Will upgrading my X01HT re-lock it?

[awh_tokyo]

I've got an pre-December X01HT that I originally unlocked using imei-check's unlocker, and then made SuperCID by flashing pof's radio and running his unlocker v2a.

If I run Softbank's upgrader on it, will it stay unlocked, or did Softbank figure out how to re-lock the phones with the upgrade? It's important that I be able to continue to use the phone with both my Softbank and Globe (phils.) sim cards...

Thanks,

- awh

[qtotter]

I've got an pre-December X01HT that I originally unlocked using imei-check's unlocker, and then made SuperCID by flashing pof's radio and running his unlocker v2a.

If I run Softbank's upgrader on it, will it stay unlocked, or did Softbank figure out how to re-lock the phones with the upgrade? It's important that I be able to continue to use the phone with both my Softbank and Globe (phils.) sim cards...

Thanks,

- awh

i have no idea why you used both the unlockers, but my x01ht unlocked by imei-check is still unlocked after i burn the new s/b rom. also, i believe it still has supercid since i can still switch between docomo rom and s/b rom.

apply the imei-check unlocker again, and look for welcome.exe in \windows\start up. back it up, and install it whenever you hard-reset. (i don't know if this little program is installed only on s/b rom, tho...) without this program, x01ht will give you a "wrong sim" warning pop-up even though your device is actually unlocked. it kills this sim monitoring process.

[keiuchid]

i have no idea why you used both the unlockers, but my x01ht unlocked by imei-check is still unlocked after i burn the new s/b rom. also, i believe it still has supercid since i can still switch between docomo rom and s/b rom.

apply the imei-check unlocker again, and look for welcome.exe in \windows\start up. back it up, and install it whenever you hard-reset. (i don't know if this little program is installed only on s/b rom, tho...) without this program, x01ht will give you a "wrong sim" warning pop-up even though your device is actually unlocked. it kills this sim monitoring process.

My device is also still unlocked after ungrade, but can not unlock ExtROM.
How do you do ? Is your device unlocked ExtROM ?
I think that it can not be SuperCID after upgrade, only can unlock SIM.

[qtotter]

My device is also still unlocked after ungrade, but can not unlock ExtROM.
How do you do ? Is your device unlocked ExtROM ?
I think that it can not be SuperCID after upgrade, only can unlock SIM.

you are right. with the s/b rom, ext rom is always locked. however, if you burn the s/b rom and then burn the docomo rom, you can see ext rom is unlockable. i can check the cid status when i am back home.

[keiuchid]

you are right. with the s/b rom, ext rom is always locked. however, if you burn the s/b rom and then burn the docomo rom, you can see ext rom is unlockable. i can check the cid status when i am back home.

Thanks.
I know that if burn the docomo rom can unlock ExtROM(I am using this one).
Do you know the way that unlock ExtROM on s/b rom ?
My friend did that on Bootloader1.09 and New radio rom. But he used pof's unlocker(v2a). I think that it is diferrent between pof's unlocker and ime-check unlocker.

[qtotter]

Thanks.
I know that if burn the docomo rom can unlock ExtROM(I am using this one).
Do you know the way that unlock ExtROM on s/b rom ?
My friend did that on Bootloader1.09 and New radio rom. But he used pof's unlocker(v2a). I think that it is diferrent between pof's unlocker and ime-check unlocker.

i think no one has figured out how to unlock ext rom on x01ht yet. i use the docomo rom as well since x01ht does not support a2dp.

[qtotter]

I think that it can not be SuperCID after upgrade, only can unlock SIM.

my cid was VODAK801. so, it was my misunderstanding that i thought my device still kept supercid after burning the s/b rom. it looks like it's been fixed to the s/b cid although i use it with the docomo rom now after unlocking by imei-check and burning the new s/b rom. interesting.

[qtotter]

I've got an pre-December X01HT that I originally unlocked using imei-check's unlocker, and then made SuperCID by flashing pof's radio and running his unlocker v2a.

i have been always thinking, somehow, that imei-check's unlocker unlocks sim-lock and changes cid status to supercid, but it does not change cid at all? is it the reason why awh used pof's unlocker after imei-check's unlocker??

[pof]

Yes, imei-check unlocker downgrades to bootloader 1.04, removes SIMLock and sets the device SuperCID, but the supercid status is lost when another ROM or radio ROM is flashed.

