View Full Version : Let's clean up the Wizard Upgrading Forum.
kyphur
18th December 2006, 04:14 PM
Guys,
As everyone who has read more than 3 posts here knows the Wizard Forums have become quite the mess lately
To help fix this situation, the Admins and Moderators have wisely decided to add a few Moderators seeking members who are active in the various threads.
I was honored to be one of the Wizard Members selected for this task.
Now I need your help. This forum is a community effort, it should reflect the needs and wishes of the community. That is where you come in.
I've already made Faria's "CID Unlocking for AKU 2.x Roms" Thread STICKY. Hopefully this will make it easier for newbie and veterans alike to find.
Please submit suggestions for other useful threads whose content should be made sticky.
I would like to eventually get this type of content added to the WIKI and then replace the stickies with a single closed thread that has links to the various sections of the new Wiza-Wiki.
Also, I know that we have a few members working on getting the Wiza-Wiki in shape, let's get behind them and support their efforts.
faria
18th December 2006, 04:39 PM
Guys,
As everyone who has read more than 3 posts here knows the Wizard Forums have become quite the mess lately
To help fix this situation, the Admins and Moderators have wisely decided to add a few Moderators seeking members who are active in the various threads.
I was honored to be one of the Wizard Members selected for this task.
Now I need your help. This forum is a community effort, it should reflect the needs and wishes of the community. That is where you come in.
I've already made Faria's "CID Unlocking for AKU 2.x Roms" Thread STICKY. Hopefully this will make it easier for newbie and veterans alike to find.
Please submit suggestions for other useful threads whose content should be made sticky.
I would like to eventually get this type of content added to the WIKI and then replace the stickies with a single closed thread that has links to the various sections of the new Wiza-Wiki.
Also, I know that we have a few members working on getting the Wiza-Wiki in shape, let's get behind them and support their efforts.
i have allredy updated wiki several times,i wish some others did.
congrats in the promotion.eheh
edit;
dam ..im one now...ehe
_Nomad_
18th December 2006, 04:44 PM
congrats to the promotion! Wish you the best of luck in this monstrous task:D... And you can count me in to assist in any way I can;)
funman
18th December 2006, 06:56 PM
Well if you need any help let me know!!! I am here every day.
wizzzard
18th December 2006, 07:44 PM
Good luck with this massive job.
I think a link to this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=221545) should be included as a sticky.
Dr Puttingham
18th December 2006, 07:56 PM
Good luck with this massive job.
I think a link to this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=221545) should be included as a sticky.We're already up to 6 stickies, may more and the posts will start on page 2 ....
jimmymotek
18th December 2006, 07:56 PM
Good Luck it's great for the forum...
I'm sure it's gonna be a very nice place to be in..
Good luck to us all.
_Nomad_
18th December 2006, 08:06 PM
We're already up to 6 stickies, may more and the posts will start on page 2 ....
Why not simply gather up all the threads a newbie would need in order to SIM/CID-unlock, upgrade, etc into one sticky post and call it something like "all you need to know to upgrade your wizard"... Might help to clear up some confusion
kyphur
18th December 2006, 08:19 PM
Why not simply gather up all the threads a newbie would need in order to SIM/CID-unlock, upgrade, etc into one sticky post and call it something like "all you need to know to upgrade your wizard"... Might help to clear up some confusion
Perfect idea, let's get the threads collected. Then we can compile the info into a concise thread and close it so it doesn't become useless.
_Nomad_
18th December 2006, 08:41 PM
My suggestions:
1. The wiki - of course:D
2. Everything that's already sticky
3. changing splashscreens (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284006)
4. faria's ext-rom guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=269583)
5. One of the "wizard wont start" threads (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=277275&highlight=battery+volt) - even though it's not really an upgrade issue it's seems to be a fairly reoccuring question.
I'm sure the list will grow but this was what I found after a quick runthrough.
Other than that one might also want to mention the meaning of WWE and the fact that you can change the language by changing rom etc
Pehaps also the fact that the standard user profile is set to only display threads 1 month old...
