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mobilecat
15th December 2006, 01:54 PM
I have done a search but can't really find much on the camera settings. I am struggling to get good photos using the MDA Vario 2. I used to get great ones with my MDA III.

Can anyone advise me on which settings will get me a half decent photo. I am not a camera buff and just want to use it generally a bit more not that my digital camera has died. I just cant seem to get it right?

thanks

madnutter
16th December 2006, 12:19 AM
Same here - with my Vadafone - picture quality was better on my Nokia 6600 mobile - is there a better application out there that take better qulity photos for the device?

danieletroiano
16th December 2006, 12:25 AM
Try CoolCamera 1.15b

sutheep
16th December 2006, 04:48 PM
What? Hermes camera is alright!! Here check out my pictures, i took them all w/ the hermes. http://flickr.com/photos/sutheep

If you like it leave a comment :)

MikeChannon
16th December 2006, 05:26 PM
What? Hermes camera is alright!! Here check out my pictures, i took them all w/ the hermes. http://flickr.com/photos/sutheep

If you like it leave a comment :)

I agree with you. Good pictures are possible. Some folks like to tweak the brightness and contrast, although I find the base settings ok. But I wouldn't try taking good photos in dark/semi dark conditions - it's not good. The Macro along with flash works ok at night for really close up stuff but the flash is of little use for distance pitures at night.

In good light it's really pretty good at 1 and 2 megapixel setting. Keep in mind the pictures at this definition also appear much better when transferred to your PC. I can get a full 17 inch screen size with little or no pixelation at 2 megapixels and also clearer and brighter than it appears on the Hermes screen.

Mike

Guest69
16th December 2006, 05:26 PM
@mobilecat
I'm really disappointed with the tytn's camera - i have an Orange M3100 version.
Try changing the sharpness and contrast settings both to 1.
It seems to be a fault that they are factory set at +7 and +6, ruining your chance of getting a good photo. Much better set as 1, especially the sharpness as it will otherwise draw a bold line around the detail. Unfortunately a restart resets to default.
Not sure about the T-Mobile version but the Orange version also will not take pics on the 2M superfine settings in most light conditions, you either get a blank pic or the camera app crashes and needs a restart.
I do love the tytn, just disappointed with the camera app, I have to mess about more with this than I do with my Canon SLR!
I'm not saying this is the case with all tytns, but the 3 I have had and the 2 others I have handled (all orange spv M3100) all suffer from the same issues.

MikeChannon
16th December 2006, 05:29 PM
@mobilecat
I'm really disappointed with the tytn's camera - i have an Orange M3100 version.
Try changing the sharpness and contrast settings both to 1.
It seems to be a fault that they are factory set at +7 and +6, ruining your chance of getting a good photo. Much better set as 1, but a restart resets to crappy default.
Not sure about the T-Mobile version but the Orange version also will not take pics on the 2M superfine settings in most light conditions, you either get a blank pic or the camera app crashes and needs a restart.
I do love the tytn but very disappointed with the camera app, I have to mess about more with this than I do with my Canon SLR!


I agree it's annoying it loses the tweaked settings you enter. BUT have you seen Sutheeps examples using his link - they're great!!
As good as a friends off the shelf 8Meg camera!!
Mike

Guest69
16th December 2006, 06:10 PM
Hi, I just downloaded the CoolCamera app, pushed the settings to max and snapped away; no crashes, no blank pics. Can't test this properly until daylight but this does look hopeful.
Agreed, Mike, I do admit that I have got a handful of very decent pics but I generally stopped using the camera as many more crashes and I'm sure I would have ended up throwing the tytn at the subject!
Fingers crossed, this coolcamera might be the end of the only gripe I have. I'm sure the problem is something to do with the Orange software.

MikeChannon
16th December 2006, 06:13 PM
Hi, I just downloaded the CoolCamera app, pushed the settings to max and snapped away; no crashes, no blank pics. Can't test this properly until daylight but this does look hopeful.
Agreed, Mike, I do admit that I have got a handful of very decent pics but I generally stopped using the camera as many more crashes and I'm sure I would have ended up throwing the tytn at the subject!
Fingers crossed, this coolcamera might be the end of the only gripe I have. I'm sure the problem is something to do with the Orange software.

Hope it works well and the subjects are safe!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

Mike

Guest69
16th December 2006, 06:20 PM
Agreed again: Sutheep, those pics are great, did you have it on fine or superfine?

spastico
27th February 2007, 05:02 PM
Hi, I just downloaded the CoolCamera app, pushed the settings to max and snapped away; no crashes, no blank pics. Can't test this properly until daylight but this does look hopeful.
Agreed, Mike, I do admit that I have got a handful of very decent pics but I generally stopped using the camera as many more crashes and I'm sure I would have ended up throwing the tytn at the subject!
Fingers crossed, this coolcamera might be the end of the only gripe I have. I'm sure the problem is something to do with the Orange software.

How's it been working out for you?

losborn
28th February 2007, 07:17 AM
Anybody know where to find CoolCamera? www.ateksoft.com (http://www.ateksoft.com) isn't a good url now.

