Activesync workoround via wlan / wifi sync

[saqer]

I'm rather surprised not to have seen third party support step up to fill in Activesync's worthless inability to sync over wifi or wlan. It would be very nice to revive this forgotten feature. Don't you people remember the uproar it caused when MS removed it?

Anyhow, I'm almost certain there's a work-around. Has anyone seen or heard anything in development?

Why revive this feature?

1. For the sheer convenience of not having to go through exchange servers or third party services especially when they may not be available to you

2. To sync user specific software that's otherwise not syncable OTA

3. Greater freedom share files over a wlan/wifi connection especially with these new and faster broadband networks (ev-do, etc)

4. Not to have to make special trips to your workstation just to sync..

[Airport1]

I've found a workaround - sorry it's in German - here:
http://www.mypocketpc.ch/Workshops/15899.aspx

But it seems that since ActiveSync 4.5 you need to configure a DOMAIN on the pocketPC, not only login and password.

Does anybody know how to set something like a "pseudo domain" or if the PC has a "default domain", if no domain is set?

I will try to translate the workaround now:

In earlier versions of ActiveSync WLAN Sync was possible (last known version 3.8), since version 4.x it was removed..

You can do a remote WLAN Sync as followed:

Start ActiveSync on the PocketPC. Go to Options > Server OR Configure Server [depends on your ActiveSync Version]

Enter the IP of the Windows PC. [if you don't know do: Start > Run > cmd > ipconfig /all ]
Enter Login and Password which are the same as on your Windows PC. [SSL I think should be deactivated]

IN v4.5 YOU HAVE A PROBLEM HERE: if you don't enter a DOMAIN, the configuration wizard doesn't continue :( IF YOU HAVE LOWER VERSION PLEASE TELL WHETHER YOU HAVE TO SPECIFY A DOMAIN

Click Next > Next > Finished.

Now you can MAYBE [see the DOMAIN problem] sync via WLAN again..

If anyone has an idea how to workaround the MUST-SPECIFY-A-DOMAIN problem please tell, I think I am not the only one who wants WLAN Sync back!

[zgi]

I think you need an exchange server for sync over wifi or gprs.

[Airport1]

NO and YES!

YES: Microsoft WANTS that you use an Exchange Server, therefore they have removed support for syncing via WLAN since v4.x

NO: The posted workaround doesn't need an Exchange Server running!! Instead you are "simulating" that you have one. Earlier this Workaround seem to have worked, but since ActiveSync v4.5 it seems you NEED to specify a DOMAIN of your PC.. maybe just another hurd only!

So, the problem again: since you need to specify a DOMAIN of your PC now, is there a possibility to workaround this? Maybe via Registry or setting up a "Pseudo Domain" ? This MUST-HAVE-SPECIFIED-A-DOMAIN seems now to be the only problem, unfortunately you cannot leave the domain field empty.. but the Handheld tries to connect the PC via WLAN (...WOW! Just one step away from the Solution!!?...), but that fails due the DOMAIN problem.. (most PC are only in a workgroup, and not in a domain..)

Maybe we are only one step away from a working solution!

[Houser]

I think only the wizard is changed by MS so that when no
domain is entered you cannot go forward.
ActiveSync can be configured with Configuration Service Provider (CSP)
through XML file.
Infos here: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa456215.aspx

I will try this tomorrow with a configuration without domain and let you know
if it works.

Houser

[Airport1]

You said it - the setup wizard seems to be the only hurd.

Hey, great idea. Where to find this config file?
I searched for it on PC and PPC, but found only binary files..
Hope you have success!

[Airport1]

Here are the maybe suitable Registry Settings for ActiveSync setup, I will try this way:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/En-US/library/aa457989.aspx

[Houser]

Here is a tool I have written to configure ActiveSync Settings
without ActiveSync wizard.
You can test it if you want.

Houser

[Airport1]

Thx. I launched your tool and entered IP + Login + Pass, activated e.g. Tasks to synchronize, and deactivated SSL, and clicked Save.

Then I launched ActiveSync on the PPC (Trinity HTC P3600).. now there comes a screen:

Microsoft Exchange:

Result: Your account information could not be detected. Choose configure Server on the ActiveSync menu to check your Exchange Server credentials.

Support Code is: 0x85002009

[Houser]

Hmmm maybe because the domain entry is left empty?
What happens if you enter some characters for the domain?

Houser

[Airport1]

If I enter a domain it tries longer to sync on the PPC - instead throwing at once the message above - the circling arrows animates for 3 seconds, then it ends ups with:

Waiting for network..

Hm, maybe the ActiveSync software on the PPC checks for the domain entry :( But.. maybe this check can be removed ;)

Where is the configuration saved? To a file (which one) or to registry (which branch)?

[Houser]

I do not know where the config is saved. In WM2003 it was in the registry
but in WM5 that was removed and stored in some internal database
I think.

