Loox n5x0 series rom update

[sp3dev]

heh, i`ve researched on the loox n5x0 series (htc maria?) rom format. now we can create custom roms.
Loox n5x0 OS_xxxU.nbf header format
total 42 bytes header, the rest is not crypted os rom image (what we usually call nb0 or n_d)
4 bytes - model name (N500, N520 or N560) + 11 bytes empty (filled with 0x00) +9 bytes version (e.g. 1.22.0001) + 1 byte 0x20 (space) +3 bytes language (e.g. ENG, ITA, GER) + 2 bytes empty (0x0) +4 bytes - reversed crc32 checksum (if we have, for example, 1163FCED, then we write ED FC 63 11) + 4 bytes - size of decrypted part (reversed somehow? we have 2100000 and write 00001002) + 4 bytes - rom base flash address (seems it it 80400000, we type 00 00 04 80, don`t play with it)
all this is true for OS_yyyU.nbf ( yyy means rom version), bootloader nbf is coded otherwise, it is usually named BL_xxx_G3.nbf or bl_xxx_G4.nbf. xxx - bl version. I suppose you delete file bl_xxx_G4.nbf or bl_xxx_G3.nbf. new pda`s come with g4 flash, it will be killed with g3 update. and, anyhow, bootloader update is always dangerous and not recommended.
wait a bit - in some days i`ll post a tutorial how to extract os rom image from n500/n520 and probably n560 pda.

[Rafe533]

Any progress on this? I have a N560 and am very interested in your tutorial. Thanks.

[orbb39]

I am eager to update the software of my N560... I would like to try the new Windows mobile 6. It's pretty annoying that this really good device cannot be upgraded somehow..

Well, hope to hear something soon..


PS: By the way, you guys are great doing all this stuff ;)

[pash]

Is loox 5x0 == htc maria? Any prooves?

[sp3dev]

it's htc dresden)) i'll post aku 3.5.2 for c550/n560 this week

[orbb39]

Nice to hear this one!!!
Waiting for the goodie :cool:

Thank you man!!

[shimrob]

Any progress on this? I have a N560 and am very interested in your tutorial. Thanks.

I would also be very interested in upgrading my N560 to wm6.
I thank you in advance.

Shim

[sp3dev]

I would also be very interested in upgrading my N560 to wm6.
I thank you in advance.

Shim

No WM6 yet, but

http://4pda.ru/forum/attach/805977/n560.Alex_DFR_.AKU.3.5.2.rar - here is the rom with aku 3.5.2 for n560

For Loox C550
http://4pda.ru/forum/attach/808633/PocketLOOXC550FlashTool.7z - here is the flasher for c550, download it, download aku3.5.2 for n560, overwrite the files from the n560 update and open OS_213u.nbf with winhex and change n560 to c550

If you have german/french/italian/spanish pda but want to use this update, edit the nbf with winhex and change ENG to FRA/GER/ITA/SPA

Be sure to remove the password (fsc secure lock) before flashing

[shadowcaster]

getting my n560 ready to flashing... go-go-go! :)

[orbb39]

I have a spanish N560 pda. I wanted to upgrade its rom.

I did everything as indicated:

- open pda and put it in the cradle
- connect cradle to the power and the usb to my WinXP laptop
- in my XP machine activesync (4.5 spanish version) connects and recognizes my pda
- check there is no password protection in the pda (there was none before)
- unpack n560.Alex_DFR_.AKU.3.5.2.rar and open with WinHex OS_213U.nbf; change ENG to SPA; save file
- execute PocketLOOX5xxFlashTool; in the end I get this error:

"The language in this Flash Image update () differs from that on your device (SPANISH)!"
:mad: :mad:
Well, I did again and again and again... same error...
Any suggestions??? :confused: :confused:

PS: I would like to put its new rom in english, if it's possible!


Thank you

[Robby69]

Hi sp3dev,

your update is quite intersting but I have two questions before I want to flash:
1. is the ROM affected by flashing your image, if flashing fails, can the N560 hard reset to original state?
2. Is there a tool which can fetch a complete image from N560 (with ROM)?

Can you give us a short info how you cook the image?
Where do you get the HW depended drivers (e.g WLAN, display..)?
Do you have any links? I have looked a long time
to find any info about upgrade the N560 or cooking Loox images.

Thanks

[thanhthanh50]

SPAschreiben not so, but ESN. then is OK ONE

[thanhthanh50]

I have with these Romes update. All OK ONE

[kalimotxo]

Hi sp3dev and everyone,

I did the upgrade and it went fine, the only thing was that the keyboard was English, I thought there were all in the ROM, and I wanted to get back to the first ROM, so and here comes my problem, I executed

pdocwrite nk.nb0 0 0x2300000

The result of this is that it get stucked at the very first screen, Is there any way to get back? How could I upload a ROM to the N560 in this case?


Thanx

[Smarja]

Hi,
so how it looks with WM6 ROM. It will be great to have WM6 on my N560 :)

[sp3dev]

Hi,
so how it looks with WM6 ROM. It will be great to have WM6 on my N560 :)

Oh, i don`t know. we have xip with all wm6 modules but wm6 doesn`t boot yet. When we fix, and if we do, i`ll inform everyone

[oNNoZeLe]

I did the upgrade yesterday eve, but i am missing the remote desktop client..

can't seem to find any link.. mtssc or any.. i looked in the windows folder but couldn't find it.

Anyone a hint?

[Slairde]

I did the upgrade yesterday eve, but i am missing the remote desktop client..

can't seem to find any link.. mtssc or any.. i looked in the windows folder but couldn't find it.

Anyone a hint?

It's not there due to a bug. Likewise the transcriber does not work and hangs the system.

I suggest waiting until they fix it and upgrade then, if it is vital for you. I will wait for two reasons: it is probably buggy yet (only two known bugs now though), and I am loath to re-install everything from scratch for the next couple of weeks ;)

Besides, people experiment there with pool size (with some trade-off in RAM) which may yield an even faster machine.

Also if you upgrade, you must not use an old (all-)system backup. Just re-install everything single piece of software you use. Note that some software may lose its registration since you will have a *different* PPC with new (and unofficial) ROM.

... and "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" remember? :)

[kalimotxo]

Hi sp3dev,

I thought that in AKU 3.5.2 WPA2 was supported. If I'm right this is supported since AKU 3.5. After upgrade I noticed it wasn't in this release. Is it a mistake? or I'm really wrong.

[oNNoZeLe]

and "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" remember?

True, but i can't rembemer not installing any MS beta ;-)

And if someone posts a wm6 rom here, i won't be the first to try but might be second or third :D

Maybe my intention was to notify but wrote my text wrong.. :confused:

i do like the rom..

[Tim.CA]

sp3dev Do you have any news about WM6 rom progress for N560?. I can't wait to test it.

[Smarja]

Fujitsu says that there will be no wm6 update for N560 :( So it will be really superb if you can make this ROM!!!!

[nurotic]

Hi has there been any progress on a WM6 rom for pocket loox?

[owilsky]

I understand that I can backup my current ROM with pdocread 0 0x2300000 nk.nb0
But as I understand, this nk.nb0 cannot be flashed back because the header is missing, right?

So I know how the header must be:

Header: 4 first bytes are the model (N520, N500, N560). Then 11 empty bytes. Then 9 bytes are the version number (like 1.22.0001). Then one byte is 0x20. Then 3 bytes language (ENG, GER, ITA). Then 2 empty bytes. Then 4 bytes checksum of the nb0 file but backwards (like checksum is: 1163FCED then we put in ED FC 63 11). Then 4 bytes unencrypted space size but backwards (like typical 2100000 will be 00001002). Then 4 bytes are the starting address of the flashing but backwards (like typical 80400000 will be 00 00 04 80)

But where do I get these information:
- What version number do I need? (like 1.22.0001)
- How do I get the checksum? Is this the checksum before modifieing the header?
- What's "unencrypted space size" and how do I get that info?
- "starting address of the flashing" is ALWAYS 80400000?

Thanks for any info.

[owilsky]

One more question:

I have a German Loox n560. As I understand I can flash the inofficial upgrade if I change "ENG" toi "GER" with a hex editor. But then I will have an English language ROM on my Loox? Or are these international ROMs?

[orbb39]

After you flash the new rom changing the ENG to GER, the new software will be in english. Also the keyboard will be english.
I did it for me from spanish (ESN) and right now is in english..but certainly works better than the previous..It looks more responsive to me :)

Good luck

[gforums]

Hello!

I have the same questions as owislky..:

- how to get the checksum of the rom, the space size information and the starting adress?

I have made a dump of my german rom before putting the eng. unofficial upgrade on my loox. but without a working header I can't reflash it back...


thanks anyone who know more!
Christian

[gforums]

Hello!

- I got the right checksum calculated now and everything seemed to be fine but my loox is dead now. I don't know why.

I have dumped my german original rom and added te correct header.

The flash tool copied the image file witout warning and the rom was extracted on the loox.

The loox bootloader shows 2 progress bars.
the first one was fully loaded (blue),the second was about 1/10 blue, when it jumped to full blue with one step.
After that, the loox display had turned off, the flash software's progress bar still moved a bit, when an error message appeared: connection to loox lost...

that's it.

anyone know why this could occur??

thanks,
Christian

[jani51]

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The language in this Flash Image update (ENGLISH) differs from that on your device (DEUTSCH)!

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If he is a yes then I would say thanks for it.
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[-SKYLINE-]

sp3dev, just pm-ed you to see if you can look into BT 2.0 on the N560. Further details in the PM.

[fabienk]

i did a backup of my N560 french WM5 Rom ( pdocread 0 0x2300000 nk.nb0 )
http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=B63UQ2AR
is someone can confirm me if my backup will be ok to reuse for a downgrade ( pdocwrite nk.nb0 0 0x2300000 )
Thanks for any info

[master2048]

i did a backup of my N560 french WM5 Rom ( pdocread 0 0x2300000 nk.nb0 )
http://www.megaupload.com/fr/?d=B63UQ2AR
is someone can confirm me if my backup will be ok to reuse for a downgrade ( pdocwrite nk.nb0 0 0x2300000 )
Thanks for any info

First of all I don't think "pdocread 0 0x2300000 nk.nb0" will give you a right backup on French rom. That's for backup original Eng rom.

