New Cingular ROM upgrade for Palm Treo 750 (2006-10-21)

[pof]

Here is the first ROM update for the Palm Treo 750 (HTC Cheetah) from the still unreleased Cingular branded device!

As no one has started a wiki page for this device yet I did it myself, but I am not willing to mantain it as I don't have a Treo, so take this as a call to Treo750 wiki editors :)

Treo750 wiki page on XDA-Developers (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Cheetah)

Here's the link to the ROM upgrade files on XDA-Developers ftp:

Treo750_Cingular_ROM.zip
(Moderator NOTE: Sorry guys, we had to remove the file from the FTP since we've been told that it violates Palm's Intellectual Property rights.)

Upgrading instructions:

EDIT: Seems that "Step 1" is only a diagnostics image, and is not needed to perform the upgrade, go straight to "Step 2".

Insert the reader w/card into your USB, after the PC recognizes the card right click on the drive letter. Select Format from the options and make sure FAT32 is selected as the file system then select start.

Also, you need to copy the files to the memory card one at a time; DIAG file first and then delete the DIAG prior to loading the IMG file second.

Step 1:

-Copy the ‘CheeDIAG.nbh’ file to the root directory of a miniSD card. Note: Windows Mobile recognizes updates only from FAT32 formatted cards.
-Insert the card into the device.
-Press and hold both the PTTApp Button (lowest button on left side of device) + Pin Reset (next to miniSD card slot). You will be prompted to press the ‘End’ (red power) key to start the update. This step takes only a few seconds to complete. Once the flash is done, you will see: ‘Model ID: Palm Treo 750’ displayed by the device.

Step 2:

-Copy the ‘CHEEIMG.nbh’ file to the root directory of a miniSD card. Note: Windows Mobile recognizes updates only from FAT32 formatted cards.

-Insert the card into the device.
-Press and hold both the PTTApp Button (lowest button on left side of device) + Pin Reset (next to miniSD card slot). You will be prompted to press the ‘End’ (red power) key to start the update. This step takes about 5 minutes to complete.
-Hard reset the device once the device indicates the upgrade has been completed. To hard-reset, hold the ‘End’ (red power) key while pressing the pin reset button. Answer “yes” to “Erase all data” prompt.

Step 3:

Verify the device software via the device <start><settings><system tab><about><phone tab> The device should display firmware version on the resulting screen.

For all those anxious minds who haven't still showed up here, (Treo750 upgrading forum still empty, wtf?!?) I can tell you that the upgrade comes in NBH file format as in the Hermes, and the same tools (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_NBH) can be used to extract the ROM parts ;)

Enjoy! http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

[doedoe]

I can tell you that the upgrade comes in NBH file format as in the Hermes, and the same tools (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_NBH) can be used to extract the ROM parts ;)


Dont forget that the 750 (or Knight Rider as Palm call it) doesnt have a Extended ROM :(

[chrissyboy6969]

Is this a newer rom than the vodafone rom and does it have hsdpa enabled anyone know

Chris

[pof]

Dont forget that the 750 (or Knight Rider as Palm call it) doesnt have a Extended ROM :(

From the CHEEIMG.nbh you can extract 5 components:

- SPL (0x200)
- GSM (0x300)
- OS (0x400)
- SplashImage (0x600)
- uP (0x800)

From the CheeDIAG.nbh you can extract only the Diag part (0x500).

Is this a newer rom than the vodafone rom and does it have hsdpa enabled anyone know

It is newer than the Voda rom, build date is Oct 12 2006.

[sparkomatic]

Didn't seem to work for me. I'm stuck at red text at the top of the screen that says '00058002' and below it says 'Loading...' but nothing happens after that.

This was using the first file on a 1 GB card. I formatted it FAT32 and copied only the first file to it.

[Mashie]

Didn't seem to work for me. I'm stuck at red text at the top of the screen that says '00058002' and below it says 'Loading...' but nothing happens after that.

This was using the first file on a 1 GB card. I formatted it FAT32 and copied only the first file to it.

So are you stuck with a bricked 750? I just got mine this morning but won't try this update until I see it successfully done a few times :)

[sparkomatic]

No, thank goodness. It seems like it's not reading the file on the SD card so if I just reset again, everything boots fine.

[pof]

Probably a dumb question but... have you formatted the card in Fat32?
Most of the SD cards are Fat16 formatted by default.

[sizzlerecords]

Well your right it didnt seem like it was reading, and soft-reset powered on fine, I then copied the actual image file over, and its updating now, looks fine...will post results

[sizzlerecords]

card was formatted in FAT32 by the way...Ok, just finished upgrade it worked with no problems OS is running smooth! Hmm, radio seems a lot more powerful with Cingular update

[wardy]

Hi I'm in the UK will this upgrade work for me or is it just for Cingular ? I'm with T-Mobile.

[sparkomatic]

What do you mean you copied over the file? How did you end up loading the file if the card wasn't reading like mine?

[pof]

Hi I'm in the UK will this upgrade work for me or is it just for Cingular ? I'm with T-Mobile.

Its customized for cingular (meaning that it has cingular splash screen and some settings pre-customized) but it will work on any Treo750 device and on any network.

[pof]

What do you mean you copied over the file? How did you end up loading the file if the card wasn't reading like mine?

I don't own a treo750 and I can't test, but from what I've extracted from the upgrade files I can see that the 1st step is only a diagnostics SD card wich is *probably* not needed to perform the update... this means that you can go straight into step 2 of the upgrade process: copy the CHEEIMG.nbh file in the root folder of your FAT32 formated sd-card, this should start the upgrade.

