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ThomasPP
9th February 2007, 09:22 AM
Hey there!
I have installed Some of helmi_c ROMs (AKU 3.5 beta 13, WM6) and I'm always facing the same problems with the UserAgent. The first thing I noticed was that if I create a new connection (Celularline 3G) and I connect to the Internet I don't see a "3G" connection symbol in the taskbar but only a "G". This wasn't so with my last ROM (German 1.30.96)
Now to the main problem:
My cellular network provider in Austria is "Three". To get to their mobile internet zone called "Planet3" I have to change the UserAgent Default="Nokia6680" so the server thinks I am this cell phone and then I can watch the content. This works with all ROMs I found at the FTP server, except those from helmi_c (those I've tested). I also tried a ROM from Ivan (AKU 3.2) and this worked.
Now I want to switch to WM6 but it doesn't work.
I hope you guys can help me!
Best regards
Tom
apd
9th February 2007, 03:35 PM
Hey there!
I have installed Some of helmi_c ROMs (AKU 3.5 beta 13, WM6) and I'm always facing the same problems with the UserAgent. The first thing I noticed was that if I create a new connection (Celularline 3G) and I connect to the Internet I don't see a "3G" connection symbol in the taskbar but only a "G". This wasn't so with my last ROM (German 1.30.96)
Now to the main problem:
My cellular network provider in Austria is "Three". To get to their mobile internet zone called "Planet3" I have to change the UserAgent Default="Nokia6680" so the server thinks I am this cell phone and then I can watch the content. This works with all ROMs I found at the FTP server, except those from helmi_c (those I've tested). I also tried a ROM from Ivan (AKU 3.2) and this worked.
Now I want to switch to WM6 but it doesn't work.
I hope you guys can help me!
Best regards
Tom
The answer to the first problem is simple - almost all of the AKU 3.5 / WM6 ROMs on this site specifically say that they don't support the change of that little icon from G to 3G and vice versa. You should see the main icon change from G to 3G, though.
Have you tried this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293375
ThomasPP
10th February 2007, 08:47 AM
Hello again!
Thanks for your help, I also found this thread and copied the dll file, now it shows the right icon... But this was only a side effect of the main problem.
I installed Netfront, and when I change the UserAgent in the program itself it works perfectly. So it must be a problem of PIE. You might ask, why I don't use Netfront overall? Well, the answer is simple, Netfront doesn't support to open a rtsp stream in the Streaming Player, and I want to watch the videos and TV programs on my Qtek.
So please helmi_c or someone else, help me to solve my problem!
I think this doesn't only affect me, but many others too.
Best regards
Tom
StevePritchard
10th February 2007, 09:15 AM
I'd be interested in the solution to the UserAgent problem too, if for no other reason than to make Google give me the standard page, rather than the PDA version.
Pocket IE in Crossbow with MultiIE installed is now my browser of choice over Opera 8.6, but it is a bit of a pain that I can't seem to change the UserAgent, despite altering a number of settings in the registry.
Cheers,
Steve
sub69
10th February 2007, 11:05 AM
Can't help with the user agent thing, but for Google, you can use the following address to get "full" Google on a PPC without any registry edits...
http://www.google.com/webhp
ThomasPP
12th February 2007, 10:24 AM
Still need some help plz!
I can limit this problem to the PIE, so does anyone know why the phone ignores the UserAgent? What registry key can I change in addition sot that the phone sends the right UserAgent?
best regards
Tom
ThomasPP
23rd February 2007, 03:29 PM
*push*
no solution now... plz help!
PAPPL
9th March 2007, 08:18 AM
Same problem on HTC TyTn with AKU3.3+.
Maybe the PIE doesn't send the User Agent, or the wrond User Agent.
How can we read out the User Agent String in the sent information?
stualpha
10th March 2007, 03:49 PM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290818
this thread may be of some help
PAPPL
12th March 2007, 12:15 PM
No doesn't help, tried like posted in this thread, but still the same.
It is 99% the PIE which doesn't send the User Agent, because with older ROM it works again, and with Netfront too.
PAPPL
13th March 2007, 05:55 PM
There is really a bug in PIE on AKU3.3 and as i heard on WM6 too in german forum.
