USB Stupidity -> 3.5mm stereo jack convertor [Archive]

g00nerz

22-10-2006, 06:30 PM

8Ball

22-10-2006, 10:12 PM

Is it possible to make a converter which allows charging and audio out?

TheBrit

23-10-2006, 12:15 AM

Is it possible to make a converter which allows charging and audio out?

This one perhaps? http://www.mobileplanet.com/product.asp?code=140425

frustin

23-10-2006, 10:12 AM

This one perhaps? http://www.mobileplanet.com/product.asp?code=140425

now they just need to incorperate it into a car holder.

I want one of those FM transmitters, so i can make calls and hear them via my car-radio, and charge at the same time.

mrdo

25-10-2006, 12:51 AM

i bought one of these and it's not worth the money to be honest.

it's quite loose fitting so that anything touching the adaptor can cause the headphones to cut out / switch to a single side, etc.

still, i suppose it's better than nothing until something better comes along.

richy240

30-10-2006, 05:38 PM

now they just need to incorperate it into a car holder.

I want one of those FM transmitters, so i can make calls and hear them via my car-radio, and charge at the same time.

That'd also be nice for streaming audio over the net.

g00nerz

09-11-2006, 01:53 PM

Add postage on and it's almost £15. It's a whole lot of money for something so small. I'm debating on whether to buy this or whether to spend £20 on a soldering iron, Helping hands, 4m silver solder and female 3.5" adapter to customise the included 'phones.

I've already done a quick (and somewhat untidy) job with an old soldering iron and some stone age solder last used in the 70's... Sounds Ok. Although the Vario 2's sound chip isn't exactly up to much through my Sennheiser's (using PocketMusic's EQ). It's certainly no match for my iRiver iHP120 which produces a lovely deep bass.

Perhaps I should try a different piece of EQing software?

I've spent around £17 on getting a soldering kit, Helping Hands, solder, plug etc and now have a nicely finished handsfree/headphone cable with a 3.5mm female plug. Well worth it actually, because apart from being able to use my superb Sennheiser noise cancelling 'phones with my Vario II, I've actually learnt a great new skill... Soldering!

Link to the method I used from 4winmobile. (http://www.4winmobile.com/tutorial-replace-hermes-headset-connector-with-35mm-socket-vt3146.html)
Link to the other short cable method at tracy&matt (http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/08/18/orange_spv_m3100_headphone_adapter_hack)

Not as hard or as intimidating as I first imagined. I'm probably the clumsiest bloke in the world with huge hands, so if I can do it anyone can!

P.S. If you're gonna do this, you simply MUST buy a Helping Hands... £3.99 at toolspot.co.uk (http://www.toolspot.co.uk/product/helping-hands-with-magnifyer-standard-double-blister). Bargain!

quinxy

10-11-2006, 06:34 AM

Probably not needed, but I must second the complaint about the Expansys adapter. It's much larger (longer) than it needs to be, and it is very loose in the socket, any slight pull in any direction will cause it to cut-out. Better than nothing, but only just. I hope someone improves upon this very soon. I like the "do it yourself" adapter, but am not yet fully prepared to destroy my wired headset. I guess no one knows a place to buy these weird connectors for making your own cable without destroying your wired headset?

hknoener

23-11-2006, 12:00 PM

There is any way to ship it to Brazil? I've been looking in the Ebay and find nothing about that converter. Also looked in the stores and none of them ships to Brazil. I really don't wanna cut the original Headset. If anyone knows a way to do that, i'll appreciate that...

vo1968

24-11-2006, 12:39 PM

anyone tried a Moto V3 headset or adapter?

hknoener

24-11-2006, 07:26 PM

anyone tried a Moto V3 headset or adapter?

The pinout is different, doesn't match...

vo1968

25-11-2006, 07:01 PM

thought the v3 was a mini usb fitting!! i've ordered one!!! OH DEAR!!

Lurker0

25-11-2006, 07:23 PM

Hermes headset socket is NOT MiniUSB! Only data and power part of this socket is MiniUSB-compatible.

