READ BEFORE POSTING: How to tell if you have a G4 or G3 device & how to CID-unlock it

[_Nomad_]

The only visible difference between a G3 and a G4 device is when you soft reset your device and looking at the IPL and SPL version numbers that occur during startup.

G3 DEVICE: IPL/SPL: 1.XX or 2.XX or 2.XX.00X (only two zeros)
G4 DEVICE: IPL/SPL: 2.XX.000X(three zeros)

Note, X is representing a number.

So, how do you go about to CID-unlock your device? First, do you really have to? Well, in one word YES!, in order to install most of the custom-made ROMs from this site you have to have a device that is CID-unlocked...

If you have a G3 device the solution is pretty straightforward. just look here... (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116)

If you have a G4 device you have to go to imei-check.co.uk and pay £20 in order to get it unlocked. But you can help develop a solution that doen't require you to pay for it. Have a look at this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284312) thread.

NOTE: There are several posts that mention this subject, some claim that using the imei-check.co.uk method will not CID-unlock your device but only unlock the SIM. THIS IS NOT CORRECT! Your G4 device will be unlocked after this procedure.

Finally, never, ever, flash your G4 device with a ROM that is intended for a G3 device, make sure that is either made for G4 or doesn't contain a bootloader. If you for some reason you do, you'll have damaged (bricked) your Wizard permanently...

[blazoner]

Moderators - PLEASE STICKY THIS POST! -before it gets lost!

Thanks! :)

[banannq]

Ok, i know how to tell one from another, but what exactly is the difference? is it some technology breakthrough or what?

[_Nomad_]

Ok, i know how to tell one from another, but what exactly is the difference? is it some technology breakthrough or what?

As far as I know the brand of the chipset is the only thing that's different. It's also been speculated in that due to the newer bootloader present in the G4's they have updated security measures when upgrading...

[Alpa]

Hello,
You know if this unlock work for French FAI, specialy "Ten Téléphonie".
Many thanks, soon...

[SanderZ]

ipl 2.18.0001
spl 2.18.0001

G3 or G4

[_Nomad_]

Are you kidding me?!! I clearly states in my first post that if your ipl/spl is 2.XX.0001 it's a G4!!!

[SanderZ]

Yes but it is also possible to have a g3 with 2.xx.001.
So it's a bit confusing.

Anyway how do i determin wich update utility to use?

[fla242]

look at the number of 0 :D

[_Nomad_]

Ok ok... updated my first post to make it clearer;)

[SanderZ]

alright checked!
Thank you:)

[blitzgod]

i know i have a g4 . how do i get plugins to work must i unlock. all i want is to monitor my cpu, battery, memory and such not real get in to the registry in deep stuff.but i cant seem to get anything done. so if anyone has a good link for plugin for today screen to see battery, cpu usage, and memory. are just some great apps i could use please help

[blitzgod]

and how do i get themes, and can you uppdate your flashplayer on a mda to watch videos on youtube?

[vippie]

and how do i get themes, and can you uppdate your flashplayer on a mda to watch videos on youtube?

You can find all you're answers here (http://www.google.com)!

[vimafeje]

You can find all you're answers here (http://www.google.com)!

good answer!!!!! really!!!!!


how to see videos on youtube?....... what program/drivers do i have to instal? this is the question!

[ValkyrieLenneth]

Mine even has 4 zeros (2.06.0000)... i think it is a G4 also -.-

[villaheca]

Ok, sue me if this has been asked before....I could not find it anywhere. On my Wizard the RED Vodafone splash screen covers the IPL/SPL versions on start-up. Anyway to find out in some other way whether it's a G3 or G4?

[gsmsmile]

Finally, never, ever, flash your G4 device with a ROM that is intended for a G3 device, make sure that is either made for G4 or doesn't contain a bootloader. If you for some reason you do, you'll have damaged (bricked) your Wizard permanently...[/QUOTE]

How to know which ROM is intended for G3 or G4 device ?

[doejohn]

I tried to flash my Cingular 8125 with the latest ROM not realizing that I had a G4 device. Now all I see is the RBG screen and I don't know a way out.

I will appreciate any help to bring my 8125 back to normal.