Here the Standard User Agent Setting:
Cache-Control: max-age=259200
Connection: keep-alive
Via: 1.1 proxy.google.com:80 (squid)
Accept: text/html, application/xhtml+xml, image/png, image/tiff, image/jpeg, image/gif, image/bmp, text/plain, application/pdf;q=0.1, application/zip;q=0.1, application/msword;q=0.1, application/vnd.ms-excel;q=0.1, application/wordperfect, application/x-wordperfect, application/wpwin, application/x-wpwin, */*;q=0.1
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1, UTF-8, *;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip
Accept-Language: en-us
Host: www.fiddlertool.com
Referer: HYPERLINK http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/04/27/412813.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/04/27/412813.aspx
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Google Wireless Transcoder
X-Forwarded-For: deleted, unknown
ASPNET's HTTPBrowserCapabilities object reports that based on the User-Agent, your Browser has the following capabilities:
Type = IE6
Name = IE
Version = 6.0
Major Version = 6
Minor Version = 0
Platform = Win2000
Is Beta = False
Is Crawler = False
Is AOL = False
Is Win16 = False
Is Win
32 = True
Supports Frames = True
Supports Tables = True
Supports Cookies = True
Supports VBScript = True
Supports JavaScript = True
Supports Java Applets = True
Supports ActiveX Controls = True
Here with changes made to Registry at User Agent-String:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Current Version\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent\
Default changed to another value e.g. Nokia
Cache-Control: max-age=259200
Connection: keep-alive
Via: 1.1 proxy.google.com:80 (squid)
Accept: text/html, application/xhtml+xml, image/png, image/tiff, image/jpeg, image/gif, image/bmp, text/plain, application/pdf;q=0.1, application/zip;q=0.1, application/msword;q=0.1, application/vnd.ms-excel;q=0.1, application/wordperfect, application/x-wordperfect, application/wpwin, application/x-wpwin, */*;q=0.1
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1, UTF-8, *;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip
Accept-Language: en-us
Host: www.fiddlertool.com
Referer: HYPERLINK http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/04/27/412813.aspx http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/04/27/412813.aspx
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Google Wireless Transcoder
X-Forwarded-For: deleted, unknown
ASPNET's HTTPBrowserCapabilities object reports that based on the User-Agent, your Browser has the following capabilities:
Type = IE6
Name = IE
Version = 6.0
Major Version = 6
Minor Version = 0
Platform = Win2000
Is Beta = False
Is Crawler = False
Is AOL = False
Is Win16 = False
Is
Win32 = True
Supports Frames = True
Supports Tables = True
Supports Cookies = True
Supports VBScript = True
Supports JavaScript = True
Supports Java Applets = True
Supports ActiveX Controls = True
As we can see the User Agent is still Mozilla/4.0, even if changing all Mozilla-Strings to Nokia, always sending Mozilla/4.0. The User Agent seems to be written constantly to one of the IE-Files in Windows Directory. Can some developer change the 4 hidden files beginning with IE in Windows-dir to ones from Trinity-ROM or AKU2.3-ROM? There it's working.
This is the sent User Agent when Registry Key change is working and sent correctly. Shown as Echo at http://fiddlertool.com/useragent.aspx
Your browser sent the following headers:
Connection: Keep-Alive
Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/x-ms-application, application/vnd.ms-xpsdocument, application/xaml+xml, application/x-ms-xbap, application/x-shockwave-flash, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/vnd.ms-powerpoint, application/msword, */*
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
Accept-Language: de-at
Host: fiddlertool.com
User-Agent: Nokia (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.0.04506; InfoPath.1)
UA-CPU: x86
________________________________________
ASPNET's HTTPBrowserCapabilities object reports that based on the User-Agent, your Browser has the following capabilities:
Type = Unknown
Name = Nokia
Version = 0.0
Major Version = 0
Minor Version = 0
Platform = WinNT
Is Beta = False
Is Crawler = False
Is AOL = False
Is Win16 = False
Is Win32 = True
Supports Frames = False
Supports Tables = False
Supports Cookies = False
Supports VBScript = False
Supports JavaScript = False
Supports Java Applets = False
Supports ActiveX Controls = False
The User Agent can be read out here: http://fiddlertool.com/useragent.aspx
PAPPL
23rd March 2007, 06:59 PM
A solution is here for making the User Agent changeable again with AKU3.3+, maybe for Universal too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1184509#post1184509
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