Just take a look inside and you'll see it.

hrobins

29-11-2006, 09:18 AM

Hi all.

Could anyone please direct me to information on the actual pinout of this socket on the device? I plan to try and make a cable or 2. Perhaps for my car and / or another set of high quality ear buds.

TIA.

hayden.

Lurker0

29-11-2006, 12:54 PM

The pinout should be similar to Artemis: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284512

jompao

29-11-2006, 02:31 PM

IQ seagull to not make the 3.5 connector comeout a 90 degreee angle compared to the connector...

As it looks now and you have a straight connector on your headset it will be what 6-7 cm ... Quite useless to have in your pocket.

hknoener

29-11-2006, 04:12 PM

Use this one until you find another... :D
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config

hrobins

30-11-2006, 06:49 AM

thanks guys. That’s perfect.

If I am successful I will post the final outcome.

cheers.

SkizZO

03-12-2006, 02:02 AM

Use this one until you find another... :D
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/09/10/htc_hermes_usb_connector_pin_config

hi! into the mini-usb jack of my tytn i see only 5 pins... i hope i need a cable from mini-usb to usb (wich type of usb jack is that??)

If i give the EXACT input into +5v(A) & GND(E) and at the same time connect the audio pins to my car stereo nothing of dangerous should happen....
am i right?

SkizZO

04-12-2006, 04:46 PM

Hemm the mini-usb jack to PC is different from mini-usb of the headphone.

So i have to buy a cable with a similar jack (as the headphone), cut it to the other side, verify the pins with a tester and connect the alimentation, audio etc. to my car :D

quinxy

05-12-2006, 07:37 AM

I'm guessing the answer is no, but as I want to create an all in one charge and listen to music cable for the car, I need the connector on the TyTn end, and was hoping to use the connector from the crappy headphones, but I'm guessing they didn't bother connecting any wires to the pins they weren't going to use for audio. Is that right?

And if it is right, any way to get one of those connectors from some cheap/local source (Radio Shack, Fry's, etc.)?

Also, to charge the device, I'm guessing I'll need to buy and break apart a car to USB charger, to get the regulated 5v I need, right?

Quincy

SkizZO

05-12-2006, 05:52 PM

I hope there are any cable for the alimentation connected to headphone jack.. also i have to do a car cable, and i want to buy a miniusb cable to cut it.
4 alimentation, you need an output of +5v,1A you can take it from a car adapter.

Prerna

16-12-2006, 10:31 AM

Has anyone tested the one from doml.com?

It looks not too bad, although it is a bit expansive...

URPREY

16-12-2006, 06:10 PM

URPREY

16-12-2006, 06:22 PM

Here's a couple pics of my setup in my car. This is a powered Proclips/Brodit holder with the HTC/8525 included y-cable.

Vavavoom

16-12-2006, 06:30 PM

Hi

I just spent hours modifying the original usb connector taken from the headset. My aim was to modify it to charge the hermes while connected to my car stereo. I managed to open the connector and solder on two extra cables for charging. My problem now is that the phone doesn't recognise the headset any-more.

So here my question: how does the phone recognise that the headset is connected? Do I need to bridge any connections (e.g. on the usb data side etc.) for the phone to switch from internal loudspeaker to output throught the connector? Any help greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Ralf

SkizZO

17-12-2006, 01:12 AM

Here's a couple pics of my setup in my car. This is a powered Proclips/Brodit holder with the HTC/8525 included y-cable.

is this the Y cable brought by expansis??? The connector under the PDA is Large comapred to the image on the site.