Thx

[doejohn]

Finally found the rom which can work with the G4 device. I think my phone is CID locked but still it worked. The ROM was 'Wizard love '.

It good to have my phone working now !

Thank you guys!

[theoutzu]

What about mine? I have IPL 1.01, SPL1.01.0000? I think it's a G3, isn't it?

[tallin32]

Is there, at all, *ANY*other way to get the IPL/SPL version numbers? As I have no eyesight, and as the software that actually lets me use any Windows Mobile device doesn't kick in until its entry is hit in the registry, splash screen isn't really an option.
Also, how is itpossible to determine if the ROM you're installing either contains a bootloader or is made for G4, should I be one of the "lucky" ones that has a G4 device?

[nevfree]

ipl/spl: 1.05....what is it?

[radiotrib]

I have (had) a wizard from Vodafone NL. The IPL/SPL were obscured by the red screen, and I couldn't find them on the device. What did I do?? .. I read all the posts on all the topics, in the Wizard forum until I found the answer.

If you can't be bothered to do that, and you don't already know the answer, you might not want to try anything as dangerous as flashing your toy. You could well be the next in a long line of posters asking "How do I get my brick to act like the phone it was?". I'm pretty certain that the experts on this site stopped throwing their arms up in despair after the first hundred or so of those posts.

If you're still determined to risk your XDA, and you can't be bothered looking, then start the XDA up in bootloader mode, and there it is - the IPL/SPL in white letters on an RGB "rainbow". However, I will not, and cannot, tell you how to get OUT OF boot loader mode afterwards, because I've never tried to get BACK from there, only FORWARDS, by installing a new ROM ... If you STILL want to risk it it's up to you... To enter boot loader mode, Hold "Camera" while short pressing the "reset" button

Since I came to this forum as a total noob, months ago, I've flashed a new ROM on my locked G4 device, upgraded my radio, overclocked it, and found out a whole pot full of nice things (see the sig). Being a noob - the first thing I did was to read everything on the forum, and in many cases cases re-read it until I fully understood it. I did all that BEFORE I attempted to do something as utterly foolish as to turn a perfectly good Wizard into an expensive, silver brick.

Apologies to the experienced members, but I think you know what I'm driving at.

[radiotrib]

ipl/spl: 1.05....what is it?
Did you even bother to read the thread? The first post has the answer.

[pumpedpittbull]

ipl and spl say only in red on boot 2.26 with no numbers after.......

So is it g4 or g3?????

[pumpedpittbull]

ipl and spl say only in red on boot 2.26 with no numbers after.......

So is it g4 or g3?????

[pumpedpittbull]

ipl and spl say only in red on boot 2.26 with no numbers after.......

So is it g4 or g3?????

[ANTC]

you guys should add you can flash roms with shelltool now if you got a G4

[moosiegirl]

I have (had) a wizard from Vodafone NL. The IPL/SPL were obscured by the red screen, and I couldn't find them on the device. What did I do?? .. I read all the posts on all the topics, in the Wizard forum until I found the answer.

If you can't be bothered to do that, and you don't already know the answer, you might not want to try anything as dangerous as flashing your toy ...

Apologies to the experienced members, but I think you know what I'm driving at.

YOU SAID IT! And very well, I might add. :D

I've had my Wizard for nearly a week, and I haven't unlocked it because I am not yet absolutely certain of the steps AND the consequences. My quest to learn has been hampered by these folks who think they want to save a buck, but also think they should be handed a solution as if they were in line for ice cream in the fourth grade! :mad: There is no such thing as a stupid question, but there IS such a thing as a "spoiled and impatient" question! So, Spoiled and Impatient, get outta my way! You're extending the learning curve. :p

TFYT,
Candy

[rohinsadh]

has any one found the solution to unlock G4 Wizard ?

R.

[stoof]

don't think so , been reading for a couple days now :'( i'm looking forward to the day cid unlocking G4 wizard becomes reality without having to pay 28 euros :p

[cmgarcia]

you guys should add you can flash roms with shelltool now if you got a G4

I'm surprised I haven't seen this talked about more in this thread. If I'm not mistaken, this is the alternative to paying to CID unlock G4 devices. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[pronto]

mine only says for both ipl, and spl 2.25
no zeros at all

[xxgoldie]

Folks,
I offered a friend to SIM unlock his Wizard because it was so easy with mine.