[Mashie]

card was formatted in FAT32 by the way...Ok, just finished upgrade it worked with no problems OS is running smooth! Hmm, radio seems a lot more powerful with Cingular update

So give us your overall ipression of the Cingular rom. What do the button assignments look like. Any issues so far?

[sparkomatic]

Did it! Worked perfectly. I'm loading up things right now...so far, so good. My firmware went from 1.12.0a.00 to 1.17.20.00

You'll loose your Vodaphone Business theme but get the Cingular ringtone...lol

Goodlink loaded on it just fine. I'm letting it finish syncing all my data again before I shut the phone down to see if there are Cingular splash screens. The beginning tutorial after the hard reset shows a picture of a Cingular manual on the last step talking about reading the docs for more info.

If you're going to do it, like pof said, the first file I guess is a diagnostic. I didn't load that one and just did the actual image.

[Mashie]

Did it! Worked perfectly. I'm loading up things right now...so far, so good. My firmware went from 1.12.0a.00 to 1.17.20.00

You'll loose your Vodaphone Business theme but get the Cingular ringtone...lol

Goodlink loaded on it just fine. I'm letting it finish syncing all my data again before I shut the phone down to see if there are Cingular splash screens. The beginning tutorial after the hard reset shows a picture of a Cingular manual on the last step talking about reading the docs for more info.

If you're going to do it, like pof said, the first file I guess is a diagnostic. I didn't load that one and just did the actual image.

Any idea if this rom has HSPDA enabled? Also did you still have the ability to synch the device time to the network time?

[sparkomatic]

I'm not in a 3G area so I don't know.

Yep, the ability to sync with the network time/date is still there :)

[Mashie]

I'm not in a 3G area so I don't know.

Yep, the ability to sync with the network time/date is still there :)

ohhh I am soo tempted to upgrade. The only issue I have is not having the Original Voda 750 rom to go back to incase something goes wrong.

[hannip]

Can't you use itsutils pdocread to dump your rom? There are a few on the ftp server already.

[pof]

Can't you use itsutils pdocread to dump your rom? There are a few on the ftp server already.

Dumped roms cannot be used to flash a device again.

[eeter]

HSDPA is coming after March 2007 in a new ROM ( few week of testing before release )
Blackbery 3G in January :)

[Mashie]

HSDPA is coming after March 2007 in a new ROM ( few week of testing before release )
Blackbery 3G in January :)

So are you saying that this Cingular rom does not have HSPDA enabled?

[eeter]

Not yet. In order to make the Holiday sales season ( Nov). Palm had to release it w/o HS. Wait until April for comercial HS soft release

[hannip]

Dumped roms cannot be used to flash a device again.

So there is no way to create a backup of your rom to protect you against a bad update? That's pretty scary. I guess if you have phone insurance it's not as scary.

You can update the imgfs on these devices right? Isn't that what the romtools is for. And I think itsutils can perform writes also. But I guess they don't support reflashing the whole rom. hmm.

[pof]

So there is no way to create a backup of your rom to protect you against a bad update? That's pretty scary. I guess if you have phone insurance it's not as scary.

You can update the imgfs on these devices right? Isn't that what the romtools is for. And I think itsutils can perform writes also. But I guess they don't support reflashing the whole rom. hmm.

You can write with pdocwrite, but it is not "safe" unless you know really well what you're doing or you could brick your phone.

On new HTC devices (I can only talk for sure in the Hermes, but I guess the Treo, Artemis, and Trinity as well) the bootlaoder only allows you to flash signed code, and we don't have HTC keys to sign our 'cooked' roms, so even if you manage to make a valid rom you will not be able to flash it :( this means rom cooking is not possible (yet!) on these devices.

[hannip]

wow, bummer

[sparkomatic]

Just an FYI... looks like this Cingular ROM got rid of the VCR style buttons when in voicemail. I can't remember if they were there on the Vodaphone ROM but I think they were.

[doedoe]

Does it have MSN??

[gpsenzo68]

YEP!! And it works!

[lcavada]

Just tried my hands at the upgrade.

No way around getting the first file to execute. Kept stopping at the Red numbers, and displaying "Loading". Tried 512MB card, 1GB card, and 2GB card. All formatted on my PC for 32 bits.

Then I just went to step #2.

Loaded up great on a 512MB card, it took a bit to perform updagrade 5 - 6 minutes.

As instructed did the hard reset.

WOW ! WOW ! WOW !

The phone is a speed demon now. It really zips along between commands.

Signal appears better. At my desk at home the Voda ROM would fluctuate in strength from 2 - 4 bars. With the Cingular Rom, it is steady at 4 bars.

We'll see how the puppy behaves during a full day of use tomorrow.

Only reason why I really wanted to update is that since I am in US, the Cingular ROM may be "tuned" for US. ALthough I use Tmobile, we roam on Cingular when we have no signal. We roam on the 850 Cingular band.

After a few days, I'll post follow up.

[zaxxon]

did any of you guys (that did the rom update) notice any roaming with the 750v before you did the update?

If yes, did it change post update?

What else is different?

Thanks,
Zax

[IrvineKeith]

Signal appears better. At my desk at home the Voda ROM would fluctuate in strength from 2 - 4 bars. With the Cingular Rom, it is steady at 4 bars.

That sounds very promising!

However, the skeptic in me wonders if this might just be Cingular seeing the same signal strength as Voda's ROM, but assigning it more bars to fool us and make us happy... ;-)

[Biglad_UK]

So does this new ROM still have all the great Vodaphone apps like Threaded SMS, Voice Commander etc or has this rom had those things removed ?

