Show UMTS band in phone settings [Archive]

shogunmark

21st November 2006, 03:40 PM

geek78

21st November 2006, 03:46 PM

Just FYI I have yet this with the original HTC French Rom.

shogunmark

21st November 2006, 04:26 PM

i forgot to mention this reg hack came from my cingular 8525 but dont see why the other hermes would be any different

mcfadonna

22nd November 2006, 03:07 AM

i forgot to mention this reg hack came from my cingular 8525 but dont see why the other hermes would be any different

I know im a total Newb but i would lke to turn off the UMTS or find the switch to it. Living in Denver there is no UMTS yet so i would like to be able to turn it on or off. I was looking for it yesterday and couldnt find it. I have the 8525 also please help . thanks.

shogunmark

22nd November 2006, 06:29 AM

install this reg hack then you can fix your phone to GSM(edge) instead of wcdma

mcfadonna

22nd November 2006, 06:44 PM

install this reg hack then you can fix your phone to GSM(edge) instead of wcdma

Ok so i link my pc and the 8525 via usb or bluetooth. Load the file on the 8525 and run it? Is it able to run this and install without unlocking it? Im just trying to gather all the info i can before doing anything to it. I plan on unlocking it but still have a lot more reading to do. :D

shogunmark

22nd November 2006, 07:13 PM

yes just transfer it to your phone and click it, it will install the reg entry

cjmedina

23rd November 2006, 02:15 AM

works good thanks now i can stay on 3g when streaming instead of shifting to gsm

mbn

24th November 2006, 03:59 AM

I found this setting in the registry to show the UMTS band, it will also let you switch between UMTS and Edge.. now i have fully tested this yet since i live in a edge area and work in a umts area.. havent been to work yet today, but i made a cab for it, after installing this cab the menu is listed in settings/phone/ band tab

Will this edit allow me to manually go back and forth between Edge and UMTS?

Can you tell me the location of the key you edited?

shogunmark

24th November 2006, 04:12 AM

yes it will allow you to switch, the reg key is
HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting change the value from 0 to 1

mbn

24th November 2006, 02:10 PM

yes it will allow you to switch, the reg key is
HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting change the value from 0 to 1

Awesome. Thanks very much for your reply.

I now have 2 drop down menus in the band tab under settings.

Select your network type with 3 choices:
1) Auto
2) GSM
3) WCDMA (Does WCDMA=UMTS, or 3G?)

Select your GSM/UMTS band:
1) Auto
2) GSM (900+1800)+UMTS(2100)
3) GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
4) UMTS(2100+800)

I'm on Cingular so I'd like to know which GSM band to use when I want to specify for my phone to only use GSM.

This could potentially save a large amount of battery resources for me and others that don't need 3G unless we really need the blazing speed...

Also, do you have to soft reset for the settings to take effect?

shogunmark

24th November 2006, 04:21 PM

Awesome. Thanks very much for your reply. Forgive the noob question, but will I have to go into the registry to change back and forth, or will I be able to toggle UMTS/Edge from the today screen or a simple setting on the phone?

that reg hack will give you the Band option in the phone settings, in there you can toggle back and forth

mbn

24th November 2006, 04:28 PM

shogunmark

24th November 2006, 05:52 PM

I edited my previous post which you VERY quickly replied to. Thanks for the fast response.

lol anyway, im not sure, i havent actually used the feature yet... but the wcdma does = 3g, umts.. and i think cingular in the use is 900 1800.. but try them one by one till you hit the right one.. and you shouldnt have to soft reset

mbn

24th November 2006, 06:29 PM

Awesome. Thanks very much for your reply.

I now have 2 drop down menus in the band tab under settings.

Select your network type with 3 choices:
1) Auto
2) GSM
3) WCDMA (Does WCDMA=UMTS, or 3G?)

Select your GSM/UMTS band:
1) Auto
2) GSM (900+1800)+UMTS(2100)
3) GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
4) UMTS(2100+800)

I'm on Cingular so I'd like to know which GSM band to use when I want to specify for my phone to only use GSM.