Please try:
1, use "pdocread -t" to find out your rom size. After command executed, a message will indicate "real nr of sectors"
2, using that number(should be the biggest one) to replace # in "pdocread 0 0x###### nk.nb0"

Then upload the file again for someone to verify.
Good luck

[oNNoZeLe]

I have been using the wm6 rom with GPRS for a week now.

Works very fast..

I hoped that @ microsoft they woulf have made the calender a bit better, i find it still a little not friendly. So i still need a alternative app for this..

I find that there is no change is gps fix, but that is somewhat logical. :D

How are others experiencing this rom?

[palotex]

i did a backup of my N560 spanish WM5 Rom ( pdocread 0 0x2300000 nk.nb0 )
i try this:
1, "pdocread -t" to find out my rom size. After command executed, a message will indicate "real nr of sectors" the result was :

real nr of sectors: 71680 - 35.00Mbye (0x2300000)

2, using that number(biggest one) with "pdocread 0 0x****** nk.nb0"

using winhex i read the file,and this is ...

00001490 4E 35 36 30 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 N560............
000014A0 32 2E 31 33 2E 30 30 20 45 53 4E 00 00 00 00 00 2.13.00 ESN.....
000014B0 00 00 30 02 00 00 40 80 00 00 00 00 32 30 30 36 ..0...@€....2006
000014C0 2D 30 32 2D 32 31 00 00 00 00 00 00 A8 80 A0 E3 -02-21......¨€ ã

is this the right backup of my n560 rom?

if i want to reuse it, is this the right way?
pdocwrite nk.nb0 0 0x2300000

Thanks for any info


P.D. sorry about my poor english

[oNNoZeLe]

I just received a mail from computable..

FS is letting the PDA buss. go.. They're gonna focus on Core Buss. Laptops and tablets.. :mad:

So, there will never be a official wm6 release i guess..

I do like to say that i love my n560.. has almost everything..

Seems that developing your development is the only thing that will keep thing one running in the future..

[ubik]

Has anyone tried to setup a dialup connection from their N520 / N560 using a 3G connected mobile phone using the WM6 ROM (N560.C550.WM6.Pups.777_Team)?

I have a flashed FS N560 and a Nokia N95, and i've setup the connection on the PDA, but i cannot find a place to input the modem initialization string ! And it seems that it cannot connect without it :-((

Anybody know how to solve this?

Thanks!

[oNNoZeLe]

Is there a big difference between these builds?

17944.2.2.0
17944.0.3.1

When i download the 777 pups the rom size is the same?

And i am seeing a fully new release.. 18125.0.4.2 but that is for n520..

[Hellu]

Hello everybody! I have a loox N520 with spanish rom, and i want to change the language into ENG. Can someone pm me with the instructions, because i can't find anyware how to update N520 only N560!

[oNNoZeLe]

@Hellu

Check this thread:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320686

[oNNoZeLe]

Is there any info on a 18125 release for the N560?

I searched 4pda but there is only a recent 0.0.1. release for the 17944

greets..

[oNNoZeLe]

Howcome i cannot downgrade my 0.0.1. to 0.0.0?

Tried several times today but all without luck.

I am having some issues with the 0.0.1.

installing apps sometimes hangs, just leaves that double-quart-thingie..yellow-blue-red-greenish.? stuff like that..

[oNNoZeLe]

IR not working..

In have the pups_0.0.1. installed on my n560 but i cannot get IR working.. :mad:

Can someone confirm that this is a 'legal' issue? Or is it my ppc..

[moyua1]

Hello.
I have updated my n560 to wm6 pups 0.0.3 in English.
Somebody knows any way to translate it to Spanish.

As it can be done, has somebody managed to translate it to another languages??

Thanks.

[oNNoZeLe]

Search firstloox or 4pda or this site for the details that you need..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1459574&highlight=change+rom+language+loox#post1459574
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1353672&highlight=change+rom+language+loox#post1353672

[oNNoZeLe]

I did the 0.0.3 upgrade today. no problems so far..

And did the GPS fix update yesterday and it works like a charm.. a fix within 10 seconds.. :eek:

Nice:D

[ubik]

where did you get the 0.0.3 update?
could you use some sort of backup software to restore your settings?

what does that gps fix that you're talking about do?

thanks !!

i think i'm running 0.0.0 now :-)

[oNNoZeLe]

let's see..

0.0.3 and the rest (0.0.0 & 0.0.1)
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=50546

Thanks to 4pda and freepk.

And here's the GPSfix, quickfix.. There might be a session var in the link below but the download is on the regular downloadsite from FS.

http://download.fujitsu-siemens.com/Download/ShowDescription.asp?SoftwareGUID=3058C5DC-8CAC-46FF-928D-A62E46253450&OSID=CB706A19-7671-4137-AFF7-6BB915E16AC4&Status=True&Component=Application - Service Patch


Good luck..

PS i am not using any backup and restore software..just reinstall everytime.. and activesync..

[ubik]

thank you so much for the link!

i'm very tempted to upgrade but i hate having to reinstall all my software again :-)

i'll wait untill they release the "final" version than jump the wagon !

[royscheper]

The 0.0.3, means that we can choose which language we would like to install?

[oNNoZeLe]

The 0.0.3, means that we can choose which language we would like to install?

No, you should read more on these pages and perhaps on 4pda. you might want to check the n520 thread because language setting is not chosen but needs to be hex edited in the rom file.. try the search.

[mrnikt]

Sorry for lame question :)
pdocread 0 0x2300000 nk.nb0
Will this command executed with virgin new N560 give me complete, full N560 ROM backup ?

And what shall i do with the file I'll get .. it's extension is .*nb0. The flash file should be *.nbf


I'm affraid that the ROM that our Russian friends gives us is ... a little bit not OK.
1. Lost some BT options (no New Outgoing Port oprion)
2. BT is not discovering any other services than DialUp in othe devices.
3. Other devices discovers NO SERVICES in N560.

[oNNoZeLe]

Just a little note to let you all know that 0.0.4 has been posted.

As far as i can see only minor changes.

FYI

[stupsi99]

i flashed my n560 with wm6 version 003 and it works fine
bt, wlan and ir without problems

stupsi

update to 004 -> no problem :-)

[oNNoZeLe]

i just did the flash and am reinstalling apps right now..

no errors so far...:cool:

[Zebulon]

Hello evrybody,
i would like to know if this new firmware exist in French ?
And if it is possible du upgrade a french machine with an english firmware ?
Thank's...

[oNNoZeLe]

Hello evrebody,
i would like to know if this new firmware exist in French ?
And if it is possible du upgrade a french machine with an english firmware ?
Thank's...

You can upgrade to any language, if it exists..

I never heard anyone talking about a french rom but give search a try..

Search firstloox or 4pda or this site for the details that you need..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1459574&highlight=change+rom+language+loox#post1459574
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1353672&highlight=change+rom+language+loox#post1353672

[Ohly]

i just flash my Loox N560 and install the tool RealVGA with German Language.

I have two problems with the Flash 0.0.4, the first : Bluetooth don´t work with Active Sync. My PC discover the loox but don´t find any service an my SPB Plus 4.1 don´t want to work and freez my loox.

Over all;
It´s nice to have WM6 on my Loox und WM6 ist faster as WM5 (Programs and GPS)

Thanks to the russian guys how assamblet this!


Sorry for my bad english, i´am a german guy.

So long

Ohly

[Zebulon]

Hello...
I've try to flash my French Loox N560, but when i execute the file 'PocketLOOX5xxFlashTool.exe', i have an error message which said that i can't flash the loox because the languages are not the same.
(I use a french loox)

What can i do ?

Thank's a lot for your answers...

[Zebulon]

Yes...i succesfully update my N560.
Thank you very much to all.
Just one problem : after upadte my pim informations with an EXE file made with SPB Backup, the contacts application didn't work again, and i have to do a hard reset.

But i would like to know now, if there are others softs to install to have the best sat connexion, like AKU or InstantFix fos example ?

Zeb'

[rawmassen]

Hi,

What is a.k.u? Do I need to install it if upgrading to WM6?

Also, which OEM app archive is the correct one? MUI_OEM, or OEM?

[pruthvi]

Hi, does anybody let me know where to download wm6 for my loox c550. I tried 4pda.ru links but site is down:(.I would really appreciate any help.:)

[oNNoZeLe]

Hi, does anybody let me know where to download wm6 for my loox c550. I tried 4pda.ru links but site is down:(.I would really appreciate any help.:)

Have you googled for:
N560.C550.WM6.Pups.777_Team.0.0.4:confused:

[pruthvi]

Yes i did, wat all links i found were from 4pda.ru and the site is down.....i reallly appreciate if u know any site where i can get wm6 for my loox c550.:)

[oNNoZeLe]

Yes i did, wat all links i found were from 4pda.ru and the site is down.....i reallly appreciate if u know any site where i can get wm6 for my loox c550.:)

I think i still have the 0.0.4 somewhere around om my drive.. :eek:

If i find it i'll upload somewhere.

[pruthvi]

Thats very kind of u, thank u.

[oNNoZeLe]

Thats very kind of u, thank u.


i just uploaded mine to rapid, but the 4pda.ru is back online with a special 0.0.4. C550 rom.. check their site.

[pruthvi]

i just uploaded mine to rapid, but the 4pda.ru is back online with a special 0.0.4. C550 rom.. check their site.

Thanku very much oNNoZeLe, i really appreciate your help:)

[oNNoZeLe]

Is saw on 4pda that there is another rom out..
it's called:

img-72379-N560_WM6_016_net3_5_newplow

Has anyone tested this one?

I cannot read russian so this page (http://http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=50546&st=1230) is not clear to me..