Si

[zaxxon]

Just updated my Treo 750v with the new Cingular ROM (step 2 only).
All went well.

And, I no longer see "roaming"...

[justin801]

Just updated my Treo 750v with the new Cingular ROM (step 2 only).
All went well.

And, I no longer see "roaming"...

Hi, can you tell me where is the PTTApp Button. Thanks!

[Arkay]

Apologies for this noob question: it seems I need an miniSD card reader to make this config change work, is that true? Or can I just copy the files onto the card via the explorer and proceed?

TIA for your answer.

[pof]

@Arkay: you can just copy the files.

@justin801: The PTTApp button i guess is only on Cingular's version of the Treo750 because they will come out with Push-to-Talk functionality, on the Vodafone branded Treo750 I think this button is called Media button, and it is the 3rd button on the left side of the phone, under the volume button (others correct me if i'm wrong, i don't have a treo to look at).

[Arkay]

@Arkay: you can just copy the files.
Cool, thanks.

Follow up question: how do I make sure the miniSD is formatted to FAT32 via my PC connection or the device? I've just gotten a Sandisk UltraII miniSD if that makes a difference.

[Mashie]

Can the cingular PPTbutto be re-assigned via the Buttons option? Can it still be assigned to Voice Command?

[pof]

Can the cingular PPTbutto be re-assigned via the Buttons option? Can it still be assigned to Voice Command?

Try the PTTFix from Sleuth255, it works on the Hermes, I don't know if it will be the same for the Treo750:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279585

[Mashie]

Try the PTTFix from Sleuth255, it works on the Hermes, I don't know if it will be the same for the Treo750:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279585

Thanks for the link POF, I was actually asking if this hack is even needed. I haven't done the Cingular upgrade yet until I find out if the button is hard coded or not.

[sparkomatic]

Yeah, you can assign that button to another app. It gets assigned to Windows Media by default.

[Arkay]

I've tried (not knowing if the miniSD is formatted to FAT32 file system as I don't have a card reader) and it didn't work. :(

Copied the file from my PC directly to root directory of the miniSD card.

All I get is screen with bands of color (red on top) and some ID tags and with "USB" at the bottom band. Nothing else happens.

Soft reset brings everything back and nothing seems amiss.

Is this the SD format problem?

[sparkomatic]

Not that I'm the expert on this but do you still have a USB cable connected when you're trying this? If the card is formatted and you disconnect all cable and reset, it should work.

[Biglad_UK]

So does this new ROM still have all the great Vodaphone apps like Threaded SMS, Voice Commander etc or has this rom had those things removed ?

Si

Anybody ?

Si

[zaxxon]

Threaded SMS is still there.

[Biglad_UK]

Threaded SMS is still there.

Cool,

So everything is exactley the same except it's a Cingular branded one no Vodaphone.....Would that be true to say ?

Might give this a blast if so cause I'm now using my mine on t-mobile

Si

[sparkomatic]

Cool,

So everything is exactley the same except it's a Cingular branded one no Vodaphone.....Would that be true to say ?

Might give this a blast if so cause I'm now using my mine on t-mobile

Si

If I were on T-Mobile, I probably wouldn't use this ROM. Just my opinion though.

[Biglad_UK]

If I were on T-Mobile, I probably wouldn't use this ROM. Just my opinion though.

Why ?

You can't just say that then not qualify it..

You know I'm in the UK right

Si

[Arkay]

Not that I'm the expert on this but do you still have a USB cable connected when you're trying this? If the card is formatted and you disconnect all cable and reset, it should work.
Just tried it with the USB cable disconnected and I get the same effect except it now says "Serial" at the bottom.

The codes on the screen are:"Palm Tr IPL-0.20" and "Palm Tr SPL-0.18.0000".

And how do I check if the card is formatted correctly? I couldn't format the card through the device itself or connection so cannot be sure it's FAT32 file system - how do I check that?

[sparkomatic]

Just tried it with the USB cable disconnected and I get the same effect except it now says "Serial" at the bottom.

The codes on the screen are:"Palm Tr IPL-0.20" and "Palm Tr SPL-0.18.0000".

And how do I check if the card is formatted correctly? I couldn't format the card through the device itself or connection so cannot be sure it's FAT32 file system - how do I check that?

I formatted mine using a card reader. I don't know how you can check it if you're using your device to format it.

[sparkomatic]

Why ?

You can't just say that then not qualify it..

You know I'm in the UK right

Si

Sure I can :) I'm just saying that the ROM doesn't add anything of value other than Cingular phone on/off screens, the cingular ringtone and a couple of cingular websites in the favorites folder. If I wasn't on Cingular, I wouldn't want to see Cingular stuff on my phone.

[Biglad_UK]

Sure I can :) I'm just saying that the ROM doesn't add anything of value other than Cingular phone on/off screens, the cingular ringtone and a couple of cingular websites in the favorites folder. If I wasn't on Cingular, I wouldn't want to see Cingular stuff on my phone.

But at the firmware version is higher that must surely mean some "under the hood" changes ?

Plus my Treo doesn't work with my BMW Bluetooth CarKit when all my friends WM5 devices do and that stucks.

I'd risk it just for that functionality

Si

[Mashie]

Ok I bit the bullet and did the update. It went flawlessly and everything seems to be working fine. Its nice having the device preset with the Cingular and US regional settings.

