Fieldtest Manual

[austin_boy]

Cellid is coming soon ina new release

Enjoy and Merry Xmas

[pof]

Thanks so much for that austin_boy!!! :D :D

[dan1431]

Thanks!!!

Dan

[Lurker0]

Cellid is coming soon ina new releaseIt would be useful f it'd show CellIDs for neighbour towers as well!

[austin_boy]

it will show the cell ids in the next release

[Pawlisko]

Austin_Boy - GOOD JOB

I am T-Mobile user in USA and there is some discripences in user manual and real values.

Item 36 and 37 in User Manual (RLC: Uplink coding Scheme and RLC: Downlink coding Scheme) I have read-outs like this

0 - CS1 - same
8 - MCS4 - different - supposed to be MCS5
9 - MCS5 - different - supposed to be MCS6
12 - MCS8 - different - supposed to be MCS9

This is in EDGE network in NYC area. I use FieldTest_157.

May you check it out? Thank you.

[tr4657]

Austin_Boy - GOOD JOB

I am T-Mobile user in USA and there is some discripences in user manual and real values.

Item 36 and 37 in User Manual (RLC: Uplink coding Scheme and RLC: Downlink coding Scheme) I have read-outs like this

0 - CS1 - same
8 - MCS4 - different - supposed to be MCS5
9 - MCS5 - different - supposed to be MCS6
12 - MCS8 - different - supposed to be MCS9

This is in EDGE network in NYC area. I use FieldTest_157.

May you check it out? Thank you.

Can we monitor the handover process via this field test? If yes, what's the parameter for WCDMA and GSM? Pof, thank you very much for the SuperCID thingy...

[Pawlisko]

tr4657 - What do you mean handover in WCDMA? It does not work this way.

In CDMA as long as WCDMA you may might be served by few NodeB's. In FieldTest in WCDMA group you have field Num3GServing which will tell you how many NodeB are serving you. From 1 to 3 at the same time. Items 154-157. Item 146 shows if handset are communicating with NodeB.

In GSM you will be able to see handover when Cell-ID field will be introduced. But only on the time of handover.

Hope that answer you question

[tr4657]

tr4657 - What do you mean handover in WCDMA? It does not work this way.

In CDMA as long as WCDMA you may might be served by few NodeB's. In FieldTest in WCDMA group you have field Num3GServing which will tell you how many NodeB are serving you. From 1 to 3 at the same time. Items 154-157. Item 146 shows if handset are communicating with NodeB.

In GSM you will be able to see handover when Cell-ID field will be introduced. But only on the time of handover.

Hope that answer you question

OK. Half of my question was answered. Thanks. But I was searching for handover timing and occurences when travelling from point A to point B... I guess I need Nokia Net Monitor to do it.... Huhuhuhi... Sad...

[Pawlisko]

tr4657 - In Nokia Net Monitor you mean Display 41 and 42? If yes - you have to speak with austin_boy thou I think it is not possible that way.

Field test is live program, and you probably need that program to be resident to constantly monitor network parameters and save them.

Nokia NetMon is good, thou to beter monitor networks you need commercial programs, PCMCIA card and laptop to save your findings. Problem with software because it is very expensive (ca. 10k USD).

CDMA and WCDMA work in very different way than GSM. GSM is constant checking due to its nature (TDMA - uses Time, Slots in Cells, Coverage is fixed, only connected to one Slot in BTS, than handoff[handover] to different Slot etc). CDMA is very different (CDMA - uses Code, Cells does not have Slots, Coverage is changing due to workload) that is why it is event driven.

Back to your question - you need better software, for most of us Field_Test is enough - Nokia NetMon is good but also not good enough. If you need more - 10k USD and professional software will give you everything. Almost everything - you need somebody in NMC to cooperate with you for all data.

[tr4657]

Thanks for the info. By saying I need a special program; does the program then needs it's own monitoring hardware? I sometimes came across several sites offering the specific hardware to measure all the parameters of Cellular Network including UMTS/CDMA... BTW, what is the name of the software?

[Pawlisko]

tr4657 - I do not have answer for you about software name. I have it somewhere in my private newsgrups but will take time to find it.

I know that there is special software installed in SonyEricsson's, Nokia's and Motorola's handset. This software is very rare, part of selled network infrastructure. Other software is PC based. Usualy you have to have PCMCIA card with special drivers, which allows direct hardware monitoring.

Never heard of software for PPC thou probably it is developed.

[gunrum44]

Can anyone think of a way to log the data from field test at regular intervals eg for mapping reception of an area?

[ace10]

I have installed this app on my Hermes device. Looks to be working largely OK, but No Cell ID in the AMR section. Any idea ??:confused:

[ace10]

Next question - will the application work on any other devices (namely the HTC Artemis). Many Thanks:)

[vijovame]

I have installed this app on my Hermes device. Looks to be working largely OK, but No Cell ID in the AMR section. Any idea ??:confused:

You need to pick up 2g signal, if your signal is 3g AMR will not work. Force 2g in band selection.

[vijovame]

Next question - will the application work on any other devices (namely the HTC Artemis). Many Thanks:)Is for hermes only.

[ace10]

You need to pick up 2g signal, if your signal is 3g AMR will not work. Force 2g in band selection.

I definately have no 3G signal here - but cell id field was missing from that section..

[gunrum44]

I'm trying to create a program similar to fieldtest for network diagnostics and troubleshooting for customers on the NextG network which uses 850MHz HSDPA technology. The program must read signal strength and local/neighbouring cell id and then log the data along with some gps info. I'm using an imate jasjam. I guess that the values given in field test are accessed via the RIL? It would be nice to get a copy of the source code for this program so I could see what is happening...