This could potentially save a large amount of battery resources for me and others that don't need 3G unless we really need the blazing speed...

Also, do you have to soft reset for the settings to take effect?

Band setting that worked for me on Cingular is:
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)

I needed to stop all 'data calls' before it will allow the change so I went into memory under settings and stopped all programs that are data - for me it was Goodlink (called 'email' under the running programs). Then I put it into flight mode by clicking on the signal bar icon, waited a few seconds, and then turned flight mode off. That seemed to clear the data call. After turning off flight mode and waiting the 15 seconds before it will allow me to click on 'settings' in that dialog box, I made the switch to GSM.

To switch back to UMTS, I just repeated the steps.

This is a useful hack. Now I can test whether the poor battery life issue is Goodlink, or UMTS.

Thanks Shogun

mcfadonna

24th November 2006, 10:35 PM

Ok one more newb question! I unzipped it and it has two files. 0001 file and an html file. Do i load one of these and run it or do i load the hole zip file on to the 8525 and click it? Dont laugh its the first time i will load something on it. Thanks!

shogunmark

24th November 2006, 10:49 PM

there should only be 1 file in that zip, should only be a cab file... if there are more then disregard the others and only load the cab file...

rayzer1

25th November 2006, 12:55 PM

He did the same thing I did. When you unzip it, it says .cab file but winzip still shows the winzip icon on it and he unzipped it again. Just drag/copy the .cab file over only unzipping it one time!

shogunmark

25th November 2006, 10:09 PM

He did the same thing I did. When you unzip it, it says .cab file but winzip still shows the winzip icon on it and he unzipped it again. Just drag/copy the .cab file over only unzipping it one time!

oh ok, i thought i must have somehow added more files then i needed... thanks for clearing that up

conqoror

26th November 2006, 02:26 AM

Thanks for this hack, I wasn't getting 3g at all before at home, now that I set it manually it is showing up "U" on my phone and i'm gettting 1010mbp/s speeds on data!

paulclo

26th November 2006, 03:59 AM

I found this setting in the registry to show the UMTS band, it will also let you switch between UMTS and Edge.. now i have fully tested this yet since i live in a edge area and work in a umts area.. havent been to work yet today, but i made a cab for it, after installing this cab the menu is listed in settings/phone/ band tab

Another newboe here. I downloaded this file, unzipped it but it is not a .cab file. it is something 000 file type. The file name is SHOWUM~1.000 and the file type is an 000 file with 1 kb. Am I doing something wrong here?

Thanks.

shogunmark

26th November 2006, 05:07 AM

Another newboe here. I downloaded this file, unzipped it but it is not a .cab file. it is something 000 file type. The file name is SHOWUM~1.000 and the file type is an 000 file with 1 kb. Am I doing something wrong here?

Thanks.

try reading the other replies in this thread for your answer

paulclo

26th November 2006, 05:25 AM

try reading the other replies in this thread for your answer

Well, as I said, I am new - I ha rea through the last two pages of threads and unzipped the file many times but still got the same result before I asked.

Doesn't matter how many times I unzipped it, it still gives me the same unknown file of 000 file type. I don't get a .cab file like I would ormally get from other downloads.

Feel kind of helpless.

Thanks for your prompt response anyway and thank you for your time.

shogunmark

26th November 2006, 05:36 AM

paulclo

26th November 2006, 05:49 AM

you only need to unzip the downloaded file once, there is one file in there, even though its pulling a zip or rar icon, it does not need to be unzipped again, its a .cab file.. you drop the .cab file on your phone and tick it to install it...

Now, I have got it. Many thanks.

I guess I had been confused by the zip extension of the file even after it has been unzipped.

Thanks again for your lightning fast response. Much appreciated.

nutnbolt

26th November 2006, 06:10 AM

Hmm I tried this and when I try to switch to WCDMA, it brings up a pop up saying.

The data call exists, Please try again later.