I will admit, I think I held my breath during the entire update ;)

[sabesh]

Anyone having problems acquiring carrier signal after a soft reset? I each time I reset, it takes progressively longer to get a signal (with Cingular ROM).

Update: The issue has fixed itself after I removed a few apps that I installed previously. Unfortunately, I could not track dow the offending app.

[Arkay]

IT'S ALIVE!

Thanks to all who gave the pointers, tips and tricks. I got the update done this afternoon and it worked like a charm! :)

[volition]

I've just completed the flash. No problem, as other users, could not get past diagnostic file, but once that got deleted, it went smoothly (4m 16s).

Couple of points:

I could not notice any significant difference performance wise from the shipped Vodafone software. I am on a 4-bar UMTS area, there are no radio fluctuations. Reports exactly the same. More significantly, I sincerely cannot say that the Treo is responding quicker. It certainly isn't responding slower. I'd say it's the same.

Cingular's 1.17.20 cake has MSN as its icing on the top. Some of the installed programs are redundant in the UK and amount to nothing other than URL links that lauch Internet Explorer. Network time, SMS threads, Voice Commands are all implemented (although the first has never produced any results for me with Vodafone!). Personally I find not having Vodafone's business theme a blessing (it's patchy, particularly if you use MagicButton as I do). I had never noticed MEMOs during a call, and that now shows as an option on the Menu. I find it quite useful but suspect was there all along.

HSDPA: Nope. 497.8 kb/s on bandwidthplace.com

Verdict:
If you use MSN (I do) upgrade as it's worth it. But you can install it separately without the need to mess about. It is likely that there are some improvements that are not yet visible and will become apparent with time. For now, it's a safe upgrade.

[canadian student]

Where can you find MSN? Is It WM5.0 MSN? Or the 2003 MSN?


Thanks in advance

[austin_boy]

New ROM next week

:)

[camsd85]

New ROM next week

:)

Anything new or significantly different worth noting?

[drivelikeajerk]

FYI: Formatting the miniSD card on a Mac will NOT work. Even though Disk Utility it says FAT32 formatting, it doesn't work correctly for some reason.

Once I formatted the card on a Windows machine, everything worked smoothly.

[Harleyyy]

Hi,
Thank you for the info...
Will the Cingular Rom work for Rogers? I am in Montreal...

...also, is there any way to get the backup ROM from Voda as i am a little scared to do the update.

Thanks

Harleyyy

[shwicf]

do i have to get the 750v unlocked before installing cingular rom? Thanks.

[kevnich2]

I'm having problems with my 750v and being able to silence incoming calls with the volume buttons. It doesn't work at all, if I press the volume button either up or down, it just increases or decreases the ringer volume but I want it to actually silence the ringer. The manual says it should but it doesn't. I'm curious if the cingular ROM would fix this issue for me. If it does, could anyone email or send me the cingular ROM update for this phone?

[Wiz]

I'm having problems with my 750v and being able to silence incoming calls with the volume buttons. It doesn't work at all, if I press the volume button either up or down, it just increases or decreases the ringer volume but I want it to actually silence the ringer. The manual says it should but it doesn't. I'm curious if the cingular ROM would fix this issue for me. If it does, could anyone email or send me the cingular ROM update for this phone?

The Cingular rom doesn't do it either. That's because it's not the volume buttons that silences the ringer, it's the action/enter button in the middle of the D-Pad that silences the ringer :-)

Think Palm forgot to mention something in the manual ...

[mikechadwick]

I'm having problems with my 750v and being able to silence incoming calls with the volume buttons. It doesn't work at all, if I press the volume button either up or down, it just increases or decreases the ringer volume but I want it to actually silence the ringer. The manual says it should but it doesn't. I'm curious if the cingular ROM would fix this issue for me. If it does, could anyone email or send me the cingular ROM update for this phone?


you silence the ringer with the switch at the top of the phone, not the side buttons

[Drest]

I loaded the 750 Cingular rom that was included in this thread and it is full of bugs. Will I be able to load an upgraded version(s), or am I stuck with this? If so, how will I be able to get the latest update?

[sabesh]

Drest,

What type of bugs are you having?

Sabesh.

[Drest]

Several issues...Biggest issue is Bluetooth is very flakey. Lose sound when using bluetooth thru bluetooth earpiece. Lose connection in my car. After a call, it randomly goes to alarm setting.

[carsmovies]

Where's this new ROM?

[gsmphonesource]

Didn't seem to work for me. I'm stuck at red text at the top of the screen that says '00058002' and below it says 'Loading...' but nothing happens after that.

This was using the first file on a 1 GB card. I formatted it FAT32 and copied only the first file to it.


I am getting 00058002 at the top of my screen as well. I have reformatted my 2gb Sandisk MiniSD card several times now in FAT32. Any suggestions?

[lcavada]

I am getting 00058002 at the top of my screen as well. I have reformatted my 2gb Sandisk MiniSD card several times now in FAT32. Any suggestions?

I too was getting this issue when running the diagnostics software (first program to be attempted).

I ignored this step, and moved to the actual installation of the firmware. Followed the procedure to place file on the memorycard, and it worked quickly and flawlessly.

Good luck

[sambaman]

Does anybody have the rom? or has anybody got the MSN out of it? if so any chance of it as tried buyin ga copy but will let me buy for a hotmail addy but not my main msn addy! which is a personal email.

Love the phone! Just annoyed no msn!

[Clarky7]

Hi all, I'm hoping someone can help because I'm starting to pull my hair out.

