Mda Compact III

[jonboy8841]

Can someone tell me if the T-Mobile MDA Compact III is wi-fi.

I notice from other forums which state that this version is not wi-fi enabled

Shouldn't be too difficult to edit the registry settings.

Buzz, Maimach We need you, Help !!!

[Slave1]

Doesn't look like it, it isn't mentioned in the manual.

[lmf_slacker]

Connectivity options for Artemis : GPS, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, GPRS/GSM, Infrared, USB, EDGE

[MasK]

Connectivity options for Artemis : GPS, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, GPRS/GSM, Infrared, USB, EDGE

Well.. If you look at the review from MoDaCo, it is stated that theres no IRDA.
Apparantly CnetAsia says it has IRDA...
Kinda fishy...

[lmf_slacker]

hmm yah to believe who then... different version launched in different countries? some with some not?!

[Bman]

Can someone tell me if the T-Mobile MDA Compact III is wi-fi.

I notice from other forums which state that this version is not wi-fi enabled

T-Mobile MDA Compact III Netherlands € 29,95 with 2 year contract

- Wifi
- GPS
- Radio incl. RDS
- incl. 1 GB micro sd card
- incl. Bluetrek S21 bluetooth headset

No infrared
No TomTom

Self installed TomTom 6 works fine. GSM radio works better then MDA compact I. Bluetooth works better then MDA compact I.
Speed is slowish but I don't play Quake 4 on it... :)

Rom versie: 1.13.114.1 NLD
Rom Datum: 9/22/06
Radioversie: 02.49.90
Protocolversie: 4.1.13.25

Modelnr: ARTE110
Platform: PocketPC

[Guenne]

HI,
T-Mobile Austria had the same wrong specs on their page.
The Mda compact III has no Wlan. This device is called HTC Hero AFAIK.
The HTC Artemis has Wlan (I think that O2 will sell this device)
Greez, Guenne

[jonboy8841]

Whats the point ?

no 3g no wi-fi.

Ok so its got bluetooth but so have many 50 quid pay as you go handsets too !!

Big deal its a neat size and built in gps receiver but its lack of connectivity

Surely a step <<<<<<<<<BACKWARDS <<<<<<<<<<< !!!!

[SecureGSM]

WiFI enabled Artemis:

settings-->device information-->Identity--> Model Number:

ARTE100

[vdv]

[QUOTE=Bman;1049099]T-Mobile MDA Compact III Netherlands € 29,95 with 2 year contract

- Wifi
- GPS
- Radio incl. RDS
- incl. 1 GB micro sd card
- incl. Bluetrek S21 bluetooth headset

No infrared
No TomTom

Self installed TomTom 6 works fine. GSM radio works better then MDA compact I. Bluetooth works better then MDA compact I.
Speed is slowish but I don't play Quake 4 on it... :)


I ordered yesterday with TomTom6 (Benelux) for 109,95 and first 4 months 50% on contract

[rjs_artemis]

The HTC p3300 has Wi-Fi standard onboard. Local telecom providers however, are able to choose if they want features like Wi-Fi enabled or disabled. T-mobile Germany decided to sell the MDA Compact III with WiFi disabled (maybe to boost the GPRS usage?). T-mobile The Netherlands decided to let the Wi-Fi feature enabled.
I have a dutch T-mobile MDA Compact III, Model nr. ARTE110, that has WiFi enabled. Bought it btw for EUR 209,- + 15,75 monthly fee, which makes EUR 398,- in total :D.
Maybe the WiFi feature can be enabled/disabled by tweaking the registry or using another ROM?
And does anyone have suggestions how to unlock it?

[chrysaor]

hi rjs_artemis,

can you give a link to a website where you bought it? is this offer also available for non netherlands residents? I am living in Belgium so that I might go to Maastricht and check that wisely :D

Greets

EDIT: Btw is the t-mobile in the neths in Dutch or English? regards ;)

EDIT2: is it locked on t-mobile or unlocked?

[rjs_artemis]

hi rjs_artemis,

can you give a link to a website where you bought it? is this offer also available for non netherlands residents? I am living in Belgium so that I might go to Maastricht and check that wisely :D

Greets

EDIT: Btw is the t-mobile in the neths in Dutch or English? regards ;)

EDIT2: is it locked on t-mobile or unlocked?

I bought it at the T-mobile Online Shop, see here (https://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk/htdocs/page/shopping/product/productdetails.aspx?vid=ResidentialProductSmartpho neDetails&ProductId=2677)
other option is http://www.smartphonestunts.nl/index.php?tid=181
And yes it has a Dutch WM5 and it is locked.

[chrysaor]

As mentionned on the following link https://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk/htdocs/page/shopping/rateplan/postpaidoverview.aspx?vid=ResidentialRateplanPostp aidOverview&tab=Relax&ratePlanId=269&contractPeriodId=1030

the price of the phone shall be 239.95€ with a 15.75€ flex t-mobile abonnement and not 209,- like you mentionned. Therefore the total price reaches 428.95€ and not 398,-, reason why I asked you where you bought it.

Anyway price is still attractive but if you tell me the device is locked on t-mob neth, it doesn't worth one penny for my own.

Regards

[chrysaor]

btw for the old fellahs in here, do you know if pdaphones might be phisically unlocked like mobiles? I think it could be done but need confo ;)

would be a nice opportunity then :)

[Keef]

I had a reply from T-Mobile UK yesterday saying the UK release will not have Wifi.

However I read that the Wifi is all on board on the main Chip
Texas Instruments OMAP 850
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a850

If thats the case then would another ROM not re-enable it?
Or do you recon it's a custom Hardware?
I'd like to stay with T-Mobile for Web'n'Walk but If i cant have the Wifi I'll go elsewhere

O2 I think is due to release the Orbit 27th Nov.

Might wait for that as I assume the package will be better that the ones Expansys is offering on O2 or vodafone with an HTC branded unit.

[rjs_artemis]

As mentionned on the following link https://www.t-mobile.nl/persoonlijk/htdocs/page/shopping/rateplan/postpaidoverview.aspx?vid=ResidentialRateplanPostp aidOverview&tab=Relax&ratePlanId=269&contractPeriodId=1030

the price of the phone shall be 239.95€ with a 15.75€ flex t-mobile abonnement and not 209,- like you mentionned. Therefore the total price reaches 428.95€ and not 398,-, reason why I asked you where you bought it.

Anyway price is still attractive but if you tell me the device is locked on t-mob neth, it doesn't worth one penny for my own.

Regards

We are both right. T-mobile raised their prices for the MDA Compact III at the Online Shop. I ordered it last friday (03-11) for 209,-. On tuesday they raised prices with 30,95, so now it's 239,95 with a 15,75 contract.
Unlocking will be possible very soon. For example see this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-282156.html

[chrysaor]

aye sounds promising ;)

I'll wait before buying until I have some confo about that..

still the question of keef related to the wifi is really interesting... if any has made some tests on an uk or dutch t-mobile version..

[jonboy8841]

Ref Wi-Fi embedded in chip !!

Hi Guys

I have tried to perform a rom update on my Mda Compact 3 using the HTC P3300 latest rom but the compact was having none of it.

It appears to 'drop out' after 3 per cent stating 'incorrect device'.

This is not the usual "incorrect vendor id" so I guess updating with a wi-fi enabled rom is not possible

Why have T-Mobile skimped on this essential feature is beyond me !!!

[butpatbut]

I had a reply from T-Mobile UK yesterday saying the UK release will not have Wifi.

However I read that the Wifi is all on board on the main Chip
Texas Instruments OMAP 850
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a850

If thats the case then would another ROM not re-enable it?
Or do you recon it's a custom Hardware?
I'd like to stay with T-Mobile for Web'n'Walk but If i cant have the Wifi I'll go elsewhere

O2 I think is due to release the Orbit 27th Nov.

