HOW TO FIX Disappearing SD Cards! [Archive]

LegolasTheElf

16th February 2007, 06:43 AM

Ever since I upgraded to the new AKU3.3 Cingular roms, I've been having an issue where my 2GB Sandisk MicroSD Card will just 'disappear'. It can take one of two different forms when it disappears:

1) The card looks like it's simply not there. The OS creates another directory on the device itself called "Storage Card". Ejecting the card and reinserting it makes it visible to the device again, but, then the card itself is called, "Storage Card2", with the obvious issues of all links being broken until I manually rename everything to be what it should be.

2) The card is there, and I can navigate the directories, but, there is nothing IN the directores. Removing and re-inserting fixes this, and all my info is there again.

This is getting REALLY annoying, and only happened since the upgrade to the new Cingular rom. Anyone have any ideas of what is causing the problem, and/or how to fix it?

Thanks!

EDIT:

After working at the issue for a while, here is the end results:

Do the following reg. hack (numbers are in DECIMAL! hex equiv. is 0x2004):
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196

Additionally, the Kingston 1GB MicroSD Card is *much* better (Japanese made) than the SanDisk or even the Crucial :eek: MicroSD (Taiwan).

I had SEVERE issues with the card going missing; changing to the Kingston SD and applying the above fixes made the issue GO AWAY!

bodypilot

16th February 2007, 07:48 AM

Same problem - it is causing lots of probs with apps installed on the card

shark1

16th February 2007, 07:51 AM

I had the same problem when I used this rom, I think its a bug, I chnaged to the HTC test rom and did not have any issues.

I think you will have wait until the formal release rom comes directly from AT&T, as you know this site will not have roms from next week

barrr

16th February 2007, 12:43 PM

Had that with a cheap card, Changed to Kingston and all is perfect.

edwinyuen

16th February 2007, 12:49 PM

Had that with a cheap card, Changed to Kingston and all is perfect.

I have a SanDisk and it has the same issue. It has issue #2, where the directories are there but no files. It caused my ringtones to go missing. Only since the upgrade to the Cingular AKU 3.3 ROM. Just ANOTHER issue with this ROM. :(

elivne

17th February 2007, 04:08 AM

I have the HTC 3.3 ROM, same prob. 2 situations:
1. card shows gibberish text(signs - not letters)
2. folders are there but no files.

SR always solves the situation.

LegolasTheElf

17th February 2007, 05:58 AM

I just ordered a new Crucial.com MicroSD 1gb memory card. It's smaller than my SanDisk one, but, since I need it to be reliable more than I need it to be big to store music, etc.. I'll take the crucial chip. Hopefully that solves the problem.

booda

17th February 2007, 06:14 AM

I have similar problems, where the card (ExtremeII Sandisk 2GB):

1) disappears, or
2) shows up in the folder tree but reports as having no free space, or
3) becomes temporarily corrupted and hangs the whole system when trying to access it.

Eject/reinsert or soft reset fixes all of these. However, I was having problems 1) and 3) on the old ROM too, and used to see similar problems on my old Axim X50v.

sugardad

19th February 2007, 01:20 AM

You 're not alone Test ROM 2.05.255.1 - Radio 1.34 - AKU 3.3
Has the same effects
PLUS sometimes the hard Buttons doen't seem to respond after some amount of time, GEESH!!!

shovelhed

19th February 2007, 05:35 PM

I have the HTC 3.3 ROM, same prob. 2 situations:
1. card shows gibberish text(signs - not letters)
2. folders are there but no files.

SR always solves the situation.
I am seeing the same thing with 2GB Sandisk card.

LegolasTheElf

20th February 2007, 07:25 AM

I got totally fed up with my SanDisk 2GB SD Card and did a backup and a reformat. However, this time I formatted it as FAT32; it seemed to make a difference. It seems to be a LITTLE more stable, and a LITTLE better at keeping the information; however, there is DEFINATELY a bug in this rom... I wish there was some way to track it down and squash it. It's probably a stupid registry hack... <sigh>

kalrykh

20th February 2007, 08:21 AM

kinda off topic, kinda not :P just thought i'd throw this in. 2 gb sandisk microsd cards are on sale at compusa this week for 40 bucks if anyone's looking to get one.

bsica

21st February 2007, 02:36 AM

Seeing this also, and its irritating me as well. If i run an app from the SD card, and the card goes to lunch as described, my device locks up.