I just received my new Treo 750-v from Vodafone and the bloody thing is in Italian. Now, I thought you could change the language somewhere in the settings but no. I then tried to call Palm in England (I'm English you see) and got through to tech support. Tech support tell me that the 750-v is licensed to Vodafone (hence the "v") and that they don't have suport. So, you make the phone but don't have support! Strange!

Anyway the tech guy said you must call Vodafone support, well I live in Italy and have you ever tried calling tech support in Italy? (thats another post). So, tried to call tech support in England but there are no numbers for me to call from overseas.

So, I really would like to know if I can transfer the sofware on my phone into English. Or is the sofware somewhere that I can download. I have tried everything today and now my hair is falling out.

PLEASE HELP

Thanks,

Clarky

P.S. I'm not very technicaly minded so take it easy with me!

[cortez.i]

I have a 750v and when I first set it up and after a hard-reset, I had the option to choose the language. Don't know if yours is the same is mine, but you might try a hard-reset and see if you have you have an option to pick the language.... good luck!

[foofighter]

did anyone happen to save the OE ROM so that one can revert back?

[bubbadmc]

I'm having a similar problem to Clarky7 above. I have a 750v but it's all in German. When I do a hard reset the only language options that I get are 5 variations on German.

Does anyone know where I can find an English ROM please???

Thanks in advance.

[zerimar]

I live in Switzerland and it is impossible to find anything in English. Since I am thinking of buying the Treo 750v, I wrote an email to Palm with the same thing in mind... that Treos had the option of language selection after a hard reset. The reply was that the Treo 750v does not support such feature and advised me to order one in English. As a second proof, Swisscom, the official seller gives one the option to select the desired OS language when ordering.

[Clarky7]

Hi Again guys, still no more info in putting this thing in English. If I do a hard reset to see if it gives me a language option, will i lose all info? Seeing as I just got it, all I have are contacts and they are on my SIM.

I mean, if I hard reset will i have to load in windows mobile? I don't want to do that as it's the Italian disc.

I getting tired........why can't these things be simple?

Clarky

[chakra]

if you read this thread from the begining you will see that the cingular rom upgrade described is in english. all you need to do is to follow the rom upgrade procedure and you will have an english 750v. yes you will loose all of your data.


hmm, it looks like I should read this thread from the begining, they removed the rom. I guess palm was bitching. Sorry guys

[dreamscentral]

please i don´t find the english rom anywhere, if anyone has a copy please send it to me centraldreams@gmail.com

and if someone know spanish would be great to put an spanish manual to install the rom, i am a bit confuse jeje

thank you four time

[doedoe]

I hear that there are two ROMs on the way from Palm/Vodafone. One before christmas and one after. The one after will have HSDPA :)

Before = AKU2.x
After = AKU3.x

[Clarky7]

Me again!

Not only can I not get this phone put in English, but just downloaded the active sync on my PC and it won't sync with my phone. The disc is Italian, so is the problem window that pops up.

I'm starting to get annoyed with this phone.

Anyone want to buy it?

Maybe someone could burn me a copy of there English disc!!

Any advice would be great. So what actually happened to that ROM link that was removed. Is there no way of finding out where it can be found again?

Clarky

[mikechadwick]

is this it?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Cheetah
go to resources, Treo 750 Uploads
takes you to:
Index of ftp://xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Treo750-Cheetah/
click dumped roms
and there you will find:
Treo750v_Dump_Cingular_ROM.zip 16852 KB 7/11/06 04:01:00

[tstaiano]

what's this then?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Cheetah
go to resources, Treo 750 Uploads
takes you to:
Index of ftp://xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Treo750-Cheetah/
click dumped roms
and there you will find:
Treo750v_Dump_Cingular_ROM.zip 16852 KB 7/11/06 04:01:00

But that's a DUMPED ROM; will it work as a new install?

:confused: (sorry for the newb question.)

I don't wanna brick my $700 Treo...

[Mashie]

But that's a DUMPED ROM; will it work as a new install?

:confused: (sorry for the newb question.)

I don't wanna brick my $700 Treo...

No, you can not use a dumped rom to flash you device. :(

[mikechadwick]

shows what I know about these things

[mikechadwick]

I hear that there are two ROMs on the way from Palm/Vodafone. One before christmas and one after. The one after will have HSDPA :)

Before = AKU2.x
After = AKU3.x

doedoe
where did you get this info?

[nhatkhoa]

Hello

I downloaded this dumed rom and can't find a way to upgrade it

If anyone else downloaded this rom and upgraded his phone, please help me by upload it to yousendit.com or megaupload.com ... and send me the links to funnyppc@gmail.com

Thanks you for you help!

My phone is French but i doesn't understand a piece of this language :D

[Clarky7]

So what's the story doedoe. When is vodafone gonna release this ROM before Christmas? Were in December already.

Clarky

[suidafrika]

If anyone can assist with sourcing English ROM, please email me on rashiedam@hotmail.com.

Cheers

[dadustar]

Can anyone help me with the English Cingular ROM ,the 2 files for upgrade.Please contact me dadustar@gmail.com or messenger:dadustar
Thank you

[tiouko]

Does any one know if the Palm Treo 700 is hackable does it have the same hard wares struckture as the HTC wizzard can I unlock it and do evrerything that i can do with a wizzard with it? any help would be greatly appreciated.

[joshkerr]

I too am interested in upgrading to the cingular rom. I was too late to download it when it was up so if you could kindly email me with a link that would be wonderful. Or just email it to me:

joshkerr[AT]gmail.com

You can send large files to gmail so I should be able to take it.

