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MohamedYousri
10th January 2007, 04:21 PM
Hi

Is there any way to update my Himalaya Using SD Card ???!!!
like Qtek 1010 opening device in bootloader then inserting the card that contain the rom

is there any way to do the same thing to update Himalaya to 2003se or 2005 ??!!!

Thanks for your help

selangkahlagi
15th January 2007, 08:45 AM
my question is, why you didn't use your PC ?

MohamedYousri
15th January 2007, 11:54 AM
My answer is

my phone socket has damaged , i can't connect to to pc just i can charge

iam using blue-tooth to sync between computer an my XDA II

sawyer_family
17th January 2007, 11:58 AM
Hi

Is there any way to update my Himalaya Using SD Card ???!!!
like Qtek 1010 opening device in bootloader then inserting the card that contain the rom

is there any way to do the same thing to update Himalaya to 2003se or 2005 ??!!!

Thanks for your help



......there is a way to flash the XDA system rom from an SD card, in fact it is
quite easy IF you have already flashed the ROM via USB in the usual way and
then use the bootloader to dump it to a spare SD card. In fact I tested it and
it works perfectly. Even flashed my XDAII with 3.5b.40CS ROM from SD card
in under 5 minutes and with no connection to PC of course. In fact I took a
silly risk and did it unpowered too (just don't tell anyone - ok)

This means in theory I could dump my WM5 ROM to SD card. Copy the raw
data to a file and give you instructions to make your own SD ROM image to
flash your XDA via the SD socket. but.....

Unfortunately I think there is another catch. I only have one XDA so I can't
test this, but I believe when you dump a system ROM using the "d2s" bootloader
command it sticks a 411 byte header to the SD card. This appears to contain
system/SD card specific info / crc data which is generated by the bootloader
program. I assume this is to stop someone accidently (or purposely) loading
a system ROM from one XDA to another. I'm thinking your XDA would reject
the SD card as invalid (although I don't know for sure)

but...I also think there is a way round this. If you can create an SD dump of
the ROM that is already in your XDA (which you should do anyway as a
precaution) then you could strip the 411 byte header from your SD card image
and write it over the top of the header in the image I give you. Then this
should flash ok (it might fail the checksum at the end, but should flash ok)

BUT (and this is the real problem) If your serial / USB link on the XDA is damaged
I can't think of a way to instruct the bootloader to dump your header + ROM
image to the SD card. We've sort of come full circle. You need to update ROM
via SD card because your USB connection is broken, but you can't get a
SD dump header because you need the USB connection.

The only ways round this would be for someone to dissamble the bootloader code
and maybe write a PPC app to create a valid header record.

Anybody got any ideas?

S_F

MohamedYousri
17th January 2007, 05:27 PM
BUT (and this is the real problem) If your serial / USB link on the XDA is damaged
I can't think of a way to instruct the bootloader to dump your header + ROM
image to the SD card. We've sort of come full circle. You need to update ROM
via SD card because your USB connection is broken, but you can't get a
SD dump header because you need the USB connection.

The only ways round this would be for someone to dissamble the bootloader code
and maybe write a PPC app to create a valid header record.

Anybody got any ideas?

S_F


This is exactly my problem my serial / USB link on the XDA is damaged

Waiting for help

thanks for your help

selangkahlagi
17th January 2007, 07:49 PM
......there is a way to flash the XDA system rom from an SD card, in fact it is
quite easy IF you have already flashed the ROM via USB in the usual way and
then use the bootloader to dump it to a spare SD card. In fact I tested it and
it works perfectly. Even flashed my XDAII with 3.5b.40CS ROM from SD card
in under 5 minutes and with no connection to PC of course. In fact I took a
silly risk and did it unpowered too (just don't tell anyone - ok)

This means in theory I could dump my WM5 ROM to SD card. Copy the raw
data to a file and give you instructions to make your own SD ROM image to
flash your XDA via the SD socket. but.....