wwwes

21st February 2007, 05:14 AM

I have a 2gb sandisk and just loaded cingular 2.06.
I DON'T have this problem yet, but I had lots of issues with my 1.34 load hanging due to storage card issues. I have gotten in the habit of putting it in a card reader periodically and running scandisk with all options checked under xp, then defrag. almost every time there are found.000 directories. once it was 100mb worth of dead files.
this seems to help for a while.
has anyone else tried running scandisk when this happens?
wes

LegolasTheElf

21st February 2007, 05:17 AM

So far my 1GB MicroSD from Crucial is working MUCH better! No problems so far. I'm thinking the SanDisk 2GB just has issues generally...

Those who aren't having problems, are you using SanDisk? Or, did you use a different chip? Or, is it that the 2GB is causing the issues?

LegolasTheElf

21st February 2007, 06:11 AM

I spoke too soon. It's exhibiting the same problems, although, not as badly as the sandisk.

All the directories were there, just none of the files. Remove and reinsert, and it's all good again.

This is nuts.... This is a BIG bug... :mad:

LegolasTheElf

21st February 2007, 06:50 AM

I think I may have found something. Can someone with the ORIGINAL Cingular rom tell me what they have in their registry at the following key? Exporting the entire thing would be even better!

HKLM\System\StorageManager

Specifically, I want to know what the PNPUnloadDelay is, and the PNPWaitIODelay is.... I'd LOVE the export of the entire key though, but, I'll take those two keys too :)

Thanks!

Maarten_NL

21st February 2007, 09:58 AM

Same here... AKU 3.3 and 2gb Sandisk:

Sometimes the card is gone, but I don't get the Storagecard2 when reinserting.. it just pops back as StorageCard and works again. (so the stupid camera asks every time I want to take a pic if I want to use the storagecard)

Sometimes when I access the StorageCard from my PC, I see the directories in the root, but when I try to access them activesync or TotalCommander just hangs..

and just random hangups of the complete OS, SR fixes everything... *sigh* feels like windows 98 :(

piannetta

21st February 2007, 11:25 AM

Well until I came across this thread, I thought it was just me. This issue is annoying. I'm getting the second issue where the card is there but the folders are empty.

I really hope a fix is found.

Pete

hardcore

21st February 2007, 02:52 PM

Just wanted to add my experience to the mix. Same problem here.

HTC Test AKU 3.3 ROM, running on a Dopod 838 Pro. 2GB Sandisk minisd card. The card disappears after a while, causing lockups.

ckd

21st February 2007, 04:15 PM

Well, here's another "me too" to throw in to the mix...

My card is a SanDisk, however it's a 1 gigger... This happened once or twice over the last 6 months, but now happens with some regularity since upgrading to the 2.06 ROM...

Carl

duman95

21st February 2007, 04:21 PM

Here are the values you are looking for those 2 reg entries.

They are both dword 4096.

Hope that helps.

weinson

21st February 2007, 04:32 PM

To add to the chorus ... I have the new cingular rom, and same problem on my 2gb disk ... annoying ... and I have no confidence this will be fixed when and if the "official" ROM is released (especially since it is allegedly going to happen in realatively short order), so it is up to us on sites like this to find and fix the ROM problems/issues created by the providers.

megarek

21st February 2007, 04:38 PM

I cannot fully confirm this as a fix yet, but I used to have problems with my 2gig sandisk card lockingup on the old and new cingular roms. This is what has helped me: After my last hard-reset, I installed SK Tools. SK Tools has a tool to format the SD card from within the device. I formatted the SD card in SK tools using the same settings as the main storage (FAT32, 512 sector size, Creation of backup copy of FAT table). Since then, I've noticed that my SD card very rarely dissapears.

Ross

elivne

21st February 2007, 04:41 PM

It happens both in 2.06 and in 2.05.
I can find the specific reason, tried it after HR and EXT. ROM install - still happened, it`s not a program we all have.

it`s a but in the new ROMs

LegolasTheElf

21st February 2007, 04:47 PM

Ok, I changed the two registry entries to 8196, and that seems to help a bit...

Here's the keys:

[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196

Make the change and see if that helps you at all..