So, brave as I am, I read the Wiki and noticed that G3 & G4 thing, that I have to go through imei-check.co.uk, as I had a G3 one and my friend now has a G4 one :-(

However, running through all the treads and the Wiki, I found this thread:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=265928

So the phone was IPL/SPL 2.21.0001 and what I've understood a G4, right ?

No idea, if this is old news for some of you, as I used lokiwiz03a, it gaves me the unlock code, I changed the SIM-Card and ***tada*** the SIM Lock was removed.

Just in case, you need more info, drop me an PM.
Regards
Chris

[TryOG]

Yes but it is also possible to have a g3 with 2.xx.001.
So it's a bit confusing.

Anyway how do i determin wich update utility to use?

what a moron...

[Madcap180]

Folks,
I offered a friend to SIM unlock his Wizard because it was so easy with mine.

So, brave as I am, I read the Wiki and noticed that G3 & G4 thing, that I have to go through imei-check.co.uk, as I had a G3 one and my friend now has a G4 one :-(

However, running through all the treads and the Wiki, I found this thread:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=265928

So the phone was IPL/SPL 2.21.0001 and what I've understood a G4, right ?

No idea, if this is old news for some of you, as I used lokiwiz03a, it gaves me the unlock code, I changed the SIM-Card and ***tada*** the SIM Lock was removed.

Just in case, you need more info, drop me an PM.
Regards
Chris

SIM unlock and CID unlock, 2 different things.. to unlock a G4 device as of now I beleive you have to pay for it through IMEI-check.com .. cost me about 38 bucks to do it.. but it saved me 100's by not bricking my device.. ;)

[halder]

i read all the subject and i am not dull but mine is like following
ipl 1.03
spl 1.03.0000
in the first one ipl the last digit is not zero so it should be g4 .but its only 2 number
in spl it seem to be g4
so what is it people plz help cuz i will flash it today

[patfee]

Is it possible to check if your device is cid unlocked?

mine say
lpl & spl 2.18.0001
gsm 02.07.10
os 2.18.7.6

for some reason, the radio thing is not there

Thanks
Patrick

[ali_game]

IPL 2.17.0001
SPL 2.17.0001
OS 2.26.10.2
Gsm 02.25.11
i have flashed usin wizard_love and its a G4 cid unlocked
I wanna know to to upgrade WM6 rom???

[dharvey4651]

If you have a G4 device you have to go to imei-check.co.uk and pay £20 in order to get it unlocked. But you can help develop a solution that doen't require you to pay for it. Have a look at this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284312) thread.

HAHA not anymore.....

[wolvarine]

ipl and spl say only in red on boot 2.26 with no numbers after.......

So is it g4 or g3?????

I'm new, but 2.XX (2.26) should be a G3, according to the first post...

[Abel2007]

nothing sorry

[drew454u]

I'm new, but 2.XX (2.26) should be a G3, according to the first post...

Is this true i thought it had to have zeroes after it??

[fairmang]

I bought this unlocked phone from Tigerdirect.ca. I want to CID unlock it, but I wanted to know if it's a G3 or a G4 device:

IPL 3:08
IPL 3:08
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.26.10.2

What device is it?

Thanks in advance.

[wolvarine]

Is this true i thought it had to have zeroes after it??

this is exactly what the first post said...

"G3 DEVICE: IPL/SPL: 1.XX or 2.XX or 2.XX.00X (only two zeros)
G4 DEVICE: IPL/SPL: 2.XX.000X(three zeros)"

I had to read it a second time to really understand, but, if there are no zeros (like mine, 2.26), then it's a G3, if there are zeros, you have to count them and that will tell you if it's a G3 or G4...

at least that's how I understood it...

[jamesw85]

Im sorry if im a little late but does anyone know where i can find the software to upgrade to WM6 for the Cingular 8125 Wizard G3?

[scarymoviesg]

mine is

IPL 1.00
SPL 2.15.0000

the IPL matches the G3 but SPL matches the G4? So wat device is it? am i dumb?