Guest69
28th February 2007, 10:18 AM
@berdinkerdickle
as an update,
I'm still more than happy with the results using CoolCamera, I do occasionally get crossover on my images: the edge of a pic has a thin border on one side of the previous image. I do rarely get blank images when set to maximum quality. The interface, IMO can be a little complicated but once used to it, I like the extended settings options. The standard app on the m3100, for me, is not worth turning on: constant crashes and blank pics every time it's used. I know this is probably a fault with the Orange firmware, or maybe just my handset but the previous 2 units were the same.
I have had some fabulous, impressive results from using coolcamera in half-decent lighting conditions, without it I simply would not use the camera.
I know others are getting good results from the built-in app, which is why I feel it's an Orange firmware issue, but if you're having trouble getting decent results yourself, even after turning the default sharpness and contrast settings down (again and again - reboot resets to silly default), give coolcamera a try.
here's a zip of about 10 recent pics http://www.sendspace.com/file/3ox7rv
If you want to know what settings I use, give me a shout.

@losborn
http://www.ateksoft.com/ seems to be working fine for me

sanquar
7th April 2007, 02:49 AM
With regard to coolcamera / hermes camera I have a few questions..

1. Does it hold settings after soft reboot usiong coolcamera software?

2. what is the frame rate on the maximum video out of the main camera?

3. is there any white balance or apperture settings in this model?

I've just ordered a Jas Jam and am curious more than anything. I had no intention of using the camera until I saw a few of these shots.


cheers,

gauravdc
8th April 2007, 05:51 PM
What? Hermes camera is alright!! Here check out my pictures, i took them all w/ the hermes. http://flickr.com/photos/sutheep

If you like it leave a comment :)

Hey man...great photos!!!
What settings did you use on the hermes cam app?

Thanks,
G

chymmylt
8th April 2007, 07:25 PM
Have you tried the newer Camera application? It works well imho and people have reported that settings stick on it (though to be honest, I've not noticed either way).

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301629

simon_darley
9th April 2007, 12:55 AM
i believe settings stick on any ROM above 2.x, ie 3.x and wm6.

i have always had issues when lighting is less than perfect, ie to bright or to dark.

but in the main, it works overall well. if i want exotic brilliant photos, use a real camera is the theme.

i also use the webcamera function at ateksoft, which is handy. have the cool camera app, but not really tested or used.


i suppose the moral of the story is, if you drive a road and trail motorbike, dont expect to perform as a road bike or a trail bike, when you buy hybrids you get the jack of all trades master of none scenario, same applies to all sorts on the HTC phones, not a good phone, not a good calendar, not a good computer, not a good camera, not a good music player, but capable of doing all of them to mediocrity.

taguapire
9th April 2007, 01:19 AM
Try CoolCamera 1.15b

I did some test and I did get the same quality pictures from CoolCamera and HTC Camera. There is no big deal with use other software.

Regards,

Taguapire.

chymmylt
9th April 2007, 02:29 AM
i believe settings stick on any ROM above 2.x, ie 3.x and wm6.

i have always had issues when lighting is less than perfect, ie to bright or to dark.

but in the main, it works overall well. if i want exotic brilliant photos, use a real camera is the theme.

i also use the webcamera function at ateksoft, which is handy. have the cool camera app, but not really tested or used.


i suppose the moral of the story is, if you drive a road and trail motorbike, dont expect to perform as a road bike or a trail bike, when you buy hybrids you get the jack of all trades master of none scenario, same applies to all sorts on the HTC phones, not a good phone, not a good calendar, not a good computer, not a good camera, not a good music player, but capable of doing all of them to mediocrity.

Maybe so but I think for a phone it does the calendar/camera/music/running add on programs better then most other phones. As a phone, it's not the best but to be able to go out, not bring a phone, PPC, mp3 player, cheap pocket sized point and shoot camera - it's great! Plus I think my only issue with it as a phone is it's bulk. Call quality for me is pretty darned good. It's the best reception of any phone I've ever had in my house. It's my fav phone I've had since my Motorola StarTac :)

mrvanx
9th April 2007, 03:07 AM
Maybe so but I think for a phone it does the calendar/camera/music/running add on programs better then most other phones. As a phone, it's not the best but to be able to go out, not bring a phone, PPC, mp3 player, cheap pocket sized point and shoot camera - it's great! Plus I think my only issue with it as a phone is it's bulk. Call quality for me is pretty darned good. It's the best reception of any phone I've ever had in my house. It's my fav phone I've had since my Motorola StarTac :)

Oh the StarTac, what a phone!!! :D The best phone i had (before this) was my Nokia 7110 (http://www.nokia.co.uk/A4222012).

chymmylt
9th April 2007, 03:30 AM
Oh the StarTac, what a phone!!! :D The best phone i had (before this) was my Nokia 7110 (http://www.nokia.co.uk/A4222012).

I still had AND used as my main phone my startac until october of last year :) I've had a dozen phones at the same time from work but boy - none of them were as good as that phone that I had and used for nearly 10 years!