If someone can read russian i would love to hear what the difference is with the newplow and freepk version.

thanks..

[oNNoZeLe]

i couldn't wait and flashed.. :D

[mickt]

Does the new firmware work with the old gps firmware or is it only for the updated gps firmware?

How is the update?
any major problems

[oNNoZeLe]

Does the new firmware work with the old gps firmware or is it only for the updated gps firmware?

How is the update?
any major problems

Can't talk about the old firmware.. cause i have the new..

But this rom is fast. no problem so far. i'll keep y'all up-to-date...

[leffetripel]

1. here is the link (http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php%3Fs%3D3d1dffd734d795dd6349cb1c780c938c%2 6showtopic%3D50546%26st%3D1260&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dn560%2Bwm6%2Brom%2B4pda%26hl%3Den%26s afe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DJBv)

2. how is the newplow rom? what's different from pups 0.0.4? :confused:

[oNNoZeLe]

1. here is the link (http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&u=http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php%3Fs%3D3d1dffd734d795dd6349cb1c780c938c%2 6showtopic%3D50546%26st%3D1260&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dn560%2Bwm6%2Brom%2B4pda%26hl%3Den%26s afe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DJBv)

2. how is the newplow rom? what's different from pups 0.0.4? :confused:

leffetripel,

usually i use babelfish but google indeed also does the trick.. But this way of translation does not always cover it..


Currently, i run into missing the setting to handle the mic! it is replaced with a applet that allows me to direct the souns to a specified port, which seems a very nice feature.

no other problems yet.

[ledrac]

Tried downloading the newplow ROM but the download times out. Besides the 4pda forum, is there another site where the ROM can be obtained. Tried google but 4pda is the only place its listed at this time. Which windows ce rom is this based on...WM 6.0 or 6.1?

[Zebulon]

Hello,
I would like to have a confirmation : is this file we have to download ?

wm6.017.net3.5.C550 ?

It is for the 550 and not for the 560, is it normal ?

[cyberking]

Hello,
I would like to have a confirmation : is this file we have to download ?

wm6.017.net3.5.C550 ?

It is for the 550 and not for the 560, is it normal ?

the wm6.017.net3.5.C550 is for FSC C550, the difference is that it hasn't the gps program builtin.

[Zebulon]

So, this file work for the N560 too ?

[erdbeer]

Have anyone information from the newplow image for N560?
What ist the difference from the pups 0.0.4 image?

[oNNoZeLe]

Have anyone information from the newplow image for N560?
What ist the difference from the pups 0.0.4 image?

1. is think it is faster
2. there are no MS live things installed
3. quickgps preinstalled
4. pwerifon preinstalled
5. i cannot seem to play any mp3's, but might be program I installed "afterwords problem"

these are the things that I can see in a few secs.

[-SKYLINE-]

(1) How much free program memory (RAM) do you have after a soft reset?
(2) In short, do you prefer newplow over Pups 0.0.4?

[Chilluminati]

Running the Pups 0.0.4 release of WM6 is just a charm on the N560 :)

First I've tried to use the newplow image, but there was no chance to get the GPS working! Now with the Pups image no problem running GPS. Language change with RealVGA to german works also fine :)

[oNNoZeLe]

(1) How much free program memory (RAM) do you have after a soft reset?
(2) In short, do you prefer newplow over Pups 0.0.4?

1. storage:55.93free and program 29.86 free
2. both are fine but not great. missing some bleutooth features that the axim driver had in wm5.

But it is fast, and that is a big plus. I think that if we give it some more time this rom wil evolve to a great one..

[-SKYLINE-]

1. storage:55.93free and program 29.86 free
2. both are fine but not great. missing some bleutooth features that the axim driver had in wm5.

But it is fast, and that is a big plus. I think that if we give it some more time this rom wil evolve to a great one..

Chilluminati mentioned something about GPS issues, have you encountered this problem on the N560? thanx

[oNNoZeLe]

Chilluminati mentioned something about GPS issues, have you encountered this problem on the N560? thanx

Maybe,

i had some issues with igo myway 2006, when closing the port was left open.

After re-opening the nav app it was unable to open the GPS port.

But i never tested another gps app, so i thought this was an isolated event/error.

[yannske]

Sry but where can i find the wm6 rom for the n560 ?!?!

[oNNoZeLe]

Sry but where can i find the wm6 rom for the n560 ?!?!

try reading thru this thread.. there are several links.:confused:

[master2048]

Hi oNNoZeLe,

Did you try any SDHC card on newplow's "N560_WM6.016.net3.5" rom, in another word:

1, Is it support to access SDHC by default?
2, Is wireless work together with SDHC?

Thanks

[master2048]

Hi oNNoZeLe,

Did you try any SDHC card on newplow's "N560_WM6.016.net3.5" rom, in another word:

1, Is it support to access SDHC by default?
2, Is wireless work together with SDHC?

Thanks

Well, answer to my own questions:
1, SDHC NOT SUPPORT YET.
2, N/A

plus,
N560_WM6.016's core is older(5.2.1437 Build 17944.0.3.8) than N560.C550.WM6.Pups.777_Team.0.0.4(5.2.1908 b18508.0.7.0)

so far The only big advantage is .net framework update to 3.5.7283
I suggest N560 users wait until next possibly release with kernel 5.2.1933 (build 17944.0.7.0)

[oNNoZeLe]

Well, answer to my own questions:
1, SDHC NOT SUPPORT YET.
2, N/A

plus,
N560_WM6.016's core is older(5.2.1437 Build 17944.0.3.8) than N560.C550.WM6.Pups.777_Team.0.0.4(5.2.1908 b18508.0.7.0)

so far The only big advantage is .net framework update to 3.5.7283
I suggest N560 users wait until next possibly release with kernel 5.2.1933 (build 17944.0.7.0)

N560_WM6.016's ->> is this the newplow version?

and i don't have any SDHC cards, so i wouldn't have been able to test it for you.

[master2048]

N560_WM6.016's ->> is this the newplow version?

and i don't have any SDHC cards, so i wouldn't have been able to test it for you.

Yes, "N560_WM6.016" refer to newplow's version.

And thanks, I've already flash newplow's "N560_WM6.016" onto my N560 (a risk loving manic :mad:). the result for SDHC is as above mentioned: NOT SUPPORT SDHC.

(I'm using a Transcend 4G Class6 SDHC card when perform the test)

[master2048]

One more comments:
newplow's "N560_WM6.016" version doesn't give a good performance in A2DP.
Hissing sound in all music background that used to fine when played in PC.

As a music lover, I used to use n560 as a wireless walkman (with help of a bluetooth stereo headset).

The build-in bt stack comes with the original WM5 image is rubbish! Many hissing sound (especial in high frequency human voice). The tweaks to registry (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=970796#post970796) helps a little bit but the WM6 image from Russian genius: N560.C550.WM6.Pups.777_Team.0.0.4 has a great improvement in the A2DP feature. After flash to it nothing need to be done you just have your wireless music very crystal and hard to tell if it's from a wired headset.

So be alert, if you're using wireless bt headset like me and have a sharp ear:)

[oNNoZeLe]

One more comments:
newplow's "N560_WM6.016" version doesn't give a good performance in A2DP.
Hissing sound in all music background that used to fine when played in PC.

As a music lover, I used to use n560 as a wireless walkman (with help of a bluetooth stereo headset).

The build-in bt stack comes with the original WM5 image is rubbish! Many hissing sound (especial in high frequency human voice). The tweaks to registry (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=970796#post970796) helps a little bit but the WM6 image from Russian genius: N560.C550.WM6.Pups.777_Team.0.0.4 has a great improvement in the A2DP feature. After flash to it nothing need to be done you just have your wireless music very crystal and hard to tell if it's from a wired headset.

So be alert, if you're using wireless bt headset like me and have a sharp ear:)

So it starts looking like that the 777_team rom is a bit better than the newplow.

although i have been running the newplow rom for several weeks (or months:confused:) i haven't really run into a issue for me.

I have been checking the 4pda forum for any development but no new releases yet.. too bad..

[oNNoZeLe]

reading about MS releasing the wm6.1,
me is hoping that someone will create a rom based on this release. :D

if i see any, i'll post it.

[mickt]

http://newplow.euro.ru/

[oNNoZeLe]

I installed the 030 release from newplow and am very pleased, works like a charm.

Newplow wrote his first experience on wm6.1 on his n560, can't wait until he starts release these roms..

:cool:

[cobrax3]

how about a rom for n520? :(

[oNNoZeLe]

how about a rom for n520? :(

yesterday I ran into some .cz (checz) forum that had some 520 wm6 roms.,

I am not in the office today, maybe I can find tomorrow..

[cobrax3]

thank you, please post the site if you can

[oNNoZeLe]

thank you, please post the site if you can

i found it,

But i haven't checked if the links still work.. So don't know if the downloads are valid..

http://mobile.ce4you.cz/forums/view_topic.asp?t=24723

[-SKYLINE-]

I installed the 030 release from newplow and am very pleased, works like a charm.

any issues with 030 so far? I can't read russian so i'm really looking forward to further comments and updates by others who can or are braver than me to try the new releases.

PS - on a side note. I recently dug up some info on the N560 Bluetooth hardware spec. The chip itself is only capable in 1.2 mode, so no hope of having a 2.0 update :(

[oNNoZeLe]

any issues with 030 so far? I can't read russian so i'm really looking forward to further comments and updates by others who can or are braver than me to try the new releases.

PS - on a side note. I recently dug up some info on the N560 Bluetooth hardware spec. The chip itself is only capable in 1.2 mode, so no hope of having a 2.0 update :(

Had a little glitch in the wireless manager, but had that only once..

And the "turn on" delay when shutdown with wifi ON. It take about a 1,5sec to switch on the screen...

Nothing else for the moment..