Might wait for that as I assume the package will be better that the ones Expansys is offering on O2 or vodafone with an HTC branded unit.

It has wifi I suppose

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?paymentPlanType=pmt&pmid=7323&nmid=phones_ews_overview&menuid=ctl_phones_details

Quote from that link
"All-rounder
The MDA Compact III is a fantastic all-rounder. It’s a dedicated navigation PDA with GPS and TomTom Navigator 6 software preinstalled. It runs on the powerful Windows 5.0 operating system. The Compact III is very user friendly as it has a mouse. Control the cursor with the miniature trackball and use its silver dial as a scroll wheel. Keeping up with your emails is simple and you can surf the internet with web‘n’walk. It has128 MB of internal memory and a microSD card slot for expansion, plus a two mega-pixel digital camera with zoom, flash LED and video capture, an MP3 player, FM radio, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and USB cable connectivity."

[mikealder]

It has128 MB of internal memory.....It has got this fitted - BUT a fair amount of it is in use before you start loading programs etc. Don't be fooled by the sales hype, the device is a tad short on memory and if its had the WiFi disabled I would shop elsewhere to be honest - Mike

[antivirus]

my model have insite "Arte 110" and ser nr HT 642FL1390x

i think wlan is hardware disabled... no network card see ...


mfg :-(

[joe2316]

It has wifi I suppose

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?paymentPlanType=pmt&pmid=7323&nmid=phones_ews_overview&menuid=ctl_phones_details

Quote from that link
"All-rounder
The MDA Compact III is a fantastic all-rounder. It’s a dedicated navigation PDA with GPS and TomTom Navigator 6 software preinstalled. It runs on the powerful Windows 5.0 operating system. The Compact III is very user friendly as it has a mouse. Control the cursor with the miniature trackball and use its silver dial as a scroll wheel. Keeping up with your emails is simple and you can surf the internet with web‘n’walk. It has128 MB of internal memory and a microSD card slot for expansion, plus a two mega-pixel digital camera with zoom, flash LED and video capture, an MP3 player, FM radio, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and USB cable connectivity."

No WIFI for MDA Compact iii in the UK!
T-Mobile UK have amended the text so it no longer mentions Wifi, extracted here- "...Windows Media player, FM radio, Bluetooth and USB cable connectivity."

[ARTE110]

Hoi Hoi,
is somebody out there who owns a MDA Compact III / ARTE110 with Wi-Fi enabled and who is able to post the registry settings for all the Wi-Fi / WLAN stuff ?

I would like to enable Wi-Fi on my MDA Compact III / ARTE110 where it is disabled.

[forgotten_soul]

Hi.

I own a funky T-Mobile MDA Compact 3.
it's a german version, so wifi is disabled.
GRRRRRRRRRR !!! :)

Well, at least, I now have some cute toy to play with,
means : it will be a nice task to find out, how to reactivate it.
I am new to WM 5 "pimping", but well, never mind :)

First clue :

if you use total commander,
you can find some kind of "RemoveWiFi.provxml" in your /windows-directory.
annoyingly it stays hidden, even if you copy it to a pc, where you can't disable the "hidden"-flag in explorer.

I will post the contents here.


<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="Registry">
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Custom\MANF-0001-CARDID-0000-FUNC-1"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN1"/>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\HTCCPL">
<parm name="TotalApplets" value="10" datatype="integer"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager">
<parm name="SupportedFunctions" value="6" datatype="integer"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\2">
<parm name="Default" value="AUTD" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\3">
<parm name="Default" value="DataDisconnection" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\4">
<parm name="Default" value="Vibrate" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\5">
<parm name="Default" value="ActiveSync" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\6"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\HTCCPL\Applet10"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\ControlPanel\Wireless LAN"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App\Tasks"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\DisableProxy"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\KeyIndicator"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\CallRejectMsg"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="FileOperation">
<characteristic type="%CE4%\WiFiInit.lnk" translation="install">
<characteristic type="Delete">
<parm name="ForceDelete"/>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>


maybe that's a start to look at.

Regards from west germany,
Karlheinz Meier aka forgotten_soul

[cactusbob]

That does look interesting, I think I'll copy the setting from my Wizard over later and see what happens

[ARTE110]

Hi Karlheinz,
thank you, I know this file but it describes the keys to be inserted and deleted.
Now we know some keys but not there (former) parameters/values. I need to find the keys and parameters and programs of a Wi-Fi enable ARTE110.

[gladiac]

Hi.

I own a funky T-Mobile MDA Compact 3.
it's a german version, so wifi is disabled.
GRRRRRRRRRR !!! :)

Well, at least, I now have some cute toy to play with,
means : it will be a nice task to find out, how to reactivate it.
I am new to WM 5 "pimping", but well, never mind :)

First clue :

if you use total commander,
you can find some kind of "RemoveWiFi.provxml" in your /windows-directory.
annoyingly it stays hidden, even if you copy it to a pc, where you can't disable the "hidden"-flag in explorer.

I will post the contents here.


<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="Registry">
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Custom\MANF-0001-CARDID-0000-FUNC-1"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN1"/>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\HTCCPL">
<parm name="TotalApplets" value="10" datatype="integer"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager">
<parm name="SupportedFunctions" value="6" datatype="integer"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\2">
<parm name="Default" value="AUTD" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\3">
<parm name="Default" value="DataDisconnection" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\4">
<parm name="Default" value="Vibrate" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\5">
<parm name="Default" value="ActiveSync" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\6"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\HTCCPL\Applet10"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\ControlPanel\Wireless LAN"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App\Tasks"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\DisableProxy"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\KeyIndicator"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\CallRejectMsg"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="FileOperation">
<characteristic type="%CE4%\WiFiInit.lnk" translation="install">
<characteristic type="Delete">
<parm name="ForceDelete"/>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>


maybe that's a start to look at.

Regards from west germany,
Karlheinz Meier aka forgotten_soul

Very good!!! Great Info, thanks. I'm also quite active with reactivating wifi-capabilities of the mda c3. I would be interested in a registry dump of a mda c3 from the netherlands or so because those are wifi enabled...

//edit
I'm now motivated to recreate those deleted reg-entries... let's see what happens :)...

//edit
Do you know if the wifi-driver is still included in /windows/ ?

//edit
good, seems like it does... /windows/tnetwln.dll let's play... :)

//edit
ok, BAD. RemoveWiFi.provxml gets obviously parsed everytime windows starts... Which is crap because it deletes the relevant reg-entries for wifi. I managed to reconstruct the needed reg entries but on restart they are gone. So why not delete this f****ng file from /windows ? The answer is easy... you can't because windows does not want you to... ok, how to work around this kind of write protection.....

// edit
Oh, it _IS_ writeable but not deleteable...

[jrowett]

just ordered one of these beasties, i'm following this thread with interest. presumably, if the worst came to the worst, you could just buy a cheap SD wi-fi card? what would the disadvantages of this be?

[gladiac]

just ordered one of these beasties, i'm following this thread with interest. presumably, if the worst came to the worst, you could just buy a cheap SD wi-fi card? what would the disadvantages of this be?

Disadvantage #1: Tomtom-Maps are big so you definitely NEED a SD-Card
Disadvantage #2: There is no Micro-SD Wifi-Adapter... This is not a charmer ;)

Plus in my opnion... if the hardware supports it... so why the hell not use it? just because of the software that says so? No, I'm sure we will be able to enable wifi in the future...

[cactusbob]

Considering the hardware is virtually the same as the Wizard I'm guessing that settings from there may work. I have the registry and all missing files from a Wizard, but I just need a way to stop them being removed after a reset.

A copy of the Netherlands registry would be very helpful...

[ARTE110]

Hello gladiac,
you wrote:

//edit
ok, BAD. RemoveWiFi.provxml gets obviously parsed everytime windows starts... Which is crap because it deletes the relevant reg-entries for wifi. I managed to reconstruct the needed reg entries but on restart they are gone. So why not delete this f****ng file from /windows ? The answer is easy... you can't because windows does not want you to... ok, how to work around this kind of write protection.....

