got my 8525 today

[shogunmark]

well i got it today and its a very very nice phone.. looks great.. however i have noticed some quirks that makes me wish i didnt sell my 8125/wizard..
First thing that i can not stand.. is i am in the St. Louis area.. i get a U and data works, but its slow.. it seriously took me 7 minutes to get to the dslreports speed test page (and used both My Isp and MEdia Net connections). The other thing i have noticed is that i put on a screen protector... well it caused my screen to flip out and started doing all kinds of weird things, would open the start menu at random, etc. It also wouldnt allow me to touch/tick on the screen.. They keyboard layout is nice.. but if you are coming from a wizard the keyboard will screw you up, the layout is completely different...

[balld]

Hi, I was just wondering if you did in fact get an upgraded sim card. 3G version. I read somewhere on one of the posts that this makes a heck of a lot of difference in speeds. I requested one when I purchased my 8525 last week, and while I don't live in a UMTS/HSDPA area(at least not yet) I went ahead and updated anyway since I sometimes do travel to 3G areas. BTW, it was totally free? Anyway, as a WinMob 5 newbie, I was just wondering.

Also, as a side note: I have yet to purchase a screen protector, but I did purchase a monaco hard aluminum case. This thing rocks! Good luck with your issues.

[MikeChannon]

well i got it today and its a very very nice phone.. looks great.. however i have noticed some quirks that makes me wish i didnt sell my 8125/wizard..
First thing that i can not stand.. is i am in the St. Louis area.. i get a U and data works, but its slow.. it seriously took me 7 minutes to get to the dslreports speed test page (and used both My Isp and MEdia Net connections). The other thing i have noticed is that i put on a screen protector... well it caused my screen to flip out and started doing all kinds of weird things, would open the start menu at random, etc. It also wouldnt allow me to touch/tick on the screen.. They keyboard layout is nice.. but if you are coming from a wizard the keyboard will screw you up, the layout is completely different...


Not sure what the problem is with your data connection there. Where I am at present I only have regular GPRS (old old Sim) and page loads within around a second and test takes maybe 5 to 10 seconds with 50kb/s which without UMTS is fine.


Mike

[shogunmark]

the sim card thing is one thing i was wondering.. i got 2 phones today, my 8525 and a dumb sony ericsson for my wife.. mine came with a blue 3g card, same kind of card they have been giving out all year.. however her non 3G SE came with a white 3G card, its apparently new.. i wonder if i need one of these cards..

[balld]

the sim card thing is one thing i was wondering.. i got 2 phones today, my 8525 and a dumb sony ericsson for my wife.. mine came with a blue 3g card, same kind of card they have been giving out all year.. however her non 3G SE came with a white 3G card, its apparently new.. i wonder if i need one of these cards..

Well, my 3g card is primarily white(approx. 75%)with a blue top. Also has a flaming 3g icon on it. Hope that helps. I totally agree with the previous post, I only have GPRS here at home, and my pages load up very quickly. I'm quite impressed actually. Perhaps one of the senior members might have some input for you?

[shogunmark]

your sim sounds like the one my wife got, mine is still the old school blue one... sounds like i need to get a new sim then..

[J-Man5]

What AKU version is shipping on the 8525? I have been looking at upgrading my 8125 in for the 8525. Also did they offer any upgrade specials? (ie. what did it cost you to walk out of the store, $$$, contract extension, etc.)

Thanks,

J-Man5

[cjmedina]

go get a new sim card. my pages come up pretty fast and my speed test show an avgerage of 700k

[shogunmark]

go get a new sim card. my pages come up pretty fast and my speed test show an avgerage of 700k

i just went on my lunch/dinner break and got a new sim card.. my pages load faster than with my old sim.. however its still slower than my edge on my 8125.. i was just finally able to run a speedtest.. i got 10k

[shogunmark]

What AKU version is shipping on the 8525? I have been looking at upgrading my 8125 in for the 8525. Also did they offer any upgrade specials? (ie. what did it cost you to walk out of the store, $$$, contract extension, etc.)

