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mtvn
14th February 2007, 11:17 AM
Since a lot of people don't pay attention to the announcement here is a reminder....

For those of you, who are still hoping that a cooked WM6 will be available to download from this site you can stop hoping now :) Your "favorite" Cooks won't be able to post any ROM, hosted by this site, doens't matter if it's WM5 or WM6.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=293

butus73
14th February 2007, 06:33 PM
For those of you, who are still hoping that a cooked WM6 will be available to download from this site you can stop hoping now :)

Is it really funny 4 u?

mouragio
15th February 2007, 02:42 AM
But if someone else hosts it?

There are a lot of people out there with webspace (me incluis).... so....

or is this too simple of a thought?

mtvn
15th February 2007, 03:35 AM
Is it really funny 4 u?

Yes, I am. Because some peeps and probably you too, have already announced that they will not use any ROM from any site. They will only use the ROM from the "Master Cook" here.

Do you want to RLOL?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1135447&postcount=13

You can stop hoping and praying now because you won't get any WM6 update for the Wizard or any older model from HTC. Most people already know that, but you probably still hoping :) I have no problem of using ROM from any Cook from any site. What would you do now? Keep on using the old ROM or "eat" your words and start to use the ROM from the so called "Non-Master Cook"? :D

rjgraves
15th February 2007, 05:20 AM
Don't expect an official update. This is the reply I received from HTC:

Thank you for your enquiry concerning the HTC P3600 mobile device.

Unfortunately we will not upgrade our current devices to include the Mobile 6 software.? However, there will be new devices out which will include the software.

Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html

Best regards,
HTC Support
callservice@htceurope.com
http://www.htc.com

There's the whole reason M$ has made the request....so OEM's can sell new devices instead of providing upgrades to existing devices. It's all in how much profit can they make from those of us that like the latest and greatest.

Ayle
15th February 2007, 05:47 AM
Since a lot of people don't pay attention to the announcement here is a reminder....

For those of you, who are still hoping that a cooked WM6 will be available to download from this site you can stop hoping now :) Your "favorite" Cooks won't be able to post any ROM, hosted by this site, doens't matter if it's WM5 or WM6.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=293
It's not only about the new Roms... This meant that everyroms will be taken down.... Man that sucks.....

demontefixo
15th February 2007, 06:08 AM
Since a lot of people don't pay attention to the announcement here is a reminder....

For those of you, who are still hoping that a cooked WM6 will be available to download from this site you can stop hoping now :) Your "favorite" Cooks won't be able to post any ROM, hosted by this site, doens't matter if it's WM5 or WM6.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=293M$'s position is truely sad. Guess it is time to look for a phone that will run a version of Linux... :(

--M

cg87
15th February 2007, 06:35 AM
By requesting to remove all roms from this site, M$ is basically killing this forum. People come here to test new updated roms on their phones. Now this really sucks. Now, is it possible to host roms elsewhere?

texasaggie1
15th February 2007, 06:37 AM
I guess I'll switch to a freakin symbian phone or ahh yes an IPHONE. This kind of crap really reminds me why I can't stand Microsoft! They are not just happy with getting our money.

mikaarce
15th February 2007, 07:00 AM
we knew from the very start about MS totalitarian rule, of course we can work something out, like "we worked"(esp. the great ROM cookers) to make better, faster, and more stable ROMs than MS has ever made, maybe someone is already working out a plan, working around the "system", so that the whole forum will still be alive

mouragio
15th February 2007, 07:02 AM
I think the cooks must deside for themselves... if they want to place the roms elsewhere; there is no real issue... if they don't, I think it is going to be a less interesting board, the xda-developers, unfortunatelly.

But I think mickey$oft will hunt down every place where the roms reside, so....