URPREY

17-12-2006, 02:51 AM

is this the Y cable brought by expansis??? The connector under the PDA is Large comapred to the image on the site.
Yes, it's the same piece. The connector under the phone is part of the Brodit car holder. The actual end of it used to look just like any USB cable, but I had to modify it to fit in the Brodit car holder.

mcgrelio

17-12-2006, 01:51 PM

Yes, it's the same piece. The connector under the phone is part of the Brodit car holder. The actual end of it used to look just like any USB cable, but I had to modify it to fit in the Brodit car holder.
Hi URPEY, i wanto to do EXACTLY the same with my HTC Tytn and the Brodit Active Holder.
My idea was to sustitute the Brodit connector with one with audio/data out.
How did you fit theExpansys Y cable into the Brodit Holder?
The Brodit Holder also has a terminal with a smal black box and a molex connector. I suppose that you have removed them, isn't it? Which features did you loose removing the Brodit connector? Fixed GPS antenna connection?

Moreover... For my needs Expansis Y Cable's USB cable is too short. I want to hide it under my Car stereo so i need a longer cable.

Need some hints :D

Thx!

URPREY

17-12-2006, 05:46 PM

How did you fit theExpansys Y cable into the Brodit Holder?

You have to remove the black rubber piece from the end of the USB cable part of the y cable.

The Brodit Holder also has a terminal with a smal black box and a molex connector. I suppose that you have removed them, isn't it?
Mine did not have that part so I can't answer that question.

Moreover... For my needs Expansis Y Cable's USB cable is too short. I want to hide it under my Car stereo so i need a longer cable.
Agreed, but this is the best solution so far. I've not seen another longer cable available.

mcgrelio

17-12-2006, 11:12 PM

Mine did not have that part so I can't answer that question.
I'm speaking about this.
http://www.brodit.com/images/971690.jpg
I thought it was part of the Holder. I haven't bought mine yet.

You have to remove the black rubber piece from the end of the USB cable part of the y cable....

Agreed, but this is the best solution so far. I've not seen another longer cable available.
But... If you have removed the rubber i suppose that you have "damaged" (forget my english plz...) the y cable, isn't it? So, why not to cut the cable and insert a patch to make the cable longer?

URPREY

18-12-2006, 02:07 AM

I suppose you could do that but I didn't really want to get into all that. Removing the rubber doesn't damage the y cable, and the wires are not exposed when you remove it. It would be a lot of work to splice a new section of cable in there. If you have the time and patience to do it, I say go for it!

bkbroil

20-12-2006, 06:55 PM

Brando has an HTC Stereo Converter for $5.

http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverter.php

mcgrelio

20-12-2006, 08:44 PM

Good news from Brodit hopefully!

I send an email to Brodit asking if they plan to release an Active Holder with power and audio out.
This is the official answer:

Dear sir!

Thank you for the mail.

We are working to do a holder with soundattachment but haven't got a hold on any cables yet.
So please check the web in a couple of month.

Best Regards
Marie
-Brodit AB-

URPREY

20-12-2006, 09:00 PM

Good news from Brodit hopefully!

I send an email to Brodit asking if they plan to release an Active Holder with power and audio out.
This is the official answer:

It's not very difficult to make your own if you just use the 8525/HTC y cable and an audio adapter (about $25-30 in parts plus the power Brodit holder) as shown in post #26 in this thread...

QuachMD

20-12-2006, 09:56 PM

Brando has an HTC Stereo Converter for $5.

http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverter.php

Does it work for the TyTN? It's not listed.

icemantwilight

20-12-2006, 10:27 PM

Does it work for the TyTN? It's not listed.

Probably, the tytn pinout is similar to the other htc unit that uses this connector.

But for $10USD http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverter.php
is just a less compact version of http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=138247 for $16USD. Thats two adapters for audio only and then you still need an official car charger because the adapter doesn't bridge the 'detection' pins.

URPREY

21-12-2006, 03:49 AM

I'm speaking about this.
http://www.brodit.com/images/971690.jpg
I thought it was part of the Holder. I haven't bought mine yet.

Sorry - I missed answering this part of your question. Mine doesn't have that part and I'm not sure what it's used for. The one I got was around $60 US, and the one with the molex plug is $90 US.

kneeslasher

21-12-2006, 02:21 PM

Probably, the tytn pinout is similar to the other htc unit that uses this connector.

But for $10USD http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverter.php
is just a less compact version of http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=138247 for $16USD. Thats two adapters for audio only and then you still need an official car charger because the adapter doesn't bridge the 'detection' pins.