LegolasTheElf

21st February 2007, 05:29 PM

I've also found that there is a device called 'dsk1' in the registry that would (if you didn't make your ext_rom visible) be the SD Card. dsk2 is the SD Card AFTER ext_rom opened, but, dsk2 does not appear in the registry. I don't have time to dissect the registry now, but, I'm guessing that we really need a new device 'dsk2' that basically duplicates what dsk1 would have for information/dlls, etc..

Someone who is better than me at registry tweaks, etc. can feel free to take a look until I have time to investigate further.

But, changing the unloaddelay times to 8196 really seems to make a difference to me so far.

wwwes

21st February 2007, 06:09 PM

OK, I guess it is contagious, because it just started happening to me after my post last night on this thread.

I'll try to reformat the card to FAT32 (it is 16 right now)and change the delay keys as shown in this post and post my results.

I actually still had about 3/4 of the content still showing up, and many of the directory names were gibberish. "a little of the old in-out" fixed it right up.
(clockwork orange reference)

This is a BIG bug. I bet HTC won't fix it......

piannetta

21st February 2007, 10:13 PM

elivne

22nd February 2007, 01:32 AM

my card is FAT32 - it wont help.

Sleuth255

22nd February 2007, 05:10 AM

Same exact issues here. I've put in the reghacks too. I should know in a few days if it's having an effect or not.

Goatmaster

22nd February 2007, 08:35 AM

About those regedits:

Why do things on SD stop working after a suspend/resume?

When a PocketPC suspends, it powers off most of the hardware in the system, including the part of the SD slot that tells whether or not a card is there. While the system is suspended, you could potentially eject the card and stick a different one in. If you did that, any apps that have files open on the card would get very confused. This almost never happens, but it's something we need to guard against. So, when we power the system back on, we check to see if there's a card there. If it is, we check with it to see if it's the same one as was there before. If it doesn't respond, or responds differently than we expect, we unload it and close any files that were open before.

The trouble is, we can't wait forever for the card to respond to us. There are programs trying to communicate with that card, and we're stalling them. So we've set an amount of time that we'll wait for the card before unloading it (we call it the "PnPUnloadDelay"). Importantly, some phones can power on their SD system quickly and some take more time. Because of this, the OEM chooses the correct PnPUnloadDelay for his hardware, and we rely on his setting. If something happens that makes the SD card not respond in the time specified by the PnPUnloadDelay, we assume it's a new card.

A lot of things could cause this to happen. The card you have might be a lot slower than the OEM expected you to use. This is a place where buying a faster card can help. Or some application might be running out of control and causing the system to run slower than normal, making everything take longer. Or, maybe, the OEM made a mistake and set a delay that's just too low.

The PnPUnloadDelay is shown in the registry, but unfortunately changing the registry doesn't affect the value. Only the OEM can change the value.

Note that Smartphones don't ever suspend, so they don't have these sorts of issues.

Link: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/01/12/everything-you-want-to-know-about-sd.aspx

Interesting comment on that page about preventing SD cards becoming corrupted:
The SD 2.0 spec allows for FAT32 format, but non 2.0 cards should be formatted as FAT16 in order to be compatible with all devices. They could be getting card corruption caused by surprise power loss on the device. IF they don’t plan on inter-op with other devices, then they could potentially re-format the card using TFAT (they’d need to do it programmatically as there is no UI to do this on a WM device). TFAT will work fine on SD cards and should eliminate corruption, but we don’t support TFAT for any inter-op scenarios.
Though no util that can TFAT a card as of right now apparently.

ratcom

24th February 2007, 04:23 PM

Ive not long had a Hermes so coming from the Wizard I had to pick myself up a memory card quickly, I was only able to source a SanDisk 256MB card on the day, now Ive just replaced it with a Kingston 1GIG card and WOW instantly my phone is quicker and I dont get any hangs or corruption anymore! I cannot tell you how much BETTER my phone feels, I for one will NEVER buy another sandisk card again!

LegolasTheElf

24th February 2007, 06:10 PM

The crucial 1GB card definately helps, as does the registry setting. Instead of it unmounting multiple times a day, it only happens once every other day or so now... Hopefully WM6 fixes this bug.

