Is it really time for WM6?

[nuclear]

Thats the question: is it really time for WM6?
So far i believe that the device cannot digest what we have so far of WM6. Too many non-functional things or bugs if you would like to say =_=
Device auto-locks and asks for password and if you dont have a password you cannot get into the device other than by soft reset. Asks password even for activesync! PDAViet has problem with activesync in vista as it disconnects after 5 minutes. WiFi only turns on from Comm center. Hang up's on 25MB free RAM. A lot of memory leak! 10MB to run SPB Time -_-...

The password/auto-locking issue is main i find very frustrating and also the memory problem. Infidel's ROM is fortunately safe on RAM but not on password/auto-lock.

Need i say any more bugs? If you have anything more to add please do as I am going to stick either with WM5 as someone posted earlier.

[Pentium]

WM6 looks nice but it's not fuctional right now I guess!

and I'm really confused about ROMs and Versions!

now I have time to try...but after my classes starts, I think I'll back to WM5 AKU 3.5 and install my programs!

so now playing with WM6 :) maybe a good ROM will show up soon!

[kchris]

Thats the question: is it really time for WM6?
So far i believe that the device cannot digest what we have so far of WM6. Too many non-functional things or bugs if you would like to say =_=
Device auto-locks and asks for password and if you dont have a password you cannot get into the device other than by soft reset. Asks password even for activesync! PDAViet has problem with activesync in vista as it disconnects after 5 minutes. WiFi only turns on from Comm center. Hang up's on 25MB free RAM. A lot of memory leak! 10MB to run SPB Time -_-...

The password/auto-locking issue is main i find very frustrating and also the memory problem. Infidel's ROM is fortunately safe on RAM but not on password/auto-lock.

Need i say any more bugs? If you have anything more to add please do as I am going to stick either with WM5 as someone posted earlier.

unfortunately I haven't met with ANY of your serius bugs... not a memory leak, not a requested passw without setting it.. not a soft reset in the last 4 days.. I'm using midget's first WM6 rom..

[AlanJC]

Urm.....

We have a leaved version of an RTM build purely for development purposes.

It's not complete, it was never going to be commercially released for this device, and it's missing lots.

And you're complaining?

It was never meant to be used by non developers. We use it because we like to play with things, but you can't knock it because you don't want to use it due to the bugs, most of those bugs weren't there in the pure base release from Microsoft. They are things we have introduced by installing non WM6 software, hacking the ROM, and so on.

[daddy k]

im using the viet pro one and having no problems!
had it for about 3 days now and not needed one reset! still got 20mb ram free, and i use tomtom all day and internet explorer.

as for password on activesync, well my activsynch asked for a password once then asked me do i want it to remember the password, i clicked yes and not been asked since.

[vijay555]

Nuclear, you were in on the other thread on this subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291291
I don't think this thread adds much to that debate.

I can say from personal experience that I have a friend that has been running the roms on various devices for several months continuously, for low level development, Live instant messenging for 6 hours daily, web browsing over wifi (with Picsel), and general phone use, and never found it to have any significant negative side effects.

In fact, getting rid of the HTC Phone Skin and replacing it with the new default dialler improved the speed of the device so much that he would never go back.

Frankly, with the ability to make custom roms, even if the Crossbow leaks end here, there's still a great deal to be happy with right now.

You've been complaining about the wifi problem for a while.
My friend doesn't find it to be crippling, but I advise him to use VJVolubilis for this anyway, or just the CommManager. The functionality could be hacked back in if required, although it's hardly worth the effort for one extra click.

He's not noticed any major incompatibilities, although he tends to write his own stuff anyway, and no noticeable memory leaks with the default system.

He's also never noticed any peculiar password issues. ActiveSync always worked fine. Maybe he's not been exposed to the problems you've experienced, and this may be due to differences in builds, but in his opinion, even the existing Crossbow leaks are more pleasurable to use then the normal WM5 roms. It's not a major advancement, mostly cosmetic as far as most non-developers are concerned, but still enough improvements to make it worth experiencing at least.

V

[AlanJC]

Some people are Mac users, and crave simplicty, in which case I advise them to use a Palm (Sorry, Access Garnet OS device now), some people like to tweak, and play, and learn how to do thigs themselves, which is where we like to play with Windows devices :)

[daddy k]

dont like to play and tweak get a basic nokia ;)

[Wiz]

Vijay555 is spot on there. In my opinion (and I am using Indra's version), the current state of WM6 for the Universal device is excellent, and while still not perfect, way better than any of the officially released roms. I use my Universal for work, I use it really heavily during project meetings, for mail and internet and so forth, and I found no real reasons to complain.

However, WM6 is NOT an official release and if you install and use it, you cannot criticize its bugs. The fact alone that it was not officially made available to you by T-Mobile, Qtek or O2 voids all your rights in that area.