Any suggestions as to what is going on?

shogunmark

26th November 2006, 06:19 AM

Band setting that worked for me on Cingular is:
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)

I needed to stop all 'data calls' before it will allow the change so I went into memory under settings and stopped all programs that are data - for me it was Goodlink (called 'email' under the running programs). Then I put it into flight mode by clicking on the signal bar icon, waited a few seconds, and then turned flight mode off. That seemed to clear the data call. After turning off flight mode and waiting the 15 seconds before it will allow me to click on 'settings' in that dialog box, I made the switch to GSM.

To switch back to UMTS, I just repeated the steps.

This is a useful hack. Now I can test whether the poor battery life issue is Goodlink, or UMTS.

Thanks Shogun

readme....

nutnbolt

26th November 2006, 06:57 AM

Yikes..I shut all data off but it was still happening. I had to disconnect by holding the Red Phone button for a few seconds till the little icon for connection g/u was gone.

That worked.

shogunmark

26th November 2006, 07:00 AM

i think when the phone is searching for a signal you get the same error about ending the data call..

mcfadonna

26th November 2006, 01:47 PM

Now, I have got it. Many thanks.

I guess I had been confused by the zip extension of the file even after it has been unzipped.

Thanks again for your lightning fast response. Much appreciated.

That threw me off too. But i got it. Hopefully with the new rule handed down about unlocking phones , I hope unlocked phones will be cheaper so we dont have to go though all this crap.

hyperbola

27th November 2006, 09:11 AM

Thanks for sharing. I shall try this at home tonight.

makd12321

27th November 2006, 05:10 PM

works good thanks now i can stay on 3g when streaming instead of shifting to gsm

I would like to do exactly the same thing as you (stay on 3g all the time for streaming.)
Is anyone able to force 3g in this board that is on UK T-Mobile with an MDA Vario II?

My options in Settings/Phone/Band are -

Network Type-
Auto
GSM

GSM/UMTS Band-
Auto
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)

Unless I'm missing something there doesn't appear to be any option to force 3g. I'm thinking maybe adding a registry key to include a 3g option would do the trick.

rsolomon

27th November 2006, 07:08 PM

I would like to do exactly the same thing as you (stay on 3g all the time for streaming.)
Is anyone able to force 3g in this board that is on UK T-Mobile with an MDA Vario II?

My options in Settings/Phone/Band are -

Network Type-
Auto
GSM

I'm guessing you need a special 3G SIM or 3G provisioning on your account to make it work then - have you ever see the "U" symbol instead of the "G" symbol? Even on the brain-dead Cingular network selection, this enables Auto/GSM/WCDMA so I wonder if you have a SIM/account issue not a phone issue?

Richard

shogunmark

27th November 2006, 08:10 PM

hmmm, i wonder if that is sim dependant... i might have to play around with that.. but wont be able to till at least tomorrow.. work today + concert later tonight = to tired when i get home lol

gx1

28th November 2006, 05:46 AM

Not sure if I'm doing it right, but after I changed the setting to GSM only, exit the program and come back, it is on "Auto". It's not saved to GSM only. Am I missing something? :confused: Thanks for your help.

****I figured it out**** Thanks****

jamiefiedler

28th November 2006, 07:46 PM

groggrog

6th December 2006, 01:27 PM

I've been trying to get the band tab to be viewable on my 8125. While it is now viewable, all the options are greyed out. Any idea how I can unlock them?

Thanks

shogunmark

7th December 2006, 04:19 AM

I've been trying to get the band tab to be viewable on my 8125. While it is now viewable, all the options are greyed out. Any idea how I can unlock them?

Thanks

i dont know if you are gonna have much luck on the 8125 with this reg hack... the 8125 is the wizard and is very different from the 8525 hermes

1oddmanout

19th December 2006, 12:07 PM

:confused: really a duh question; i downloaded the zip file. extracted a .cab file, now what do i do? sually, these things install via sync.

suniil

20th December 2006, 01:06 PM

Thanks OP for the patch, but UK T-Mobile Vario II already have that option enabled, but Networktype under phonesetting just displays only 2 options ie.Auto & GSM

Also bandtype has just 3 options
a. Auto
b. GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)
c. GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)

i just want to stay on UMTS, but vario II always tries to go back to GSM

any help much appreciated

T
sunil

I would like to do exactly the same thing as you (stay on 3g all the time for streaming.)
Is anyone able to force 3g in this board that is on UK T-Mobile with an MDA Vario II?

suniil

20th December 2006, 01:32 PM

Ok, not sure this is working or not. I've added 2 new keys to Networktype & bandtype with values (Dword) 3 and it does appears in my dropdown list.