// edit
Oh, it _IS_ writeable but not deleteable...

...but XML supports comments and comments will not be processed, isn't it.

<!-- this is a comment in XML -->

Sample:
<!--
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager">
<parm name="SupportedFunctions" value="6" datatype="integer"/>
</characteristic>
-->

so lets modify RemoveWiFi.provxml and take a look at the registry after rebooting. Please post the result.

[ARTE110]

There will be a micro SD Wi-Fi in future http://www.spectec.com.tw/products_detal.asp?dptype=w1sdw823. May be the size will not fit for MDA Compact III.

[ARTE110]

Support required from those who have Wi-Fi enabled:

Is somebody out there who owns a MDA Compact III / ARTE110 with Wi-Fi enabled and who is able to post the registry settings for all the Wi-Fi / WLAN stuff (see below) ?

HKLM\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Custom\MANF-0001-CARDID-0000-FUNC-1
HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN
HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN1
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\HTCCPL
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\HTCCPL [TotalApplets]
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager [SupportedFunctions]
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\2 [Default]
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\3 [Default]
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\4 [Default]
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\5 [Default]
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\6 [Default]
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\HTCCPL\Applet10
HKLM\ControlPanel\Wireless LAN
HKLM\Services\App
HKLM\Services\App\Tasks
HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\DisableProxy
HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\KeyIndicator
HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\CallRejectMsg

and the reference of WiFiInit.lnk

[thormdac]

possibly just a little off the topic, but look here:

at :http://www.imei-check.co.uk/c3unlock.php

it is stated:

(removes SIM/NETWORK LOCK - use any provider, removes CID lock - flash any firmware)

"FLASH ANY FIRMWARE" ???? does this mean we can flash forign firmware?
My gadget is unlocked, any idea on how to save my orig. rom,, ...and i am up and running as a guinnea-pig!!!???

cheers

p.s.:

just started the update routine of the wwe rom from the wiki (ART_HTCWWE_11140501_024990_WWE_Test_R ) and yes, it starts up properly and kicks me out just because my battery power is below 50% !!!

So I ll charge and try again

PLEASE though: any idea howto backup my original rom????



OK...Charged to more than 50% percent update routine reads : current information on your pda..., select from below: update

next step: verify :

image version: 1.13.111.1

to

version: 1.11.405.1

you are now ready to update...

machine enters bootloader mode ( i suppose ) and update starts...

shit, this will work!!!! I am aborting... HOW TO BACKUP MY EXISTING ROM ???? PLS help

[treblechance]

Who is it with, Austria or UK? Does your provider website have a ROM backup?

I so hope this works!

[Flocky]

Austria is without WLAN/Wi-Fi... even thought the shop and the hotline told me it had WLAN- the day after i signed a new contract an got my MDA Compact III another Guy from the hotline comfirmed: no WLAN :mad: :mad:

Files on the CD are named HERO, so i suppose it's a light version of the ARTEMIS... hopefully WLAN is deactivatet via Software... i would bother doing Hardwaremods with a brand new MDA :mad:

Flocky

[gladiac]

OK, what I've got so far... Some parts are still missing though...

First of all... Yes, the ARTE110 is capable wo WiFi because T-Mobile just removes some registry keys at startup and woops, wifi is gone. It is now for sure that the RemoveWifi.proxml gets parsed everytime then WM starts. The file is not deleteable but writeable so you should comment all tags (not the start end ending tag) out and this danger is abandonned. You can also turn each nocharacterisctic-tag to characterisctic (the no indicates the removal of the given key. the others create or in that case overwrite keys and values). I admit, I didn't try commenting the entries, but in my opinion there is a good chance that it works.

Good, so the big problem is still that it minimally got parsed one time (first startup of you mda) so the registry keys are already gone. We have to recreate all the entries. (You will need PHM Registry Editor (http://www.phm.lu/products/PocketPC/RegEdit/))

create the keys:
HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN
HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN\Linkage
HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN1
HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN1\Params

Those are important for Driver assignment and so on.
Now some Values must be set to the keys.

Create the String Values in HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN:
"DisplayName="SDIO WLAN Wireless Adapter"
"Group"=NDIS"
"ImagePath"="tnetwln.dll"

Create the String Values in HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN\Linkage:
"Route"="TNETWLN1"

Create the String Values in HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN1:
"DisplayName="SDIO WLAN Wireless Adapter"
"Group"=NDIS"
"ImagePath"="tnetwln.dll"

Create the DWORD Values in HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN1\Params:
"BusNumber"=dword:00000000
"BusType"=dword:00000000
"dot11DesiredTxRate"=dword:00000000
"dot11ShortPreambleInvoked"=dword:00000001
"dot11SupportedRateMask"=dword:00000001
"HTCPowerMode"=dword:00000000
"HTCPowerSaveRxDataThreshold"=dword:00000002
"HTCPowerSaveTimeout"=dword:0000003c
"HTCPowerSaveTxDataThreshold"=dword:00000001
"PAType"=dword:00000001
"PrivacyMode"=dword:00000002
"RateFallBackThreshold"=dword:00000080
"ResetOnResume"=dword:00000001
"Sysintr"=dword:00000023
"Testmode"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\TNETWLN1\Parms\Tcpip]
"DhcpMaxRetry"=dword:00000015
"DhcpRetryDialogue"=dword:00000008


Good, we have successfully created a Network interface with the tnetwln.dll driver. But that's by far not enough.
Get to HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCCP . Increase the DWORD-Data in TotalApplets by one. Now create a new key "Applet$number$" where $number$ is by one higher than the highest already available number. In my case it was Applet10. Now, add the following String Values to this key:

"CmdLine"=""
"Name"="Wireless LAN"
"Path"="WLANSettings.exe"
"Title"="Wireless LAN"

Create the Key HKLM\ControlPanel\Wireless LAN and the value (DWORD):
"Group"=dword:00000002

If you open up your settings screen you see 3 sliders the left one is Group 0 with the personal stuff. Group 1 (in the middle) is the slider for the for system settings. and Group 2 is the connectivity slider. Now it should be clear why we want to add the Wireless LAN thing to group 2 ;)

OK, lets do some magic to the comm manager...
HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager is the point of interest. There is a Value called "SupportedFunctions" set with a DWORD entry. The number in this value must be increased by 1 to make CommManager able to handle 1 more applet. You see some keys in CommManager which are just numbers. Those are, numeric sorted, the applet setters for CommManager so that it knows which applets should be loaded at start. We already increased the maximum number of handled applets by 1. Now create a new Applet-Entry. Create a new key, for example, 6 (must be by 1 higher than the highest already available key)

You now have HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\6 and need to set a String-Value:
"Default"="Wlan"

This enables the next applet with the Wlan-Module.

Status
So, the CommManager would be able to handle wifi correctly. In Network Interfaces, there is our newly created Integrated Wireless LAN Adapter added. RemoveWifi.proxml is now harmless. We added Wireless Lan to the Connection-Slider of the Settings-Program. Biggest problem... the wireless tools that handle wireless settings are not available on my system. I took those from a prophet (here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26933&d=1142589665)) but they don't run. Plus, I'm sure I missed some things in the registry. PLUS, I don't really know atm how the driver-hardware assignment exactly works on Win... How should WM5 know what a wifi-adapter is...

Ok, what about team work? :D

bye

[ARTE110]

Hello gladiac,
something went wrong on my device. The file Windows\RemoveWifi.provxml is NOT writeable it's part of the ROM. What do I have missed to do ?

[menkul]

Hello gladiac,
something went wrong on my device. The file Windows\RemoveWifi.provxml is NOT writeable it's part of the ROM. What do I have missed to do ?

