Linux on Trinity [Archive]

kimusan

02-01-2007, 06:39 PM

is it possible to do dual boot ? how will phone functionality etc work?

answering myself: yes it is, which means that I am in! I would love to help with the investigation for getting linux on this device. Looks like the new haret (01/01/2007) works well on trinity. I have successfully telnetted to it and executed several different commands.

cr2

02-01-2007, 08:04 PM

Looks like the new haret (01/01/2007) works well on trinity. I have successfully telnetted to it and executed several different commands.
Register a machine number for it.
Are the trinity internals known as good as the Hermes ?

kimusan

02-01-2007, 08:12 PM

Register a machine number for it.
Are the trinity internals known as good as the Hermes ?

What do you mean by Register a machine number? where do I do this? As far as I know, the internals are pretty well known. We have pictures that identifies all the relevant chips, and schematics for a lot of the chipset.

cr2

02-01-2007, 08:43 PM

What do you mean by Register a machine number? where do I do this?

http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/

As far as I know, the internals are pretty well known. We have pictures that identifies all the relevant chips, and schematics for a lot of the chipset.
Do you have a link ?

kimusan

02-01-2007, 08:47 PM

http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/

Do you have a link ?

It is in one (or more) of the threads in the trinity forum here at xdadevelopers. I do not have the direct links here, but have seen them recently. it is most likely in oone of the "GPS or not GPS" threads.

kimusan

02-01-2007, 08:58 PM

I have now registered the HTC Trinity/P3600

saminegm

03-01-2007, 05:45 AM

interesting

pof

03-01-2007, 09:57 AM

Do you have a link ?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285090

See first attachment, Mainboard.zip contains front and back pictures of Trinity's mainboard, with all chipsets.

renatostore

03-01-2007, 10:46 AM

Look here for the schemes:

http://www.solopalmari.com/content/view/2471/38/

page 2 and 3.

renatostore

30-05-2007, 09:21 PM

How is the state of art in porting linux on this device?

And on Hermes? Does the kernel boot?

With wm6 do you have to hard reset every time you try to boot the kernel?

Maybe Pof can answer these questions.

Thanks

pof

02-06-2007, 02:29 PM

@renatostore: cr2 and Kevin2 are the guys working on it, come into #htc-linux at freenode irc network.

On hermes the kernel boots, and we can load a minimal initrd using haret. On trinity i haven't checked lastly.

You don't need to hard reset afer booting linux, that was only on WM2003 :)

lollo82

24-01-2008, 03:12 PM

Hi
How about linux on trinity? i've been on the irc channel but didn't get any answer... a few months passed... i'm in hope! :)

ww2250

25-01-2008, 07:32 PM

I don't have high hope on that. Heard it's very difficult to debug stuff in Linux due to the lack of a hardware kb....

earl00

25-01-2008, 07:34 PM

why do you want linux on this phone? you are not going to be able to cross-compile apps over and I don't see a useful app in linux that wm6 doesn't have already for a phone.

bkortleven

28-01-2008, 10:37 PM

Hi...
Still interested...
Had someexperience with h36xx and h38xx/h39xx series HP/Compaq PDA's and familiar linux, and it would be very cool to have some of this running on the HTC hardware too...

Anyone already had a ROM cooked up with kernel/basic apps?
Any idea what will/does work and what won't/doesn't? like phone, camera, wifi, gprs, bluetooth, ...

Thanks!

cr2

29-01-2008, 01:23 PM

Any idea what will/does work and what won't/doesn't? like phone, camera, wifi, gprs, bluetooth, ...

Check the hermes wiki.
trinity is the hermes without keyboard, minor differences are unimportant :)

Lost_in_translation

08-02-2008, 07:18 AM

The future of Linux on PDAs is Andromeda. Don't expect this to be implemented on existing devices - Andromeda will be a means to deliver new devices to the market.

While you will most likely need a new phone for Andromeda, you will gain a complete platform with stylish and working applications, so you will be able to actually use the device right from the start.

Have fun!

dominique2222

08-02-2008, 08:20 PM

oh yeah very interesting! and more again if dualboot and aircrack incorpored...

have a look about ALP (Acces Linux Platform) :here (http://alp.access-company.com/)

http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/12.jpg http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/21.jpg

http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/31.jpg http://www.intomobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/41.jpg

andreadj

01-03-2008, 04:25 PM

Hi!

