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Khael
10th February 2007, 03:53 PM
Hi!
i have a tytn with a big problem; in fact it does not start, it is blocked in the start page (them with Htc logo).
I try to reset it some times and also to change battery!
I cannot do an hard reset beacuse i have some data in the pda!
If i put it on bootloader mode is possible to recover it (only some data?)
tks
khael

fone_fanatic
10th February 2007, 05:26 PM
Ok, here's what you need to do...
1)Open your hood and check that battery connection, if thats good then proceed.
2)Check all your spark plug wires and make sure they're all fastened properly and no cracks/tears in them that would be causing them to short out. If they are good then maybe you should pull one out and see if its clean, soaked, or got some burns on it(make sure if u check a plug, then you return it to the same cylinder). If they are clean then go on, if not, replace them.
3)Check your airfilter. If dirty clean/replace it.
4)Check your fuel delivery system. If its fuel injected then give your fuel rails a visual inspection, if you've got an asian/import and the fuel rails are well exposed and you've got some knowledge of working on cars, go buy a fuel injector tester, doesn't cost much it'll tell u if any of your fuel injectors need to be cleaned or replaced.
4)Check your oil. Make sure its at a safe level and not too dark.
5)Radiator, open the cap and check your coolant, make sure its the color it should be(some use green coolant, and some use red). If its got oil mixing with it then youve got a..... wait, we're talking about phones!!

Have you tried to start it without a mem card? maybe its trying to start up a corrupt app from the memcard or something similar. If you have tried that or don't have a memcard then i'm sorry to say, yes the only option i see for you is to start it in bootloader and flash your device or hard reset it, and yes if you can't turn it on then your gonna loose the data on your device. Don't worry you don't understand how many times i've lost data from my device from having to hard reset... it sucks, i know, if you need a shoulder to lean on, then all xda-dev is here for you.

Khael
10th February 2007, 07:04 PM
also without the memory the pda doesn't start...
But in bootloader mode is impossible to read the file?!

Khael
11th February 2007, 04:40 PM
Upp!
can someone help me?

duman95
11th February 2007, 05:41 PM
Some one posted this and it worked on my wizard. Tap the screen every 3 4 seconds. Worked for me.

fone_fanatic
11th February 2007, 06:13 PM
Some one posted this and it worked on my wizard. Tap the screen every 3 4 seconds. Worked for me.


just curious, but what does this do?

Khael
12th February 2007, 02:35 PM
..
do you think that is a solution?
Now i try...but i don't think that function!

Khael
12th February 2007, 02:38 PM
no....
the pda don't start...
But in bootloader mode is impissible to recovery some data?
I need only a few documents that are on the My Documents folder!
Please help me!
I'm without telephone because i can't do an HardReset ... them documents are so important!

Applestar
12th February 2007, 02:39 PM
You DO NOT see the "Windows Mobile" screen? It HANGS at the "HTC" screen already?

Guy, what did you do before? Some ROM flashing? Radio flashing?

Khael
15th February 2007, 12:10 PM
Hi!
The pda freeze on HTC logo.... i can't see "Windows Mobile"!
I reset the pda because i was using Opera and freeze...
I wasn't flashing Radio or Rom!
Sorry for my bad English :(
I think which with an Hard Reset the Pda start, but i can't lose the documents.
They are so important.
Is possible to recover it?
If i put it on boot loader mode, and do a backup of the rom?
I can't recover the document?
Please help me...
Tks
Simone

Khael
16th February 2007, 01:16 AM
upp!!
nobody can help me?

Khael
16th February 2007, 07:17 PM
Why i don't receive an answer?
Is impossible to do it?
tks
khael

girolamino
17th February 2007, 03:52 PM
hi (sorry for my poor English - I'm italian)
I have the same problem: I need to save some data but my handheld does not boot up.
When I installed tomtom 5.21 my handheld does not respond to any imput so I soft reset it and...
:mad:
the system freeze at the bootlogo after rom informations.

1. I am hounting the way of connecting to device with "active usb kitl mode" (pwr button + comm manager, stylus reset) and "platform builder 5.0" but the comunication seems to be impossible under this mode.
N.B.: ...but maybe some wrong parameter because I try the same procedure with a working handheld (qtek 9090) and kitl mode does'n permit access from platform builder. Through activesync the comunication is ok (but this mode is impossible if the target device does not boot up). So I thing that:
a. the comunication is impossible under handheld kitl mode or
b. I am unable to configure the connection parameter of platform builder 5.0

2. If I hardreset I will lose my data. Someone know what happened to my data if I install a differen rom, could I choose to keep my data???

thanks

girolamino
18th February 2007, 01:38 PM
successfull connection under kitl mode and PlatformBuilder5.
Now I can debug hermes200's bootup:
02/18/2007 13:28:46
[K :: KERNEL]
2ND Timestamp: 0x6a358e
!ERROR: NK!SC_CreateLocalView: failed opening "\windows\wince.nls"; error=2. Expect boot failure!
!ERROR: NK!SC_CreateLocalView: make sure "wince.nls" is present in your image.
Data Abort: Thread=839ce8ec Proc=802b3410 'filesys.exe'
AKY=00000003 PC=03f8e83c(coredll.dll+0x0002e83c) RA=03f8e814(coredll.dll+0x0002e814) BVA=04000000 FSR=00000007
Data Abort: Thread=839ce8ec Proc=802b3410 'filesys.exe'
AKY=00000003 PC=03f8e83c(coredll.dll+0x0002e83c) RA=03f8e814(coredll.dll+0x0002e814) BVA=04000000 FSR=00000007
Data Abort: Thread=839ce8ec Proc=802b3410 'filesys.exe'
AKY=00000003 PC=80016e5c(NK.EXE+0x00016e5c) RA=80016e3c(NK.EXE+0x00016e3c) BVA=03f31528 FSR=00000007
anyone has same problem?
how to put the missing wince.nls on my herm?

Khael
18th February 2007, 04:25 PM
ciao
sono anche io italiano ;)
a quanto pare nessuno riesce a darci una mano!
te come risolvi?
Per me non riuscire a recuperare i dati e' davvero un grosso problema!
Ciao
simone

bcooll
19th February 2007, 08:22 AM
Stesso problema,mi rimane con la scritta htc.Come faccio hard reset?Se schiaccio tasto dx,sx,reset mi va in boot.A questo punto nn mi interessa dei dati,basta farlo partire....una rom ufficiale da mettere su?

girolamino
19th February 2007, 12:17 PM
x bcooll
su herm 200
hardreset: premi i 2 tasti col segno "-" (quelli immediatamente sotto lo schermo) e mantenendoli premuti fai il reset con il pennino. Ti chiederà una conferma, per rispondere usa la tastiera
"-" (LEFT) + "-" (RIGHT) + STYLUS RESET
bootloader: "ok" (su fianco sinistro) + "power" e tenendo premuto fai il reset col pennino;
"OK" (LEFT SIDE) + "POWER" + STYLUS RESET
usb kitl: "ok" + "manager reti" (sotto tasto power) e tenendo premuto fai il reset col pennino.
"OK" (LEFT SIDE) + "COMM SWITCH" + STYLUS RESET

P.S.: se avessi trovato una rom ufficiale probabilmente sarei riuscito a ripristinare il palmare senza perdere i dati. Ma ora mi sono arreso ed ho compiuto il grande passo.
P.P.S: Mi sembra cortese scrivere in inglese dato che il forum è in inglese. Se lo vogliamo in italiano facciamocelo ma non rompiamo le scatole a xda developer

bcooll
19th February 2007, 01:11 PM
Grazie girolamino..........