[cobrax3]

i found it,

But i haven't checked if the links still work.. So don't know if the downloads are valid..

http://mobile.ce4you.cz/forums/view_topic.asp?t=24723
nothing there :( only the same wm6 release
thx anyway

[aw3s0m3]

Hi folks,

OK so we've got WM6 awesome!
But there are a certain things i would like to be sure about. I guess i am not the only person. Some ppl already asked some good question but no answers at all..

Has anyone started something like Howto ?

I personally love my n560 and i don't want to brick it cause of some stupid mistakes.

Here are some things which i think are vital to know before starting..

1. Howto create a Working Backup of your WM5 Orginal rom and what Software you need for this? (For different languages)
2.Which ROM should be used (Your experience) Where to download them what tools you need for flashing? Any other important informations?

So .. I'd like to have this questions sorted before i try flashing my pda.

Thx already

[manfredX]

[QUOTE=master2048;2069475]One more comments:
but the WM6 image from Russian genius: N560.C550.WM6.Pups.777_Team.0.0.4 has a great improvement in the A2DP feature. After flash to it nothing need to be done you just have your wireless music very crystal and hard to tell if it's from a wired headset.

I'm using the 0.0.4 on my n560 with a sony DR-BT10CX but my bluetooth sound is crap, it say's stereo but it's coming over as dull mono. did you have to setup anything?

[sandiskuser]

Guys, how do I install the wm6.1 (30) rom?
What files should be downloaded from newplow's site and which one I need to run?
I need some instructions...
Thanks.

[-SKYLINE-]

it appears Newplow has released version 32 (http://newplow.euro.ru (http://newplow.euro.ru/)). and from what i can read using google translate, he's working on 6.1 in parallel to perfecting 6.0 versions. Anyone willing to give 32 a go? (i have to wait one more month before I can relieve my N560 from it's daily critical role)

another note: a new SDHC patch claiming to work with wifi for N560 has been posted in this xda-dev thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388364). Can anyone see if it works with the WM6 ROMs? Cheers

[zaxon]

is there C550 version of 32 ?

[-SKYLINE-]

my mistake, it appears 32 is not available for download yet. my russian is only as good as Google Translate :p

[master2048]

FYI, Now N560 have a better SDHC driver: supports using Wifi while enable SDHC.
I've tested on my N560 with WM6_016_net3_5_newplow's rom and it works smoothly so far.

I'll keep you updated if I find anything...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2162132

[ag43]

i've tried the sdhc patch so far everything great. i even think that my
wifi working is better (i dont know why but i can see the change)
tested on 0.0.4 pups

[master2048]

[QUOTE=master2048;2069475]One more comments:
but the WM6 image from Russian genius: N560.C550.WM6.Pups.777_Team.0.0.4 has a great improvement in the A2DP feature. After flash to it nothing need to be done you just have your wireless music very crystal and hard to tell if it's from a wired headset.

I'm using the 0.0.4 on my n560 with a sony DR-BT10CX but my bluetooth sound is crap, it say's stereo but it's coming over as dull mono. did you have to setup anything?

First of all, the sound quality is depends on your bluetooth headset too: How good it works when translate received signal into music. Let's assume DR-BT10CX is a nice one(try google for other user's opinion on its performance).

Second, here's my steps on enable N560 as a wonderful wireless music player:
1, pair your headset as usual. I'm using a Plantronics590, which supports stereo music playback as well as micro-phone.
2, The trick is only check "wireless stereo","headset" must unchecked(you may not have this option).This will make sure the system only use it for music play play not a mono hands-free etc.
3, then you could still try hold your stylus on your BT headset name inside the "Device" page. after the pop-up menu appear click on "Set as Wireless Stereo" item.
4, you all set! a headset icon: with a music note in between two little speaks should show up on the top of you screen.:)

Good Luck!

[master2048]

Hey guys, you really should try this out!

N560 ROM with build-in SDHC support for the first time of the world!!!

Introducing Mr. newplow's new WM6 rom ver32 :cool:
http://newplow.euro.ru/download.htm
I already flash my N560 from v31 to v32 and been very satisfied so far!

Improvements(by help of Google Tran):
30.04.2008
* Windows Mobile 6.0 version 032. Critical Update. Windows Mobile 6.0 version 032.
# Corrections in the system, operating system upgrade modules.
# SDHC Driver by GreateVK & FreePK included in ROM. SDHC Driver by GreateVK & FreePK included in ROM.
# Synchronize your PDA clock to Internet time server by GSoft.
# Several days will be available for download only version for FS Pocket Loox N560 which was placed update GPS.

[manfredX]

master2048 thanks for the reply, tried what you said and it just refused to connect stereo so i did a hard reset right back to bare wm6 and the sod is working now, ace. i had given up on it till you replied and that prodded me into looking at it afresh ,so thanks again m8.

o well now to reinstall everything,.................

[hendrixus]

Hey guys, you really should try this out!

N560 ROM with build-in SDHC support for the first time of the world!!!

Introducing Mr. newplow's new WM6 rom ver32 :cool:
http://newplow.euro.ru/download.htm
I already flash my N560 from v31 to v32 and been very satisfied so far!

Improvements(by help of Google Tran):

My Russian is not that good :D
So I use a translator to English (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnewplow.euro.ru%2F&langpair=ru%7Cen&hl=ru&ie=UTF8) I already upgaded my ROM. I have the impression it is eating up my battery rather fast.But it is blazing fast too.
I basically forgot to backup my old WM5 OM. Anyone? GOT IT from HERE (http://mobile.ce4you.cz/forums/view_topic.asp?t=24723) Is this an English version?

[oNNoZeLe]

My Russian is not that good :D
So I use a translator to English (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnewplow.euro.ru%2F&langpair=ru%7Cen&hl=ru&ie=UTF8) I already upgaded my ROM. I have the impression it is eating up my battery rather fast.But it is blazing fast too.
I basically forgot to backup my old WM5 OM. Anyone? GOT IT from HERE (http://mobile.ce4you.cz/forums/view_topic.asp?t=24723) Is this an English version?

You know what is even better,

someone has confirmed a 16gb sdhc card working.. 16. WOW..

gonna buy one for sure.. then no need for ram upgrade..
and that for 60 euro:D

[hendrixus]

You know what is even better,

someone has confirmed a 16gb sdhc card working.. 16. WOW..

gonna buy one for sure.. then no need for ram upgrade..
and that for 60 euro:D

Waarom gebruik jij nog release 030 als 32/33 er is
(why u use firmware 030 while 32/33 is available?)

[oNNoZeLe]

Waarom gebruik jij nog release 030 als 32/33 er is
(why u use firmware 030 while 32/33 is available?)

i am using the 032.. edited my signature.. :D

[hendrixus]

i am using the 032.. edited my signature.. :D

I think I am gonna try the o33 version. I have the idea 032 is "eating up" my battery way too fast.

I got the following info from newplow

"WM6.0 ver.032 OS 5.2.1938 (build 18538.0.7.0) with support SDHC
WM6.0 ver.033 OS 5.2.1948 (build 18548.0.7.0) without support SDHC
Planned soon
WM6.1 OS 5.2.19209 (build 18209.1.0.2) without support SDHC "

[hendrixus]

15.05.2008

last rom's from newplow see here (http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=ru&langpair=ru%7Cen&u=http://newplow.euro.ru/index.htm)

[hendrixus]

wOOW. all kinds of good tips for the N560 here (http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=ru&langpair=ru%7Cen&u=http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php%3Fs%3Da50b035cf032abd1c7bdfb70327d3615%2 6showtopic%3D44895%26st%3D0)

I just did a registery trick to get wifi-g :D

[fingerstoo]

Newplow has published (20 May) two WM6.1 images for standard SDs, one with GPS Fix patch built in and another without the patch. The release number is 018. Anyone tried them yet, please?

I am holding off until SDHC is supported....

[hendrixus]

Newplow has published (20 May) two WM6.1 images for standard SDs, one with GPS Fix patch built in and another without the patch. The release number is 018. Anyone tried them yet, please?

I am holding off until SDHC is supported....

No But I will :D If I can get it downloade from Rapidshare with those stupid cats in the code, sig!
So host this on megaupload or so. I really can't see cat or whatever!!!

from the forum

"As a result of exploitation firmware WM 6.1.018 revealed 2 - bug:
1. 1. not working properly built-mail client,
2. poor working Bluetooth headset and a headset.

. Over 1 - and the problem of working, although I did not enjoy either when mail client PDA.
2nd problem is fixed, it emerged because of an updated driver BT. Returned old driver and I have fully earned headset Samsung WEP210 and the reproduction and recording. The same driver was used in the firmware and WM 6.0 ver.033. Strangely, why nobody has written that he was in the works bad.
The results will be issued new versions rom WM6.0 and WM6.1.

[maxh]

Are these Newplow ROMs for the n560 in english or russian?

[fingerstoo]

Are these Newplow ROMs for the n560 in english or russian?

If you download them and look at them with a hex editor, the clue is that near the start of the image file they have the language in three characters. These show ENG which is clearly English. Editing them or changing to another three letter code (e.g. FRA gives French) will install alternative languages depending upon the three letters.

I have not used them yet, but both the WM6.1 ROMs are set to ENG or English.

[maxh]

Aha. Well thank you!

[freexdalogin]

I'm running it for 3 days now along with Broadcom BT stack and freePKs SDHC driver. Working like a charm. Wouldn't wanna go back! OS language is English.

[hendrixus]

Only the download locations sucks.
Finaly got him now 4 tries! :D
Starts in 14 secs after the bootscreen

[amyl]

Hi all,

It seems that after flashing the N560.WM6.032g ROM update the 15-digit device ID is changed. Therefore, registered software (NAVIGON) fails to run.
I assume that the ID is encrypted in the bin file.
Does somebody knows the offset address of the ID for the WM5 and WM6 bin files - or is there another way to solve this?

regards,
Amyl

[hendrixus]

Hi all,

It seems that after flashing the N560.WM6.032g ROM update the 15-digit device ID is changed. Therefore, registered software (NAVIGON) fails to run.
I assume that the ID is encrypted in the bin file.
Does somebody knows the offset address of the ID for the WM5 and WM6 bin files - or is there another way to solve this?

regards,
Amyl

Where can this be find that number?