Basically just include every question ever asked by anyone who's ever had a problem:D
PDAtor
18th December 2006, 08:50 PM
My 2 cents... Let's not make mess in one separate thread cause it would be hard to find the answers in it. Let newcomers see what they are looking for reading the thread header. I suggest to collect threads worth to be sticky in separate subforum say Wizard FAQ where users can't write, just read. Reviewing the FAQ time to time move some threads into Wiza-Wiki.
And if one of those n00b threads would appear in any of Wizard forum we could send newcomers to FAQ first (say by PM) and then send a message to mods to close or kill the thread.
So the structure of the Wizard forum could be:
Wizard FAQ
Wizard
Wizard upgrading
Wizard accessories etc.
G4
Vilem
18th December 2006, 09:27 PM
I think, to stop some of the annoying threads, it would be wise to stop the uploading and/or posting password protected ROM's and have the whole forum commenting, guessing........ it's childish and could be handled by PM's or E-mails.
Yes, I'm jealous........ but it is not helping the forum.
How about this one:
* I have developed I great new ROM, which is unbelievable, should I release it or not ?*
Is also not helping.
Kyphur, I think you will be a great mod, but don't just look at the n00bs.
Also, too many Stickies is improving, try using folders in stead.
Dr Puttingham
19th December 2006, 01:42 AM
I think, to stop some of the annoying threads, it would be wise to stop the uploading and/or posting password protected ROM's and have the whole forum commenting, guessing........ it's childish and could be handled by PM's or E-mails.
Yes, I'm jealous........ but it is not helping the forum.
How about this one:
* I have developed I great new ROM, which is unbelievable, should I release it or not ?*
Is also not helping.
Kyphur, I think you will be a great mod, but don't just look at the n00bs.
Also, too many Stickies is improving, try using folders in stead.It's NOT childish! Right now Jose is dealing only with me and it's better that way. I've uncovered a couple of bugs that we can fix before it hits the streets. Not quite ready for prime time, sorry. What's childish is the people that can't make a working ROM work because of themselves.
And be very careful of what you're jealous of. I've hard reset 2 phones today at least 10 times each, not counting going back and forth between two version of Jose's latest ROM on those two phones. We're talking 4 hours, maybe 5... and we're still working on it.
Vilem
19th December 2006, 07:06 AM
It's NOT childish! Right now Jose is dealing only with me and it's better that way. I've uncovered a couple of bugs that we can fix before it hits the streets. Not quite ready for prime time, sorry. What's childish is the people that can't make a working ROM work because of themselves.
And be very careful of what you're jealous of. I've hard reset 2 phones today at least 10 times each, not counting going back and forth between two version of Jose's latest ROM on those two phones. We're talking 4 hours, maybe 5... and we're still working on it.
Dr.P. I respect the work Jose, Molski and the others are doing, but that was not my point. My point was as you said "Right now Jose is dealing only with me and it's better that way.".
Dr Puttingham
19th December 2006, 03:17 PM
Dr.P. I respect the work Jose, Molski and the others are doing, but that was not my point. My point was as you said "Right now Jose is dealing only with me and it's better that way.".I merely help in the initial bug testing. If this particular bug had been released the bitching would have been legendary and why clog up our threads this early. As it turns out Faria just sent me what appears to be the fix.
I expect some more beta testers will be invited now, though that's not my call (but it is my recomendation):D
newbie2
19th December 2006, 03:40 PM
Why not simply gather up all the threads a newbie would need in order to SIM/CID-unlock, upgrade, etc into one sticky post and call it something like "all you need to know to upgrade your wizard"... Might help to clear up some confusion
That would be good -- if it would work. Problem is that people just want to jump in with both feet asking questions WITHOUT reading first. That's been the problem all along and why the forum is such a mess now.
I'm SOOOOOO tired of the "I bricked my phone" threads and the "How do I unlock. . . " threads when all that information is already here several times over.
Just my 2 cents.
Is there any REAL way to 'make' someone read BEFORE posting?? That's the problem, as I see it.
kyphur
19th December 2006, 04:00 PM
Okay, we're getting a little off topic.
I think the point here is to address the most with the least.
By getting the CID Unlocking, Rom Flashing and other much sought after info stickied and closed threads then we can simply shut down new "I brincked my Phone" or What is CID unlocking threads by redirecting the OP to the stickied threads and then deleteing the new thread before it pollutes the already clogged threads.
