The WIKI Ideas/Suggestion Thread

[Jesterz]

Hi,

Next to making ROMs I want to try and work on the wiki some more to make it THE prophet information source on basic questions.

I made this thread for users to suggest stuff that they think should be covered.

This is NOT a thread for asking questions about your prophet.

Thanks

[Eladio.Linares]

Hi Jester
Wiki forums has pros and cons. Reading 20 pages of mixed text is not by far the best way to learn anything, the main problem for me is to distingish good info from bad one.
The 'Expert Selection': For each thread I would like to see only what an expert/senior member has selected. This filter can be multiple and tematic; the same 'expert' can select only some posts an 'rename' the sub-thread; and of course the same thread could be filtered by two or more members.

This way i can have the same point of view of them, and this is important for me..

[TheTeek]

Hi Jester,

Thanks for the big support on the Prophet and releasing ROM versions!

In the Forums there are many questions about how to upgrade your (for example) Dutch ROM to a WWE, what to do, maybe this is also something to add to the Wiki.

The Wiki side sould be rich of information about how to upgrade the ROM, what are usefull programms, free or payed, where does ipl and SPL stand for, What are the latest versions.

Groet,
TheTeek

[KoolPal]

Hi Jesterz,

Thanks a ton for your ROMs and your efforts!

One of the most eagerly sought after info is ROM editing specifically for G4 roms (specially again for Prophet).

Can you help in consolidating the tools (along with usage tips) to modify ROMs to achieve the following:

1. Steps to upgrade only the OS to whichever ROM OS you want.
2. Steps to increase the pagepool to X [I understand the device runs faster on an increased pagepool], but I am not sure of the ideal size to be kept. I got some details from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283280&highlight=pagepool
4. Steps to remove MS Office, voice dial and other applications from the rom and add a few apps. Will also need help in adding few apps like resco explorer and some registry hacks into the ROM.
5. Steps to move some programs from programs to system (for e.g smsdeliveryfix)

Am sure others can also add to this request.

Thanks.

[Pepez]

Hi Jesterz,
thanks for this thread, I beleve there are a lot of stupid questions because a lot of information in the wiki are too much generic and the people have fear to make some errors (IS NOT YOUR FAULT because the newbie are sometime very newbie).
My dream wiki is:
- more specific
- with new information

For example, if you check the main procedure to update the rom, there are some step not very clear:

1) ***
If it states: "Could not update itsutils.dll to the current version, maybe it is in use ?" Do the following :
Copy the cab's from the Utils folder in the Lokiwiz03a.zip file to your Prophet and execute them.
(There are two files : "Cert_SPCS.cab" and "EnableRapi.cab")

This is not clear. A lot of user wrote me in private asking if you need to do a soft reset (or no, or an hard reset) after that.

2) ***
Sometime after that the itsutils.dll error is still alive. What the people have to do?

3)***
In some rom, you don't have to unlock the cid... right? But this is not on the wiki.

4) ***
There are some question where there are not answer, like this one in the ROM DUMPT.
"if you want backup your own rom, you have to do the unlock cid procedure and update the rom with another one. But if you do that you lost your own rom!!! So, why there is a Dump rom procedure, if you can not do that with your original one?"

5) ***
I would lik see in the wiky a tread with the list of the BEST ROM and the update.


6) ***
There are some etc...

[mr_yellow]

I think what would be a *very* good piece of info for newbies is what are all the tools you guys use (cert.cab, etc etc....) and what each does to some degree....

as a newb myself, I find it *very* daunting and very scary to see lots of stuff posted on the forums that say "How To: Copy fileA and fileB to device, run fileC.exe on computer, then execute fileD on device, then wait, and poof! you're done". I'd be nice to at least know that the heck each of the components are and the purpose (even if it's very technical) of each one.

Also, if it's possible, list off any interdependencies these tools have. There are too many "half-instructions" floating around and it's really difficult to determine whether the user needs to do anything before hand before following the instructions.

*lastely*, Can we get a guide that lists off all the pros and cons for each of the custom ROMs that are getting posted. It's a little tough for newbies to know what are all the pros and cons for each ROM. Yes, we know there are pros and cons and nothings perfect, but *what* are the bugs? and what are the features? At least that way we can decide for ourselves whether or not the ROM will work for us...

I'm only into day 2 of all of this so I apologize if what I'm suggesting sounds stupid.

Thanks

[_andre_]

Hello all,

Jesterz, thanks you for your investisment in the forum.

Some suggestions about the wiki.

One of the main issues for upgrading a rom is to have a clear view of what is going on.
There are many threads discussing different roms.
It should be grateful to have one main page giving an overview of every live rom and a page for each rom where the author can put a link and also give the current status of his rom and known issues. So I join to Mr Yellow for this.
It should be something very basic, not as far as an Issue tracking page (ie http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MPA)
By now, whenever I want to update a rom, I have to read the entire post...
One solution can be, for each cooking rom version, adding a text file that describe everything to know.

Of course, a howto for cooking rom and useful mistakes can be also interesting.

cheers
Andre

[doublej]

Hi Guys - and yes, thanks for all the time & investment made here.