[amyl]

Hi,

Forgot to tell that the 15-digit number is generated by NAVIGON during registration on the PDA. I cannot find it without running the MobileNavigator6 software. This number plus the software's serial number is to be sent to NAVIGON, and they send you back an activation number.
I had my MN6 software registered under WM5, but after the WM6 update, the device number is changed...

regards,
Amyl

[amyl]

Where can this be find that number?

It is probably related to the number found under :
Settings>Sytem information>Identity>Device serial No.

regards,
Amyl

[fingerstoo]

I have finally gone for NewPlows ROM with Quick GPS etc built in. I have successfuly added Broadcom and SDHC drivers.

What has irritated me more than anything is that the Freeware TCPMP will not play wma files, saying the codec is not supported. I had spent a lot of time converting to my CDs to "wma" as the quality of recordings is better than mp3 for the same bit rate....

TCPMP for wma files worked fine under WM5. Has anyone else worked out how to make it work, please? I have tried installing it in both main memory and SDHC but both give the same pop up error window regarding the codec.
Am I missing something?

[Bozolinho]

Hi,

Have you tried Mortplayer?

http://www.sto-helit.de/index.php?module=download&entry=mp_program&action=list

Have not tested it with WMA but is a great mp3 player and should work with WMA using the GS Player wma plugin.

Nevertheless it is not nice, that it TCPMP wont work well under 6.1...

[fingerstoo]

Hi,

Have you tried Mortplayer?

http://www.sto-helit.de/index.php?module=download&entry=mp_program&action=list

Have not tested it with WMA but is a great mp3 player and should work with WMA using the GS Player wma plugin.

Nevertheless it is not nice, that it TCPMP wont work well under 6.1...

I did try it before and liked the sheer variety of options and tuning that TCPMP gives you. I will be sad if TCPMP cannot be made to work somehow. I will try MortPlayer again. I do use his Mortscript, which is excellent!

[fingerstoo]

Since installing WM6.1 I have my suspicions that there is a greater current drain on the battery. It just seems to run down that bit quicker. It could be my battery has been thrashed and is losing its capacity, but I am still curious.

I am about to run some tests using acbPowerMeter. I wonder if the Processor settings have something to do with it. Unless I am mistaken, I remember only three options under WM5 but there seem now to be four i.e. Turbo Mode, Standard Mode, Power Saving Mode and Automatic Mode. It is not exactly clear what are the benefits and performance of each option!

I plan to assess the performance and especially effects on power consumption. Each setting probably does something to the frequency of the clock running the processor and how that is controlled under load and I wonder if there is any documentation to describe this?

Does anyone else believe they are getting through battery juice more quickly after the move from WM5 to WM6.1?

[-SKYLINE-]

Unless I am mistaken, I remember only three options under WM5 but there seem now to be four i.e. Turbo Mode, Standard Mode, Power Saving Mode and Automatic Mode.

You have mistaken. I'm have yet upgraded, and there are those four options.

[moyua1]

hello

Since it is possible to extract the file imgfs of 0S_213U.nbf and then do the dump of the file imgfs, modify the files of the rom and then return to reconstruct it?

Where it is possible to obtain information to reconstruct the rom of our loox n560?


thanks

[fingerstoo]

I have finally gone for NewPlows ROM with Quick GPS etc built in. I have successfuly added Broadcom and SDHC drivers.

What has irritated me more than anything is that the Freeware TCPMP will not play wma files, saying the codec is not supported. I had spent a lot of time converting to my CDs to "wma" as the quality of recordings is better than mp3 for the same bit rate....

TCPMP for wma files worked fine under WM5. Has anyone else worked out how to make it work, please? I have tried installing it in both main memory and SDHC but both give the same pop up error window regarding the codec.
Am I missing something?

For any of you interested, I have investigated why TCPMP does not find the WMA and WMV codecs. It is because they have been re-named in WM6, since TCPMP is now a bit old it doesn't find them. To make it work under WM6 you need to copy the two "old" WM5 codecs into the WM6 Windows folder on your device. The files are called wmadecoder.dll and wmvdecoder.dll. This makes TCPMP work properly under WM6. You can find them at
http://www.expansys-usa.com/ft.aspx?k=106587

Done!

[fingerstoo]

hello

Since it is possible to extract the file imgfs of 0S_213U.nbf and then do the dump of the file imgfs, modify the files of the rom and then return to reconstruct it?

Where it is possible to obtain information to reconstruct the rom of our loox n560?


thanks

You can do it this way or you can pick up the original ROM images from 4PDA site here http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=50546 but you will need a Google translation. Beware though, I found that some of the "original" ROM images had been edited in minor ways, indeed one I tried stopped Outlook synchronisation with ActiveSync and persisted in connecting as a Guest! Your solution of making your own device's image would not suffer from this!

If you rummage around you can even find instructions for re-constructing your own devices image as an .nbf file.

[alumoi]

Since installing WM6.1 I have my suspicions that there is a greater current drain on the battery. It just seems to run down that bit quicker. It could be my battery has been thrashed and is losing its capacity, but I am still curious.

Hmm, so I'm not paranoid after all :)
I think that the device is operation in turbo mode regardless of the setting you choose.

[maxh]

I installed Newplow's WM6 rom with the instant GPS fix and the SDHC support (file name N560.WM6.032g.7z ) and everything seems to be in english except for the time/date today plug-in. That's in Russian. Is there any way to get that in English?

[fingerstoo]

I installed Newplow's WM6 rom with the instant GPS fix and the SDHC support (file name N560.WM6.032g.7z ) and everything seems to be in english except for the time/date today plug-in. That's in Russian. Is there any way to get that in English?

And you probably find there is an odd letter "r" at the right hand end of the date?

Easy, go to Settings/System/Regional/Region tab then change to your region, but also go to Date tab and change the Long date entry to d MMMM yyyy and you should find everything works just fine.

[fingerstoo]

Hmm, so I'm not paranoid after all :)
I think that the device is operation in turbo mode regardless of the setting you choose.

I have now mamaged to run some tests with acbPowerMeter and setting the processor to each of the four options DO change the power consumption, just as they did under WM5. This shows that the processor clock speed is being changed, methinks.

I have come to the conclusion that I am just nervous that some things might be worse after upgrading. I suspect the power consumption is just the same. I ran the GPS and navigation software for a 3 hour walk yesterday and found the battery drop was much the same as WM5.

[maxh]

Well thank you, fingerstoo! I did manage to figure out the first part a little after posting, but didn't look farther into getting rid of that "r" at the end until reading your response.

[IceBox]

hello boys!! I am new on this forum , and i have a big problem! i found an FJ n520 , and it has a problem , when i start it i must wait 1 hour to enter in Windows ( the boot picture it`s freezeing and do nothing) , i try to flash it but every ROM that I download it says " the device connected is not a " pocket loox n5XX". what can be the problem? pls help.thnx

[fingerstoo]

hello boys!! I am new on this forum , and i have a big problem! i found an FJ n520 , and it has a problem , when i start it i must wait 1 hour to enter in Windows ( the boot picture it`s freezeing and do nothing) , i try to flash it but every ROM that I download it says " the device connected is not a " pocket loox n5XX". what can be the problem? pls help.thnx

Hey, how did you "find" it? Has it ever worked since you found it?

If stuck on the climbers screen then you may well have a bricked device. Have you tried taking the battery out and then back in? It might restart.

If this doesn't work then try a hard reset? Press Power, Claendar button and stylus in the rest hole in the bottom all simultaneously, then remove the stylus whilst still holding the other two buttons and wait until the screen display disappears. When it returns, the climbers picture should appear and the device starts from scratch with screen alignment etc. But if it then asks for a password, you have probably got a "missing" device! Unless you have the password that unlocks the machine, its back to FS for an expensive unlock....

[Turbo-Loox]

If you download them and look at them with a hex editor, the clue is that near the start of the image file they have the language in three characters. These show ENG which is clearly English. Editing them or changing to another three letter code (e.g. FRA gives French) will install alternative languages depending upon the three letters.

This is a bit confusing:

1. Near the start are the three characters referring to the language, e.g. ENG. They belong to the header which is 42 bytes long. The language given here has to be identical to the current language in the ROM otherwise flashing the ROM with the new OS will fail. Correct? In my case I have to change the language from ENG to GER.

2. However, after the 42 bytes of the header the image of the OS starts. Not too far away from here, you find again three characters referring to the language. Do I have to change the language there as well? Maybe that is the location to determine the OS language. Have you guys changed those characters as well?

[IceBox]

Hey, how did you "find" it? Has it ever worked since you found it?

If stuck on the climbers screen then you may well have a bricked device. Have you tried taking the battery out and then back in? It might restart.

If this doesn't work then try a hard reset? Press Power, Claendar button and stylus in the rest hole in the bottom all simultaneously, then remove the stylus whilst still holding the other two buttons and wait until the screen display disappears. When it returns, the climbers picture should appear and the device starts from scratch with screen alignment etc. But if it then asks for a password, you have probably got a "missing" device! Unless you have the password that unlocks the machine, its back to FS for an expensive unlock....

thnx a lot!! i make this "hard reset" and now it`s ok! but are 2 problems.
1.I have a battery inside and it doesent charge , and the device is telling me that he is in AC charging mode.
2.I try to flash it and still the same No loox 5xx device.........

[fingerstoo]

thnx a lot!! i make this "hard reset" and now it`s ok! but are 2 problems.
1.I have a battery inside and it doesent charge , and the device is telling me that he is in AC charging mode.

If it is charging the red LED (top right should be flashing). If it is solid then the battery is fully charged. If it is the first time you have used it or the battery then be aware it can take 8 hours or more to complete the first charge.

2.I try to flash it and still the same No loox 5xx device.........

You must remove all passwords in WM5 before you flash. There are potentially two, one - the simple FSC one, and two - the hardware lock (to prevent theft). As I have flashed my to WM6.1 I cannot remember where you go to change that. The second one is buried in a progam or settings sub menue/tab.