Hi, with Totalcommander for PPc can you edit

[ARTE110]

Hi, with Totalcommander for PPc can you edit

Ok thanx, with TC I can change the File but after Soft Reset I get a lot of System Messages "Error due changes in device settings" as SMS. They are old and I can get rid of them. They will be restored after each soft reset even if I switch back to the original RemoveWifi.provxml and "Removed Objects" folder cleared,.

Do anybody know how to specify parm/datatype for DWORD in the Provisioning file RemoveWifi.provxml ?

[fluxkompensator]

why are you all so sure that SW can do the trick? Maybee you can get back the WiFi Controls but what if there is simply no antenna wired to the wifi chipset within the OMAP as it is with Charmer?

anybody with a proof that the dutch ART110 does wife?

OT: my ART200 (Cruiser) Xda Orbit has IR controlls but no IR :)

[Samson711]

A man can dream, a man can dream ;) I think no one is absolut sure, but everyone would love it to be disabled via Software :)) So Every Try is worth it.
And i find it "fascinating" that theres IR Controls but no IR Device.. Lol...

[mikealder]

And i find it "fascinating" that theres IR Controls but no IR DeviceThe same icon "Receive all incoming beams" actually controls incoming "Beamed" files that are sent to you using Bluetooth - Mike

[gladiac]

why are you all so sure that SW can do the trick? Maybee you can get back the WiFi Controls but what if there is simply no antenna wired to the wifi chipset within the OMAP as it is with Charmer?

anybody with a proof that the dutch ART110 does wife?

OT: my ART200 (Cruiser) Xda Orbit has IR controlls but no IR :)

This is definitely possible... But I don't like that thought... My thought is that they just simply deactivated wifi since they announced wifi but launched it without (for whatever reason). The arte110 from the netherlands supports wifi and as we all know there is a RemoveWifi and a RemoveGPS file. My RemoveGPS is nearly empty... But it would be easy for them to deactivate GPS (to sell it cheaper? maybe that was the reason for deactivating wifi. Or they did because they want to push gprs... who knows...). In fact it creates a softlink. In my opinion the arte110 from the netherlands also HAS those 2 files... but they are both empty or at least harmless. So that's why I think it's just a damn software thing. One of those arte110 from the netherlands would be very helpful (I mentioned that already 3 times now).

Why I'm sure that it in fact HAS Wifi? (here (https://www.t-mobile.nl/zakelijk/htdocs/page/shopping/product/productdetails.aspx?vid=CompanyProductSmartphoneDe tails&ProductId=2677))

[chrysaor]

nice intitiative! keep up the good work and also think about a way to unsimlock the device if you have some time to spare ;)

Regards to your work guys and gals!

[gladiac]

Ok thanx, with TC I can change the File but after Soft Reset I get a lot of System Messages "Error due changes in device settings" as SMS. They are old and I can get rid of them. They will be restored after each soft reset even if I switch back to the original RemoveWifi.provxml and "Removed Objects" folder cleared,.

Do anybody know how to specify parm/datatype for DWORD in the Provisioning file RemoveWifi.provxml ?

I don't really know what went wrong on your device. You might have done a syntax error to the RemoveWifi.provxml or something but if you copy back the original file, which you can't (because you can't delete the file so you can't overwrite it I think), it should work. You could copy the text in your backup and write it back. What did you exactly do?

[thormdac]

howdy,

looking at my windows startup via sktools an entry is displayed by the name of:

\windows\wirelessservice.dll

with an order entry= 0

Loaded as service

note: my hero is in an original state!

[gladiac]

howdy,

looking at my windows startup via sktools an entry is displayed by the name of:

\windows\wirelessservice.dll

with an order entry= 0

Loaded as service

note: my hero is in an original state!

I also noticed that service but I don't know what it really does atm

//edit
I think it is the GSM/GPRS Service. If you have a look at the wirelessonoff.2bp it is the tray-symbol of the gsm-stuff...

[gladiac]

OOOOh :)
WLANSettings.exe now launches without crashing! You have to rename the WLANSettings.exe.mui.0409 (from here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26933&d=1142589665)) to WLANSettings.exe.mui.$number$ where $number$ is the number you also have in the other mui-files on your system. Mine was 407 btw ;). It still can't handle the Wifi-Adapter... But we are one step closer again!

//edit
Hmm, atm I don't have any idea what needs to be done to get wifi work. any ideas?

//edit
Does anyone know what WLanMgr.exe exactly does? I don't have it on my device but I read that it exists on some other smartphones with wifi...

[rjs_artemis]

This is definitely possible... But I don't like that thought... My thought is that they just simply deactivated wifi since they announced wifi but launched it without (for whatever reason). The arte110 from the netherlands supports wifi and as we all know there is a RemoveWifi and a RemoveGPS file. My RemoveGPS is nearly empty... But it would be easy for them to deactivate GPS (to sell it cheaper? maybe that was the reason for deactivating wifi. Or they did because they want to push gprs... who knows...). In fact it creates a softlink. In my opinion the arte110 from the netherlands also HAS those 2 files... but they are both empty or at least harmless. So that's why I think it's just a damn software thing. One of those arte110 from the netherlands would be very helpful (I mentioned that already 3 times now).

Why I'm sure that it in fact HAS Wifi? (here (https://www.t-mobile.nl/zakelijk/htdocs/page/shopping/product/productdetails.aspx?vid=CompanyProductSmartphoneDe tails&ProductId=2677))

Gladiac: I have a Dutch Artemis 110 from T-mobile with WiFi enabled.
Looking at the "RemoveWifi.provxml" file you mentioned, the contents are as follows:
<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="Registry">
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Custom\MANF-0001-CARDID-0000-FUNC-1"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN1"/>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\HTCCPL">
<parm name="TotalApplets" value="10" datatype="integer"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager">
<parm name="SupportedFunctions" value="6" datatype="integer"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\2">
<parm name="Default" value="AUTD" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\3">
<parm name="Default" value="DataDisconnection" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\4">
<parm name="Default" value="Vibrate" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\5">
<parm name="Default" value="ActiveSync" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\6"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\HTCCPL\Applet10"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\ControlPanel\Wireless LAN"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App\Tasks"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\DisableProxy"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\KeyIndicator"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\CallRejectMsg"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="FileOperation">
<characteristic type="%CE4%\WiFiInit.lnk" translation="install">
<characteristic type="Delete">
<parm name="ForceDelete"/>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>

No time right now for a register export, but let me know if you need me to check anything.

[ARTE110]

OOOOh :)
WLANSettings.exe now launches without crashing! You have to rename the WLANSettings.exe.mui.0409 (from here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26933&d=1142589665)) to WLANSettings.exe.mui.$number$ where $number$ is the number you also have in the other mui-files on your system. Mine was 407 btw ;). It still can't handle the Wifi-Adapter... But we are one step closer again!

//edit
Hmm, atm I don't have any idea what needs to be done to get wifi work. any ideas?

//edit
Does anyone know what WLanMgr.exe exactly does? I don't have it on my device but I read that it exists on some other smartphones with wifi...

@next
Don't we need additional device description in the registry to store vendor data, the default channel, encryption, ... . Something like the SDIO part in the RemoveWifi file.

[cactusbob]

rjs_artemis - A full export of the registry would be extremely useful to compare

[gladiac]

Gladiac: I have a Dutch Artemis 110 from T-mobile with WiFi enabled.
Looking at the "RemoveWifi.provxml" file you mentioned, the contents are as follows:
<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="Registry">
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Custom\MANF-0001-CARDID-0000-FUNC-1"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Comm\TNETWLN1"/>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\HTCCPL">
<parm name="TotalApplets" value="10" datatype="integer"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager">
<parm name="SupportedFunctions" value="6" datatype="integer"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\2">
<parm name="Default" value="AUTD" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\3">
<parm name="Default" value="DataDisconnection" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\4">
<parm name="Default" value="Vibrate" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\5">
<parm name="Default" value="ActiveSync" datatype="string"/>
</characteristic>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\6"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\HTCCPL\Applet10"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\ControlPanel\Wireless LAN"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App\Tasks"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\DisableProxy"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\KeyIndicator"/>
<nocharacteristic type="HKLM\Services\App\Tasks\CallRejectMsg"/>
</characteristic>
<characteristic type="FileOperation">
<characteristic type="%CE4%\WiFiInit.lnk" translation="install">
<characteristic type="Delete">
<parm name="ForceDelete"/>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>

No time right now for a register export, but let me know if you need me to check anything.