Houser

[Airport1]

As you speak German, maybe this could be a workaround for the domain problem:

http://www.weyo.de/board/?n=320745&bn=21

I mean, maybe it's possible to enter a Pseudo Domain in the Registry on the PPC under
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\\\\Comm\\\\Tcpip\\\\Hosts\\\\

And entering this Pseudo Domain as Domain in the ActiveSync Setup..

But what to enter in the Registry? The branch is currently empty, so no example exists ;)

[Airport1]

Hm, here's how to enter the information:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q199370/

[Houser]

ActiveSync uses the domain only for authentication.
The server name (DNS name) or IP is used for the connection.
In the registry you can enter Host names with IP adresses
that has nothing to do with domain name.
ActiveSync uses HTTP oder HTTPS (TCP/IP port 80 or 443) when
you configure a server in ActiveSync.
ActiveSync on your deskstop PC does not listen on this TCP ports
so you cannot connect.

Houser

[Airport1]

Hm, any other idea? How crazy whatever.. ;)

[Houser]

Today not maybe tomorrow.

Houser

[freeyayo50]

ActiveSync uses the domain only for authentication.
The server name (DNS name) or IP is used for the connection.
In the registry you can enter Host names with IP adresses
that has nothing to do with domain name.
ActiveSync uses HTTP oder HTTPS (TCP/IP port 80 or 443) when
you configure a server in ActiveSync.
ActiveSync on your deskstop PC does not listen on this TCP ports
so you cannot connect.

Houser

So what you are saying is, that there is no way to sync over wifi unless you have an exchange server?

[Houser]

So what you are saying is, that there is no way to sync over wifi unless you have an exchange server?

Yes this is the only way I have done it so far.
But may be there is another solution out there to do this
with Outlook on your desktop but I currently do not know
how that can work.
I will do some tests today and let you know about the results.

Houser

[sopho]

A followed all the steps for my ipaq 9610 as well and get same (no) results.
Maybe anyone a new idea?

[castilio]

he this would be nice! is there a solustion yet?

[famewolf]

I'm rather surprised not to have seen third party support step up to fill in Activesync's worthless inability to sync over wifi or wlan. It would be very nice to revive this forgotten feature. Don't you people remember the uproar it caused when MS removed it?

Anyhow, I'm almost certain there's a work-around. Has anyone seen or heard anything in development?

Why revive this feature?

1. For the sheer convenience of not having to go through exchange servers or third party services especially when they may not be available to you

2. To sync user specific software that's otherwise not syncable OTA

3. Greater freedom share files over a wlan/wifi connection especially with these new and faster broadband networks (ev-do, etc)

4. Not to have to make special trips to your workstation just to sync..

Depending on what you are trying to sync you can look at http://finchsync.com which uses java to allow you to sync OTA to Mozilla ThunderBird and Sunbird for Calendar and Email.

[famewolf]

I think you need an exchange server for sync over wifi or gprs.

mail2web.com provides a free exchange server for push email and syncing.

[freeyayo50]

mail2web.com provides a free exchange server for push email and syncing.

Im only seeing paid solutions for exchange. Can you post the link to the free exchange account??

[famewolf]

Im only seeing paid solutions for exchange. Can you post the link to the free exchange account??

http://live.mail2web.com/

[uccoffee]

how about google sync for mobile :D new!

[phamtuanchip]

I've found a workaround - sorry it's in German - here:
http://www.mypocketpc.ch/Workshops/15899.aspx

But it seems that since ActiveSync 4.5 you need to configure a DOMAIN on the pocketPC, not only login and password.

Does anybody know how to set something like a "pseudo domain" or if the PC has a "default domain", if no domain is set?

I will try to translate the workaround now:

In earlier versions of ActiveSync WLAN Sync was possible (last known version 3.8), since version 4.x it was removed..

You can do a remote WLAN Sync as followed:
the answer here they said that why they REMOVE the sync via wifi and lan
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9e641c34-6f7f-404d-a04b-dc09f8141141&displaylang=en
Start ActiveSync on the PocketPC. Go to Options > Server OR Configure Server [depends on your ActiveSync Version]

Enter the IP of the Windows PC. [if you don't know do: Start > Run > cmd > ipconfig /all ]
Enter Login and Password which are the same as on your Windows PC. [SSL I think should be deactivated]

IN v4.5 YOU HAVE A PROBLEM HERE: if you don't enter a DOMAIN, the configuration wizard doesn't continue :( IF YOU HAVE LOWER VERSION PLEASE TELL WHETHER YOU HAVE TO SPECIFY A DOMAIN

Click Next > Next > Finished.

Now you can MAYBE [see the DOMAIN problem] sync via WLAN again..

If anyone has an idea how to workaround the MUST-SPECIFY-A-DOMAIN problem please tell, I think I am not the only one who wants WLAN Sync back!

so from active sync 4.5 you can't sync throw the wifi