Your only "right" is to help all the goodwilling people in this forum by identifying issues in a positive and constructive manner so that they may be taken along in future releases.

Personally, I think that until now, WM6 (and already AKU3.5 to some extent) has proved to be a breeze of fresh air compared to the older release roms. I will not be going back to WM5, WM6 is stable enough and fast enough for my personal needs.

Nuclear, just some friendly advice. If I were you I would either go back to a release rom and stop whining, or stop flaming the current release and start giving some feedback that is actually useful. We all know that WM6 only came to us by "accident", and that we should be grateful for what it brings instead of pissing on what it doesn't bring.

(Now can someone close this thread please? I think enough has been said about WM6 and its bugs/issues)

[Bulldog]

I have seen so many complain about WM6, which I definitely not understand. I have been using the WM6 PADVIET 2.00.4 pro now for quite sometimes.
I have to say it is great ROM. It is very stable, it has good performance, battery live is great .
Well Yes agreed it has sure few miner bugs but they are not Stoppages. Looking back all the ROM’s that started here they had as well “bugs” beside missing or not jet functional OS application. Well it is up to everyone whether those miner issues are so important for their own.

As I believe this forum is a kind developing form. We are using ROMs that officially not exist and will never exist for our Universal. Only those guys which spending time and efforts, making it possible to see and operate those in our devices. Those people need our feedbacks to find out issues they were not aware or had not the opportunity to test the functionality of those application. Indeed as we can see after sometimes there are new ROM’s and they are better than previous ones.

Just look to largest software company our Dear M$. it has probably the best programmers, biggest budgets to come up with software’s which suppose to function perfectly . However, it ends up always with upgrades, missing futures. In fact most of the software companies existing because of the deficient’s of M$

However I have seen complain issues which leads that the WM6 seems a crap but many user here do not observe those issues at all. In my previous upgrades to AKU 2.0 ; 3.3, 3.5 etc. I have observed that one same ROM after installation seem really making a lot problem but after reflashing it next time the ROM looks and operates great. Therefore, I have learned to flash a new ROM at least twice before installing my applications.

Talk about application software. Most of the current application software versions are not ready for WM6 therefore some of them giving trouble for entire OS and slowing down or leading miss functions.
Furthermore, all the available WM6 ROMs are routed from only 1-2 different basic version of WM6. Therefore major differences of those based mostly by Reg. tweaking by each cookers.

Well what I am trying to say here is: a child has to learn working before running. It needs support, experience in order to archive running ability. Therefore, peoples testing and feedbacks will lead that this child will run really super fast. At least the first indications are obvious for that.

[hdubli]

Nuclear, you were in on the other thread on this subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291291
I don't think this thread adds much to that debate.

I can say from personal experience that I have a friend that has been running the roms on various devices for several months continuously, for low level development, Live instant messenging for 6 hours daily, web browsing over wifi (with Picsel), and general phone use, and never found it to have any significant negative side effects.

In fact, getting rid of the HTC Phone Skin and replacing it with the new default dialler improved the speed of the device so much that he would never go back.

Frankly, with the ability to make custom roms, even if the Crossbow leaks end here, there's still a great deal to be happy with right now.

You've been complaining about the wifi problem for a while.
My friend doesn't find it to be crippling, but I advise him to use VJVolubilis for this anyway, or just the CommManager. The functionality could be hacked back in if required, although it's hardly worth the effort for one extra click.

He's not noticed any major incompatibilities, although he tends to write his own stuff anyway, and no noticeable memory leaks with the default system.

He's also never noticed any peculiar password issues. ActiveSync always worked fine. Maybe he's not been exposed to the problems you've experienced, and this may be due to differences in builds, but in his opinion, even the existing Crossbow leaks are more pleasurable to use then the normal WM5 roms. It's not a major advancement, mostly cosmetic as far as most non-developers are concerned, but still enough improvements to make it worth experiencing at least.

V


I second on the above..WM 6 actually tempted be to go back to Universal..from Hermes..and so far in rough Indian conditions(Network Congestion,lots of GPRS bandwidth sharing, huge voice traffic during peak hrs etc etc) my Uni is performing to its best.I wud really like to thank for all who are involved in WM 6..

[AlanJC]

Nuclear, just some friendly advice. If I were you I would just stop.

There we go, fixed ;) :D

[vijay555]

Sorry, I know that this is WAY off topic, but still:
http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert20071832660125.gif

V

[AlanJC]

Sorry, I know that this is WAY off topic, but still:

V

OK, fixed, and on topic ;)

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/8679/dilbert20071832660125fidv5.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[mig1401]

I have PDAviet version and everything is working fine including voice comand and speed dial. All programs i had in wm5 are working

[Perazzi]

In my opinion (and I am using Indra's version), the current state of WM6 for the Universal device is excellent, and while still not perfect, way better than any of the officially released roms.