I have an HTC trinity since a year now and I've been waiting for a linux port since then.... I swear, if I was a coder I would start a project yesterday... but I'm just a sysadmin and the only code i can piss is script.
Windows mobile is an insult to such a nice device (flashing to WM6 is nearly useless.... and sometimes worst) so to me it would be great to just have a better OS on it.
To be straight, when I bought it I was certain that someone would have been able to port Linux to it.

Of course i'll be happy to help in any way if someone sees a role for my "resources" :D

saminegm

01-03-2008, 05:41 PM

bkortleven

02-03-2008, 10:23 AM

Flashing to WM6 through the uDK rom I found here on the board somewhere, did the trick for me, although I'd indeed rather see it run a REAL OS, not just a phony upgrade of a used-to-be-embedded software package used for dumb terminals in the early '90s...
The Rom lets me run Tomtom with WE maps on it without having to reset the device every two times I quit from TomTom... And have it do a reset every 5 calls answered or dialed...
It runs very nicely I must say...
But that's my opninion...

As far as I've heard and read, the hardware is still not known enough even to have it load a kernel through Haret or another bootloader-system...
So patience is the word, I think.

I'm running OPIE-II on a Universal, and it looks veeeeery promising I must say... On a bright and sunny day, there will be support for the chipset/cpu in the trinity too, and we'll have the same options on that nice little piece of technology too...
Until then, I'll stick to the uDK rom I loaded onto my trinity, and be patient with having a 'locked-down software' phone...

Lost_in_translation

02-03-2008, 08:43 PM

After reading through the infopages on the state of various projects, I wouldn't expect Linux for the P3600 to arrive in a timely fashion. There is obviously a lack of manpower, funding and documentation, resulting in an extremely slow progress.

The development will need the ressources of the manufacturers - HTC is part of the consortium which develops Andromeda, so expect them to offer some Linuxdevices with Andromeda in the not-so-distant future.

Have fun!

Campo

02-03-2008, 11:58 PM

...The development will need the ressources of the manufacturers - HTC is part of the consortium which develops Andromeda, so expect them to offer some Linuxdevices with Andromeda in the not-so-distant future...

When you say Andromeda you mean Android?

andreadj

05-03-2008, 12:51 PM

lol! I hope so....I don't need no database application programming stuff on my phone :D:D:cool:

tuksedra

06-03-2008, 03:02 AM

i can do the testing, even i dont even know programming.. but did haret work on wm6.1?.. i ve tried last week, (herm-linux-20070930) it just freez on "jumping to kernel"

bkortleven

06-03-2008, 09:08 AM

If there's any beta (or even alpha) kernel/file system release for trinity anybody needs testers for: let me know! I'd be happy to try and test stuff, and at least report errors and such. i'm not a programmer, but I know my way around linux pretty much, and have played with Universal on linux, and several OPIE and GPE based roms for IPAQ's 3xxx series before...

Let me know if anything like that exists :)

andreadj

08-03-2008, 12:30 PM

Cool, we are lots of tester... now we need some coding skills.... anybody knows where to start ? :P

dominique2222

22-03-2008, 04:20 PM

we must start on thing: patience ;)

cr2

22-03-2008, 05:52 PM

now we need some coding skills.... anybody knows where to start ? :P
You don't really need coding skills right now.
Please download the S3C2442 CPU manual and read about the registers controlling the
serial ports. Then you can check the values used by wince.
Differences between hermes amd trinity are marginal, but they are there.

jasnick

30-03-2008, 01:47 PM

I wanna try too. Would anyone can upload the linux rom on internet?

renatostore

02-04-2008, 07:47 PM

Hi all,

have we an haret version for this device?

i'm also interested in porting.

evlas

23-04-2008, 03:03 PM

Hi all,
I don't find more info about porting of linux on trinity.
There is a forum dedicated to this porting?

edkmho

26-04-2008, 10:01 AM

Guys,

I am no expert in programming/coding.

I am willing to help in anyway to get linux working on Trinity. By the way, there is a ported kernel specifically for ARM920T cpu on this website "http://mojo.handhelds.org/", source is available too.

Please check it out.

Thanks.

Tolt

30-04-2008, 12:11 PM

we must start on thing: patience ;)

thread subscribed.

cr2

01-05-2008, 10:38 PM

I am no expert in programming/coding.

CPU support is not a problem. The missing ATI SD driver is the problem.

Zorflieg

10-08-2008, 11:38 AM

hey maybe we could email this guy

http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT7937511405.html

all "help me obiwan kenobi" stylez.

he said he wrote an sd card driver for the himalaya so maybe it's the same or something.

or we could all donate $20 and put an ad on rent a coder or one of those indian rent a team mobs...

by now you may get the impression i too badly want a linux. a native android build would do nicely.