Er, the one with the wire (http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverter.php) is _exactly_ what I'm looking for. Can anyone confirm about this working with the Hermes? There are other HTC devices listed as compatible, but not the Hermes...

dash_freak

22-12-2006, 04:56 AM

Er, the one with the wire (http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverter.php) is _exactly_ what I'm looking for. Can anyone confirm about this working with the Hermes? There are other HTC devices listed as compatible, but not the Hermes...

For what it's worth that cable looks a lot like the one listed here:
http://www.martinfields.com/us/dis_producttype.asp?prod_type=cable&model=HTC_TyTN&modeln=TyTN

MilanoRex

24-12-2006, 03:04 AM

i ordered the martin fields usb to 3.5mm adapter from doml.com and it works great on my hermes! thanks

URPREY

28-12-2006, 03:36 PM

i ordered the martin fields usb to 3.5mm adapter from doml.com and it works great on my hermes! thanks
X2. I like it a lot, and especially at the price!

Radimus

28-12-2006, 04:31 PM

Martin Fields Enhanced Mini USB to 3.5mm stereo audio adapter (for most HTC and compatible devices) is out of stock. Please leave your name and email address with us. We will notify you through email once we have stock.

dammit....

Zgembo

29-12-2006, 08:30 AM

I also got martin fields usb to 3.5mm adapter... Works as charm... If you have out of stock problems, check their other web sites, for example asia, europe, etc... They may have different quantities...

URPREY

30-12-2006, 03:39 AM

dammit....

In stock here:

http://doml.net/productdec.asp?pid=2698&model=HTC_TyTN&modeln=TyTN

I got mine from there in about 7 days and shipping is cheap!

8Ball

05-01-2007, 05:47 PM

When you use the Martin Fields adapter does it still allow you to use the handset's microphone or does it stop that working too? If that's the case it would mean removing my earphones every time I want to make a call.

Thanks
8Ball

Radimus

05-01-2007, 07:18 PM

I keep looking at this device: http://doml.net/productdec.asp?pid=2670&model=HTC_TyTN&modeln=TyTN

If it has a mic so it could be used as a speakerphone, I think it would rule

URPREY

05-01-2007, 09:07 PM

I keep looking at this device: http://doml.net/productdec.asp?pid=2670&model=HTC_TyTN&modeln=TyTN

If it has a mic so it could be used as a speakerphone, I think it would rule
I have one of those here on my desk. It does disable the microphone when the phone is docked, but the sound does come through the speakers. I use a BT headset with it when I need to make a phone call.

Also, the Martin Fields adapter disables the microphone when plugged in, but the HTC adapter does NOT.

8Ball

06-01-2007, 03:43 PM

Uprey does that mean you can use the Martin Fields adapter and a standard BT headset together? If that is the case that would be excellent. I want to use the adapter to get audio (mp3's and sat nav) through my car stereo, but I have a BT headset that I could wear to make calls while driving.

I obviously dont want to be trying to switch between the 2 while driving though. So if stereo audio automatically routes through the Martin Fields adapter and calls auto go to bluetooth it's problem solved.

Thanks
8Ball

URPREY

06-01-2007, 08:02 PM

When a call comes in, you can use your bluetooth headset to answer it and the audio is routed to your headset (no audio will go through the speakers in your car). Once you are done, it switches back to the car speakers so you can continue with your mp3s or whatever. It's pretty seamless really.

jasjamming

06-01-2007, 11:53 PM

i just ordered the htc miniusb splitter and a 3.5mm audio converter from expansys.

the audio cable is similar to the ones you guys have spoken about.
http://i.expansys.com/i/b/b144538.jpg

i also ordered a fm transmitter/usb charger combo to use with my custom usb car charge cable to transmit the mp3s from the tytn to my stock stereo (no aux input).

hopefully it will work well. the only downside is that i wanted to use the setup to make/recieve calls without a BT headset. I guess i will modify the stereo headset that came with the tytn in the above set up so I can use the external microphone.