[patmannyc]

Keep in mind that you are all asking for the OLD ROM Cingular initially put in the 750, which was found to have a TON of problems. Now that the 750 is coming out, hopefully someone will be able to extract the new one, then offer it to us. At least I hope so!

[austin_boy]

be patient guys the new one is comingwith HSDPA

[patmannyc]

be patient guys the new one is comingwith HSDPA

The new Cingular ROM? Not quite.

The first batch of Cingular 750's are rolling out WITHOUT HSDPA. It will be available in a "future update." And don't forget, this is Palm we're talking about! FUTURE could mean many things...

Besides, HSDPA is enabled with a very, VERY easy hack. And I never had problems with it, never had to reinstall, etc. HSDPA is no big deal IMO

[calicofeline]

The new Cingular ROM? Not quite.

....Besides, HSDPA is enabled with a very, VERY easy hack. And I never had problems with it, never had to reinstall, etc. HSDPA is no big deal IMO

I totally agree with patmannyc, I did install the Cingular ROM when it was released and performed the HSDPA hack, which was very easy...I am a heavy user and have had no problems. (Ok, I do reboot once in a great while, but we are talking about a Microsoft OS)

[satgoblin]

Hi Guys,

I have tried hard to upgrade my Treo 750v in German language.

I need the CINGULAR ROM as it seems that the uploaded ones are not fitting ok becasue it is missing the .NBH file and looks that DUMPED ROMS cannot be used! :(

Can anybody give a megaupload link to freely download the ROM for all those that could not have downloaded it on time please!

This is a desperate pray! :(

[teride]

Anyone know of a reg hack yet for the Treo 750v to get rid of the roaming icon? I'm still cingy blue & the phone always displays the roaming icon---I cannot assign phone rings specific to anyone it only rings the tone assigned to "roaming". I've never seen a phone with ability to assign a ring tone to "Phone:Roaming". I know it's not that big of a deal...but it's driving me crazy. I don't really want to upgrade to the Cingular ROM if I don't have to.

Help much appreciated.

[fokker]

My treo is 750v on italian ... please send me that cingular rom.... i can't read this language any more...please...my mail: cg@cg.yu
:mad: :( :( :(

[carsmovies]

What is the latest Cingular ROM and where do I check to see what ROM I'm running? The only place I see is the About in settings.

[satgoblin]

Looks like people here are simplky ignoring the request for the ROM.

[gpsenzo68]

Looks like people here are simplky ignoring the request for the ROM.

There are probably 2 reasons why you don't find the rom on FTP:

1. Cingular/Palm has requested it removed othterwise they would take actions against xda-developers.

2. The rom has loads of problems so it's not a plus to install it.

In a few weeks (I we may believe the rumors) there will be a new and stable rom from Vodavone even with a higher AKU so it would be a waste to install the instable rom.

[satgoblin]

@gpsenzo68

I asked many users here to help me with a Private Message (PM) linking me a rapidshare link where to download it.

This is without any responsability for the Forum admins. it is a simple user2user share.

More the Cingular ROM even if it give you no extra features will always be better than the Vodafone ROM in a fgoreign language (german in my case) where I don't understand a word.

It has been a big con from the Vodafone when they sold it to me. They said that the language could be changed at anytime.

And now? I pay 699 Euro for a crap PDA with no support at all in german language as in my country it was not on sale!!!

I am simply asking users to help me out to turn it at least in English and looks more people are interested just in promoting this very bad quality PDA rather giving a real help to a newbie like me trying hard to get it to work!

Sorry but it is 2 days I am looking all over to get it and NO CHANCE!

[darkjedi]

If I had the Cingular ROM, I'd upload it to my site and share it for everyone.

[satgoblin]

Thank you to the good fella that gave me the ROM!

I am now testing it and it seems it is working fine. The Voda ROM was not that quicker as the cingual and there are many more appz.

Let's have a look and report back what's the differences.

Anyhow for all those in pain for this ROM please let me know.

Goblin

[calico]

What Firmware/Software version does your Treo show after the Cingular flashing ?

System, about:
Firmware: 1.17.20.00
Software: TREO750-1.12-VCF

Bootloader screen:
IPL: Palm Tr IPL-0.20
SPL: Palm Tr SPL-0.18.0000

[satgoblin]

Firmware: 1.17.20.00
Software: TREO750-1.14-VCF

I'd say that this version is very stable and the signal quality is much better than with Vodafone ROM.

I am always swithing between UTMS and GSM with the tialian TIM provider and i'd say that the phone is defenitely working much better now!

[jojo_d]

can somebody send me a link for the ROM too? I have a 750V which is in Italian. T.I.A.

[fokker]

Thank you to the good fella that gave me the ROM!

I am now testing it and it seems it is working fine. The Voda ROM was not that quicker as the cingual and there are many more appz.

Let's have a look and report back what's the differences.

Anyhow for all those in pain for this ROM please let me know.

Goblin

Can you send me that ROM on my mail cg@cg.yu please
best regards

[lastcosmonaut]

Hello,

I'm from germany and have an italian treo 750v too. Can someone send me information how to obtain the english (or maybe even german?) cingular rom? i noticed the ftp link needs passwords, which i don't know. I appreciate your help.


- Thilo

[macosx86]

Same here, I would really appreciate if someone could send a link :-)

hatori.hanso[at]gmail.com

[darkjedi]

If anyone wants the ROM, I will host it on my site. Just PM me a link with the ROM, and I will upload it to my site and post it here.