UK Vario II users: i'll let you know in couple of days time how it goes

stormryder

20th December 2006, 06:16 PM

Just a comment, but this is already enabled in HTC TyTN ROMS.

S

shogunmark

20th December 2006, 07:12 PM

Just a comment, but this is already enabled in HTC TyTN ROMS.

S

correct, i believe one of the cingular cabs removes this function.. i know that if i hard reset and reset before the customizations that this feature is there

suniil

21st December 2006, 02:33 PM

works brilliantly!

now my Vario II doesn't switch to GSM/GPRS mode automatically / or on start. I'm always connected to 3G now.

UK Vario II users: i'll let you know in couple of days time how it goes

roverman

22nd December 2006, 04:31 PM

If there was a dotted line between the UMTS and GSM coverage I think it would go right over my desk at work. Needless to say, I am very thankful to come across this fix.
Question, the first couple times I tried it it worked flawlessly, now I am getting a notification that says "the data call exists, please try again later"
What's that mean, I exited all programs and am doing the same things?

Thanks,
(Brand new member, enjoying the site immensely)

shogunmark

22nd December 2006, 04:47 PM

when that happens just hold the end key for 5 seconds to disconnect the data call ;)

e61user

27th December 2006, 03:18 PM

It seems Cingular uses UMTS 1900 and E61 has 2100, will this allow me to change the UMTS band for E61?

Tks

shogunmark

27th December 2006, 03:42 PM

It seems Cingular uses UMTS 1900 and E61 has 2100, will this allow me to change the UMTS band for E61?

Tks
no, the nokia does not use a windows mobile OS, it uses a symbian os

dndmail

11th January 2007, 06:31 PM

I loaded the program into my Cingular 8525 and it added the band tab to my phone options. But when I select the GSM option, it keeps coming back with "The data call exists, please try again later". What am I doing wrong?

Never mind. I missed the last comment in this thread. Your solution worked for me (holding the exit key for 5 seconds). Thank you very much.

nutnbolt

11th January 2007, 06:43 PM

BryanPDavis

13th January 2007, 07:18 PM

Soooo "U" is better than "G"? I've gotten both to come up on mine.

so:
U = 3G
G = EDGE?

shogunmark

14th January 2007, 05:24 AM

Soooo "U" is better than "G"? I've gotten both to come up on mine.

so:
U = 3G
G = EDGE?

well better than would be a matter of opinion.. if your in an area where you get spotty U coverage then you might not think its better... But technically yes, its much better...

schwaitz

2nd February 2007, 12:37 PM

Folks, I need help. I´ve bought a Cingular 8525 and I can´t use it here in Brazil, the phone is not finding network, maybe is something about band settings,but I couldn´t find the settings.

How can I change the band from 850/1800 to 900/1900 ( Brazil settings ) ???

How I can entry to the register settings to examine it ?

schwaitz

2nd February 2007, 01:41 PM

yes it will allow you to switch, the reg key is
HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting change the value from 0 to 1

How can I find this key ? There is something similar as " regedit " ?????

schwaitz

2nd February 2007, 01:48 PM

How I use regedit in WM5 to find a specific key ??

shogunmark

2nd February 2007, 02:13 PM

if you simply install this cab i posted here it will show the UMTS band page and you can change the bands... no need to do anything to the registry

insanenyc

2nd February 2007, 07:14 PM

shogun I got a big prob with this cab I installed it and every time I try to acess the phone under settings my phone freezes 2 hard resets and I am having the same prob I need help bro

rsolomon

2nd February 2007, 09:52 PM

shogun I got a big prob with this cab I installed it and every time I try to acess the phone under settings my phone freezes 2 hard resets and I am having the same prob I need help bro

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we'd need your Phone make, model, and ROM version at the very least to help....