VERY interesting... (ok, now I don't understand the meaning of this file but ok...) Yes, a reg-export would be impressively helpful plus the WiFiInit.exe from \windows\ and the corresponding WiFiInit.lnk ;)

@next
Don't we need additional device description in the registry to store vendor data, the default channel, encryption, ... . Something like the SDIO part in the RemoveWifi file.

Yes, I think you are right. The reg-export of the dutch artemis will be the key i think.

greets

[rjs_artemis]

VERY interesting... (ok, now I don't understand the meaning of this file but ok...) Yes, a reg-export would be impressively helpful plus the WiFiInit.exe from \windows\ and the corresponding WiFiInit.lnk ;)

Yes, I think you are right. The reg-export of the dutch artemis will be the key i think.

greets

Let me hand you the key then :)
See attachment for a registry export of my Dutch MDA Compact III, including some WiFi files like WiFiInit.exe like you mentioned. I removed some keys from the registry file due to privacy reasons, so I suggest you only use the file for analysis.
Btw, if someone finds out how to unlock the MDA Compact III: please let me know.
Good luck figuring out how to enable WiFi!

[gladiac]

Let me hand you the key then :)
See attachment for a registry export of my Dutch MDA Compact III, including some WiFi files like WiFiInit.exe like you mentioned. I removed some keys from the registry file due to privacy reasons, so I suggest you only use the file for analysis.
Btw, if someone finds out how to unlock the MDA Compact III: please let me know.
Good luck figuring out how to enable WiFi!

Yea Baby Yea Baby Yea!!! Let's see ...

Thank youuuu ;)

[ARTE110]

Let me hand you the key then :)
See attachment for a registry export of my Dutch MDA Compact III, including some WiFi files like WiFiInit.exe like you mentioned. I removed some keys from the registry file due to privacy reasons, so I suggest you only use the file for analysis.
Btw, if someone finds out how to unlock the MDA Compact III: please let me know.
Good luck figuring out how to enable WiFi!

What tool can I use to create such an export of the registry ?

[cactusbob]

PHM regedit

[ARTE110]

PHM regedit

OK, but I am currently not able to create such a "Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00" export of the registry (UNICODE) ?
Can I use it for import from file as well ?

[cactusbob]

Import doesnt seem to work, use Resco Explorer instead

[rjs_artemis]

....
I removed some keys from the registry file due to privacy reasons, so I suggest you only use the file for analysis.
...

I used Resco Registry editor for the export. The export however, was meant for comparison only and is not 100% complete (all WiFi related stuff is of course).

[MADJID]

any chance of rom update to unable wifi or little Registry application!

[ARTE110]

I would like to start this evening using the registry setting from rjs_artemis. Are there any news or hints to turn the Hero to a Artemis ?
Do I need additional tools (Wifi companion, sockets, ...) ?

[gladiac]

I would like to start this evening using the registry setting from rjs_artemis. Are there any news or hints to turn the Hero to a Artemis ?
Do I need additional tools (Wifi companion, sockets, ...) ?

Hmm, I dunno what still needs to be done. I dunno atm, why the dutch artemis also has the SAME RemoveWifi.provxml, but has the reg-keys that are needed for wifi. It has nothing to do with the registry imo. We also dunno WHEN the file actually gets parsed. Maybe it's a bootloader thing? Just something _before_ WM5 gets up at bootup? Ideas?

Whatever

Those keys are interesting...

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Active\65]
"Hnd"=dword:008A3BC0
"Name"="PAL1:"
"Key"="Drivers\\Builtin\\WIFISVC"
"ClientInfo"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WIFISVC]
"Order"=dword:00000003
"Index"=dword:00000001
"Dll"="WIFISVC.DLL"
"Prefix"="PAL"

I already added them to my reg but the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Active\65] gets deleted every time i make a softreset...

@rjs_artemis
Can you pls show us your extended_rom contents?

[Stal-Ker]

@gladiac
It's Extended_rom from NL Arte110??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282156

[gladiac]

@gladiac
It's Extended_rom from NL Arte110??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282156

Ah, right... just forgot that that thread exists...

[ARTE110]

Hmm, I dunno what still needs to be done. I dunno atm, why the dutch artemis also has the SAME RemoveWifi.provxml, but has the reg-keys that are needed for wifi. It has nothing to do with the registry imo. We also dunno WHEN the file actually gets parsed. Maybe it's a bootloader thing? Just something _before_ WM5 gets up at bootup? Ideas?

Whatever

Those keys are interesting...

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Active\65]
"Hnd"=dword:008A3BC0
"Name"="PAL1:"
"Key"="Drivers\\Builtin\\WIFISVC"
"ClientInfo"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WIFISVC]
"Order"=dword:00000003
"Index"=dword:00000001
"Dll"="WIFISVC.DLL"
"Prefix"="PAL"

I already added them to my reg but the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Active\65] gets deleted every time i make a softreset...

@rjs_artemis
Can you pls show us your extended_rom contents?

This behavior should be OK, because (only) the Device Manager controls the Active key in the registry. The Problem is that the Device Manager is not able to activate the device [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WIFISVC].

[thormdac]

how about checking if somebody like for example vijay or so can help with changing the complete rom to one from the netherland guys. naturally we would need a means to dump their rom.

in addition: did you try to "change" the original extrom to the netherland extrom?

or do you believe it to be part of the wm5 procedure?

[gladiac]

how about checking if somebody like for example vijay or so can help with changing the complete rom to one from the netherland guys. naturally we would need a means to dump their rom.

in addition: did you try to "change" the original extrom to the netherland extrom?

or do you believe it to be part of the wm5 procedure?

How can we dump the rom?

This behavior should be OK, because (only) the Device Manager controls the Active key in the registry. The Problem is that the Device Manager is not able to activate the device [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WIFISVC].

Ok, understood.

[thormdac]

@gladiac,

seen post???: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283708

now , if unlocking the extrom with the neo unlocker is possible.....what else can be transferred???

p.s.: via:???? http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5EditROM

[gladiac]

@gladiac,

seen post???: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283708

now , if unlocking the extrom with the neo unlocker is possible.....what else can be transferred???

p.s.: via:???? http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5EditROM

I'm still new so please be gentle... my knowledge about the whole topic is 4 days old or so.

I'm on a unix-machine here so I can't test atm. I will give it a try tomorrow at work.

[thormdac]

@gladiac,

pls. see my post "scrapped extrom" !

since this happened, my gdget starts up clean, displaying wlan in commanager and in connection. pitty though, cant start either of them. trying to import files from the netherland extrom it prevents copying "PP_System_Wifi" file.

unfortunately i cant copy files to microsd and from there to gadget yet as i dont have my sdcard yet.

interesting?!
p.s.:
installing the orig extrom cabs by hand the entries are gone!

[vad]

dont know maybe i am stupid and blind. I just got the UK version of the MDA compact 3 and it doesnt have:
WIFI - as we already know
MSN - removed from the windows derectory all together (no trace of pmsn.exe anywhere)
MiniSD card - this is just unaceptable. why the hell to have gps on board and not have where to install the nav soft?

has anyone else have the same?

[victoradjei]

MiniSD card - this is just unaceptable. why the hell to have gps on board and not have where to install the nav soft?

has anyone else have the same?

