on At&T.

[darkjedi]

You are NOT getting the threading conversation send message hang? Where the message stays in the outbox until being resent?
Nope, not at all, txt's go out immediately when I send them, and it arrives at my friends phone, moments later :)

[thetruestar]

can someone PM me the file... i would love to have this on my Wizard...


-Thanks in Advance

[kellynsytan]

hello... i really came in late... will someone be kind enough to pm or send me the cab file? kellynsytan@yahoo.com ... thanks in advance

[dialekt]

Im starting to think i may have gotten the wrong file. I have two messaging apps in my program menu ..i tried to remove from programs and it didnt delete. Sounds like i may be in for a nasty hard reset

[darkjedi]

hmmmmm http://rapidshare.com/files/46548/Palm_Messaging.ZIP.html?

[btate0121]

darkjedi... i love you.. yer the friggin man of the hour!

[darkjedi]

lol, hopefully Palm wont get pissy about that ;)

[jamesus]

lol, hopefully Palm wont get pissy about that ;)

Haha...that link is on about 4 other forums as well...oops and oh well Palm!

[herofromsomeday]

Haha...that link is on about 4 other forums as well...oops and oh well Palm!

hehe ;) . you are all welcome.

[darkjedi]

I uploaded that by the way :) Which forums? I put it on Howard Forums.

[jamesus]

I uploaded that by the way :) Which forums? I put it on Howard Forums.

There is a link in pdaphonehome and ppcgeeks as well.

[darkjedi]

I couldn't find my link on there, but hey...

[Mav350z]

Dude, darkjedi, ure a legend!

Just to let everyone know it works on the SPV M600!

BUT, the sms hangs in the Outbox as others have found earlier in this thread.

Guess its time to try the sms trigger?

Will this work? Ok, smstrigger installed in win dir (overwrites existing smstrigger.exe file - i could not back this file up but the wiser ones may know how to copy locked files), txts sent immediately and my other phone recieved txts instantly but txts stay in my outbox for some reason. Any help on this would be much appreciated.

Cheers, Mav.

[darkjedi]

I'm a bit busy at work, so if I don't answer any PM's, don't take it personally :) I'm surprised no one even though of uploading it before, lol.

[jamesus]

I couldn't find my link on there, but hey...

I don't think the other thread had your upload, rather one from the magical TreoSMSFairy...:D

[gameboy213]

I'm a bit busy at work, so if I don't answer any PM's, don't take it personally :) I'm surprised no one even though of uploading it before, lol.

I think you are the only one on these forums, or any forum for that matter, that is having no issue at all.... everyone else is having the hanging message in the outbox problem. Lucky you... now if we could just figure out why!

[gershee]

I think you are the only one on these forums, or any forum for that matter, that is having no issue at all.... everyone else is having the hanging message in the outbox problem. Lucky you... now if we could just figure out why!

I understood that the HTC TyTN's were not having the issues that other devices were. Am I wrong?

On second thought, who cares, let's just get this thing working perfect!!

[darkjedi]

Hooray for TyTN's!!!

[phat78boy]

I can't seem to extract the files from the ROM, but if someone who has can look for this file please: "mailcmdlinehook.dll". Its listed in several spots in the Treo 750 registry and I do not have a copy of it. Could be worth giving a try.

[hannip]

Hey that looks promising. It's tied to sms and mms.

Can one of the TyTN users check to see if mailcmdlinehook.dll exists on your device? Treo 700's don't have it, but it's referenced in the registry. hmm.

The file does exist in the 750 rom. It's looking more promising.

[Mav350z]

Hi peeps,

My SPV M600 has been working since my last post.

Txt's stay in the outbox now with a tick to confirm delivery , they do not move into sent items (they did before i copied over the smstrigger file), but are included in my inbox thread when opened. So the outbox messages dont really bother me for now, lets see what happens over the next few days.

Wish i had a tytn, ive got crap loads of txt's on my tariff and i hate using the stylus to type!

If anyone's got a good on screen keyboard let me know.

Oh, one major annoying thing about this sms threader for the M600 (Prophet) is that the on screen keyboard takes the place of the typing space so you cant see what you are writing. Someone on another forum was having this trouble. But it doesnt bother me im txting away!

Thanks to all the real techies on all the forums! Im just a newbie and it took me most of today to get the correct file thanx to you know who!

Cheers, Mav.

[darkjedi]

We're all newbies at once :) So it's ok.

[Mav350z]

Do you know how to get the app to save the txt threads to sd card? cus these will prob get big?

what do you think? im guessing this is a reg edit?

Thanks.