Richard

Koksie

3rd February 2007, 12:18 AM

Take a look at BandSwitch, there is a thread about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844
It makes switching very easy, no need to go through the registry or phone settings. You can set timed profiles as well and the developer is very responsive to requests and bug repair.

insanenyc

3rd February 2007, 12:34 AM

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we'd need your Phone make, model, and ROM version at the very least to help....

Richard

rom ver 1.34.502.1
date 9-21-06
radio 1.16.00.00
protocol 32.53.7018.01h
hermes100 cingular 8525

i just wanna undo what the cab did and hard reset didnt work so it looks like i got to edit registry

rsolomon

3rd February 2007, 12:44 AM

i just wanna undo what the cab did and hard reset didnt work so it looks like i got to edit registry

Hard Reset absolutely DOES undo registry changes - it'll basically reformat your phone. I suspect you mean a simple soft reset via the button?

Search for PHM regedit or any other of the wiki-recommended registry editors and install that. FWIW, I manually made the change on my 8525 and it works. I didn't use the .cab.

Richard

insanenyc

3rd February 2007, 12:56 AM

Hard Reset absolutely DOES undo registry changes - it'll basically reformat your phone. I suspect you mean a simple soft reset via the button?

Search for PHM regedit or any other of the wiki-recommended registry editors and install that. FWIW, I manually made the change on my 8525 and it works. I didn't use the .cab.

Richard

richard thanks for the help can u tell me what to edit in the reg
should i reflash?
and i HARD reset 2 times (clear storage does not make a diffrence my reg is messed up)

i just hard reset using the 2 soft keys lets see if this works

nope wtf i am gonna reflash with same rom

shogun where u at?

ok DO NOT INSTALL THIS TO YOUR STORAGE CARD!!!!
i reflashed and now my 8525 is back to normal i didnt have to reflash i just had to delete all items on storage card. i am ok now thanks for the help

schwaitz

3rd February 2007, 01:50 AM

if you simply install this cab i posted here it will show the UMTS band page and you can change the bands... no need to do anything to the registry

Hi . I have installed your cab file, then the band tab appears. When I try to change to 900 // 1800 ( Brazil ) and click at Ok, a message appears " warning :Unable to change GSM /UMTS Band,please check later".
I´m using the 8525
Help me please !!!!!!!

lilmikcali

6th February 2007, 09:06 PM

Shogun (I'm with Cingular too btw)...

I was having the dropped call problem when the phone switched back and forth between the G and U. About 75% of all my calls, ingoing and outgoing, this would happen too. I live in Los Angeles, so I figured the competing towers were wreaking havoc.

Quick question... I've selected WCDMA as a network because I get full bars all over the place, I guess I'm just confused when then selecting the GSM/UMTS band, which selection to use: Auto, GSM900/UMTS, GSM1900/UMTS, or UMTS. If I'm selecting only the 3g network to use, wouldn't I only select then the UMTS band? Are there benefits to selecting one of the other?

Thanks in advance... You've saved my relationship with my new gf, she kept thinking I was hanging up on her and/or being shady. Not to mention how frustrating it is to drop calls left and right.

:)

eaf

25th February 2007, 05:12 PM

I was going into the Cingular store to return this 8525 but after spending much time on this site I managed to find enough info to hack/upgrade untill I have a pretty nice functioning device.
My biggest problem was that it would set in 3G and never change, no call, no text nothing. (FYI: I have the same firmware specs as wpbear thanks to all the upgrades) The last thing I did was to apply the reg hack at the beginning of this post and was able to lock into edge and now it works beautifully!

So, I am not going to return it as it is my belief that in time Cingular's high speed coverage will get increasingly better and I will be able to put the handset back to auto. :rolleyes:

I am a computer engineer/programmer and I love what I do but I have to say that the last 2 days have not been fun, however without the outstanding help and assistance of the members I could not have accomplished this. :D

I must admit this is by far the best tech site it has been my pleasure to be associated with and certainly deserves my donation. I hope others donate as well so this site continues to operate.