If this doesn't work then, as one of the upgrade sites suggests, you might need to install FSC Reg.cab before performing the flash. I did not, but you can find it in FSC utilities download on the upgrade sites. It is one of several FSC small utilities in the zip file.



Hope this helps?

[IceBox]

ok I installed FSCreg , and now what should I do?

[fingerstoo]

ok I installed FSCreg , and now what should I do?

Download (from the same site you got the ROM image) and run the FSC PocketLoox5xxFlashTool.exe program. Follow it's instructions carefully.

Why aren't you sticking with WM5? You haven't said if it charges now (has any of the charge stuck?) and does the device already run properly under WM5? If not, why are you bothering?

[IceBox]

Download (from the same site you got the ROM image) and run the FSC PocketLoox5xxFlashTool.exe program. Follow it's instructions carefully.

Why aren't you sticking with WM5? You haven't said if it charges now (has any of the charge stuck?) and does the device already run properly under WM5? If not, why are you bothering?

The point is , it doesent charge the baterry , no lights flashing at all,it work just from AC power.understaind? i told you that i found the device (walk with my girlfriend and found it on the road) so i don`t know what is with it.When i first started the device (i bought a car charger) i wait arround 1 hour to enter in windows (it appears on the screen te boot image ,fijutsu siemens bla bla and do nothing).this is all the story.......

now the problem is that i don`t know how to flash this thing , i can`t escape fromt that "no loox device" message....

[fingerstoo]

It is probably hardware locked and therefore no amount of flashing will make it start. It was either stolen or deliberately damaged and abandoned, or thrown away because it doesn't work! Either way, good try, but it sounds as if it is only worthy of the bin!

Buy another new model... it doesn't seem to be worth any more effort... bye

[fingerstoo]

I have noticed that Transcriber seems to have been removed from WM6.1 and perhaps WM6 too? Or has it been taken out by our Russian friends when creating the new ROMs for the N560? I personally do not mourn its loss.

There seems to be slight differences between the Note app, which still has an option of Drawing, but you cannot now use Transcriber to translate into text. It can still record voice notes crudely.

And Mobile Notes seems an odd stilted application even less useful than Notes? What is going on? Is it Microsoft or our Russian friends again?

[mystery1166]

Hi
I know that it's a problem already discussed in another threads, but I'm not able to resolve.

I've installed the last rom 6.1 018 with the gps instant fix, but the gps doesn't work. It seems that there're no satellites.

Someone could help me?

[mystery1166]

Resolved.

Change baud to 9600 and wait looooong time.

[fingerstoo]

Resolved.

Change baud to 9600 and wait looooong time.

You should get a fix within 30 secs, sometimes less, if Quick GPS is working properly. And you need to stay still and preferably outside for first fix. And you should make sure that your N560 has been on the cradle connected to a PC with internet access. I discovered a gotcha. I had installed a new firewall and there was no indication but it blocked the N560's direct access to the Ephemeris data web-site that Quick GPS uses. I too had long waits. Check that if you run Quick GPS on the cradle that it has 2 days and 23 hours of data on the satellites. You can run the data download immediately from that screen, and this should give you 2 days and 23 hours worth of satellite positional data. Then retry, preferably outside, the first fix.

The baud rate can be changed to 57600 as the rate at which the N560 analyses and samples the satellite data stream will be a bit faster. Check also that the software you are using is seeing the right GPS Port (check under Settings/System/External GPS, "External GPS" is a strange term as it covers internal settings!). Here you can set the ports to match your software. However, I would recommend doing it the other way. Just leave the settings on the N560 alone and change the software settings to match the N560.

Hope this helps?

[mystery1166]

Found the problem.

I had to apply the gps istant fix again.

[fingerstoo]

I have been running tests on power consumption since changing my ROM image to WM6.1 from NewPlow, version 018. I discovered something very odd and potentially useful. If some of you can run the same tests, we can see if the results are repeatable on all devices. I disovered that running TCPMP, the freeware music/video player (you only need press play and then pause it for less than a second) the quiescent current taken by the N560 from the battery drops from 98mA to 56mA. This is a drop in consumptin of about 43%. The consumption after a warm start on my device is 98mA. After running TCPMP, playing a short burst, then the quiescent or resting current consumption is 56mA. How odd?

To repeat the tests you will ned to set the screen brightness to the lowest setting. And the Processor power setting should be set to Automatic Mode. You need to install acbPowerMeter and TCPMP version 0.72. Then run acbPowerMeter. There will be peaks whenever you exit or enter programs or change something, but watch for the current taken when it settles down. Then try just loading TCPMP and not running it. The quiescent current should be around 98mA plus or minus a few milliamps. Then try playing a short burst of music and then pausing it. The new quiescent current should now be 40% or thereabouts less.

I also use the freeware utility tMan to switch quickly between acbPowerMeter and other programs. It is easy to run power tests this way.

If this is true you can reduce the power taken by the N560. These results may well apply to other models in the FSC range, but also other Pocket PCs using the same WM version. It might even apply to WM5?

Any ideas why this happens folks?

[comput1]

Hi all, can anyone explain:

After full upgrade to this WM6.1 (russian site) with this quick gps installed, which port is the correct one to use with Tomtom etc?
(I have found that Tomtom only works if I tell it to look to hardware port, 4 in my case and 9600)

Is this quickgps software actually any use?
(some forums claim the info which is downloaded is old info)

The new quiescent current should now be 40% or therabouts less.is this 40% less than (1) before starting TCPMP OR (2) before pressing play with TCPMP already running?

Cheers!

[fingerstoo]

Hi all, can anyone explain:

After full upgrade to this WM6.1 (russian site) with this quick gps installed, which port is the correct one to use with Tomtom etc?
(I have found that Tomtom only works if I tell it to look to hardware port, 4 in my case and 9600)

Is this quickgps software actually any use?
(some forums claim the info which is downloaded is old info)

is this 40% less than (1) before starting TCPMP OR (2) before pressing play with TCPMP already running?

Cheers!

Answer to first point - I agree TomTom seems to only like connecting to the hardware port direct which is COM 4. I have found that setting to 57600 actually helps to speed up the data comms.

Quick GPS had problems at first with outdated satellite ephemeris data but I can confirm that the problems were sorted and the satellite data works well now. The first fix is considerably faster. maybe even less than 15 seconds. As NewPlow has put the FSC program "GPS Locator" in main ROM now, I find this an advantage as you will always get a first fix faster if you load GPS Locator first, then get the first fix (enhanced by Quick GPS), exit it, then load your choice of GPS software e.g. TT6 or Memory Map whatever.... This is much faster than using the latter apps on their own.

If I understand your question correctly, the answer is both 1 and 2! The key is to press Play even briefly and the quiescent power consumption is less than before you pressed it, obviously TCPMP has to be running, but 40% less than before it was running too. Isn't it odd? But useful...

How did you get on, did you achieve the reduction too?

[comput1]

Wow 40% is quite amazing. I have not tried it yet, still tidying it all up after upgrading to WM6.1, you know all those quirky things like button assignments that makes it work perfectly for YOUR usage! I'm extremely impressed with this combination of holding the panning button and using left and right to change screen brightness... fantastic! and autoscreen dimming is cool too. Battery consumption was a gripe with me before but i guess it will be much better with these new features.

What about a (mono) bluetooth connection? I can add my device, and even select it in the audio options, but cannot hear anything through it? Is there an install to make it play music etc over bluetooth. I think I could in WM5 but forget what I installed.

My GPS Locator does not work at all after the update, and I took this newest one from NewPlow... although TomTom finds a fix pretty fast now, in about one minute. I am still sceptical as to whether I have the gps side of things configured correctly to make best use of this QuickGPS,

As you say TomTom prefers 4, does yours also prefer 9600? It seems to work ok for me like that. Although 'external gps settings' say that it's transmitting on com8 for software with 57000. Do you think TomTom is benefitting from the QuickGPS data in this case?

Anyone know of any handy utility for doodling, you know like painting or something..?

And has anyone heard of a sim card reader that you can put in the SD slot. That would be awesome, it would make it into a phone! but that's just dreaming eh?!

[fingerstoo]

Under WM6.1 (and maybe WM5?) if you press and hold the Action button (middle of the 4 way joypad) and the Today button briefly (bottom right hand corner button) it will take you straight to the screen alignment utility.

But not as useful as the screen brightness button trick! Or the TCPMP one either... still don't know how I found that one!

[fingerstoo]

Bit more on the power consumption reduction!

After much translation on Akshal's and the 4PDA sites, I have come to the conclusion that the "bug" or "feature" that was in WM5, where the quiescent current consumption was high until a sound was played, is also unfortunately carried over to WM6.1. The same piece of program code is still in there.

The use of TCPMP briefly in "play" mode obviously has the desired effect. Indeed playing any sound, however briefly, kicks the consumption down by 43%. The alternative way to do this is to go to Settings/Sounds and Notifications (assuming like me you have turned off Screen taps and Hardware buttn sounds!) and just tick Hardware buttons, Soft. This will have the effect that as soon as you touch a button after a warm start the power consumption will drop by 43%.

So the 3 solutions to reducing the battery power consumption are:

1. install GoodwavPower (which runs each time you start up)
2. run something that plays a wav sound (TCPMP or WMP)
3. set Screen taps or Harware buttons to sound softly or loudly!

I think this re-emergence of the wav power drawing may be why some of us have reported a suspicion that there is higher battery consumption after going to WM6.1. The answers seem to be here?

[fingerstoo]

I have just discovered that Messaging app on Newplow 018 WM6.1 release does not work properly, unless I am doing something wrong?

I can successfully set up an account (in this case with Google Mail pop account). But when I try to write a new email, i.e. New, nothing happens! Also I managed to download a new email, but it sat doggedly in the intray and would not open to be read!

Has anyone else had this problem, please?

[oNNoZeLe]

I have just discovered that Messaging app on Newplow 018 WM6.1 release does not work properly, unless I am doing something wrong?