[justin801]

Can someone please send me the ROM. justin801@gmail.com

[zerimar]

Guys, ROMS are too big to send via email. The only solution is to have it uploaded to an ftp server.

[c.eussen]

I want the Cingular version too. PLS send me a link to it or the rom file. Thanks

c.eussen@gmail.com

[kortez]

Why not to put the ROM on rapidshare.com / megaupload.com ?

[function_analysis]

Hi, could anybody send me the english ROM for the Treo 750v. I want to use it instead of the german one I have.

Thanks in advance for your help!

My email account is function@central.ntua.gr

Hello,

I'm from germany and have an italian treo 750v too. Can someone send me information how to obtain the english (or maybe even german?) cingular rom? i noticed the ftp link needs passwords, which i don't know. I appreciate your help.


- Thilo

[sorepalm]

Can someone host the cingular ROM in some rapidshare site? Please email me the link, pleassssse - patrickpn@gmail.com

[carsmovies]

Here's the Cingular ROM for everyone.

http://rapidshare.com/files/16438750/Treo750_Cingular_ROM.zip

[bnycastro]

Thanks carsmovies :)

[Steven2420]

Here's the Cingular ROM for everyone.

http://rapidshare.com/files/16438750/Treo750_Cingular_ROM.zip

I installed this ROM from a 1GB San Disk card that was already FAT32 when I placed it in the reader. The instructions were perfect, and the upgrade went without a hitch.

The ROM is very good, a few quirks, nothing major. Faster then the original Vodafone ROM, less boot-up time, same RF. No Cingular splash screen though, still wondering about that? Thanks carsmovies, great job!!!

[Steven2420]

Sorry-Duplicate post

[kortez]

I installed this ROM from a 1GB San Disk card that was already FAT32 when I placed it in the reader. The instructions were perfect, and the upgrade went without a hitch.

The ROM is very good, a few quirks, nothing major. Faster then the original Vodafone ROM, less boot-up time, same RF. No Cingular splash screen though, still wondering about that? Thanks carsmovies, great job!!!

Could you please write the versions of Treo now yuo got?
Something like:

Os version 5.1.195
(Build 14995.2.6.3)
Software version TREO750-1.12-VCF
Firmware version 1.12.0c.00

You can check them in Start>Settings>System>About

Version tab and Phone Tab.


Thanks a lot!

[Steven2420]

Could you please write the versions of Treo now yuo got?
Something like:

Os version 5.1.195
(Build 14995.2.6.3)
Software version TREO750-1.12-VCF
Firmware version 1.12.0c.00

You can check them in Start>Settings>System>About

Version tab and Phone Tab.


Thanks a lot!

OS 5.1.195 (Build 14959.2.3.2)
Software version: Treo750-1-15 VFE
Firmware version: 1.17.20.00
Hardware Version: A


Hope that helps!!!

[macosx86]

OK, so I upgraded the ROM from Vodaphone to Cingular, and this is what I got:

OS 5.1.195 (Build 14959.2.3.2)
TREO750-1.12-VFF
1.17.20.00

[tstaiano]

I've downloaded it, but haven't installed yet. I wanted to hear back from some other users who've made the switch.

Here are a couple of items that I'd appreciate an answer on:


Voice Mail: Do you still have use of the VM screen with the VCR-type buttons? I like that feature.
HSDPA: Anyone have the new Cingy ROM (from above) and installed the HSDPA work-around? If so, any problems?
PDF Viewer: Is it still Picsel, or is there another program that you get in the Cingy ROM?


TIA...
Tim

[sorepalm]

I upgraded from a vodafone to cingular. THis is what I get:

OS 5.1.195 (Build 14959.2.3.2)
Software version: Treo750-1-15 VFE
Firmware version: 1.17.20.00
Hardware Version: A

[rezilient]

I upgraded from a vodafone to cingular. THis is what I get:

OS 5.1.195 (Build 14959.2.3.2)
Software version: Treo750-1-15 VFE
Firmware version: 1.17.20.00
Hardware Version: A

Mine Cingular (factory) phone says:

OS 5.1.195 (Build 14959.2.3.2)
Software version: TREO750-1.13-CNG
Firmware version: 1.17.20.00
Hardware Version: A

[lsxliron]

If anyone wants the ROM, I will host it on my site. Just PM me a link with the ROM, and I will upload it to my site and post it here.
hi.
i wonder if you sill have the rom for the treo 750v.
if you can send me the kunk via the privete messeges i will be tnxful..

Liron

[TheBigMan]

I recently acquired a European unbranded 750, here's my version info:

OS 5.1.461 (Build 15671.3.3.0)
Software Version: TREO750-1.15-ROW
Hardware Version: P
Firmware Version: 1.22.30.00

Seems to have HSDPA enabled by default...

[kortez]

TheBigMan
Where are you from?

[bnycastro]

hi iirc some people can compare registries and stuff on each device [i.e. voda750v vs palm 750 unbranded] maybe we can find out how hsdpa is enabled by palm [the current hack sethsdpa doesn't seem to stick very well on the 750v] personally i don't have the know how to do this. just throwing around an idea.

[patmannyc]

I recently acquired a European unbranded 750, here's my version info:

OS 5.1.461 (Build 15671.3.3.0)
Software Version: TREO750-1.15-ROW
Hardware Version: P
Firmware Version: 1.22.30.00

Seems to have HSDPA enabled by default...

Can you try and extract the ROM from the phone for us???