If you read your manual, you would see that there is a micro sd slot under the sim card holder :)

[vad]

If you read your manual, you would see that there is a micro sd slot under the sim card holder :)

:) indeed!!! i wish i could make myself to read those manuals. what about the msn?

[gladiac]

:) indeed!!! i wish i could make myself to read those manuals. what about the msn?

MSN?... gone (if it ever was there...)

[taug6]

gladiac,

please keep us posted about any progress on the wifi front

[fdp24]

This is extract from TI about their OMAP850 chip.
You can see Wi-Fi is not integrated, but can be interfaced with additional circuits. It very well maybe that chip responsible for WLAN is not in place. I don't see particular reason for this.

From TI:
The OMAP850 chipset is a flexible, scalable solution with the
performance and low power required for systems addressing EDGE
applications, including multimedia, gaming and camera functionality.
In addition to the solution’s components, modules are also available
for incorporating camera, A-GPS and WLAN capabilities to bring
added, optional capabilities.

HTC P3300 has a full functionalities, everything anounced is enabled.
Don't have any problems. But it cost a different money, I guess.

[Samson711]

Which Version of the Artemis do you referr to? The Artemis or Hero? I haven't found an answer to the question whether T-Mobile orders different devices for example the Netherlands and Germany, because T-Mobile Artemis in Netherlands do have WiFi, whereas in Germany its disabled. I hope your post does not put an end to the WiFi issue because the gadget is missing the proper Hardware :(

[thormdac]

i dont quite believe it to be the end of the german discussion.

i messed up my extrom and my gadget now restarts purely wm5. after the startup preceeding a hard reset, the commanager displays a wlan option, as well as the connection settings displaying wlan options. both can be started, but do not lead to anything. once i softreset the gadget, those entries are gone. this to me raises hopes on the wifi being disabled by some or the other "something" integrated in the tmobile wm5 -rom.

now, should we at some stage be able to flash a forign rom ( like the netherland) by bypassing the CID lock which momentarrily seems to be the reason for this to malfunction, than i have my hopes up high on us proving it to either have or not to have wlan!

[gladiac]

gladiac,

please keep us posted about any progress on the wifi front

I don't have much time atm and I have not much ideas left what needs to be done to enable wifi. I would really really like to open my artemis to check things out but... I still need it ;).

[Samson711]

I am going to unlock a MDA Compact III German T-Mobile hopefully this weekend (if it gets delivered) via IMEI-check... It says there that also CID is removed. Can that be of any help regarding a possible free unlocker, like the one Pof created for the Vario II? Let me know if i can be of any help

[Samson711]

See Post #5 in the Thread "How is your Artemis??"

I`d say if this is true, that was it with WiFi on T-Mobile Germany Devices, though i cannot believe it still ;) Maybe we`ll find out more when gladiac has his MDA and opens it :)

so long...

[jstubbings]

Hi , I have got a friend who works for HTC UK, I asked him does the MDA Compact III have wi-fi hardware in it .... he replied that it was removed at the request of t-mobile THERE IS NO WI-FI! ....

Just thought id raise this and save everyone the trouble of disembling devices, and killing there ROM's to get it>......I have a MDA compact III and would love to be proved wrong but I dont think you can make a chip appear.

[alex0078]

Hi , I have got a friend who works for HTC UK, I asked him does the MDA Compact III have wi-fi hardware in it .... he replied that it was removed at the request of t-mobile THERE IS NO WI-FI! ....

Just thought id raise this and save everyone the trouble of disembling devices, and killing there ROM's to get it>......I have a MDA compact III and would love to be proved wrong but I dont think you can make a chip appear.

Hi, just wonder if your friend can truly understand the difference between actual hardware being removed and program hack to remove the functionality of wi-fi?
Since you say he works for HTC UK, there is a great chance he is not an engeneer, and if he had got an answer "removed" from someone inside HTC, there is a chance that he could misinterpreted it as "hardware removed" and answer your question positively.

P.S. Or maybe you work for T-mobile and don't want us to uncover wi-fi? :-)

Have fun!

[thormdac]

BAD NEWS!!!

I just couldnt wait any longer to get past CID lock, so I unlocked at http://www.imei-check.co.uk/
(removes SIM/NETWORK LOCK - use any provider, removes CID lock - flash any firmware)
costs: 30,68 euros.

good news: cid unlocked, upgrade to any rom now possible!

bad news: WLAN DOES NOT WORK !!!

[DennisF]

BAD NEWS!!!

I just couldnt wait any longer to get past CID lock, so I unlocked at http://www.imei-check.co.uk/

costs: 30,68 euros.

good news: cid unlocked, upgrade to any rom now possible!

bad news: WLAN DOES NOT WORK !!!

You did capture the output, right :P ?

[thormdac]

You did capture the output, right :P ?


if you mean the cid unlock *.unl - file ? yes sure i captured it!

but why are you asking? or did i get you wrong?

[chrysaor]

thormdac, are you somehow able to install a ROM from different language?

[thormdac]

thormdac, are you somehow able to install a ROM from different language?


howdy,

yes, once cid etc. is removed via imei-check.co.uk i downloaded the wwe-rom from the wiki and reflashed my german rom to the english rom.

[chrysaor]

thanks for the info thormdac. just a stupid question: how did you flash the rom? did you just connect PPC with activesync and ran the rom.exe or have you gone through the whole process (copy on empty SD etc)?

Regards

[thormdac]

simply start the normal update routine( ppc activesync) .-- alternatively you can look for the files in the temp folder, copy them to another directory and start setup from there, but first way works no probs.

[chrysaor]

erm by "first way", you mean "run the rom.exe" on your PC with PPC connected through activesync? :D

Regards

[thormdac]

to be precise: installer named : "art_tmouk_11311001_024990_wwe_ship",

alternatively once extracted from temp folder : "ROMUpdateUtility"

both with ppc and activesync, and utilities started from pc!

[chrysaor]

aye thx thormdac :D

[cactusbob]

If you installed the T-mobile UK ROM of course the Wi-Fi wont work

[thormdac]

If you installed the T-mobile UK ROM of course the Wi-Fi wont work

mind you being somewhat more specific, please?

which rom (and where from?) would you suggest?

[Samson711]

I thought the UK Version of the MDA Compact III had WiFi enabled?? or was it only the dutch? I think there is no dutch ROM available to test that, is there?!

[zaine]

This is of no use to those outside the UK, I know, but the O2 version of an Artemis (called Orbit - http://www.my-xda.com/looksXdaOrbit.html) HAS wi fi enabled (according to the website)

So I guess I'll be off to O2 next month with my PAC as the wifi is a big advantage for me.

Good work from T-Mobile UK - how to lose customers and enhance the competition.

What were they thinking???!!!

[Stal-Ker]

Here is UK MDA without WiFi
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?nmid=phones_ews_specifications&paymentPlanType=pmt&pmid=7326&menuid=ctl_phones_details

:))

[cactusbob]

Yes the UK ROM has wi-fi disabled, it's on the ftp site here

[Paul Fraser]

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_Upgrades
gives a HTC 1.12 rom. Have you tried this one rather than the (later version) T-mobile 1.13 one? Or is this the one you downloaded and tried?

[thormdac]

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Artemis_Upgrades
gives a HTC 1.12 rom. Have you tried this one rather than the (later version) T-mobile 1.13 one? Or is this the one you downloaded and tried?

htc 1.12 gives me "wrong model id"-- even though i am cid unlocked!!!
installed "tmouk 1.13" from wiki

[Paul Fraser]

There's another thread on here that I saw this morning that mentioned this will happen if you have the wrong bootloader. Unfortunately, I don't know how to change the bootloader...

This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282195

[mr.smile1]

I find it very unlikely that T-Mobile UK and T-Mobile Germany as the biggest markets decide to order the HTC Hermes / aka MDAc 3 WITHOUT a physical WLANchip - and T-Mobile Dutch takes some quantities of a WLANenabled MDAc 3.