[hesh]

I installed this app on my 8125 several times and each time it worked fine. Sending and receiving text messages was always instant. I could also receive MMS messages but could NOT send them, no matter what settings I tried or which profile I tried. It just wouldn't send. I ended up restoring a backup I made before my first install of the app.

I do like this app but I also wish there were more options. For instance, once a chat was started, each received message wouldn't give me an alert, so if I put the phone down and got a message, I wouldn't hear a notification (or it wouldn't vibrate if that's what I had it set to). A notification here would be nice.

Other than that, it's a pretty nice app. Palm should clean it up and make it available to everyone.

[hesh]

Do you know how to get the app to save the txt threads to sd card? cus these will prob get big?

what do you think? im guessing this is a reg edit?

Thanks.

I could be wrong but I think the threads are just a "view." If you change the setup to never show threads, then each text message shows up as if it would with the default text inbox.

[kellynsytan]

tnx so much darkjedi.... ;)

[darkjedi]

My pleasure :D Just trying to help out the community :)

[cosmo]

Anyone know how to tie the Camera - Send MMS function to Palm's Messaging software?

When I take a photo and choose the Send MMS option, nothing happens as the Camera is presumably looking for the standards Messaging software.

[dialekt]

Im wondering also how to integrate this program with the regular contacts browsing. Like for instance when I'm looking up contacts and I wanna send a text message it hangs because i think it's trying to open up the native text messaging program rather than Palm's. All I gotta say though is that I'm extrememly happy. Have a few gripes about the full integration, as does everyone else..but so far its AMAZING. My previous posts about it not working was my fault because I only had the .cab file with no instructions on how to rename the folders to .old etc. Instructions really did help.

Im using an MDA on T-Mobile and boy this is a beautiful app. Wonder if there will be any notifications while open soon? Or able to launch it from contacts browsing etc.

THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYONE! I LOVE IT. I'm sure I'm gonna turn some heads very soon.

[fantastic_mr_q]

Can someone confirm that if you dont regedit the MMS1 folder can you still use the old messaging software for mms and use the Palm software for text?

I have a UK Vario II, I installed this morning and have no problems whatsoever other than I canot send MMS, it just gets stuck at 50% which sucks?

[fantastic_mr_q]

I am a genius and have solved my own problem!!!

Mine now works perfectly!! All I had to do was put :8080 at the end of my MMS ip address as it obviously needed to know what port to use and now all is fine!

I can send texts fine, recieve texts fine, perform text message threads and now send and recieve MMS, god bless the TyTN


Over and out

[kellynsytan]

thanks for all the input...

i tried it for smart philippines
message center number = +639180000101
email center number=
mms gateway address= 10.102.61.46:8080
mms url= http://10.102.61.238:8002
network profile= The Internet

it worked perfectly. i can receive and send mms, and of course sms....
cool app. loving it on my TYTN :)

[dialekt]

Ok This is Where I'm At. The SMS portion of the app works beautifully aside from what some people noted about no notification when you are already inside the app/thread. (Minor gripe). Also seeing that the MMS and SMS folders were renamed to old I wasn't able to get to the MMS settings. Just for kicks I went into the registry and brought it back. Edited all the PictureMessaging settings correctly and then renamed back to MMS1.old. I'm on T-Mobile. I can't send nor recieve picture messages. The :8080 trick didn't work for me. I know somewhere I went wrong. I wonder if I should test a picture message with the native messaging app just to see if it works. I'm using the Molski Rom. And To be quite honest I think I got completely screwed up/confused on my Internet & MMS settings because they were not included in this super clean rom.

Anyone have any suggestions? Anyone have cab files that do a complete restore for the standard T-Mobile USA settings & MMS settings? I think I did screw something up on the internet gprs settings. I don't have "The Internet, My Work, My ISP, and all the other standard stuff that was inside of the original stock t-mobile rom"

[Mav350z]

Hi Dialekt,

I think you should approach molski if you havnt already. Im a newbie, so dont think i can help on roms cus i didnt go there.

I did consider changing the rom on my Prophet but decided not too to take th risk as i may sell my prophet for a tytn. I have seen molski's website and work and his rom must be the best ive seen in terms of freeing up ram.

I did get this app working on my prophet, but i dont mms! so cant help again. sorry!

Once you've managed to set the app up, have a look at vijay555's 'slippypalm' app which allows you to assign the sms threader to a button, thats how ive set mine up.

Sorry cudnt help you! Good luck! Mav.

[ruirocha]

I have a problem on my tytn, i cant get the delivery notifications work.
I have all the options on but until now it seems that dont work. Anyone has it working?

