to little ram memory

[andykha]

Greetings to all. For me in excellent under all characteristics HTC3300 there is only one unpleasant moment. After installation of all necessary programs there is no more of free memory than 24 mbyte. It is not enough for my needs. Even the program iGO cannot normally work with such memory size and takes off.

Somebody can help to solve to me this trouble and to release in RAM some mbyte? PLEASE!

[daern]

The usual technique is to use an external memory card (well, sort of external. Not really very external on the Artmenis, but you know what I mean) to install your apps and only have the absolute minimum of apps installed in the actually device memory.

Take care of anything that needs to run at boot time, however, as it can frequently fail to start owing to the SD card driver being loaded late in the boot process.

Should be fine with SatNav however. Not familiar with iGo, but TomTom only takes a few hundred kbytes of internal storage, with the rest stored on the SD card.

Daern

[andykha]

thank you, but I know these common truths also itself. The decision on clearing RAM, hammered by the preestablished programs (or still than) from developers from HTC is interesting to me.

[zerimar]

It's either you are doing something wrong or you really have a lot of programs installed and/or running. Remember that in a mobile device the closed programs are not released from memory and thus stay memory resident. You'll need a 3rd party program or go to Settings - System - Memory - Running programs to totally close the programs.

[andykha]

Thanks, but I already wrote, what not the full idiot in this sphere. I have a program closing (really) the programs on a dagger.
Simply you look, how many free RAM by the pure machine З300?
Plus, have in view of, that any installed programs (even on a memorycard) always reduce the size of operative memory.

You do not see a problem simply because you have old, tested S100...

[fdp24]

if don't want, don't install all software that comes during customisation phase.
about memory, you need to read a bit to understand how memory is allocated.
all materials are public.

[zerimar]

Thanks, but I already wrote, what not the full idiot in this sphere. I have a program closing (really) the programs on a dagger.
Simply you look, how many free RAM by the pure machine З300?
Plus, have in view of, that any installed programs (even on a memorycard) always reduce the size of operative memory.

You do not see a problem simply because you have old, tested S100...

I know English is not your mother tounge and it is very difficult to understand. We are all trying to help you out here. There are already quite a number of Artemis owners/users and no one has really complained about memory problems.

[andykha]

if don't want, don't install all software that comes during customisation phase.
about memory, you need to read a bit to understand how memory is allocated.
all materials are public.

Stick me, please, into these open materials. I could not see anywhere how to reduce or simply to change a set preestablished programs in my ROM since it is closed. And even in item anything is not present "Setting-system-removal of programs" for editing besides that I established.

And in russian:
Ткни меня носом, пожалуйста, в эти открытые материалы. Я нигде не смог увидеть, как уменьшить или просто изменить набор предустановленных программ в своей прошивке, т.к. она закрыта. И даже в пункте "Настройки-Система-Удаление программ" ничего нет для редактирования, кроме того, что устанавливал я сам.

[andykha]

I know English is not your mother tounge and it is very difficult to understand. We are all trying to help you out here. There are already quite a number of Artemis owners/users and no one has really complained about memory problems.

Yes, it's true. Maybe no one complained because (or/and) :
1. Did not load the device so strongly.
2. Do not use it with resource modules (for example, iGO).
3. Simply Russian ROM borrows in RAM more places, than WWE.

There may be other options.

On my clear Artemis was no more RAM as 30 mb. And on your?

[zerimar]

Most probably this is what you are experiencing. Check out this thread hopefully to give you some idea. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287000.

[fdp24]

you can search and find all answers to your questions right here, in a forum.
just search.

[andykha]

you can search and find all answers to your questions right here, in a forum.
just search.



A personal thanks from the bottom of my heart, helped as well helped.

[Becas]

Yes, it's true. Maybe no one complained because (or/and) :
1. Did not load the device so strongly.
2. Do not use it with resource modules (for example, iGO).
3. Simply Russian ROM borrows in RAM more places, than WWE.

There may be other options.

On my clear Artemis was no more RAM as 30 mb. And on your?

Well, I' ve 67 aplications installed in a 2gb microSD, Tomtom and Igo2006 too.
my free ram is 23,83Mb. Everything runs well. The CPU is overclocked to 247 Mhz with xcpuscalar2007.
I've an ETEN device too, the M600, with the same aplication set.The free ram is about 29Mb, ROM however is double than Artemis, and is a little faster too. As somebody said already here, there's a method explained in this forum that permit to avoid load the extended ROM. I didn't try yet. Perhaps in that way it wil be possible to have more ROM and RAM in the device.
I've noticed that some boot programs like todays plug-ins are not advisable to Artemis. To unload programs in ram I use the HTC_X-Button, is small and efficient.

[andykha]

Well, I' ve 67 aplications installed in a 2gb microSD, Tomtom and Igo2006 too.
my free ram is 23,83Mb. Everything runs well. The CPU is overclocked to 247 Mhz with xcpuscalar2007.
I've an ETEN device too, the M600, with the same aplication set.The free ram is about 29Mb, ROM however is double than Artemis, and is a little faster too. As somebody said already here, there's a method explained in this forum that permit to avoid load the extended ROM. I didn't try yet. Perhaps in that way it wil be possible to have more ROM and RAM in the device.
I've noticed that some boot programs like todays plug-ins are not advisable to Artemis. To unload programs in ram I use the HTC_X-Button, is small and efficient.


The matter is that at me RAM it is loaded by not working programs, and traces from installed programs (how to close current programs, I know). And my opinion, that loading on RAM is created first of all by booting HTC3300.

[Registerme]

There are already quite a number of Artemis owners/users and no one has really complained about memory problems.

Then I'm the next that is going to complain :mad: I also got a HTC P3300 and after a Hard Reset I have only 30 :eek: MB free RAM. The only programs I'm running is Wisbar Advance, SPB Mobile Shell and SPB Diary. In some reviews online I read something about over 40 MB, that would be perfect for me since I need 30 for my navigation software and 10 MB for my Shell und so on.

I've tried programs like SK Tools to free up RAM but that takes a loooong time and stops at about 25 MB, without that I have about 20. I hope someone a solution for that. I have a German P3300, don't know if that matters at all.

[Bart1981]

Hmm I never had 40Mb's of free ram. After a soft reset I have 26mb at most. After a few days the memory is down to 20mb.

[evaluator]

what nav software do you use? tomtom and igo, for example, can be run from the card.

[Registerme]

I use Klicktel, that's a German navigation software with white and yellow pages. So TomTom simply doesn't compare to that. It needs at least 20 MB, 30 is perfect.

But maybe I simply misunderstand a few things about Win Mobile 5, I used to have 2003 SE and was able to use the slider in the memory settings. When I install applications onto the device it gets installed in the flash memory which is not used as program memory, right? Cause I installed 4-5 programs to the device and I checked my main memory after evey installation and it didn't go down. After I soft resetted my device and the programs started (Wisbar Advance + SPB progs.) the memory went down to 20.

With my old TaskManager I was able to see all processes that were running but it doesn't seem to be compatible with Version 5 since there were only applications, no processes. I was wondering why this device has only 20-30 MB left of 64 MB, what did HTC do to the device? I could imagine that the phone part takes up some RAM, maybe 5 MB but what consumes to other 30 MB???