Sleuth255

25th February 2007, 01:37 AM

I've not had an issue with my 2GB sandisk since I made the registry changes. I really couldn't understand the rationale behind the m$ blog regarding the fact that the hive setting was used at startup and that the registry entry itself made no difference. I wasn't aware of the fact that original, unchangeable registry entries exist that have changeable counterparts. My experience has always been that if the value was unchangeable it would revert after a reset even when you made sure the registry was flushed properly. This isn't the case with these. The values remain after a reset.

eagle 1

25th February 2007, 02:02 AM

What were your values before you changed them? Mine are at 1500 not 4096, and so far I have not had any issues on 2.06 cingular with 1.34.00.10 radio

[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:1500
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:1500

And I am using a sandisk 2gb card

Prerna

25th February 2007, 11:19 AM

I used to experience this with my Wizard (creation of Storage Card2), after tweaking the PIE and attachements' cache to SD card.

The same problem had not happened to my Hermes until today (...)

I got PIE' cache on Storage Card.

I installed WM5 Storage yesterday (could that contribute?)

My SD is a SanDisk 2gb. (I think I'll never buy again SanDisk)

Now, what is the best way to get everything back to normal (no more Storage Card2)? I can't remember how I had fixed it with my Wizard long time ago.

Thanks!

walshieau

25th February 2007, 11:33 AM

yeah im having the same issues... not sure if this is related... i use windows media player a lot and everytime i have to rebuild the playlist/db as it keeps getting corrupt... ive tried fat16 and fat32...

sleuth did those reg hacks fix yours??

tsc

25th February 2007, 01:33 PM

In cingular aku3.3, in 2.05 AKU3.3 WWE, RUS I have same problem with Sandisk 2Gb.
FAT16 or FAT32, 512 bytes or 4096 bytes, formatted SKtools or PC, changing registry
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:4096 or 8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:4096 or 8196

NO changed this issue.
Files on card is disappears randomly 1 time in 1-2 days.
Card reinserting or SR solve problem.

LegolasTheElf

26th February 2007, 05:30 AM

I've had more luck with the card not disappearing since I did the hack and also, relocated my email to the internal memory (yeah, that sucks, but, it's better than the whole phone being screwed because the SD card shows up as 'Storage Card2')... Too bad there isn't a magic button that says, "Fix all my problems now" :)

Sleuth255

26th February 2007, 05:34 AM

Mine were at 4096 originally and I changed both to 8192. I haven't had a failure since I made the change.

LegolasTheElf

26th February 2007, 05:37 AM

Mine were at 4096 originally and I changed both to 8192. I haven't had a failure since I made the change.
I'm surprised that it's working so well with your 2GB SanDisk MicroSD.. I've been using the 1GB Crucial MicroSD in addition to the reg. hacks I posted and the moving the email/etc... It's rock solid now.. Of course, not exactly the layout I'd prefer, but, it's a business device for me, so, stability is more important than having it 'exactly' how I want.

LegolasTheElf

26th February 2007, 05:41 AM

I updated the wiki with the reg edits and this thread. It seems to be fixing a lot of people problems, so I thought it appropriate :)

LuckeeLou

26th February 2007, 07:25 PM

Now, what is the best way to get everything back to normal (no more Storage Card2)? I can't remember how I had fixed it with my Wizard long time ago.

I dont' know if it's the best way, but this is what I did:

1. Went into Messages-Menu-Tools-Options-Storage and unclicked 'Store attachments on storage card'.

2. Opened a Total Commander and changed the IEM reg hack entires. In the cookies, cookies and history keys, I changed 'Storage Card' to 'test'.

3. Opened IE so that 'test' will be created in the root directory of the Mobile Device.

4. Soft reset.

5. Opened file explorer and deleted Storage Card from the root directory of the Mobile Device.

6. Soft reset. When rebooted, Storage Card 2 should be Storage Card.

7. Opened a Total Commander and changed the IEM reg hack entires. In the cookies, cookies and history keys, I changed 'test' back to 'Storage Card'.

8. Deleted the IEM folder from Storage Card. (Didn't know if this was necessary but felt that it couldn't hurt).

9. Opened IE to create IEM on Storage Card.

10. Soft rest.

11. Deleted 'Test' from the root directory of the Mobile Device.

12. Performed the Reg Hack in this thread.

13. Sent the message attachments back to Storage Card.

It was laborious but much better than a hard reset. Everything seems to be well so far.

dy2592

26th February 2007, 07:32 PM

Just thought I add to the list. I have the same exact problems people are describing here. I noticed it seems to be on the the 3.2 and 3.3 roms.