I can successfully set up an account (in this case with Google Mail pop account). But when I try to write a new email, i.e. New, nothing happens! Also I managed to download a new email, but it sat doggedly in the intray and would not open to be read!

Has anyone else had this problem, please?

yes this is true..

and no fix so far..:(

Well, a fix would be downgrading to the wm6, 32.. But within a few days newplow should be posting a Windows Mobile 6,0 ver. 035.

[fingerstoo]

Thanks for the news. Where did you find that out? Do you know Newplow?

Are these "bugs" from MS or as a result of modifying the code to work on FSC N560?

[oNNoZeLe]

Thanks for the news. Where did you find that out? Do you know Newplow?

Are these "bugs" from MS or as a result of modifying the code to work on FSC N560?

NP, i found out at newplow's site, newplow.euro.ru and about the bugs, no idea what kind of bugs these are.

But on the other hand i cannot imagine HTC or whatever other wm6.1 selling/providing company distributes a rom that cannot handle e-mail.

I have no clue on how a rom is build, i have tried looking into it but "was lost in translation:D" but maybe there 's a missing "dll" or component.. dunno..

check his site because he just release a new wm6.0 version..

[siskin]

Does anybody have any idea why Newplow removed the SDHC driver from his later rom releases?

[oNNoZeLe]

Does anybody have any idea why Newplow removed the SDHC driver from his later rom releases?

First, if you want the driver just download it. it is available..
second, there were some issues with 'a version' of this driver.. Some applications didn't really work well..

You can also check his site for comments on the roms and replies..

and if you don't know any russian you should use

translate.google.com -> works pretty wel..

[fingerstoo]

Anyone tried the latest (10.6.08) N560 WM6.0 release 035 yet?

I assume it has solved some bugs of which I was not aware?

I am sitting here with non working Messaging on his WM6.1 and I am a bit reluctant to take oNNoZeLe's suggestion to downgrade in case Newplow releases a new version of WM6.1. It is a lot of work to re-install all my software and settings, so I don't want to burn a new version without good reason!

I have seen a version of WM6.1 working on a Dell Axim in the last few days and the Messaging/email creation and reading works fine on that PDA. I suppose I will have to be patient, but it is like waiting for a bus... no idea when Newplow will release, if at all, a new version of WM6.1 with the bug removed.

[oNNoZeLe]

Anyone tried the latest (10.6.08) N560 WM6.0 release 035 yet?

I assume it has solved some bugs of which I was not aware?

I am sitting here with non working Messaging on his WM6.1 and I am a bit reluctant to take oNNoZeLe's suggestion to downgrade in case Newplow releases a new version of WM6.1. It is a lot of work to re-install all my software and settings, so I don't want to burn a new version without good reason!

I have seen a version of WM6.1 working on a Dell Axim in the last few days and the Messaging/email creation and reading works fine on that PDA. I suppose I will have to be patient, but it is like waiting for a bus... no idea when Newplow will release, if at all, a new version of WM6.1 with the bug removed.


fingerstoo,

i installed the latest yesterday.. and i can read my mail again :D.

I don't use alot of tools so "flashing my thing" is a hour work to be back up-and-running.

If newplow creates a new wm6.1 rom i will try it again. And if this works i will stay on the wm6.1. Ifnot, i'll wait or install the 035.

This is one reason why i stopped customizing. ;)

goodluck with your choice.

[sunadorer]

Hey Folks,

has anybody heard anything if WPA2 may be available in any upcoming patch/rom-version.

With this, the N560 would be perfect. This is the last thing that would be left.

Best Regards!
SunAdorer.

[fingerstoo]

fingerstoo,

i installed the latest yesterday.. and i can read my mail again :D.

I don't use alot of tools so "flashing my thing" is a hour work to be back up-and-running.

If newplow creates a new wm6.1 rom i will try it again. And if this works i will stay on the wm6.1. Ifnot, i'll wait or install the 035.

This is one reason why i stopped customizing. ;)

goodluck with your choice.

Thanks for your helpful reply.

The other feature that use constantly is GPS. Do you know if that, in particular, is working normally?

I am tempted to just sit and wait (bus thing again!) until Newplow does update WM6.1. It's less hassle. I take your point about customising, but I have stuff from 3 generations of WM back that is still useful, e.g. IrDa universal remote control, birding programs etc..... I am well and truly committed.

[Oliii]

Hello everyone, I read on newplows guestbook that he is not going to release new 6.1 updates. He did not tell the reason why.

But I have a question if you mind. I installed the new 035 version, and in the earlier versions I had a clicking sound when I pushed for example the start button, but I cant set it in this version? Any ideas? Some registery hack?
Iam missin this sound somehow....

Thank you

[fingerstoo]

Hello everyone, I read on newplows guestbook that he is not going to release new 6.1 updates. He did not tell the reason why.

But I have a question if you mind. I installed the new 035 version, and in the earlier versions I had a clicking sound when I pushed for example the start button, but I cant set it in this version? Any ideas? Some registery hack?
Iam missin this sound somehow....

Thank you

I see you have an aanswer from Newplow on his site!

[oNNoZeLe]

I see you have an aanswer from Newplow on his site!

yes,

but a search on this site might do the trick..

i have seen an topic/post on this within this forum..

[fingerstoo]

I finally gave in and got rid of Newplow's WM6.1 because of the Messaging bug and the Encryption issue.... I installed his WM6.0 release 035. It seems to release more memory and is faster and does not appear to have any significant "bugs". I suffered a few inexplicable crashes of the PC while sending the new files to the PPC via USB/ActiveSync, but this happened last time! Luckily a hard N560 reset enabled another go at it. After 5 attempts it ran through without crashing the PC. I wonder if this happened to anyone else. I am running XP and I did all the right things, direct cable to USN not a hub, shut off all firewalls and internet access etc. It failed at different points of transferring the burn program and ROM image. When it finally got past this the burn was very quick indeed. Phew! The burn program seems to have caused a kernel fault. No blue screen, just dropped out and Windows restarted! Odd but at last I got through it.

I can see now why Newplow does not seem committed to WM6.1 as his WM6.0 release 035 is very stable and everthing seems to work, AND the version of Mobile Office apps seems to be 6.1 (which is one of the reasons I went to WM6.1 to get latest Office format compatibility).

At last Messaging works and I can rest easy!

[nojay]

I've just successfully flashed my Loox N560 with N560.WM6.0.035.01.7z from newplow. It runs OK but I seem to have lost the original OS version's USB host functionality. If I plug my portable USB keyboard into the Loox via the host USB cable nothing happens. Same for USB SD card readers which used to appear in File Explorer and Total Commander as "Hard Drive".

Is there a Fujitsu-Siemens specific driver somewhere I have to load to get this functionality in WM6.0 or WM6.1?

[siskin]

I've just successfully flashed my Loox N560 with N560.WM6.0.035.01.7z from newplow. It runs OK but I seem to have lost the original OS version's USB host functionality. If I plug my portable USB keyboard into the Loox via the host USB cable nothing happens. Same for USB SD card readers which used to appear in File Explorer and Total Commander as "Hard Drive".

Is there a Fujitsu-Siemens specific driver somewhere I have to load to get this functionality in WM6.0 or WM6.1?

Weird. I have Newplow Wm6.0 035 on my C550 and I can read write to my 4gb memory stick on USB host cable. You might need some HID drivers for keyboard. I can't test that as I don't have a USB keyboard.

I have a ratoc driver that *may* work. Think I got it here:-
http://www.ratocsystems.com/english/download/driver/cfu1.html

*EDIT* I just tried my multi card reader. It seemed to lock up the host, so that I had to soft reset to get other things to work again.

[fingerstoo]

[QUOTE=fingerstoo;2322589]I can see now why Newplow does not seem committed to WM6.1 as his WM6.0 release 035 is very stable and everthing seems to work, AND the version of Mobile Office apps seems to be 6.1 (which is one of the reasons I went to WM6.1 to get latest Office format compatibility).

QUOTE]

Further investigation shows the Mobile Office says 6.1 but it does NOT read/write the new Office 2007 type docx and other files. Sorry if I mis-lead anyone! Shame.

[gezerovich]

Hi
I'am trying to upgrade fron WM6 to 6.1. After running PocketLOOX5xxFlashTool.exe, I got an error that I don't have service program OR missing Image file. the upgrade was stoped.
Can't Upgrade.
What can be the problem ?

[fingerstoo]

Hi
I'am trying to upgrade fron WM6 to 6.1. After running PocketLOOX5xxFlashTool.exe, I got an error that I don't have service program OR missing Image file. the upgrade was stoped.
Can't Upgrade.
What can be the problem ?

Firstly, are you really sure it's worth upgrading to 6.1? I did and have reverted to 6.0. Newplow's 6.1 has some problems but 6.0 version 035 appears OK (to me).

I assume that you have copied the 6.1 ROM image file (OS_213U.nbf) into the same folder as the Loox flash tool? Also have you ensured the files associated with the burn program are there too i.e. EnterBootLoader.exe, RUU.dll and RUUServer.dll? And have you removed any password locks etc (FSC or the MS one)? Good idea also to temorarily stop any Firewall on the PC...

[gezerovich]

First, thanks fingerstoo for your help.
All files are in the same directory. No matter what version of rom I try, still no conection. I tried with firewall shutdown...nada
What do you mean "password lock" ? where ? I tried after HR so no password at all...

[fingerstoo]

First, thanks fingerstoo for your help.
All files are in the same directory. No matter what version of rom I try, still no conection. I tried with firewall shutdown...nada
What do you mean "password lock" ? where ? I tried after HR so no password at all...


You say no connection. Do you mean that ActiveSync does not register the reset device as connected, even as a Guest? A Guest connection is fine. This should be established before running the Loox burning program.

One other thing to check is whether your USB connection is to a USB port directly on the motherboard of your PC? It should NOT be via a USB hub or multi USB port device. I think the problem sounds more software related than hardware, but it is worth checking.