Thanks,

J-Man5

it cost me 431.41, i ordered mine through the business number since i am an AT&T employee... also since i am an employee i got free overnight shipping, ordered mine friday around 7pm, got it today before 3pm... and i will give you the aku after i hard reset.. now my phone is locking up, wont even open the start menu.. something funky is going on.. however i tried the softkey combo's to hard reset and they will only bring up the bootloader
*edit* im an idiot.. i was reading L/R softkeys, but wasnt comprehending it.. i was hitting the buttons on the side.. im a freaking moron this evening

[shogunmark]

and FYI its AKU2.3... i have done a hard reset and still getting crap speeds.. this test was 45k

[TheCritic]

I'm getting much better speeds even on just GPRS (when the connection works, which is highly variable). Got over 200k on DSL reports in the (northern) Los Angeles area over the weekend. Have the shiny new 'flaming' white SIM.

So I'm not the only one surprised by how old the version of WM5 on the 8525 is? I thought it was supposed to be one of the first devices with AKU3+--with BT PAN instead of DUN and all that...?

[shogunmark]

so after my hard reset, i tried to get on the net.. wouldnt connect.. so i installed all my software that i normall install, rebooted the phone again (about the 20th time today) then noticed i connected pretty fast.. so i jumped on the net and ran a dslreports speed test and got 949k, i am finally impressed... i guess i will see what happens.. technically they never announced that 3g has been turned up yet... so maybe it was a network thing earlier.. but i will say the sim played a huge part of it cause it was more responsive after the sim

[balld]

so after my hard reset, i tried to get on the net.. wouldnt connect.. so i installed all my software that i normall install, rebooted the phone again (about the 20th time today) then noticed i connected pretty fast.. so i jumped on the net and ran a dslreports speed test and got 949k, i am finally impressed... i guess i will see what happens.. technically they never announced that 3g has been turned up yet... so maybe it was a network thing earlier.. but i will say the sim played a huge part of it cause it was more responsive after the sim


Well, I'm glad everything worked out for you. Now if you could just make a donation to my paypal account, all will be well! :) J/K

Seriously though, I was kind of surprised by your low/slow speeds prior to your resetting your device/software. So much so, that I decided to run my own tests. And what I found out was interesting to say the least. It appears that with the larger files that I download/test, my speed seems to increase. Is anyone else experiencing this with GPRS. While I ran out of time, my (I think it's the 1M) last test clocked in at 214K. So I am very happy for now, and look forward to visiting my parents in Texas where alot of the major metropolitan areas have UMTS. ie Dallas, Austin, Houston.

[pugnut]

I am in the DC area and was having major issues with the speed. I called customer support and they told me to change the settings to use the MediaNet connections and reboot. After that the thing flys---

[shogunmark]

i found a registry setting last night that will add the band's tab in the phone settings.. in the bands tab you can choose between UMTS and Edge... im glad i found this cause when my speeds are crap on UMTS i can fix it to edge and still use the net reliably... i will just have to deal with the ups and downs till the network here in st. louis is "officially" turned up.. if anyone is interested in this file i made a cab for it so you can just install it on your phone, here is a link to the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283797

[gravejoker]

I am in the DC area and was having major issues with the speed. I called customer support and they told me to change the settings to use the MediaNet connections and reboot. After that the thing flys---

What were you using earlier?

[shogunmark]

i have tried both media net and my isp.. sometimes my connection works, sometimes it dont.. but i think its just my market area

[lanwarrior]

Can anyone post the complete settings for using isp.cingular instead of wap.cingular?

I have the unlimited PDA Connect Plan, but I am using wap.cingular right now. I tried to switch to isp.cingular but then the 8525 will not connect.

My thought the settings are (CASE SENSITIVE):

Username: ISP@CINGULARGPRS.COM
Password: CINGULAR1
APN: isp.cingular