ibeqa

26th February 2007, 08:00 PM

I used to have this kind of problem with my himalaya device. I had a delkin 512 mb card and a takeMS 512 mb but both had Toshiba chip (or whatever it is). Then I bought PQI 1 GB card and never had this issue. Now I use 1 GB kingston and I don't have those problems (I hope never will).

robt2379

26th February 2007, 08:32 PM

I have a Sandisk 1GB card. Never had this problem until I upgraded to the Test AKU3.3 rom.
The most consistent failure comes when I have TT6 running in the car, switch off to pop into a shop or similar leaving TT running, return to the car and switch back on. About one in three times it starts with the licence screen and then cant find the maps.
Ive done the regedit today, so we'll see if it helps. Only ever had the problem when I switch the device back on, never mid session. Happens once every few days.

spastico

26th February 2007, 08:41 PM

So,
I can just make this change, and that's it?

[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196

robt2379

26th February 2007, 08:44 PM

Thats what Ive done.
Dont know if its worked yet . . .

LuckeeLou

26th February 2007, 09:16 PM

I performed that registry tweak 2 days ago. The device hasn't lost the card (Sandisk 2GB) yet. Prior to the tweak I was losing the card at least once a day.

spastico

26th February 2007, 09:24 PM

I'm Sorry,
I guess I wasn't clear.

Can I just make the reg change, soft reset, and that's it.
or do we need to do this: ?

I dont' know if it's the best way, but this is what I did:

1. Went into Messages-Menu-Tools-Options-Storage and unclicked 'Store attachments on storage card'.

2. Opened a Total Commander and changed the IEM reg hack entires. In the cookies, cookies and history keys, I changed 'Storage Card' to 'test'.

3. Opened IE so that 'test' will be created in the root directory of the Mobile Device.

4. Soft reset.

5. Opened file explorer and deleted Storage Card from the root directory of the Mobile Device.

6. Soft reset. When rebooted, Storage Card 2 should be Storage Card.

7. Opened a Total Commander and changed the IEM reg hack entires. In the cookies, cookies and history keys, I changed 'test' back to 'Storage Card'.

8. Deleted the IEM folder from Storage Card. (Didn't know if this was necessary but felt that it couldn't hurt).

9. Opened IE to create IEM on Storage Card.

10. Soft rest.

11. Deleted 'Test' from the root directory of the Mobile Device.

12. Performed the Reg Hack in this thread.

13. Sent the message attachments back to Storage Card.

It was laborious but much better than a hard reset. Everything seems to be well so far.

LegolasTheElf

26th February 2007, 09:35 PM

That process isn't necessary. Make the reg. change, reboot. Done.

IF you see a 'Storage Card' **AND** a 'Storage Card2', just copy all the contents of Storage Card to Storage Card2 and rename Storage Card to Storage Card.bad. Reboot. Done.

LuckeeLou

26th February 2007, 09:35 PM

Those instructions are for getting rid of Storage Card 2.

You can just perform the reg tweak:
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196

Prerna

27th February 2007, 09:59 PM

Thanks LuckeeLou!

I wonder if this issue will or not appear on the WM6. Got it since today only and no prob so far...

Sleuth255

27th February 2007, 10:53 PM

Now that the cat's out of the bag so to speak, I can say that WM6 has the exact same issue

Good news though: I have not seen the problem since I put the reg changes in.

LuckeeLou

27th February 2007, 11:01 PM

I noticed the same thing. I performed the reg changes but still had problems. I had to remove SBSH Pocket Weather from my storage card onto the device. Everything appears to be good now.

Sleuth255

28th February 2007, 05:40 AM

point taken: I don't run any apps from my SD card.

Kassad

28th February 2007, 04:47 PM

I had the same problem and after switching to WM6 Vanilla it got worse: I havent got a storage card at all in the explorer (or memory settings). It was there and functioned, then the problem with the empty directories occured, so I removed the SD card and put it back in. After that the storage card just dissapeared.. I did a couple of soft resets, removed the SD card, changed the registry but noluck so far..

LuckeeLou

28th February 2007, 06:33 PM

Kassad

28th February 2007, 10:45 PM

Do you have a lot of apps on your storage card? I think the biggest culprit are apps that affect the today screen. I moved all of those apps into device storage and don't have that problem anymore. I am running the xda live v0.10 rom.

nope, all I had on my today screen was installed in device storage. Now I dont have storage card at all so moving software around isnt really an isue ;-)

LegolasTheElf

2nd March 2007, 05:22 PM

I've still experienced the problem, but, I've had a good thought....