Rapsody
15th February 2007, 07:04 AM
I've never really liked Microsoft..*the only reason I don't run Linux is because my wife doesn't know much about it and we only have 1 computer now*..but it was bound to happen sooner or later. With things like people bricking the phones and the whole monopoly that Microsoft has. The only thing I hate is that Faria had upgrades planned for the 3.3. :(

But texasaggie, I couldn't bring myself to get an iphone. It cost too much for too little. I've just waiting around until a ppc starts to run Linux.

cg87
15th February 2007, 07:19 AM
I've never really liked Microsoft..*the only reason I don't run Linux is because my wife doesn't know much about it and we only have 1 computer now*..but it was bound to happen sooner or later. With things like people bricking the phones and the whole monopoly that Microsoft has. The only thing I hate is that Faria had upgrades planned for the 3.3. :(

But texasaggie, I couldn't bring myself to get an iphone. It cost too much for too little. I've just waiting around until a ppc starts to run Linux.

I guess torrents is the way to go. Since new roms comes very quickly and people would be more interested in the newest ones, torrents should able to stay alive until the next rom release.

enmatt
15th February 2007, 07:41 AM
M$ can go F themselves. BT everything, rapidshare, yousendit, megaupload or host it in some Cayman Island server. B@st@rds each & every one of the corporations.

BA_Flash_GOD
15th February 2007, 07:42 AM
hands down, you guys helped me through thick and thin so to all of you, noobs and developers alike, thanks for saving my nuts!!

Maybe M$ is just mad vista boched out :P

jocool
15th February 2007, 09:41 AM
Hope the cooks won't have to waste too much time playing hiding games instead of doing important work

Malik05
15th February 2007, 10:06 AM
i just downloaded all of them...lol little over 7GB worth!

myk_83
15th February 2007, 10:12 AM
Ok, I'm probably gonna get killed for saying something like this, but can't you guys give Microsoft a break?

First off, without Microsoft, computers wouldn't be where they are today, the internet wouldn't be as big as it is today and your Wizards wouldn't be around. Sure, maybe some other companies would have filled the void and developed their own programs and things, but it's hard for me to imagine the way Microsoft has gone about developing programs and then marketing them to every man and his dog being replicated by anyone else with the same degree of success.

There are other devices and mobile operating systems out there already. But how many of them can do all the things that a Windows Mobile device can? And how many of them do it as well as a Windows Mobile device?

We can shout at Microsoft all we like, and rip into them forever about wanting to get more money from us for buying new devices. But who really has control over their software? Can we download O2 ROMs direct from Microsoft? Do T-Mobile update their phones via Windows Update like Microsoft update Vista, XP, etc?

AKU's have been released to mobile operators, and new opearting systems (WM6) have been passed over too. It is up to the operators to adapt the software and release it to us, it's customers, or at the very least the device manufacturers.

Until ALL Windows Mobile devices get a lot more memory, and can support a whole host of drivers (that they'll never use but have to to be there to cover other devices), updated ROMs will only come from operators or handset makers. Microsoft provide them with the updates, and then go back to working on the next lot of updates or new system.

So maybe Microsoft is at fault for removing ROMs from sites like this. But the real fault, and something they should definitely look into, is the fact that the people who are able and willing to tweak and change their system to suit the hardware, aren't the people they're giving the software to.

I don't like it any more than you guys do. I've only been using the site for the last couple of months, and that's been a time of a lot of activity with all the excitement of WM6 ROMs popping up and also AKU3.3 ROMs released etc. I would love the site to stay open, so that the brilliant "cooks" in this community could continue their work and support us for free, while the people we paid just sit their doing nothing with Microsoft's hard work in updating the software. But I can also understand where they're coming from, and simply ask that you take a more critical view of the people most of us probably got our phones from (operators like O2, T-Mobile, Cingular etc.) before having a go at the people that provided us with fantastic, if slightly flawed, software that is still better than everything else that's out there.

If it wasn't, why would we still be using it?

P.S. Just give me time to my girlfriend how much I love her before you torture me to death? :o

Jago
15th February 2007, 10:52 AM
Basically taking down the ROMs from this site means moving the whole development projects to the "underground"!