I'm a fairly new member, and one thing I think would benefit the WIKI is an idiots guide or introduction.

I found the the wiki a bit tricky in so much that it starts at a fairly high level and misses the basics

Whats an AKU and why might I prefer a new one ?

What extra features can I get with a new rom ?

Why might I need newer radio drivers ?


Stuff like that.

Also, a glossary would go down reall well.

JJ

[skyeking69]

Hi Guys - and yes, thanks for all the time & investment made here.

I'm a fairly new member, and one thing I think would benefit the WIKI is an idiots guide or introduction.

I found the the wiki a bit tricky in so much that it starts at a fairly high level and misses the basics

Whats an AKU and why might I prefer a new one ?

What extra features can I get with a new rom ?

Why might I need newer radio drivers ?


Stuff like that.

Also, a glossary would go down reall well.

JJ


I agree with the above......more of a beginner area with more explaination
Not an idiot guide but something more for the leaner who want to be experts like most here

[uayeb]

I think these are all great suggestions. The Prophet wiki is looking pretty sparse at the moment. So why doesn't everyone start editing it, rather than just talking about it?

Cheers,
uayeb

[wade]

Hello
read it !
agree!

[Pallas]

Shall i make a tutorial for changing the case? I know there is one already in another forum(modaco). But i want one on xda-developers?

[mr_yellow]

the more the merrier!

[l3v5y]

I think possibly the most useful thing would be 'How to recover Prophet stuck in Bootloader'. I seem to telling people how to do it most days and sometimes more than once a day...
I'll happily write a 'How To' if required. ;)

[mr_yellow]

I think possibly the most useful thing would be 'How to recover Prophet stuck in Bootloader'. I seem to telling people how to do it most days and sometimes more than once a day...
I'll happily write a 'How To' if required. ;)

You know, that's what's awesome about the wiki... you *CAN* go ahead and write whatever you want. It only takes like 5-10 minutes to understand the syntax of wiki-code... create a new page, write your stuff down, and start formatting. Bam, you've created a wiki page that everyone can use. Announce to the fourm that you've done so and you're done!

Then you can start insulting newbies that complain about getting stuck in boot loader that they should search and read the wiki! It feels really good! ;)

[l3v5y]

You know, that's what's awesome about the wiki... you *CAN* go ahead and write whatever you want. It only takes like 5-10 minutes to understand the syntax of wiki-code... create a new page, write your stuff down, and start formatting. Bam, you've created a wiki page that everyone can use. Announce to the fourm that you've done so and you're done!

Then you can start insulting newbies that complain about getting stuck in boot loader that they should search and read the wiki! It feels really good! ;)

But how can I get it uploaded?

[mr_yellow]

But how can I get it uploaded?

You don't upload anything. You can edit each page like it was a forum post. there's special syntax for lists, bullet points, headlines, links etc... but if you want to create a page, all you need is a title and that's it. Everything is done on the serverside.

The easiest way to start is to pick a page, click the edit button at the bottom, then add a new link to a page using the syntax [new page title]. when you save it, "new page title" becomes a link to a new page where you can create a new page and add more content there.

Give it a shot. Don't be afraid to break stuff.. you can always look back on old versions of the page and reverse any changes.

[wanwarlock]

Shall i make a tutorial for changing the case? I know there is one already in another forum(modaco). But i want one on xda-developers?

I second this!!! I've been looking at the modaco 1, & feel we need to have 1 from xda dev & Pallas is the man... heheh

[l3v5y]

You don't upload anything. You can edit each page like it was a forum post. there's special syntax for lists, bullet points, headlines, links etc... but if you want to create a page, all you need is a title and that's it. Everything is done on the serverside.

The easiest way to start is to pick a page, click the edit button at the bottom, then add a new link to a page using the syntax [new page title]. when you save it, "new page title" becomes a link to a new page where you can create a new page and add more content there.

Give it a shot. Don't be afraid to break stuff.. you can always look back on old versions of the page and reverse any changes.

Breaking stuff can be fun :D I'll give it a try now...

[mr_yellow]

Breaking stuff can be fun :D I'll give it a try now...

Good Luck!

[l3v5y]

Good Luck!

I've finished it, if someone would like to make sure it works, and tell me if I can't spell, I would appreciate it:D

[khrisstyan]

HY,is there any tutorial for ,,how to OC the processor,,? (sorry for my bad english)

[l3v5y]

HY,is there any tutorial for ,,how to OC the processor,,? (sorry for my bad english)

Do a search for BatteryStatus or HomeScreen++ as they provide an over clocking feature for OMAP850 devices (such as the Prophet).

[mk40497]

Hi bro how r u hope that u will be fine
bro i need to upgrade my imate jamin and right now i have
ipl 2.09
spl 2.09.0000
os 29.7.24
and room version is 2.9.7.24wwe
and radio version is 2.07
and now i want to upgrade my window 6 or 6.5
so i m verythank full to u if u provide me the orginal room
to upgrade my imate
thanks
regards mohsin khan