Those people who are having issues with the SD card disappearing OR some of the files on the card vanishing, etc.. How many *files* (not directories) do you have on the ROOT of the card? In other words, how many files are located at:

\Storage Card

I noticed that mine (which had quite a bit) took a while to show all the files in the file explorer. I thought that perhaps the system is trying to catalog the entire root of the card, and is running out of time, then, unloading it. SO, here's what I did:

I moved all the files from the root of the card into their own directories (I actually made it all pretty by creating subdirectories for things as appropriate).

What I'm really looking for is feedback... Is *this* the reason for the SD card disappearing?

Maarten_NL

2nd March 2007, 05:37 PM

I have no files in the root of the SD card... and only 6 dirs.

I think it is just a drive issue, not a filesystem or cardproblem.

LegolasTheElf

2nd March 2007, 05:42 PM

@Maarten_NL: Did you apply the reg. hack? Are you still having the problem?

Kassad

3rd March 2007, 08:31 AM

I just formatted my SD card and can see it again in my explorer, turned out the files on the card went corrupt. Restored the backup I luckily made of the card and things seem to be ok again.

at10ti0n

3rd March 2007, 05:11 PM

i now got this error too on wm6 xda live with a 2 gb san disk. i see the files/folders but when i try to use them it says file is corrupt
and when i checked the reg keys both were 8196 by default...

LegolasTheElf

3rd March 2007, 05:41 PM

ok, I give up.. I was having a terrible time last night with my card, so I changed the value to 15000... It got worse! I changed it to 1500 and it got better.. So, with that in mind, if 8196 isn't working for you, try 1500.... Let me know if it helps..

Maarten_NL

3rd March 2007, 06:07 PM

@Maarten_NL: Did you apply the reg. hack? Are you still having the problem?

I just did... so I will let you know in a few days how the reghack works for me.

pmm0724

5th March 2007, 12:58 AM

I have seen this problem on multiple WM5 phones and you won't believe what fixed it: Make sure the today screen is the windows default.

LegolasTheElf

5th March 2007, 02:04 AM

The theme should be the windows default? or it should not have loaded 3rd party today screen plugins?

edwinyuen

6th March 2007, 05:01 PM

I guess I'll chime in. I was losing files off my SD card several times a day, even after I edited the registry settings with the 8196 value. I just hard reset my phone for the first time since my upgrade to the AT&T ROM and I'll see how that goes. I didn't change my default today screen away from the AT&T one, although I do have SPb Mobile Shell installed.

Kikouyou

6th March 2007, 06:36 PM

All my today apps are in main memory or extended memory. but the card still disappear from time to time whatever the registery twiks I have tried as suggested in this thread.

I have a question about the sandisk 2gb cards as there are 2 cards of this type:
- Regular one (no special marking)
- Ultra 2

Have everybody tried both of them?
I experienced more stability with the regular one over the past with OS 1.26
The Ultra got corrupted after a few deep shutdown (press and hold power button)
I need to try it again with Vanillia and see if I get the same issues...

sirtrini

6th March 2007, 10:37 PM

I only have the regular Sandisk 2gb. I had no troubles with the card "disappearing" on older ROMs, but since I've upgraded to the Test AKU3.3 ROM the problems have started.

The only cure that has worked so far is to eject and reinsert before I use an app that requires the card.

Applestar

7th March 2007, 08:07 AM

...there are a huge amount of (perfectly) faked SANDISK-Cards on the market. And their data storage & transfer quality is totally different. So make sure its an original one. There is a big discussion about this in Germany right now.

BoarderMX

7th March 2007, 09:14 AM

I'm having the same problem but only since the upgrading using WM6 Vanilla

ghz

7th March 2007, 11:00 AM

I have this problem as well. The other that I have problem related to memory card is that, the phone take long time to boot to today screen but not if I remove the card prior to reboot.

Now I have install WM6 Vanilla + format the card to FAT32 + change registry setting for the last 24 hours. So far still working well.

I have an 2GB sandisk memory card.

agovinoveritas

7th March 2007, 05:25 PM

I have the same annoying problem at first I thought it could have been a bug after I un-mounted the ROM. Since when I got to Messaging > Storage the only "extra memory" I can see in order to save my emails is the system and the extended ROM. No memory card.