[vijovame]

I'm trying to create a program similar to fieldtest for network diagnostics and troubleshooting for customers on the NextG network which uses 850MHz HSDPA technology. The program must read signal strength and local/neighbouring cell id and then log the data along with some gps info. I'm using an imate jasjam. I guess that the values given in field test are accessed via the RIL? It would be nice to get a copy of the source code for this program so I could see what is happening...
Will be great. Where is NextG?

[gunrum44]

Will be great. Where is NextG?

NextG is in Australia :)

[vpe]

Is any way to change EFR to HR etc? (on Hermes)

On Nokia phones is this magic codes:
*3370# – EFR (Enhanced Full Rate)
#3370# – deactivate EFR
*4720# – HR (Half Rate)
#4720# – deactivate HR

[austin_boy]

not to my knowledge

[falex]

Hi austin boy,

any news about a new release with the cellID ?

I've seen that in the 3G the cellID is named LCID. Could you retrieve this information ?

Chears.

[kkravari]

Is Someone Going To Fix In Amr Group 2g Cell Id????

[davw]

Me also waiting for a release where Cell ID is visible .....

[Lurker0]

Did I miss the update? Still I'm able only to find the version 1.57, from TyTN early ROMs.

[frank8080]

Can this program locked to a channel no. or scrambling code ?

[SIMbian]

Cellid is coming soon ina new release

Enjoy and Merry Xmas

So did this program ever get produced and is it available?
Thanks

[jhon_78]

Has the Cell ID been fixed already? And can anyone help me log the information to a file? Or send me the source code maybe? I really need the GSM info for research and I can't afford to buy a new PDA phone for it! Thanks in advance for any help...

Cheers!

[austin_boy]

Unfortunately cell id is still missing. I you needed badly you can get it from any other phone ( Nokia etc.)

[frank8080]

I like the FieldTest program, but it's too much info. for me. I just want to the Channel No., SC and the RSCP/Rxlev.
Can any one post some source code like that ?

[harishkun]

The magic code told by Austin Boy *#*#364#*#*, where to enter that?

Also, can we open an RIL port programmatically to get the similar data as received by FieldTest_157.exe.

I want to store that data in a file, is that possible somehow?

Thanks

[forzx]

i also have the same with question with harishkun .And how to open the RIL port (COM6) to get the diagnost data form Qualcomm chip?

[wisniak]

Hi,

I have an AT&T Tilt with the latest official ROM.

Inside my house I have very bad reception.

Our network is GSM.

Is there an explanationof the parameters themselves, and the expected values for GSM?

and specifically, is there anything I can do to improve reception?

I should mention that I had the same issues wit hthe previous official ROM.

Here are the values I have at the moment:


ARFcN - 607
LAC - 21221
RAC - 04
MNC/MCC - 42502
RSSI - 11
NCELL INFO1 - 592-104 DBM
NCELL INFO2 - 589-105 DBM
NCELL INFO3 - 603-105 DBM
NCELL INFO4 - 0-0
NCELL INFO5 - 0-0
NCELL INFO6 - 0-0
RX QUALITY - 99
FREQUENCY HOPPING - NOT ACTIVE
LAST REGISTERED NETWORK - 42502
TMSI - 928aff94
PERIODIC LOCATION UPDATE VALUE - 60MIN
BAND 1CS
CHANNEL IN USE - 255 (UNKNOWN)
RSSI 1 - -104DBM

I must mention that several of these values change without my moving around the house (eg ARFCN is at the moment 592, RSSI is 14, and the CNELL INFO values change as well).


Thank you.

[zephxiii]

Hi,

I have an AT&T Tilt with the latest official ROM.

Inside my house I have very bad reception.

Our network is GSM.

Is there an explanationof the parameters themselves, and the expected values for GSM?

and specifically, is there anything I can do to improve reception?

I should mention that I had the same issues wit hthe previous official ROM.

Here are the values I have at the moment:


ARFcN - 607
LAC - 21221
RAC - 04
MNC/MCC - 42502
RSSI - 11
NCELL INFO1 - 592-104 DBM
NCELL INFO2 - 589-105 DBM
NCELL INFO3 - 603-105 DBM
NCELL INFO4 - 0-0
NCELL INFO5 - 0-0
NCELL INFO6 - 0-0
RX QUALITY - 99
FREQUENCY HOPPING - NOT ACTIVE
LAST REGISTERED NETWORK - 42502
TMSI - 928aff94
PERIODIC LOCATION UPDATE VALUE - 60MIN
BAND 1CS
CHANNEL IN USE - 255 (UNKNOWN)
RSSI 1 - -104DBM

I must mention that several of these values change without my moving around the house (eg ARFCN is at the moment 592, RSSI is 14, and the CNELL INFO values change as well).


Thank you.

Its just that the signal is weak in your house, either buy a repeater system, or hook up an external antenna to the phone.

Best bet is to just get a repeater system :)

[wisniak]

Thank you.

[fowler214]

I love the app, just wish it ran on a TMO wing, I am integrating Nokia 3g Flexi in WI right now and would rather use my wing than the provided LG CU500. Awesome work, FyI it will load on the wing but it will not pull any info off of the cell,

[sur.]

harishkun,
did you know where need to put magic code *#*#364#*#*

[imanol001]

Greet work austin_boy!!

At the moment I'm doing research about UMTS and I need to know what exactly means BLER Status. If I refresh the log file every second, the CRC rece changes little, I guess that in a window of 200 transport blocks, making a flood ping to the mobile, this number should be larger and should change every second.

It has something to do with confirmed/uncorfirmed transport blocks inside the window?

"3G BLER Status: Num Tr Chan: 3 "
"3G BLER Status: Win Size: 200 "
"3G BLER Status: Tr Ch id: 33 "
"3G BLER Status: CRC rece: **"
"3G BLER Status: CRC error: **"

Thanks a lot!