This makes no business sense.
Why would the dutch market justify the sale of a "fully enabled" MDAc3 ??

Somehow, all this is very strange.
Is there no SW program that can read out the WLAN chip signature from a dutch MDA, maybe then we can compare ?

Is there anyone on this forum with a Dutch MDAc3 ??

[gladiac]

Good to see that the thread is active again :). Seems like I have some time tomorrow to check some things out. I will still play with the original firmware from TMobile. Some Reghacks or something... I don't want to give up my first approach yet.

Yes, it would be impressively interesting if wifi works with a dutch firmware. Cool that there are some guys on that topic :).

Don't get me wrong... I would really love to see a disassembled artemis but that should NOT be mine ;). So, no, I wont open my artemis.

Ok, maybe I will post tomorrow, cu

[Paul Fraser]

How about flashing the MDA with the O2 Orbit ROM: would that work?

[DennisF]

I'll grab mine (t-mobile) and attach it in a sec, just a soon as I've figured out how to dump it.

[cactusbob]

Can you tell us the software versions on your too? Device ID would be interesting

[thormdac]

How about flashing the MDA with the O2 Orbit ROM: would that work?


for me and all others having unlocked their cid it would work!!!---but where can i get an 02 rom from???

[low405]

I've used the imeicheck unlocker on my UK MDA Compact III and I still can't flash the HTC Roms. Invalid device error is given.

I tried to look at the CID lock level with mtty.exe but got an invalid command error.

It seems to me that the unlock allows us to flash any rom from the same device but not different devices.

I believe the currently known device ID's are:

HTC = arte100
T-Mobile = arte110
O2 = arte200

Has anyone been able to flash a rom designed for a different type "brand" of Artemis?

Phil

[thormdac]

intresting,

i contacted imeicheck concerning this matter and am awaiting their reaction.
btw: they stated it to be a C3- unlock !!!

[thormdac]

their answer:



Hello,

you are wrong. For sure you try to flash a NOT compatible firmware.

It sounds like you try to flash HTC Artemis firmware on a HTC Hero or vice versa.

The HTC Artemis has different chipset inside (it has additional WiFi chipset) than the HTC Hero. (In case you just try to enable WiFi on a Hero... the WiFi chipset is missing, no firmware/software can replace a missing chipset + antenna)!

>From outside both devices look same but inside they have different hardware.

Flashing a ROM from another device most likely will cause serious damage to it.

Regards,

IMEI-CHECK Team


and just a second later


Hello,

up to now only T-Mobile sells the HTC Hero (the version without WiFi).

Nevertheless you have the following options:

- flash any HTC Hero version you like (T-Mob-UK-English, T-Mob-GER-German, T-Mob...)
- to skip installing the "nice" T-Mobile branding immediately skip the installation of Extended ROM (a message comes up: "Please wait, device will configure in 3 seconds") after hard reset by sticking in "Reset".

We opened HERO device and it is missing the WiFi chipset. So we gave up to try to flash HTC Artemis ROM since there is no real reason to risk a device.

Regards,

IMEI-CHECK Team




End of the story: NO WLAN ON HERO !!!!!!

[low405]

Well I would say that this is false advertising as the web page clearly states that any ROM will be flashable onto any of the devices listed (HTC Artemis, Compact 3, XDA Orbit, etc.)

I quote from this page http://www.imei-check.co.uk/c3unlock.php

"HTC Artemis(T-Mobile MDA Compact3, XDA Orbit, Dopod P800)
(removes SIM/NETWORK LOCK - use any provider, removes CID lock - flash any firmware)"

I have saved the web page as I can predict that it will change pretty quickly as the Hermes page now has no mention of CID unlock.

[fdp24]

Please read my previous post. In some phones WLAN circuits are not present.
More info.
I've installed T-Mobile (UK) on my HTC sold in Europe. Everything is ok, WLAN is operational. There is nothing disabled in software.
regard.

[victoradjei]

More info.
I've installed T-Mobile (UK) on my HTC sold in Europe. Everything is ok, WLAN is operational. There is nothing disabled in software.
regard.

fdp24, did you see any improvements when you moved to the T-mo rom from the stock HTC?

Victor

[thormdac]

More info.
I've installed T-Mobile (UK) on my HTC sold in Europe. Everything is ok, WLAN is operational. There is nothing disabled in software.
regard.

Are you sure you succeeded with this? Imeicheck support constantly claim this not be possible as the machines have superCID preventing this: if still performed, gadget garbage! How did you manage to install htc rom? I always get "wrong model ID", even though I am CID unlocked!

[thormdac]

Well I would say that this is false advertising as the web page clearly states that any ROM will be flashable onto any of the devices listed (HTC Artemis, Compact 3, XDA Orbit, etc.)

I quote from this page http://www.imei-check.co.uk/c3unlock.php

"HTC Artemis(T-Mobile MDA Compact3, XDA Orbit, Dopod P800)
(removes SIM/NETWORK LOCK - use any provider, removes CID lock - flash any firmware)"

I have saved the web page as I can predict that it will change pretty quickly as the Hermes page now has no mention of CID unlock.

after having discussed this with imei check at length, this is what I ended up with:

Hello,
Our deal is to unlock the phone and to make it supercid.
We DID BOTH parts!!
Your device is SIMUNLOCKED now and SUPERCID (accepting ANY COMPATIBLE firmwares before your handset was accepting ONLY the german T-MOBILE C3 firmware!!!) WE NEVER PROMISED THAT WE WILL MAKE YOUR PHONE FLY!
If you want to take this matter to lawyers feel free to do so.
But remember that your phone is UNLOCKED and SUPERCID!


Stop spamming us!
Regards,

IMEI-CHECK Team

[florin_m]

CID:
CID is used to lock the device to a specific vendor firmware.
When phone is CID locked and you try to flash the firmware from a different vendor the flash software will return the error: INVALID VENDOR ID .
If you make it SUPERCID , the the phone it will accept ANY compatible firmwares .
Even if you patch the flasher to send the firmware to the phone, the phone itself will check against the CID data and if is lock and CID not matching it will refuse the flashing.


Device ID.
The flasher check to see if the phone is compatible with the firmware is trying to flash to.
For example if you try to flash HTC Universal with HTC Hermes firmware.
The flasher in this case will return error: "wrong model ID"
IF you patch the flasher, the phone it will NOT complain about the firmware and it will flash it, but is NOT guaranteed that the phone it will work with that firmware.

So your phones are SUPERCID now.

To check this, run MTTY and type:
set 32 0
IF the phone answer at the end with
"Level=0xFF" means CID locked
IF the phone answer with
"Level=0" then is supercid

[fdp24]

victoradjei:
I was using Russian ROM before installing T-Mobile. For me it is easier to work with English menus. This was one of the reason why I've switched.
About improvements. I cann't say of any.
Some differences.
- version of rom itself higher than it was before. 1.13.110.1 WWE vs. original 1.12.411.1 RUS
- version of radio is lower than original. 02.49.90 vs. 02.67.90
- ipl and spl are newer than original. ipl 1.13.0001 vs. ipl 1.12.0001, spl 1.13.0000 vs. 1.12.0000
- ugly skin for dialer in T-Mobile inspires fear. How was it possible to include such terrible dialer with such nicely looking phone? But this is corrected easy with replacement of skin for dialpad. Could be found on xda-developers or _ttp://zombienexus.net/portal/GH_ShowArticle.asp?HID=18&CATID=1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9|10
- x-button software in T-Mobile ROM, which wasn't in original Russian ROM. Very convenient to close applications and unload them from memory, without going to Memory-Running Programs.
- of course all additional software from original ext rom was gone, but don't think missing something. Did not manage yet to unlock ext rom "safely".
- ext roms are different of course, because they customize for each country or operator or seller.