In my unlocker, Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe makes the SuperCID stay forever once patched radio has been flashed.

[awh_tokyo]

i have been always thinking, somehow, that imei-check's unlocker unlocks sim-lock and changes cid status to supercid, but it does not change cid at all? is it the reason why awh used pof's unlocker after imei-check's unlocker??

Yes... I only applied pof's unlocker recently. Before, I never found the need for supercid, since I could just drop down to bootloader 1.04 to put a different rom on... But now the newest roms can't be unlocked if the device is not supercid.

Well, I'm going to hold on until the bitter end, will apply Softbank's rom on 3/31 if nobody has come up with the new password at that point...

[harryk1372]

Well, I'm going to hold on until the bitter end, will apply Softbank's rom on 3/31 if nobody has come up with the new password at that point...

i agree and that's the best way to go for now. i'll do the same. ;)

[qtotter]

Yes, imei-check unlocker downgrades to bootloader 1.04, removes SIMLock and sets the device SuperCID, but the supercid status is lost when another ROM or radio ROM is flashed.

In my unlocker, Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe makes the SuperCID stay forever once patched radio has been flashed.

now, i understand... well, i have lost a chance to run pof's unlocker to make my x01ht to keep supercid for good since i have burnt the new s/b rom once. on the other hand, it could be the reason why they had mine repaired since someone who used pof's unlocker got rejected by s/b to have his x01ht repaired... it's catch 22...

[keiuchid]

I could unlock ExtROM on X01HT(Upgrade to New ROM=1.33.761.4, Radio ROM=1.14.00.10, Protocol=32.50.7018.00h).
I did as follow's way:
1. simunlock by imei-check unlocker.
2. Burn the Docomo rom.(=already unlocked ExtROM)
3. use pof's unlocker(maybe make device SuperCID)
4. Upgrade rom with RUU_X01HT_1.33.761.4.1.14.00.10
5. Now I can use docomo sim and softbank sim, also can unlock ExtROM.

[harryk1372]

I could unlock ExtROM on X01HT(Upgrade to New ROM=1.33.761.4, Radio ROM=1.14.00.10, Protocol=32.50.7018.00h).
I did as follow's way:
1. simunlock by imei-check unlocker.
2. Burn the Docomo rom.(=already unlocked ExtROM)
3. use pof's unlocker(maybe make device SuperCID)
4. Upgrade rom with RUU_X01HT_1.33.761.4.1.14.00.10
5. Now I can use docomo sim and softbank sim, also can unlock ExtROM.

Just to make this clear... which rom did you have when you ran the imei-check unlocker?

[pof]

To unlock ExtROM device must be SuperCID, to make it SuperCID device must have a flashable radio, so obviously he was running the rom PRE december 2nd with 1.06 bootloader on it.

[harryk1372]

thanks pof. ;) that's what i thought but wanted keiuchid to make it clear to everyone as it could confuse some people that it could be done with the post 12/2 rom.

[keiuchid]

To unlock ExtROM device must be SuperCID, to make it SuperCID device must have a flashable radio, so obviously he was running the rom PRE december 2nd with 1.06 bootloader on it.

Yes, you are right.

[Lyin]

excause me , can anyone tell me how to check is it the superCID or not .. ?

[otoro_315]

@keiuchid' quote ---
I did as follow's way:
1. simunlock by imei-check unlocker.
2. Burn the Docomo rom.(=already unlocked ExtROM)
3. use pof's unlocker(maybe make device SuperCID)
4. Upgrade rom with RUU_X01HT_1.33.761.4.1.14.00.10
5. Now I can use docomo sim and softbank sim, also can unlock ExtROM.s quote:


questions:
on step2- did you get the rom docomo rom from the wiki hermes ROM upgrade link list and what SPL value at the time?

on step4- after the upgrade softbank rom, what is the SPL

on step5- how do you able to use docomo and softbank sim and unlock the extrom - because if you have now the softbank SPL 1.09 and radio rom 1.14, you should not able to unlock your SIM. please explain. thanks in advance.

(may be i'm missing something here)

[pof]

Please note that keiuchid's X01HT was sold Previous December 2nd, this is the most important, otherwise he could not have done it.

on step2- did you get the rom docomo rom from the wiki hermes ROM upgrade link list and what SPL value at the time?

