How good (or bad) is the Trinity

[zen123]

OK I see that some of you already got the device. My wife wants to replace her Nokia N80 for the white version. Now I previously had an Orange SPV M3100 (HTC Hermes) & had no end of problems with that sold it & now happily using an Asus P525. So how about the the Trinity.

-Is it stable?
-Does A2DP & AVCRP work properly as in having proper stereo output?
-Does the A2DP reconnect automatically to WMP after receiving a call (the -Hermes never did, had to restart everything).
-How's wifi reception (the Hermes was crap). She uses wifi a lot as we have 250mins free BTOpenzone minutes a month.
-I looked at the HTC website but it seems they do not supply firmware upgrade support for their devices. So where can you get them officially?

Fill me in guys. Thanks

[neofix]

Is it stable?
I don't feel it's very stable when coming to the phone part. If I've used the device for a while, I often have to hard-reboot it for the phone part to work again(it just stands "calling", and nothing happends)

-How's wifi reception (the Hermes was crap). She uses wifi a lot as we have 250mins free BTOpenzone minutes a month.
The WiFI reception on my phone is very good. I've actually managed to connect to hot-spots which my laptop didn't manage to connect... :p *me like* :)

-I looked at the HTC website but it seems they do not supply firmware upgrade support for their devices. So where can you get them officially?
In Norway you get the official firmware updates/rom from the local distributor.(Dangaard and Brightpoint)

[Phoenix2000]

What about other features, like those related to the cameras?
How is visiophony with the front camera?
How is the picture quality of the back camera? Most of the reviews are made with good light conditions. What about the pictures in low light condition?
Movies? Are they correct?
Battery life with that 400 MHz processor compared to Prophet?

Could anyone post pictures/movies made with Trinity?

[zen123]

The wifes P3600 arrived this morning. Been playing with it all for a while & here's my 1st impressions.

Good
Looks nice & shiny
Small size
Excellent loud clear external speaker
Nice & responsive
Phone reception & general operation is fine
3G works well

Bad
Shiny surface = fingerprint magnet
MS bluetooth stack, better than before but still lacking
A2DP implementation. Not real stereo, only mono out from each channel
Also when disconnectd from WMP it doesn't auto reconnect.

In summary if you used previous HTC devices before then you'll be familiar with this one. When used as a pda & phone it does most things as expected, the menus & general operation are same as before.
But its going back, one of the main reasons being the crap A2DP. Wifey uses music player a lot on her 1 hour daily commute & the fact that sound quality is rubbish (low volume & no stereo) & no option to connect a wired headphones as theres no headphone jack. The same problem as the Hermes in that once disconnected from WMP it doesn't auto reconnect. Have to go into Bluetooth manger to re establish the connection.

Also comparing it to my Asus P525 other than the smaller size, 3G, louder external speaker & looks a bit nicer, in all other depts the Asus is as good & some areas much much better.

[neofix]

Well, my opinion is that the camera sucks... :P Was on a party this weekend _with_ good lighting, all the picutures came out blurry *argh* (could be it was too much light tough?...)

The videotelephony-part on the other hands is quite good(for videotelephone, NOT for taking still-pictures).

And I also don't like the 2-7 sec. delay when you try to call someone... *argh*

[Matterhorn]

Well, my opinion is that the camera sucks... :P Was on a party this weekend _with_ good lighting, all the picutures came out blurry *argh* (could be it was too much light tough?...)

The videotelephony-part on the other hands is quite good(for videotelephone, NOT for taking still-pictures).

And I also don't like the 2-7 sec. delay when you try to call someone... *argh*
2 to 7 second delay? It sounds like a ROM upgrade will probably be coming to fix these issues...same story different cover.

[anonimo]

A2DP implementation. Not real stereo, only mono out from each channel


This sounds new to me. I am using a SonyEricsson stereo BT thingy with my Qtek S200 (with A2DP hack) and as far as I can hear the output is stereo not mono from each channel.

[DaveUK]

I love mine compared to my Exec! Quicker and sleeker.