[lilg_06]

Mine is the similar to scarymoviesg, can someone let me know what device this is suppose to be, a little confusing.
IPL:1.00
SPL:2.20.0000

[Zaharaa]

Im Canfuse i dont know which version i have can you please help me!
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 02.25 11


Whats that mean? G3 Or 4?:(

[Falker01]

Zaharaa its a G3


if it has more than two digits then its a G4:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[texasaggie1]

Zaharaa its a G3


if it has more than two digits then its a G4:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Not Right! If it has more than two digits OF ZEROS after the last period, its a G4.

[jgdorado]

My phone appears to match the G4 with exception of an SPL - 1.xx.000x
here's what it says in the multi-colored screen
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.56.0000
CPLD-8
The 4 zero's make it sound like a g4 but the first digit being a 1 doesn't. I just ran the HArd-SPL for G4 which auto detects for G4 and it passed

FYI - So the 1st digit doesn't have to be a 2.xx.000x it can be a 1.xx.000x

[epu]

i'm using O2 xda atom (rom:20060426B1WWE)..there is no IPL/SPL number after startup..so i hope somebody would tell me that my wizard is G3 or G4?thanx..:)

[zabardast_1]

i'm using O2 xda atom (rom:20060426B1WWE)..there is no IPL/SPL number after startup..so i hope somebody would tell me that my wizard is G3 or G4?thanx..:)
Atom is not a Wizard,you are in the wrong forum,get your answers in the Atom forum,ok
Cheers!

[kurry25]

I've read the above posting, but I'm a little confused still
my phones spl is 2.26.0001 and the IPL is 2.26.0001

it's says here that "If you have 2.26 as your IPL and SPL then you have a G3 Wizard"
But here is says "G3s only have 2 zeros" mine has three
So do I have a G3 or a G4 :(
Thanks

[zabardast_1]

I've read the above posting, but I'm a little confused still
my phones spl is 2.26.0001 and the IPL is 2.26.0001

it's says here that "If you have 2.26 as your IPL and SPL then you have a G3 Wizard"
But here is says "G3s only have 2 zeros" mine has three
So do I have a G3 or a G4 :(
Thanks
It sure is a G4 phone :)

[cushcalc]

My phone appears to match the G4 with exception of an SPL - 1.xx.000x
here's what it says in the multi-colored screen
KAIS1*0
SPL-1.56.0000
CPLD-8
The 4 zero's make it sound like a g4 but the first digit being a 1 doesn't. I just ran the HArd-SPL for G4 which auto detects for G4 and it passed

FYI - So the 1st digit doesn't have to be a 2.xx.000x it can be a 1.xx.000x

It looks like you have a Kaiser, not a Wizard - is it an AT&T Tilt? or an HTC Tytn II? If you have a Wizard, it would be HTC P4300 / Qtek 9100 / Qtek A9100 / Dopod 838 / i-mate K-JAM / T-Mobile MDA Vario / O2 Xda Mini Pro / O2 Xda Mini S / Orange SPV M600 / Orange SPV M3000 / Cingular 8125 / Vodafone VPA Compact II.

If your device isn't one of these, you are in the wrong forum.

[beetleman]

I have IPL and SPL 3.08, what is my device? G3 or G4?
It is T-Mobile MDA Vario.

Thank you

[zabardast_1]

I have IPL and SPL 3.08, what is my device? G3 or G4?
It is T-Mobile MDA Vario.

Thank you
Perhaps you didn't read and understand it correctly. Your phone is x.xx (3.08) and not x.xx.xxx1 (3.08.0001) got my point ?
Well,YUP ! you got a G3 device :D

[pepeng_kalywete]

help guys, actually its for my friend, hers is 2.25.11.1
its a wizard/qtek9100/cingular 8125, so what version does she have?

[zabardast_1]

help guys, actually its for my friend, hers is 2.25.11.1
its a wizard/qtek9100/cingular 8125, so what version does she have?
DOC Chip version G3,its a G3 phone :)
G4 has trailing .0001 at the end.

[madan26]

O2 XDA Mini S
IPL : 3.08
SPL : 3.08

Please let me know wether my phone is G3 or G4