Also, from time to time I will click on an app that resides on the memory card and I will get an error stating that the app could not be found and to reinstall.

After I remove Storage out and back in again, it works without problem.
This is just annoying.

Cheers and also sharing....

Oh, and PS:
TyTN using Vanilla WM6 and all its goodies.

at10ti0n

7th March 2007, 09:17 PM

i never had this problem on aku 2.3 which i was using for over 2 months. From aku 3.3 and now with wm6 same thing... - (at least xda live 0.10, v0.20 is in testing for me, will post results)

LegolasTheElf

8th March 2007, 04:48 PM

I just got a new 1GB card; a Kingston. It is working perfectly so far with the reg. hack.

Apparently, the real issue is that SD cards that are made in Taiwan aren't as good as the ones from Japan (which is where the Kingston cards are from). I've seen a few other references to Taiwan vs. Japan for ALL PocketPC devices; they all seem to conclude that the Japan cards (read: Kingston) are MUCH more reliable. It also seems a bit thicker than the Taiwan card.

Highly recommended!

Sleuth255

8th March 2007, 04:59 PM

no issues here since installing the reghacks. Mine's a made in Taiwan Sandisk too. Of course, it was also one of the first 2GB micro SD's on the market too.

LegolasTheElf

8th March 2007, 05:15 PM

Odd.. Both my Sandisk 2GB (Taiwan) and Crucial 1GB (Taiwan) showed the problem, even after my hack. The Kingston is perfect so far. But, I have a lot of stuff (although no Today screen apps) on the SD Card. Might be the difference?

Sleuth255

8th March 2007, 05:20 PM

Could be. I don't have any apps installed on SD, I only have exchange attachments, documents, music/video and backups stored there.

jello_e

9th March 2007, 06:48 PM

now that you guys mention it, i think i have this problem too!

i have a panasonic 1gb micro sd and before upgrading to the AKU 3.3 Test rom i never had this problem.

i noticed it the other day when i keep losing my desktop customizations several times a day. i'm running wisbar advance and WA Desktop (new Beta Version, which allows themes to be stored on the SD Card).

i guess it's a bug in the ROM?

eagle 1

9th March 2007, 08:30 PM

DId anyone notice a change in these values after installing XDA live.20?

Mine are set extremely high after installing xda live
HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:33174
"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:33174

in old cingular 2.06, i think they were 1500.

I am experiencing the will not wake up after suspend now, Haven't noticed any issues with missing files or directories tho...

I am really beginning to think that the "WIll not wake up" issue and missing files and directories issue are related to os use or checking of the SD card... I guess, maybe this weekend I will hard reset and not use the sdcard to test it,,,,but phone seems almost useless without apps and sdcard....

LegolasTheElf

9th March 2007, 09:28 PM

Check out the post on page 1: it has the information needed from my testing to solve this issue.

I tried three different cards, many reg edits, and this is the final word IMHO on this matter :) I'm very happy now with a SD Card that *NEVER* disappears, and is 100% stable!

LegolasTheElf

9th March 2007, 09:30 PM

HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:33174
"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:33174

You *really* don't want that long of a delay... In my testing a delay that was TOO long caused issues too. Basically, if the card did disappear, it would take too long to remove/reinsert it (so the OS noticed the change), and it was possible have the SD Card showing up as Storage Card2 as a result... Or, the remove/reinsert wouldn't actually fix the issue with the longer delay until the second or third remove/insert.

kyphur

9th March 2007, 10:24 PM

Read the WMXL v0.20 Thread, there is a fix posted.
DId anyone notice a change in these values after installing XDA live.20?

Mine are set extremely high after installing xda live
HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:33174
"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:33174

in old cingular 2.06, i think they were 1500.

I am experiencing the will not wake up after suspend now, Haven't noticed any issues with missing files or directories tho...

I am really beginning to think that the "WIll not wake up" issue and missing files and directories issue are related to os use or checking of the SD card... I guess, maybe this weekend I will hard reset and not use the sdcard to test it,,,,but phone seems almost useless without apps and sdcard....

LegolasTheElf

9th March 2007, 11:21 PM

Kyphur,

I think you're talking about an entirely different bug....

eagle 1

10th March 2007, 12:38 AM

Not sure what fix you are referring to kyphur? I read all three xda live threads and do not see any verified fix for this sdcard issue. Can you tell me if the values in base rom are set as the following, if yes why?