After this pro-active approach is implimented, I will be more than happy to sift through the mounds of threads mercilessly deleting the old threads that are nothing but confusing and clogging to the search function.
hanmin
19th December 2006, 04:05 PM
It is impossible to have something that people will read before posting. I suggest that we have a section of FAQ by noobs, which other members can just post a single line "go read the wiki".
shogunmark
19th December 2006, 06:50 PM
the best place to start with clean up is the wikki, i looked through the wizard wikki last night and its horrible.. there is even a post from someone on there looking for something specific with their email address, didnt even bother to post it in the boards..
BTW, im a mod now to :D i will start looking and cleaning up tonight when i get home!
kyphur
19th December 2006, 06:54 PM
the best place to start with clean up is the wikki, i looked through the wizard wikki last night and its horrible.. there is even a post from someone on there looking for something specific with their email address, didnt even bother to post it in the boards..
BTW, im a mod now to :D i will start looking and cleaning up tonight when i get home!
Thanks for joining the Mods, glad to have the help. Maybe as you get the Wiki fixed you can lock the pages so someone else can't just come behind and destroy your work. (Leave a link for them to PM the Mods if they have info to add).:cool:
hanmin
20th December 2006, 11:30 AM
Wiki fixed you can lock the pages so someone else can't just come behind and destroy your work.
I don't think locking is a good option, it discourage people to add information into the page, and it defeats the purpose of a wiki anyway. You can have an HTML page if you wanted to have it locked.
Anyway, from what I can observed from the wiki page, members here are usually good in handling the wiki and it is not common to have someone messing up the page. If you look at the WM5 Tweak Others (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other), you will be amazed how systematic a page can be under the hands of the members. Just make sure you set a 'note' on your format and others will happily go through with it.
shogunmark
20th December 2006, 03:08 PM
yeah, locking the wikki isnt a good idea, i had the idea to initially lock it till clean up was done, but decided not to, some of us mods get busy with day to day life (especially me, my wife is due to pop out #4 any day now) and would be good for some of the other non-mod members to help out. And after we get the wikki cleaned up we should be able to unsticky some of the current sticky's ;) then we can just tell people to RTFW
Happy hump day
alexn2
21st December 2006, 03:23 PM
Moderators dont do hatchet job acting like the KGB...... think before you click it may seem useful but might help someone
alexn2
21st December 2006, 03:23 PM
yeah, locking the wikki isnt a good idea, i had the idea to initially lock it till clean up was done, but decided not to, some of us mods get busy with day to day life (especially me, my wife is due to pop out #4 any day now) and would be good for some of the other non-mod members to help out. And after we get the wikki cleaned up we should be able to unsticky some of the current sticky's ;) then we can just tell people to RTFW
Happy hump day
Hey congrats.....
alexn2
21st December 2006, 03:24 PM
yeah, locking the wikki isnt a good idea, i had the idea to initially lock it till clean up was done, but decided not to, some of us mods get busy with day to day life (especially me, my wife is due to pop out #4 any day now) and would be good for some of the other non-mod members to help out. And after we get the wikki cleaned up we should be able to unsticky some of the current sticky's ;) then we can just tell people to RTFW
Happy hump day
Hey congrats.....
let us know which model......
shogunmark
23rd December 2006, 08:31 AM
it was another pink model 4.0 :D
anyway, i just had a brilliant idea... so we have a ton of sticky's now.. how about we temporarily sticky all the important threads, then update the wikki with that info and in that info link the threads then unsticky it.. this way our posts dont start on page 2 lol
peraltah
26th December 2006, 12:28 AM
Im glad the fourm got some new MODS congrats! Can we do something about this _s character that has been messing with Jose and all his hard work?
shogunmark
26th December 2006, 02:28 AM
Im glad the fourm got some new MODS congrats! Can we do something about this _s character that has been messing with Jose and all his hard work?
is _s even still around? i havent seen his posts but then again i have been scanning for spammers :D And the other question is if _s is still around is this person still fking with people?
newbie2
26th December 2006, 02:37 AM
I haven't seen __s around in a couple of weeks. No great loss, though. ;)
peraltah
28th December 2006, 02:27 AM
I haven't seen __s around in a couple of weeks. No great loss, though. ;)
Ok good then I havent seen it but just in case he was that mofo!
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