[TomTheGeek]

anyone have the SMS Service number for Cingular? If you have it working on Cingular can you tell me what number you're using? Everything works except I can't send SMS messages.

[kellynsytan]

hello tried it with globe philippines

message center number: +639170000130
email center number :
mms gateway address: 192.40.100.20:8080
mms url: http://192.40.100.22:10021/mmsc
network profile: globe mms setting

it worked for me... hope it helps you :)

[TomTheGeek]

I called Cingular and they gave me a couple Text Message Service Numbers.

National: +13123149810 (This should work for anyone on Cingular)

Great Lakes Region:
+13123149600
+13123149860

I used the +13123149600 since I'm in WI, I would try the national number first unless you are in the great lakes region.

[herofromsomeday]

my today screen is now stuck on "1 unread" message for the default mail app. when i click it, the default mail app doesnt up or anything. i havnt had this problem at all until this morning when i wokeup and turned on my phone. i am running a verizon xv6700. if anyone knows how to get rid of the "1 unread" on the today screen please let me know. thanks.

[squint]

Can someone confirm that if you dont regedit the MMS1 folder can you still use the old messaging software for mms and use the Palm software for text?

I have a UK Vario II, I installed this morning and have no problems whatsoever other than I canot send MMS, it just gets stuck at 50% which sucks?

I'm going on 2 days of using the SMS with Palm and the MMS in outlook. Even using the camera functio. I just gave up on using the Palm sofwares MMS function...if it aint broke, dont fix it.

[gameboy213]

my today screen is now stuck on "1 unread" message for the default mail app. when i click it, the default mail app doesnt up or anything. i havnt had this problem at all until this morning when i wokeup and turned on my phone. i am running a verizon xv6700. if anyone knows how to get rid of the "1 unread" on the today screen please let me know. thanks.

It has been stuck on 1 SMS UNREAD for me since I installed it 3 days ago.... and when I tap it nothing happens, and the app won't open. Have to go into the start menu to launch it.

[takmsdsm]

I don't think the other thread had your upload, rather one from the magical TreoSMSFairy...:D


who could that magical TreoSMSFairy be? *wink*

[dmfbm]

all u need to do is open the original app. mine somehow sent some txt to the original. a soft reset fixed that prob. so open the original and it should fix it

[jian]

I've followed the instructions for installing this to the letter, however, no matter how many times I've tried, SMS are still not being delivered to the Palm Messaging app - it keeps getting delivered to the standard Windows application.

I've checked in the registry and a new folder titled 'SMS' appears (this is in addition to 'mms1.old' and 'sms.old'). I've tried deleting the 'SMS' key but it just keeps reappearing.

Advice anyone?

Thanks

[tommyd75]

Hey guys can this be sued with wm2003se device?

I have the cab, but it wont install on my hp hw6515. I click on it and it says " The file........ is not a valid Windows CE Setup file"

I tried on another older ipaq I have and I get the same results?

Do I need wm5?
My ipaq only has wm2003se

Thanks in advance for any help.

[evilecho]

can anyone post their network config. for sprintpcs thankx

[fantastic_mr_q]

I've followed the instructions for installing this to the letter, however, no matter how many times I've tried, SMS are still not being delivered to the Palm Messaging app - it keeps getting delivered to the standard Windows application.

I've checked in the registry and a new folder titled 'SMS' appears (this is in addition to 'mms1.old' and 'sms.old'). I've tried deleting the 'SMS' key but it just keeps reappearing.

Advice anyone?

Thanks

I sadly have exactly the sme problem, I have absolutely everything working fine, no delays no problems with threads and mms works in and out, when I reset my device though my old SMS program takes over and my device takes it upon itself to create a new SMS folder in my HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Inbox registry! The SMS.old is still there and simply deleting the new SMS folder makes everything return back to how I want it.
Can I either stop it from making this new SMS folder or if not make a small app that I can put in startup on the device that deletes the new SMS from the registry automatically so I don't hav 2?

Any ideas you marvelous people?

[fantastic_mr_q]

When trying to add a sound to an MMS if you select choose sound .wav files are not shown and if you try to record a new file u get a RECBAR.dll is missing, will ripping this file from the Treo make it work or is this part Model Specific?

Cheers u lovely People!

[hannip]

I tried it with the RecBar stuff added and I get a recording app, but when I click on record I get the error "Failed initializating the recording subsystem."

So either it's a device specific thing or there are some other files missing. I did a dependency check on RecBar.dll however and it doesn't seem to be dependant on anything else that isn't part of the OS.