Unfortunately I think there is another catch. I only have one XDA so I can't
test this, but I believe when you dump a system ROM using the "d2s" bootloader
command it sticks a 411 byte header to the SD card. This appears to contain
system/SD card specific info / crc data which is generated by the bootloader
program. I assume this is to stop someone accidently (or purposely) loading
a system ROM from one XDA to another. I'm thinking your XDA would reject
the SD card as invalid (although I don't know for sure)

but...I also think there is a way round this. If you can create an SD dump of
the ROM that is already in your XDA (which you should do anyway as a
precaution) then you could strip the 411 byte header from your SD card image
and write it over the top of the header in the image I give you. Then this
should flash ok (it might fail the checksum at the end, but should flash ok)

BUT (and this is the real problem) If your serial / USB link on the XDA is damaged
I can't think of a way to instruct the bootloader to dump your header + ROM
image to the SD card. We've sort of come full circle. You need to update ROM
via SD card because your USB connection is broken, but you can't get a
SD dump header because you need the USB connection.

The only ways round this would be for someone to dissamble the bootloader code
and maybe write a PPC app to create a valid header record.

Anybody got any ideas?

S_F

I know this Idea. Once, I have tried to back up my WM2003 sistem to my SD card use d2s command using mtty software. Actually in theory I succeed to make back up image in SD Card and if there is something happen, I just flash by SD card. But I have never tried this step, because I succeed to install WM5. :D

In that time I make image system from my PDA. But in this case, MohamedYousri need such as thing system, not from PDA but from PC. But I don't know how to make image files from PC. If there is somebody can tell how to make it, I agree with you. I think it is possible to flash from SD card.

Another way MohamedYousri should make image from another PDA (with WM5 sistem) and put it in his device :D

MohamedYousri
17th January 2007, 08:57 PM
Another way MohamedYousri should make image from another PDA (with WM5 sistem) and put it in his device :D

Do you mean to upgrade XDAII with WM05 and then make an SD image and flash my XDAII ??

Do you think that will work ??!!

selangkahlagi
17th January 2007, 09:22 PM
Do you mean to upgrade XDAII with WM05 and then make an SD image and flash my XDAII ??

Do you think that will work ??!!

If some body have XDA II with WM5, and then you back up /make an image in SD card. And with that card flash your XDA II, I think in theory it should work. :D but I never try this way, because my device still work well :D

llbasha
23rd January 2007, 04:21 AM
There is a development tool by SBP called 'clone'... It will clone identical devices but it is commercial and expensive... but SBP provide a trial version:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/clone/?en
I hope this help........
Features
* One device is configured, the rest are subject to clone
* The average device cloning time is about 3 minutes.
* Self-extracting and self-executing image file on an SD card
* Assigned location of the target clone image files
* Providing individual names and IP addresses for clones.

llbasha
23rd January 2007, 07:58 AM
......there is a way to flash the XDA system rom from an SD card, in fact it is
quite easy IF you have already flashed the ROM via USB in the usual way and
then use the bootloader to dump it to a spare SD card. In fact I tested it and
it works perfectly. Even flashed my XDAII with 3.5b.40CS ROM from SD card
in under 5 minutes and with no connection to PC of course. In fact I took a
silly risk and did it unpowered too (just don't tell anyone - ok)

This means in theory I could dump my WM5 ROM to SD card. Copy the raw
data to a file and give you instructions to make your own SD ROM image to
flash your XDA via the SD socket. but.....

S_F

Would you please give step by step guide how did you dump to the SD card, and how did flash XDAii from SD card?
Thank you

Maggy
23rd August 2007, 04:12 AM
There is a development tool by SBP called 'clone'...

That clones everything from the location of your first clicks on the Welcome screen up to everything you installed, your data, your settings, your registry tweaks, your skins, you can even select if you want to restore the date and time of the clone or leave the new device's time intact.
But it does not clone the OS or anything in ROM.

After some bad experiences both with Activesync backup and with another commercial backup, I only trust Clone. And next week I'm going to use it to transfer my software and settings to another Himalaya. Disadvantage: I'll have to remove all my personal files (contacts, tasks...) from that other device.

JanHavlicek
10th September 2007, 10:32 AM
Hello,

So is there any way, how to flash my XDA2 via SD card ? My data connector is broken, so I completely cannot use computer/USB connection. I mean some program, which transfers *.nbf files to SD card in form, that is understandable for XDA2's bootloader etc. Or if some developer like helmi, buzz,... can convert last WM6 ROMs to SD-image form.

Thanks

Rudegar
10th September 2007, 12:03 PM
not that i know of