It is a long discussion about wlan. Confirm that wlan is operational with this T-Mobile (UK) shipped ROM.
Could you tell me please, those who have a trouble with wlan. Do you have WLAN option in Comm Manager. Can you enable it? Please reflect your version of ROM and device.

thormdac:
Yes, I am sure. ;)
imei-check guys are right. You can not do upgrade with different version ROM unless you have CID unlock. florin_m provide some information above.

[thormdac]

thormdac:
Yes, I am sure. ;)
imei-check guys are right. You can not do upgrade with different version ROM unless you have CID unlock. florin_m provide some information above.

@fdp24

You stated earlier: I've installed T-Mobile (UK) on my HTC sold in Europe. According to imeicheck this is not possible. Or at least viceversa not possible. They claim only hero to hero, not artemis to hero.

Mine is cid unlocked, takes hero rom, but not htc rom! So, pls. share how you succeeded!

and, can someone explain how mtty works? enter bootloader, enter set32 0 gives blank screen.

[gladiac]

their answer:
End of the story: NO WLAN ON HERO !!!!!!

Sad... So sad... Those t-mobile guys are really nasty sometimes. Ok, who cares, wifi research has ended now!

[Paul Fraser]

fdp24, what is your phone (MDAIII?) and where did you get it? Do you know for sure that it is an Artemis rather than a Hero?
If so looks like Russia and Holland have got Artemis, Britain, Germany, Austria, Hero...

[thormdac]

sorry, sorry sorry,

as stated below!!!

[menkul]

just found this:

http://www.t-mobile.nl/zakelijk/media/download/BA_TMNL_14200_119_11300_Ship.exe

from:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285099

tmobile rom from the netherlands! If wlan exists, this software should activate it! Any body with unlocked cid, please experiment. Dont have time myself right now.

Hello,

this update is for MDA 3 (Blueangel) not for MDA Compact 3


Menkul
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[jonboy8841]

Can anyone out there unlock the t-mobile version so you can use the HTC rom. This device is useless from a data point of view without WI-FI

[mook]

Forgive me if this post is not in the right place, but since the UK version of the Mda Compact III does not have WiFi, is it worth it getting a contract with unlimited internet?

To make it easy to understand, what speed would I get (?mbps)?

I'd go for the O2 version, but I'm seriously considering T-mobile for the "unlimited internet", but will it be too slow on GPRS?

Mods, please move this post if there is already a similat thread somewhere else.

Thanks!!!

[moinkhulna]

Thanks Man Good Job Keep Up

[bibas]

Hi!
1.Sorry for my english.
2.I'm playing with my MDA Compact III to check is it possible to enable wi-fi in it
3.I've add some registry entries sended by rjs_artemis
4.Now I've got SDIO WLAN Wireless Adapter at Settings\Connections\Network Cards
5.I've also had wireless indicator on the title bar but it's gone
6.When I'm opening wlansettings.exe from windows directory I'm getting information that Wifi is off. When I'm trying to turn it on - nothing happened.
7.I've check rjs_artemis registry entries and I've found some files missing in My system:
83AE1E0F-F119-4111-8BA2-29258D2919D5
436EF144-B4FB-4863-A041-8F905A62C572
WIFIGUI.exe
WIFISVC.DLL

Is anyone can help Me to get them?

THX
Artemis 110 uk t-mobile

[mikealder]

Don't waste your time, the WiFi hardware is not fitted to your T-Mobile device, they removed the kit prior to releasing them - shame but with the Web-n-Walk bolt on I don't miss the WiFi on my C-III (Then again I could allways use my HTC Artemis that does have WiFi) - Mike

[bibas]

Cheers Mate - but I'm such kind of person which do not give up till I've check every possibilities :) even if someone had check it before :) Thanks anyway and greetings for You. Bibas

[mikealder]

In that case please feel free to look for the missing WiFi on the T-Mobile C-III after a few years messing around you might give up, take a hint don't bother there is nothing there inside the device to be found - anyone else any thoughts? - Mike

[cocochodps]

hello everyone. I'm sorry for my english

see this page!!!

http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679

, OMAP850 processor have a wlan chip including in the same

somebody can confirm this??

[mugglesquop]

hello everyone. I'm sorry for my english

see this page!!!

http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?templateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679

, OMAP850 processor have a wlan chip including in the same

somebody can confirm this??

oo interesting! i have a T-Mobile MDA CIII, which doesnt have WiFi, but if i got to Device Information, it does have the OMAP850... so does that mean it has the WiFi bit? or has the chip been modified to remove the WiFi part?

DAM YOU T-MOBILE!

[Samson711]

There have been people who openend the Device, and there is no WiFi Hardware in it... The Omap850 is the processor and its architecture supports WiFi, but just like in a Centrino Notebook (Which come along with WiFi) you can take out WiFi Hardware. So it was done on the T-Mobile MDA Compact III. At first everyone thought it would be Software disabled, then that the Antenna was missing, but after that people found out the proper Chip was simply not there... WLAN on (german) MDA-C III - never gonna happen ;) (And yep, i know, that the Dutch Version has it)

[mugglesquop]

There have been people who openend the Device, and there is no WiFi Hardware in it... The Omap850 is the processor and its architecture supports WiFi, but just like in a Centrino Notebook (Which come along with WiFi) you can take out WiFi Hardware. So it was done on the T-Mobile MDA Compact III. At first everyone thought it would be Software disabled, then that the Antenna was missing, but after that people found out the proper Chip was simply not there... WLAN on (german) MDA-C III - never gonna happen ;) (And yep, i know, that the Dutch Version has it)

same on UK MDA CIII's

[richuu]

So is there a space on the board to solder a chip..... ;)

[imranbashir_uk]

same on UK MDA CIII's

Sorry, do you mean that the UK version of the MDA III has no WiFi?

Does anyboady know if MDA CIV will also have wifi disabled?

[dontavo]

hy guys.... i had the same problem. i had a MDA compact III - no WiFi . I traded it for a P3300 (but bad case - lots of scratches and two cracks on the bottom).. . Now i'm gonna replace my case (hopefully i'll get it in 3-4 days). I'll make photos of the mainboard when i take it apart. i suggest that owners of MDA's do the same and compare the mainboards. what i can tell you for sure is that MDA doesn't have antenna. but if the chip really misses... i don't know. so let's find out :cool:

[cagueca]

The mda III is the same as arte 100 ?

I have one artemis and he have wifi .

[dontavo]

one is Arte 100 , the Other is Arte 110

[_THE_maxem_]

WiFI enabled Artemis:

settings-->device information-->Identity--> Model Number:

ARTE100

i see : ARTE110
Its a T-Mobile (D, Germany) Version i got 2 Days ago.
May it be possible to patsh or change the ROM to enable the W-Lan-Device?
Or is the hardware totaly different, so that the W-Lan-Chip (or what ever it is) may be not included and theres no way to enable it?
thank thee.

Max

[mikealder]

I fail to see why this thread still keeps going on and on some 20 months since the release of the crippled T-Mobile MDA Compact - III

Just face up to the facts guys it doesn't have WiFi full stop finish, it doesn't matter one jot which ROM you install it won't work - getting the soldering iron out to fix this "issue" just shows you have never opened up a PDA phone before.

There is no way to enable it as it doesn't exist - Mike

[_THE_maxem_]

I fail to see why this thread still keeps going on and on some 20 months since the release of the crippled T-Mobile MDA Compact - III

Just face up to the facts guys it doesn't have WiFi full stop finish, it doesn't matter one jot which ROM you install it won't work - getting the soldering iron out to fix this "issue" just shows you have never opened up a PDA phone before.

There is no way to enable it as it doesn't exist - Mike

OK, Ok, i got it.

Other Question - will i be able to burn any other Rom then like
black & blue (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364883) for example? I like the other outfits much.
Or to have WM6.1
Any way? I can still return the Phone and i think i return it....

thank thee

max
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