SPL on his original rom was 1.06, then he applied imei-check unlocker, so the SPL downgraded to 1.04. After this he applied the DoCoMo ROM found in the wiki, which has SPL-1.04.

on step4- after the upgrade softbank rom, what is the SPL

On this step the SPL is upgraded to 1.09, but he purchased imei-check unlocker, so he can downgrade it to 1.04 at any time, by just applying the unlocker.

on step5- how do you able to use docomo and softbank sim and unlock the extrom - because if you have now the softbank SPL 1.09 and radio rom 1.14, you should not able to unlock your SIM.

His X01HT simlock was removed on step 1, and Flashing a ROM does NOT re-lock it. So, once SIM-Unlocked, it's SIM-unlocked forever.

His device was made SuperCID with Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe on step 3, he applied it while running the 1.16 patched radio, so his device will be SuperCID forever.

After this he flashed Softbank's ROM with "read only" radio, now he has a Sim-Unlocked and CID-Unlocked device, where he can switch ROMs and put any provider's SIM to his liking, but he will keep the Softbank 1.14 radio ROM at least until we see any ROM upgrade which is able to overwrite this radio ROM (which is not available yet).

Hope this makes the situation clear to you all :)

[keiuchid]

Pof,Thank you for your notice.
you are very clear.

But i have one qestion.
I have two X01HT and unlocked at same time(with bootloader 1.06).
One burned docomo rom, this one could unlock extended rom after re-burned s/b new rom.
But the other one could not unlock extended rom.
this one also can burn docomo rom after upgrading to s/b new rom, and when use docomo rom, can unlock extended rom, but after burn s/b rom can not unlock extended rom. Why ? It's very strange.

[otoro_315]

@Pof -
thanks for your support and great explaination of the keiuchid's process :):D

[pof]

@keiuchid: If you've done the same exact process you should be able to unlock ExtROM also on S/B ROM on your second device, but if you are unable I guess it is because the second one is not SuperCID (but you can still switch ROMs by using the SPL-1.04 bug).

[qtotter]

@keiuchid: If you've done the same exact process you should be able to unlock ExtROM also on S/B ROM on your second device, but if you are unable I guess it is because the second one is not SuperCID (but you can still switch ROMs by using the SPL-1.04 bug).

pof, i guess what keiuchid wanted to say was a little different. as i previously wrote, i have a pre-dec x01ht unlocked by imei-check. i burnt the new s/b once, which has made my x01ht cid-locked, and i use it with the docomo rom now.

with my sim-unlocked cid-locked x01ht, i can unlock the ext rom with the docomo rom although it cannot be supercid. he must be wondering about this point.

thanks.

[pof]

Thanks for pointing that out qtotter :)
so the explanation is this:


If you use imei-check unlocker on pre-December 2nd X01HT devices, and flash any ROM (or Radio-ROM) your CID becomes VODAK801 again.

If you flash the Softbank 1.33.761.4, you loose the SuperCID FOREVER if and only if you don't run Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe while having the patched radio on the device, which in that case will make the SuperCID stay FOREVER (even after flashing that Softbank 1.33 rom).


As explained on the wiki ExtROM page (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Unhide_Extrom), there are two types of rom, I called them "old" and "new".

The difference between "old" and "new" roms, is that "old" ROMs allow to unlock the ExtROM even if device is not SuperCID, and "new" ROMs only allow to unlock the ExtROM on SuperCID devices.

As you might have figured out, DoCoMo's 1.23.731.2 ROM is an "old" type ROM, and lets you unlock the ExtROM even if device is not SuperCID, and SoftBank's 1.33.761.4 ROM is a "new" type ROM, so device must be SuperCID to be able to unlock the ExtROM.

@keiuchid:
- You ran Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe on your first device (step 3), so it is SuperCID forever and will allow you to unlock the ExtROM in any ROM (docomo or softbank)
- You didn't run Herm_Unlock_v2a.exe on your second device (step 3), so after flashing a ROM (step 4) you lost the SuperCID, so you will only be able to Unlock the ExtROM on "old" type ROMs, such as the DoCoMo ROM, but not on "new" type ROMs such as the SoftBank ROM. As you flashed the SoftBank 1.14 read-only radio on this device, you will not be able to make it SuperCID again, at least, until someone figures out how to get rid of this 1.14 radio ;)

I hope it's now even more clear than before... :)