Hi,

where can I get Indras WM6 Version. I thought it did not come out yet. Can you give me the Link to this Rom Version please?

Thank you...

[Midget_1990]

now try using wm6 on a G4 version of HTC Universal, makes all the difference in the world :) (trust me, i have g3 and g4 :P )

[kevin.jiang]

I have been using Midget's WM6 ROM for over a week and it works for me! No real problem, me I don't miss video call since not many of my friends got it anyway, WM6 fix my SIP problem, all my major programs work so far. Only thing I would like to fix is the occasional hang after a soft reset.

The new Windows Live is great, spead is great, new icons/graphic is great, no real memory leak observed, no problem with ActiveSync 4.2/4.5 nor Vista, having to turn off Wifi in commgr is not the end of the day. I tried the PDAVIET WM6 ones but could't get my AvantGo 6.2 work on it for love nor money. I am sticking to Midget's WM6 ROM for now and waiting for Helmi's new release!!
;)

[richardlai]

now try using wm6 on a G4 version of HTC Universal, makes all the difference in the world :) (trust me, i have g3 and g4 :P )

Just out of interest, how can I find out which version is my Vodafone V1640?

[SpyderTracks]

Bootloader version 2.1 = G4
Bootloader version 1.x = G3 :)

[mwang]

Nuclear, you were in on the other thread on this subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291291
I don't think this thread adds much to that debate.

I can say from personal experience that I have a friend that has been running the roms on various devices for several months continuously, for low level development, Live instant messenging for 6 hours daily, web browsing over wifi (with Picsel), and general phone use, and never found it to have any significant negative side effects.

In fact, getting rid of the HTC Phone Skin and replacing it with the new default dialler improved the speed of the device so much that he would never go back.

Frankly, with the ability to make custom roms, even if the Crossbow leaks end here, there's still a great deal to be happy with right now.

You've been complaining about the wifi problem for a while.
My friend doesn't find it to be crippling, but I advise him to use VJVolubilis for this anyway, or just the CommManager. The functionality could be hacked back in if required, although it's hardly worth the effort for one extra click.

He's not noticed any major incompatibilities, although he tends to write his own stuff anyway, and no noticeable memory leaks with the default system.

He's also never noticed any peculiar password issues. ActiveSync always worked fine. Maybe he's not been exposed to the problems you've experienced, and this may be due to differences in builds, but in his opinion, even the existing Crossbow leaks are more pleasurable to use then the normal WM5 roms. It's not a major advancement, mostly cosmetic as far as most non-developers are concerned, but still enough improvements to make it worth experiencing at least.

V

VJ , I am with you ,I dont think we can get official WM6 for Uni , same as BA for MW5 that time , up right now all WM5 rom for BA just made by here , didnt see any rom from HTC or MS, we can find Hermes,Wizard or Excalibur's WM6 rom from HTC but didnt see for Uni rom , if we didnt got this leaked rom ,maybe we will not see WM6 Uni rom at all,so I will said we are lucky had WM6 Uni rom :D

[cdgoin]

So far I have had a few problems with the PDAViet version (2.04 I Think)

Biggest problem is random locking up of the thing.. driving me nuts. Heard it maybe because of the 1.14 radio I also installed. I also have installed Netfront 3.3 and SPB powertools on it.. (Could they be the problem.. no.. of course not.. because I cant live without them.. So they couldnt be the problem :)

Anyway luck with 1.14 has been much better reception (for me), but everyone says its hard to hear me.. nothing new.. as a phone my MDA Pro has been for the most part a joke since I got it last year.

So I am going to go and try Helmis version and Radio 1.09 or 1.13

Why? Because I like messing with it.. #2 is because in only a day or two of using it I love the new outlook with html email. (Especially in very small text and using calibri font).. I like my mini-laptop/Brick phone.. I like more trying to make it better thanks to all here.

But the real answer to your question is the WM6 has a LOT of new features that are more than just "pretty"... most of all is the new Outlook. If only pocket IE had half the features of Netfront 3.3 we would be in business.

[SpyderTracks]

May be worth checking out Jwrightmcps new release... on first tests it's very impressive on all counts, and combined with Radio 1.13, I'm getting a lot more signal at home where signal is usually very poor.

It's definitely a step closer!

[cdgoin]

Anyway to unzip it and use bootloader to install? I cant wait for the T-mobile version. Not to mention I hate the Tmobile colors and stuff..

[SpyderTracks]

Anyway to unzip it and use bootloader to install? I cant wait for the T-mobile version. Not to mention I hate the Tmobile colors and stuff..

There are directions in the thread to find the temp folder in which it unzips to. Just run the exe file without phone attached and then navigate to that folder mentioned in the thread and you can extract the .nbf files from there.