There will be always a site to download the ROMs, only the legal aspcet will change and become (even more) questionable.

Sad, but true :(

See you again on some of the other sites...

Cheers,

Jago

ratcom
15th February 2007, 10:57 AM
this was posted over in the hermes forum

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/xdadevs/

I for one have signed up!

Rapsody
15th February 2007, 12:23 PM
Ok, I'm probably gonna get killed for saying something like this, but can't you guys give Microsoft a break?

First off, without Microsoft, computers wouldn't be where they are today, the internet wouldn't be as big as it is today and your Wizards wouldn't be around. Sure, maybe some other companies would have filled the void and developed their own programs and things, but it's hard for me to imagine the way Microsoft has gone about developing programs and then marketing them to every man and his dog being replicated by anyone else with the same degree of success.

There are other devices and mobile operating systems out there already. But how many of them can do all the things that a Windows Mobile device can? And how many of them do it as well as a Windows Mobile device?

We can shout at Microsoft all we like, and rip into them forever about wanting to get more money from us for buying new devices. But who really has control over their software? Can we download O2 ROMs direct from Microsoft? Do T-Mobile update their phones via Windows Update like Microsoft update Vista, XP, etc?

AKU's have been released to mobile operators, and new opearting systems (WM6) have been passed over too. It is up to the operators to adapt the software and release it to us, it's customers, or at the very least the device manufacturers.

Until ALL Windows Mobile devices get a lot more memory, and can support a whole host of drivers (that they'll never use but have to to be there to cover other devices), updated ROMs will only come from operators or handset makers. Microsoft provide them with the updates, and then go back to working on the next lot of updates or new system.

So maybe Microsoft is at fault for removing ROMs from sites like this. But the real fault, and something they should definitely look into, is the fact that the people who are able and willing to tweak and change their system to suit the hardware, aren't the people they're giving the software to.

I don't like it any more than you guys do. I've only been using the site for the last couple of months, and that's been a time of a lot of activity with all the excitement of WM6 ROMs popping up and also AKU3.3 ROMs released etc. I would love the site to stay open, so that the brilliant "cooks" in this community could continue their work and support us for free, while the people we paid just sit their doing nothing with Microsoft's hard work in updating the software. But I can also understand where they're coming from, and simply ask that you take a more critical view of the people most of us probably got our phones from (operators like O2, T-Mobile, Cingular etc.) before having a go at the people that provided us with fantastic, if slightly flawed, software that is still better than everything else that's out there.

If it wasn't, why would we still be using it?

P.S. Just give me time to my girlfriend how much I love her before you torture me to death? :o

lmao......

I can't call it tho. My main gripe with Microsoft is like I said, the monopoly that is ran. I have to buy 2 $100 disk for seperate computers...they things they can't control with other companies, they say fugg it and copy their own...the Zune sucks..lol. But all this was bound to happen. I'm just glad I got all I wanted saved on my computer.. *thumbs up*

Zzan
15th February 2007, 06:14 PM
This is really more the carriers and less MS. I personally don't think MS cared and probably would continue to not care except that they are getting pressure from the carriers.

The carriers are complaining to MS that users are ruining their phones and asking for warranty replacement (which is granted most of the time before in depth troubleshooting of the device is done) by flashing roms that they haven't approved. Bottom line is they are getting stuck with a larger amount of repair and replacement charges and then can only resell the phones as refurbished.

MS is caving to the people that buy the OS and put it on their products. Blame the n00bs for not reading before they ruin (or think they ruin) their devices and then crying to their carrier saying it doesn't work. How many phones do you think Cingular or T-Mobile or whoever received that have a beer glass splash screen from the Button rom? How many with other carrier or custom splash screens? How many with different bootloaders, and radios than what the provider offers?

cg87
15th February 2007, 08:18 PM
This is really more the carriers and less MS. I personally don't think MS cared and probably would continue to not care except that they are getting pressure from the carriers.