[kinmont]

please pm or email cab to timnsd92104@hotmail.com Thank you

[darkjedi]

Look at page 18, it's still there on the rapidshare link I posted; and it's still active. So please don't PM me asking for it, as you guys should do a little reading before requesting. Thanks :).

[nelsonlye]

Anyone encouter a problem when send MMS...

Cause the old MMS application able for you to set the MMS picture size to lower, medium & high resolution... when u attache a pic...the software will auto resize it to lower resoltuion...so can send out....

[vijay555]

LoneRanger or whoever is around, I advise you to knock together a cab to revert the settings installed by the Palm Messaging Cab.

GUYS - take a backup of your system before you install this app. It's difficult to remove it afterwards without a backup. At least dump your registry first.

Please note that VJSlippyPalm is not a tool for removing the Palm Messaging app. It's just an easy way to swap which app is loaded.

V

[fantastic_mr_q]

LoneRanger or whoever is around, I advise you to knock together a cab to revert the settings installed by the Palm Messaging Cab.

GUYS - take a backup of your system before you install this app. It's difficult to remove it afterwards without a backup. At least dump your registry first.

Please note that VJSlippyPalm is not a tool for removing the Palm Messaging app. It's just an easy way to swap which app is loaded.

V

VIJAY555, I love your work, u reckon its poss to have a look at this for me?

when I reset my device though my old SMS program takes over and my device takes it upon itself to create a new SMS folder in my HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Inbox registry! The SMS.old is still there and simply deleting the new SMS folder makes everything return back to how I want it.
Can I either stop it from making this new SMS folder or if not make a small app that I can put in startup on the device that deletes the new SMS from the registry automatically so I don't hav 2?

[greatbal]

i installed the cab file on my WM5 XDA2s. SMS and MMS worked perfectly. i didn't even have to use the smstrigger.exe, changing notification sound also had no problems. :)

[gershee]

Has anyone been able to send MMS on Sprint using this software?
I tried editing the registry and using the proper Sprint info, yet I cannot get any MMS to send.
When I have it set to 'automatic', the MMS just hangs in the outbox. When I have it set to 'manual', the messaging software just closes when I try to send.
Anyone?

[fantastic_mr_q]

Has anyone been able to send MMS on Sprint using this software?
I tried editing the registry and using the proper Sprint info, yet I cannot get any MMS to send.
When I have it set to 'automatic', the MMS just hangs in the outbox. When I have it set to 'manual', the messaging software just closes when I try to send.
Anyone?

You need to put your port number at the end of your MMS Gateway Address IE. MMS Gateway = 149.254.201.135:8080 (obvioulsly use this as a basis of what ever network u are on will be IP.AD.RE.SS:PORT)

That help?

[gershee]

You need to put your port number at the end of your MMS Gateway Address IE. MMS Gateway = 149.254.201.135:8080 (obvioulsly use this as a basis of what ever network u are on will be IP.AD.RE.SS:PORT)

That help?

Nope I don't think it does. Sprint uses standard port 80 I believe and does not require anything after the MMS URL.. Thanks anyway though..

[trojan9x]

What is the difference between this app (that has been removed) and the one here on freewareppc.com?

http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/smsthreader.shtml

[fantastic_mr_q]

Nope I don't think it does. Sprint uses standard port 80 I believe and does not require anything after the MMS URL.. Thanks anyway though..

You need http://mms.sprintpcs.com/servlets/mms:80 and it will work, if it dont you need to either check the internet connection you are using or try and reinstall it cos if it kicks you out youve gone wrong somewhere,

[gershee]

You need http://mms.sprintpcs.com/servlets/mms:80 and it will work, if it dont you need to either check the internet connection you are using or try and reinstall it cos if it kicks you out youve gone wrong somewhere,

Tried it. Did not work. I am still waiting for a Sprint user on a 6700 to confirm that they got this working.
Anyone?

[jamesus]

who could that magical TreoSMSFairy be? *wink*

Gee...I wonder. Three guesses and the first 2 don't count?

[alexc]

I have been using this app on a 700w (v1.10) for the weekend, and have found it to work pretty well.

Here's what my experience has been.

I have gotten the two exe crashes, replaced the SMS program - (did I really put it where it's supposed to go, who knows?). I haven't gotten a crash since then.

I have noted the "stuck SMS" last night.

I also have not had any luck getting the 1 SMS unstuck.

I did not reconfigure any of my settings - left it on "automatic" and it worked fine for verizon. No where in this thread, has anyone posted any verizon specific information.

-Alex

[warmkiwi99]

works great! only thing i have noticed is that the soft keyboard pops up over the top of the reply text area so you can't see what you're typing.

...or am i doing something exceedingly stupid?