[mindozas]

I need treo 750 rom with wwe. I have tryed to send from a link http://rapidshare.com/files/16438750...ngular_ROM.zip ,but i get just a 5 kb file treo_750v_cingular_ROM.rar .Can somebody help me, pleasssss... mindaugas0085@gmail.com

[portillo]

I need treo 750 rom with wwe. I have tryed to send from a link http://rapidshare.com/files/16438750...ngular_ROM.zip ,but i get just a 5 kb file treo_750v_cingular_ROM.rar .Can somebody help me, pleasssss... mindaugas0085@gmail.com
im just about to finsh to download fromt the link you just post, maybe that you have a download manager active, please upload it from memory and try the link again.

[mindozas]

Thanks, it works !!!

[cslyon]

Does someone have a different URL? That doesn't work for me either.

[kokolik]

:) :confused:

[mindozas]

http://rapidshare.com/files/25793014/PalmTreo750v_update.zip.html

[richy240]

http://rapidshare.com/files/25793014/PalmTreo750v_update.zip.html

Is this the unbranded ROM???

[j0nkatz]

One thing I do not understand is why when I flash my Treo750 Cingular to the Vodafone ROM, why the software version on the phone STILL says TREO750-1.13-CNG

[pretiger]

Is this the unbranded ROM???

no, this is actually the 1.12.0c.00 vodafone rom. Anybody get the unbranded ROM?:(

[richy240]

no, this is actually the 1.12.0c.00 vodafone rom. Anybody get the unbranded ROM?:(

Anyone at all? Please?

[bnycastro]

I don't think this is available yet. palm just started selling unbranded 750s and there's no sign of ROMs on their site US or UK.

[subphylum]

does anyone have a copy of WM6 rom for the 750? A link would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks all!

[bnycastro]

I just wrote palm asia pacific yesterday the guy replied and said the there will be a WM6 ROM but the release date was not given to them. He added that when it comes out it will be on the website... [DUH!]
--
anyone see the Foleo yet? Any plans on getting one for your Treo :P

[richy240]

anyone see the Foleo yet? Any plans on getting one for your Treo :P
Uhh, no. I'm calling it now: that thing is going to be a flop.

[lbarouf]

I saw a branded TREO750-1.15-ROW, anyone has it? I don't care to whom... can anyone upload it? Would anyone tell me a reason why I shouldn't get a branded one if I don't mind the provider's customization as long I can replace settings with my provider's settings?

[kortez]

Where's the f***in WM6 ROM?? I wonder, why the hell they're testing it for 3 f***in months!!

[hondaguy]

No, thank goodness. It seems like it's not reading the file on the SD card so if I just reset again, everything boots fine.

same thing happened to me, but the update seems to be working.

thanks carsmovies for uploading the rom, i was looking for two hours!

[w3lcom3]

Hi,

I just bought Palm Treo 750

software version TREO750-1.16-RWE
Firmware Version 1.27.0b.00

I tried to used cingular ROM to flash my Treo 750 but after pressing PTTapp + reset i get a bar code screen with a message

Palm Tr IPL-0.20
Palm Tr SPL-0.22.0000

it just stayed on the bar code display and did not allow me to proceed and seems that the Treo hanged. Any workaround on this please?

[radcomp]

I had the same problem. My SD card was formated fat not fat32. As soon as I formated it fat32, and copied the file over it worked perfect.

[jho51e]

I saw a branded TREO750-1.15-ROW, anyone has it? I don't care to whom... can anyone upload it? Would anyone tell me a reason why I shouldn't get a branded one if I don't mind the provider's customization as long I can replace settings with my provider's settings?

I have this version on my Telstra (Australian provider) branded phone. although i actually use a Vodafone SIM for it.

Voda UK has just release WM6, do you guys think I can use this upgrade for my phone?

[portillo]

I have this version on my Telstra (Australian provider) branded phone. although i actually use a Vodafone SIM for it.

Voda UK has just release WM6, do you guys think I can use this upgrade for my phone?

hi ppl... about all the roms... does n1 know where to find the spanish rom for the treo 750? i will be so but so gratefullly......

[menorca]

hi
hope you can help! i downloaded the os image, formated my sd card, pressed and held the bottom button on the left of the phone , reset as described.

It flashes loading and 00068002, then goes to a red,green,blue and white stripped screen

In green stripe (Palm tr spl-0.21.0000)
in white stripe (serial)

and does nothing else?

could it be a faulty sd mini card?
how long should the format take on a 1gb card?

thanks

[abersparky]

lovely - I only have the CHEEIMG.nbh file (probably why mine isn't going past the rainbow striped screen... anyone have the CheeDIAG.nbh file?? :(

[Dredger]

I have two Treo 750's to upgrade, one upgraded perfectly using the method in step 2, the other keeps presenting 00058002 using exactly the same card that was used to upgrade the first device using the same method...? :mad: any advice?

[bnycastro]

I have two Treo 750's to upgrade, one upgraded perfectly using the method in step 2, the other keeps presenting 00058002 using exactly the same card that was used to upgrade the first device using the same method...? :mad: any advice?have you tried reformatting the card AGAIN in FAT32? maybe the first flash dumped some files in the card so the 2nd flash isn't working? just a guess might be worth a shot.

[Dredger]

have you tried reformatting the card AGAIN in FAT32? maybe the first flash dumped some files in the card so the 2nd flash isn't working? just a guess might be worth a shot.

Yep, no joy... I even tried other images but this device just doesn't want to play.. :( The other one however will take any of the images and comes straight up with the upgrade screen...

[bnycastro]

hmm can't think of anything else... how about having it exchanged?