The "password lock" is a password that survives a Hard Reset! If set, it prevents a thief from using the device unless they know the password. You might have set it inadvertantly? As I don't have WM5 any longer, I cannot remember where it is. It is called the FSC Lock or Secure Lock methinks. You simply have to remove the password i.e. no password set. Most of the translated instructions for a Loox ROM burn are very specific about removing the simple password but also this more secure survivable password. You would not normally be asked for this password unless you do a hard reset. But if set I believe it will prevent the burn...

Perhaps someone else can tell us what it is called?

[hendrixus]

fingerstoo,

i installed the latest yesterday.. and i can read my mail again :D.

I don't use alot of tools so "flashing my thing" is a hour work to be back up-and-running.

If newplow creates a new wm6.1 rom i will try it again. And if this works i will stay on the wm6.1. Ifnot, i'll wait or install the 035.

This is one reason why i stopped customizing. ;)

goodluck with your choice.

What e-mail problems?
I have noticed with the 6.1 ROM I couldn'use Googlemaps anymore. I kept on saying it needed a wireless connection, which was on.

So i'll better go back to the latest WM6.0 32,35 or 36 ?
Ok I am back to WM6.0 (36)

Still Googlemaps gives me a problem

[fingerstoo]

What e-mail problems?
I have noticed with the 6.1 ROM I couldn'use Googlemaps anymore. I kept on saying it needed a wireless connection, which was on.

So i'll better go back to the latest WM6.0 32,35 or 36 ?
Ok I am back to WM6.0 (36)

Still Googlemaps gives me a problem

The WM6.1 email "bugs" are admitted by Newplow on his website. You can set up an account, retrieve settings successfully from the internet. Log on to your email site, pick up emails BUT you cannot open them! Also you cannot create new ones either. He doesn't seem keen to sort them out either, but he is persisting with WM6.0 development (latest release is 036 with solution for iGo users - not me). I am on Newplow's WM6.0 release 035... not sure if release 036 is worth the move as I don't use iGo?

I use Opera 8.65 and Google maps works on it although unreadble map in bottom right hand corner! But the GoogleMaps app gets stuck needing a wireless connection, just like you.

[hendrixus]

. I am on Newplow's WM6.0 release 035... not sure if release 036 is worth the move as I don't use iGo?

I sometimes use it but not on the N560. I just tok the latest ROM

I use Opera 8.65 and Google maps works on it although unreadble map in bottom right hand corner! But the GoogleMaps app gets stuck needing a wireless connection, just like you.

Right. I dont have the Googlemaps problem with my Toshiba G900. I can't remember if I had the problem before on older releases of the ROM for the N560.
Probely not otherwise I would have mentioned it before.

[hendrixus]

I've just successfully flashed my Loox N560 with N560.WM6.0.035.01.7z from newplow. It runs OK but I seem to have lost the original OS version's USB host functionality. If I plug my portable USB keyboard into the Loox via the host USB cable nothing happens. Same for USB SD card readers which used to appear in File Explorer and Total Commander as "Hard Drive".

Is there a Fujitsu-Siemens specific driver somewhere I have to load to get this functionality in WM6.0 or WM6.1?

I just tried out hooking up a 4GB USB stick to the N560 cable and it works with Newplow's 036 ROM, ("harddrive")
Hooking up a cardreader didn't work

[JUB1L]

I am running Newplow's WM6.0 035 with the SDHC card driver, goodwavpower and tMan loaded to the device. I have installed Navigon 6.1 and POI Warner 2 to run from a 8Gig SDHC card with the intention of preserving maximum memory on the N560. My experience is the opposite, Navigon runs as far as selecting a location but as soon as it starts to calculate the route, a screen pops up asking me to close either Navigon or POI Warner followed by a request to close the other.

Using tMan to open system/memory just before the calculation starts, it shows Storage as 75.94 free (from 81.12) and Program as 8.68 free (from 50.17).

WM2003SE automatically reallocated memory, should this not happen on WM6.0?
Anyone know how to redistribute some of the storage memory to give more program space please?

UPDATE I get the same problems if the GPS software is installed to the device. It seems to be related to running Navigon via the 8Gig card. The problem goes away if a 2Gig card is used. It seems that Navigon has problems with cards larger than 2 Gig. It was not happy with 4Gig SD (non HC) cards before the HC driver came along. Other files are OK with larger cards. Are these problems widespread or peculiar to my set-up?

[pdaknight8]

I am currently using Pups.0.0.4 rom and very satisfied with its reliability and performance. But the author of the rom stopped updating it after the version. On the contrary, Newplow is continuously updating his rom. I have an impression from many people that his rom is getting better and better even compared with Pups.0.0.4.

Can anybody definitely say which is better? Once I decide to use something I don't change unless it is unusable for a crucial fault or there is clearly better one available. Thanks in advance.

[hendrixus]

First, thanks fingerstoo for your help.
All files are in the same directory. No matter what version of rom I try, still no conection. I tried with firewall shutdown...nada
What do you mean "password lock" ? where ? I tried after HR so no password at all...

The error you get is about the connection to the device. So there is something wrong with ActtiveSync(PC) <> N560

[fingerstoo]

First, thanks fingerstoo for your help.
All files are in the same directory. No matter what version of rom I try, still no conection. I tried with firewall shutdown...nada
What do you mean "password lock" ? where ? I tried after HR so no password at all...

I think I know what you need, if you are still "out there"?

You need to find the program FSC Reg.cab which is on some of the Russian sites in a collection of FSC Utilities. When you download them, they come in a folder called "OEM". EDIT: Found it... it's here by MadPriest

http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ru&u=http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php%3Fs%3D1b95147e243f984e6be890518d1587a0%2 6showtopic%3D74762%26st%3D780&prev=/search%3Fq%3D4pda%2Bteam%2B777%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

For some reason I cannot seem to access the sites to find it for you. But you should install this little proggie on the N560. It will not appear to do anything, but it will release the ROM burn with the Loox Flashtool. I suggested it to someone else who had the same problem and it worked. These sites suggest that you run it as part of the burn - I didn't run it and the Flash worked anyway. But others report that they do and it stops the error message and the Flash runs.

[fingerstoo]

I decided to see if I could find the missing Transcriber app (mising from Newplow's 035 and proably other WM6 releases). Newplow suggested getting it from MS, but I tried it. It is an old version for WM2002 and it assumes (understandably) that the screen is only QVGA not VGA. Consequently when you write with a stylus the inked version is very large and appears down and to the right of where you are writing. No good!

Perusing Dell WM5/6 upgrades on this site I found two newer versions but they had the same minor problems on the N560 (like no ink when writing but highlighting some text already in a document put there using the keyboard!).

But there is one version which does work on the FSC N560, if you can find it. I managed to download it, but cannot get back to the site (the 4pda.ru site seems to be unavailable even though I accessed it earlier today). It seems to work well and the file is called A17Transcriber.cab and is delivered as A17Transcriber.rar. If I could get the link for you all, I would! Oh, and if you do install it, you will find it does not work properly until you perform a soft reset. And the "options" to fine tune it can only be accessed when you have chosen to use Transcriber as the input method on running Mobile Word ,say.

I just missed Transcriber a bit - even though I hardly ever used it. But it works just fine.

[modellbobby]

its neccesary to have gps instant fix installed on the wm5 OS?

Or only flash the newest newplow rom and everything is ok?

[islandxp]

modellbobby its neccesary to have gps instant fix installed on the wm5 OS?


As you will flash the ROM it doesn't matter what your current Rom content is - provided the language matches.

Flushed yesterday Newplow 038.

Works great, feels good, is fast. Still loading Progs, so far so good. Thanks to the developer

Found only two things so far:

The backlight control function is not a program that can be accessed through the buttons? (But I may have missed something here)

The SDHC driver implemented in the "Newp 038" has the same shortcoming as when applied to the original WM5:

Switching to suspend seems to release the SDHC Card. Programs accessing the SDHC Card while running will freeze after switching on from suspend. This is not the case with (standard) SD Cards. (Typical with navigation SW)

[fingerstoo]

its neccesary to have gps instant fix installed on the wm5 OS?

Or only flash the newest newplow rom and everything is ok?

This is not simple. The QuickGPS patch should be applied before you flash to Newplow, because it does TWO things...

1.... it updates the GPS firmware/chip (not the main system ROM) to change the speed of the ports, swop the hardware and software COM ports over (COM4 and COM8) and ensure that the GPS accesses the new file with ephemeris data that downloads from the internet

2.... installs the program QuickGPS which is the program that runs on startup (if you wish) or under your own controla to go to an internet site that sends a small file conataining the ephemeris data to you N560 over theinternet connection.

Newplows ROM only has incorporated the item 2 above, the QuickGPS program. So you still should apply the patch BEFORE flashing the WM5 ROM with WM6.0. Use the 038 version on his Guest page. Do not use the WM6.1 as he is not planning to sort out the 2 bugs which for me make it useless (I did try it). The WM6.0 is fine but I think it has a small memory leak problem. I have posted a couple of comments on Newplow's site as I have been monitoring it today. It is still worth flashing the ROM! The memory leakage is minor but without further investigation I cannot rule out something else running which is causing it. But from my experience it looks like the operating system or more likely MS ActiveSync!

Hope this helps?

Oh and IslandXP, I think the same problem on switching/standby applies to ordinary SD cards too. I have had identical experience, it is NOT just SDHC drivers/cards. I have had lockups on TT6 and Memory Map if you switch off or use suspend/standby on both N560 and other PDAs with only SD cards. Having investigated TomTom behaviour (it applied to TT3, TT5 and now TT6)it writes to the SD quite regularly and it you switch on/off or use standby/suspend while it is running, it leaves the application and writing to SD in a strange state and often locks the device. So both the SD and SDHC suffer the same problem. Therefore I just never switch off or go into any standby mode when running GPS proggies. I do switch off the screen to save battery, but not in the car where it is on supply anyway.

[islandxp]

Oh and Islan