The carriers are complaining to MS that users are ruining their phones and asking for warranty replacement (which is granted most of the time before in depth troubleshooting of the device is done) by flashing roms that they haven't approved. Bottom line is they are getting stuck with a larger amount of repair and replacement charges and then can only resell the phones as refurbished.

MS is caving to the people that buy the OS and put it on their products. Blame the n00bs for not reading before they ruin (or think they ruin) their devices and then crying to their carrier saying it doesn't work. How many phones do you think Cingular or T-Mobile or whoever received that have a beer glass splash screen from the Button rom? How many with other carrier or custom splash screens? How many with different bootloaders, and radios than what the provider offers?

By unlocking or flashing the device with a custom rom, the warranty is voided. The carriers or manufacture DO NOT have to repair or replace the device. So your argument is not valid.

chaas67
15th February 2007, 10:33 PM
By unlocking or flashing the device with a custom rom, the warranty is voided. The carriers or manufacture DO NOT have to repair or replace the device. So your argument is not valid.

+1 - This has more to do with M$ usual business tactics. They are looking to boost thier bottom line and the only way to do that is by selling more devices with a licensed OS... If M$ could build an OS that is 1/10th as good as some of the cookers around here I wouldn't mind but they don't and won't.

All in all - this sucks...

Zzan
15th February 2007, 11:17 PM
By unlocking or flashing the device with a custom rom, the warranty is voided. The carriers or manufacture DO NOT have to repair or replace the device. So your argument is not valid.

Many phones were replaced on warranty before the provider figured out that the warranty was voided.

In any case it is what it is, and life goes on.

Everyone is free to believe whatever makes them happy.

E-ducation
16th February 2007, 02:23 PM
maybe this post is out of context,and many people said smth similar but I must say this:

this forum is "responsable" for my addiction to HTC phones and WM platform!!!!
and i know many other people that think the same and they were infected by this forum...many of them would sell their PPCs with their lousy WM shipped ROMs if only there was no this forum with their programmers and enthousiasts that cooked something that worked better than original Microsoft products!

And even after all posts like mine they decided to protect their f.... rights!

well,it`s realy time for LINUX based phones,for me Microsoft has crossed the line!!!!!

P.S.

Keep up with the great work,guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THX for the work till now and hope to see more of you!

funman
16th February 2007, 05:28 PM
maybe this post is out of context,and many people said smth similar but I must say this:

this forum is "responsable" for my addiction to HTC phones and WM platform!!!!
and i know many other people that think the same and they were infected by this forum...many of them would sell their PPCs with their lousy WM shipped ROMs if only there was no this forum with their programmers and enthousiasts that cooked something that worked better than original Microsoft products!

And even after all posts like mine they decided to protect their f.... rights!

well,it`s realy time for LINUX based phones,for me Microsoft has crossed the line!!!!!

P.S.

Keep up with the great work,guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THX for the work till now and hope to see more of you!

It is already getting worked on!!!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=264755

Noonski
17th February 2007, 02:30 PM
I'm not much of the complaining kind.
I'd rather just start doing something. So without further Ado.....

faria-htc-wizard-aku3.3-page-pool-8mb.zip

is available on www.demonoid.com

Please reseed these Roms as they are small compared to the normal downloads and it's easy to do so and some people can not share all the Roms at the same time. In any community there are layers of responsibility. Some people make the Roms, some Upload the Roms, And some Reseed. Just downloading the Roms and not reseeding is not being part of a Community, thanks.

Rom distribution is now decentralised from XDA responsibility.
This first release seems to be open for everyone to download, but next release might be closed to Demonoid subscribers. Thus narowing down distribution to users that really want and know the risks they take using those Roms.

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I will take a look see, to see if i find ither Roms. But i can also help explaining how to get them Seeded. But hey if you aren't able to seed Roms then you should probaply not be installing Unofficial Roms.

(Funny how i'm still a junior member while using this site for at least for years, Maybe i'm not the posting kind of member)