Thanks again for all the help and information!!!

Ed

Impossible

2nd March 2007, 10:24 PM

While on the hunt to change my U icon to a 3g icon, I came across a reg hack that showed the three states of connection eg

gsm (G)
utms (3g)
hpsda (H)

I have had a look around the forums and I cant find the reg key, any one else seen it and remind me what it is?

Imp

ncdave

18th July 2007, 04:21 AM

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we'd need your Phone make, model, and ROM version at the very least to help....

Richard

I'm having the same problem as another user, but have not seen a solution in the forums.

I edited the registry to change showUMTSbandpage to 1. Whenever I went to Settings > Phone, the phone hangs.

I soft-reset and changed the registry back to 0. And soft reset again.
Hang problem is still there every time I try to access Settings > Phone.

8525 upgraded to AT&T ROM
ROM 2.15.502.3
Radio 1.40.30.00
WM5 OS 5.1.478 (Build 15706.3.5.2)

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

- Dave

rsolomon

18th July 2007, 03:30 PM

Whenever I went to Settings > Phone, the phone hangs.

Are you running PTTfix? If so make sure you're running the latest - this hang was reported with earlier PTTfix versions on the 2.15 AT&T ROM - completely independent of the UMTS setting.

Richard

ncdave

18th July 2007, 11:37 PM

Are you running PTTfix? If so make sure you're running the latest - this hang was reported with earlier PTTfix versions on the 2.15 AT&T ROM - completely independent of the UMTS setting.

Richard

THANK YOU. I missed this little tidbit, and just thought I had mucked things up with my registry edit. The new PTTFix makes the world right again. :-)

- Dave

rsolomon

18th July 2007, 11:53 PM

THANK YOU. I missed this little tidbit, and just thought I had mucked things up with my registry edit. The new PTTFix makes the world right again. :-)

You're welcome! Glad that worked.

Richard

simcell

10th September 2007, 07:26 AM

WOW I cant begin to thank you enogh I have been using my 8525 for over a month all was great till they installed a 3g tower in the neighboring town so I was picking up 1 bar of 3g before full edge which in turn was dropping calls and everything i was also hearing screaching sounds when the phone tried changing over to edge I was in contact with the higer ups at ATT but to no avail they said it was my phone got it replaced and had same issues! Before this all happened i recomended it to a freind of mine and he was happy till this started happing but now i can just stay on edge!!! just to note 3g was working fine in other eareas of the country i traveled from lakeood nj to toronto canada without a problem so its not my phone!!!
Please if anyone has had similar problems please pm me so i can have att contact you to try and get to the bottem of this so i can use 3g again! or ill just wait for the new HPs they look good!

banditione

27th September 2007, 07:08 AM

I have a question. I know that when we switch bands, we get G for GPRS and 3G for UTDMA. When it is set to auto, if there is an area where there is no 3G, I get E that is faster then G. Can we have the ability to change the bands so I not just get the lower conection of G but get E? Thanks.

afumicello

21st November 2007, 04:18 AM

I have the 8525 and the dropped calls are driving me insane. It took me 15 tries to get through to a friend this afternoon!

I really want to download this hack... but it doesn't seem to want to let me. Says that I might not have permission? What does that mean and how do I fix it!?!?

THANKS!

Nevermind! Solved the issue on my own... I'm not really sure why it works now, but it works! So, thanks anyway! I'm am so excited about this fix, I can't wait to try it out tomorrow... I'd call some one to test it, but its 1 in the morning and they'd probably kill me...

fjumayao

3rd April 2008, 08:55 AM

I found this site by accident but this "show UMTS band" hack has saved my sanity. After upgrading to WM6 on my HTC 8525, my signal strength seems to be lower than before and I seem to be dropping more calls. Now I understand. With the "band" option on my phone settings I just set it to GSM and get great performance since I don't always use the 3G speed. I don't have 10 euros and was going to donate 5 but as soon as I have some to spare I will definitely be back. Thanks for sharing your great ideas, intelligence and solutions with the rest of us!!! You guys are just plain GREAT! :)