[hannip]

VIJAY555, I love your work, u reckon its poss to have a look at this for me?

when I reset my device though my old SMS program takes over and my device takes it upon itself to create a new SMS folder in my HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Inbox registry! The SMS.old is still there and simply deleting the new SMS folder makes everything return back to how I want it.
Can I either stop it from making this new SMS folder or if not make a small app that I can put in startup on the device that deletes the new SMS from the registry automatically so I don't hav 2?

I found that using the 750 poutlook.exe fixes the problem for me where a soft reset would make poutlook take over sms. No more having to rename the SMS folder in the registry.

Try this cab and let me know if it solves the problem for you. As always backup before installing any of these cabs.

Edit: hmm, well it worked over several resets, but it seems poutlook will still takeover sometimes. :(

Edit2: ok, I really found the solution now. The 750 tmail app doesn't include a text message account even if there is an SMS folder in the registry so there is no confusion where the text messages should go.
I'll create a cab with my changes later. I need to figure out how to get the 750 tmail to boot and not the one in rom. I can start it manually after killing the rom version and have tested it to play nice with the Palm messaging app.

[mccune]

Great little app!

Two cons to this program though ;)

1 - You still need the "normal" SMS app to send vCards via SMS when using AKU3.2
2 - Mentioned before, the virtual keyboard blocks the input field, so you have to guess what you're typing.

Also noticed that my HTC Wizard (AKU3.2) has no problem with this app, but my HTC Prophet (AKU2.0) does. On the Prophet I've noticed the delay in sending a SMS. about 50% are never received by the other party :(

[gameboy213]

Also noticed that my HTC Wizard (AKU3.2) has no problem with this app, but my HTC Prophet (AKU2.0) does. On the Prophet I've noticed the delay in sending a SMS. about 50% are never received by the other party :(

I am thinking this is an AKU issue... at least the threaded sending issue is.

[darkjedi]

I think the Treo 750 is at least on AKU 2.3 or 2.6 so that could explain it.

[hannip]

I am thinking this is an AKU issue... at least the threaded sending issue is.

Yeah, I've suspected that also. I've been trying various 750 dll's over on a AKU 2 device to see which will fix the problem. No luck so far, but the 750's tmail app does solve the soft reset issue where the mail app would take over the sms receiving.

[pinhead]

I have gotten rid of the program for now. As cool as it is and as appreciated the work that went into getting it is I MUST have reliable SMS. For now I am just going to have to wait. It was fun to play with though. Thanks!

[vijay555]

Likewise. I got rid of it immediately after writing VJSlippyPalm. In the UK o2 indicates voicemails by SMS. I never got the sms, so missed calls AND sms :(

V

[hannip]

hmm, I haven't had any problems with this app missing sms messages. They would either go to the palm app or the mail app, but never missed.

[gameboy213]

yeah... if it isn't threading it seems to work fine for me on Sprint.... but Verichat is all screwed up... oh well.

[fantastic_mr_q]

I found that using the 750 poutlook.exe fixes the problem for me where a soft reset would make poutlook take over sms. No more having to rename the SMS folder in the registry.

Try this cab and let me know if it solves the problem for you. As always backup before installing any of these cabs.

Edit: hmm, well it worked over several resets, but it seems poutlook will still takeover sometimes. :(

Edit2: ok, I really found the solution now. The 750 tmail app doesn't include a text message account even if there is an SMS folder in the registry so there is no confusion where the text messages should go.
I'll create a cab with my changes later. I need to figure out how to get the 750 tmail to boot and not the one in rom. I can start it manually after killing the rom version and have tested it to play nice with the Palm messaging app.


Any joy on this as yet, as I still have to edit my Registry with every reset, program still works lovely though?

PS, where is an Update for the Tytn that is 3.2?? I didnt know it was about as yet?

[darkjedi]

From what I know, AKU3.2 doesn't even exist. If you look at the build numbers of AKU2.6 and AKU3.0, they don't jump at all; however if you look at the build of AKU3.2, it makes a HUGE jump. It's a hacked version from what I know, and every time I try to look for screenshots of AKU3.2, I can't find a single one; and no one mentions it besides on XDA-Developers. I mean, AKU3.0 JUST came out, why would they have AKU3.2 already? I personally don't believe it's real, until someone proves me wrong.

[deemota]

yeah... if it isn't threading it seems to work fine for me on Sprint.... but Verichat is all screwed up... oh well.


gameboy213 asked me to post here about my experience. I have an iPAQ 6945 and the program works flawlessly. The only thing I can't get to work is MMS. Won't matter much to me soon, i'll be selling my iPAQ. I just got the T-Mobile Dash.