I will post pics when its done.

Also, be sceptical of the htc-usb-splitter (see pic below) as I have seen that it is not compatible with all tytn headsets (as they are either left or right angled). this means that if you have the incompatible headset (although it comes packaged with the tytn), you will not be able to charge your tytn as the headset jack will cover the power miniusb port (strange that HTC has stuffed this up as well). I guess I am going to modify the mini-usb-spliiter as well to remoVe the female jacks from the case and make a smaller/tidier solution (its a bit bulky the way it is)

http://i.expansys.com/i/b/b141276.jpg

cheers,

8Ball

07-01-2007, 06:58 PM

Thanks very much for that, have ordered the adapter and will get it in the car ASAP. I am still thinking about rewiring the standard headset though because it will lower the amount of clutter in my car.

Just find it strange that no one has thought to make an adapter with a built in microphone or even an adapter that doesn't reroute the microphone and leaves the hand set one working.

On that note can the Martin Fields adapter be modified to stop it rerouting the microphone? Would it just be a case of removing a pin from the plug in to the hand set?

Thanks
8Ball

dvbit

11-01-2007, 11:06 PM

Does Anyone have ever built an adapter for a Kensington Power Adapter like this http://www.eupowercenter.kensington.com/English/powerit.htm

I have one and it's pretty practical:
- light
- stylish
- loads (so i get rid of a few chargers in the backpack) ipod, psp, extra phone (yes...), bu no tip for my TyTn

Does anyone have any idea?
Kensington support did not answer on availability anytime..

Radimus

12-01-2007, 11:53 AM

try this.. much simpler solution, but not for every need

http://www.mobilitysite.com/forums/news-comments/33174-gomadic-pack-light.html#post167953

sparkyboy22

21-08-2007, 04:19 PM

A cheaper option if all you are looking for is a 3.5mm jack is only £5.98 delivered.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/11-pins-3-5mm-Earphone-Adaptor-for-HTC-TYTN-P3600-S620_W0QQitemZ260150589581QQihZ016QQcategoryZ10364 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

yatrg

21-08-2007, 08:43 PM

I purchased these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190138591031

and have been very happy. You can either use a bluetooth headset at the same time (for phone calls) - or plug it into your car stereo and hear your wife yell at you with 100 watts of power!

ITAdmin

10-10-2007, 02:49 PM

Check out this connector...

11 pin to 5 pin 3.5mm mini usb Y-cable Adapter for HTC... Ebay item # Item number: 250143943339

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250143943339&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Stores&refitem=250174072432&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&refwidgettype=osi_widget#ebayphotohosting.

Will this thing work for the new Tilt since it works for the 8525?

Thanks!

s4mb4

10-10-2007, 08:31 PM

i ordered one of these in August;
http://stores.ebay.com/Treoegg_HTC-Accessories_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ10301606QQftidZ 2QQtZkm
it worked great. I lost it a few weeks ago and ordered another.
the only issue is I bought it for Sirius radio and my battery life stinks listening to that.

drutort

11-10-2007, 08:21 PM

guys like most ppl said, all you really need is the pin config from the 11 pin usb, then buy from any electronics place that has a 11 pin miniUSB or so plug, it might be called something diff but it should all work, many other devices use such plugs so its not like HTC are the only ones that have it.

Check out your local electronics shops, they will have it... it might be more expensive and you will need to solder or what not... or you can get the one from ebay and even mod that one? though i would assume they would not use all the wires... hence the stereo 3.5mm and the charging or data cable... BUT the mic pin is probably not used...

if you have a wired head set you could probably get a 11 pin and wire it all up and a 5 pin data cable for charging and or data usage...

you could probably also modify a cradile that is made only for usb, if you can find a 11 pin and doing this is far better then making a cable IMO for use in car :)

some one give me a good link to a incar cradile with USB charge and i bet you anything i could buy a 11 pin and replace the 5 pin usb with it and wire it up for all the goodies even make mic plugs and head phone plug data etc...