And got my 4GB miniSD this morning and it works fine :)

[zen123]

This sounds new to me. I am using a SonyEricsson stereo BT thingy with my Qtek S200 (with A2DP hack) and as far as I can hear the output is stereo not mono from each channel.

Yes, proper stereo could be possible with a registry hack but how many end users are to know that? Only the hardcore users frequent forums such as this & get to learn a lot about their devices. Assuming it can be done then why didn't HTC enable it in the first place? Mention a registry hack to the vast majority of users out there & I'm pretty sure you'll be met with a lot of blank expressions & ??????

With the aesthetic design of the trinity I think HTC are trying to market it to more mainstream audience, thats why my wife likes the look of it, but in all honesty how many of these new users will know how to exploit the device to the full. My wife never visits these forums & even her 8 month old Nokia N80 is still out of the box stock.

[anonimo]

Yes, proper stereo could be possible with a registry hack but how many end users are to know that?

I thought the registry hack was only to enable A2DP on those devices where the manufacturer had disabled it and the end result of a hacked S200 would be the same of a standard TyTn or a standard P3600... Are you sure the P3600 output is not stereo?

[zen123]

I thought the registry hack was only to enable A2DP on those devices where the manufacturer had disabled it and the end result of a hacked S200 would be the same of a standard TyTn or a standard P3600... Are you sure the P3600 output is not stereo?

Pretty sure its not stereo, either that or the stereo separation is really poor because it sounded like mon to me. In saying that though when I paired my iTech R35 stereo bluetooth clip with it there was the option to tick headset mode & stereo mode but its too late now I've sent it back today.

[capzicco]

The only dislike on my new P3600 is the position of penon the bottom! . I've used many pda, and the pen was on top! But for the rest I love it!!!!

[anonimo]

Pretty sure its not stereo, either that or the stereo separation is really poor because it sounded like mon to me. In saying that though when I paired my iTech R35 stereo bluetooth clip with it there was the option to tick headset mode & stereo mode but its too late now I've sent it back today.

You are right the stereo bluetooth output is not stereo. This is ridiculous. I hope this can be fixed with some registry hacking otherwise HTC has really screwed this device big time. :mad:

[neofix]

One more thing, the smooth black coating is comming of from the bottom where the stylus is placed.... That's s REAL bad thing, since this will eventually tear up more and more of the coating... And I've only had it for two weeks :(

[SecureGSM]

default A2DP registry settings for Trinity is:
UseJointStereo = 1

please change to:

UseJointStereo = 0

that will fix the "mono sound" issue.

[firstime911]

So far what i read, the software for this phone 3600 is not fully stable,

Camera still delay..
Some bugs

additional question following,

Delay of standard programs opening?

How about the sounds quality (loudness and clearness) is it very good?

which one is really better if compare 3600 and 3300(GPS enabled), which should i buy... -_-"

Thank you in advance..

[saminegm]

Got my Trinity since yesterday. I had several phones and pda before (Dell Axim x51v was the last one) but the Trinity is the best until now. small enough, fast enough... if I only could get MMS to work for vodafone germany...

[Lucas0511]

Got my Trinity since yesterday. I had several phones and pda before (Dell Axim x51v was the last one) but the Trinity is the best until now. small enough, fast enough... if I only could get MMS to work for vodafone germany...

Did you try these (manual entry and cab for Vodafone):
https://shop.dangaard.de/files/Qtek/Qtek.htm

Tytn and Trinity 3G/UMTS should be the same

[GeorgeR]

So far...the trinity is my new favorite thing..very stable (have had to soft reset twice to get the Wifi signal running after a sync while wifi was on) and lots of fun. Phone is great and signal with one bar or less is still usable - where my old motorola was no good with a weak signal...and i can now make and take calls from my office - where previously there was no chance with the motorola. This device does everything I bought it for -combine my PDA and phone into one device...

[v1zca1n0]

I love mine compared to my Exec! Quicker and sleeker.

And got my 4GB miniSD this morning and it works fine :)

Can you please said where did you buy the miniSD? Thanks