As for the high values
Mine are set extremely high after installing xda live
HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:33174
"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:33174

i did not set these values. These are the values that are set after hard resetting the tytn after installing XDA live .20 No apps executed or sdcard inserted? Does anyone else have these values after a hard reset with XDA Live .20 installed?

So LegolestheElf are you saying the following is the fix? I noticed you have changed your values several time throught the thread??

After working at the issue for a while, here is the end results:

Do the following reg. hack:
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196

Additionally, the Kingston 1GB MicroSD Card is *much* better (Japanese made) than the SanDisk or even the Crucial :eek: MicroSD (Taiwan).

Amlethae

10th March 2007, 12:44 AM

The problem is that you're reading your numbers in Decimal... 8196 in Hex == 33174 in Decimal.

Now what we could use is some clarity about which base we're supposed to be in when we input 8196.

eagle 1

10th March 2007, 12:55 AM

The problem is that you're reading your numbers in Decimal... 8196 in Hex == 33174 in Decimal.

Now what we could use is some clarity about which base we're supposed to be in when we input 8196.

You are correct!

My universal running WM6 has the values at 4096. SO as others have stated the 8196 is the best setting?

Also, what is the best format level?

Currently showing Fat 16? Some have suggested fat32, what is best?

LegolasTheElf

10th March 2007, 02:08 AM

Sorry, you're right. It is 8096 in DECIMAL, so the correct entry will look like this:

0x2004 (8196)

0x2004 HEX
8196 DEC

The problem (and why there were some other numbers on the thread) is because this is a two-tiered problem.

First, the values are too low, and secondly some cards are even slower. But, increasing the values didn't make a super-slow card work better :(

I had **TWO** Taiwan SD Cards from TWO different manufacturers, and both failed. The ONE Japan made card worked with this fix perfectly. Also, other people on this thread (and other boards too) seem to have much less issue with the Kingston (Japan) memory vs. any Taiwan memory cards.

I really did try a ton of different things to make it work, and this (reg. edit and Kingston card) are the perfect combo. I've had **NO** issues with this setup for DAYS. Contrast that to losing the cards info multiple times a day! To keep it a level playing field I literally copied the information onto each card in the exact same way, and they all had the exact same programs running from the card. There was no issues of one card/setting having less info on it, etc..

For the record, I use FAT32, that is, by design, a little more tolerant of soft-resets than FAT16 would be. I format the card in my SD card reader (in my computer), then copy the info onto the card.

Anyways, sorry for the hex/dec problem, I'll correct it in the first post.

Amlethae

10th March 2007, 05:36 AM

Thanks for clarifying this... I found that XDA Live .20.1 had the wrong values set (8196 in Hex) and needed to be fixed. I hope that someone figures this out before it continues to be a problem (my SD card had problems immediately).

lpsi2000

10th March 2007, 05:42 AM

One thing that I have observed every since I have been having this issue, it will only start to happen after i attached the phone to the PC via USB. I have kept my phone away from my computer an active sync for almost two days after a soft reset and I did not experience the issue.

LegolasTheElf

10th March 2007, 06:02 AM

It would help to post the following:

1) What brand of SD card do you use?
2) Where was the card MANUFACTURED (it will say ON THE MicroSD card itself)
3) Have you applied the registry fix shown in post #1?
4) What file format are you using? (FAT or FAT32)
5) What TYPE of 'disappearing' are you seeing? (refer to post 1 for the different types of disappearing SD card issues)

mixmaven

10th March 2007, 06:36 AM

Eagle, are you using tweaks2k? I noticed mine was at 33174 and I had set system tricks, panel 5, increase pnp. I set is manually to 8196. I would be curious if people without memory cards and XDA live are having lock ups... let us know if you try.

-mix
DId anyone notice a change in these values after installing XDA live.20?

Mine are set extremely high after installing xda live
HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:33174
"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:33174

in old cingular 2.06, i think they were 1500.

I am experiencing the will not wake up after suspend now, Haven't noticed any issues with missing files or directories tho...

I am really beginning to think that the "WIll not wake up" issue and missing files and directories issue are related to os use or checking of the SD card... I guess, maybe this weekend I will hard reset and not use the sdcard to test it,,,,but phone seems almost useless without apps and sdcard....

eagle 1

10th March 2007, 05:56 PM

Eagle, are you using tweaks2k? I noticed mine was at 33174 and I had set system tricks, panel 5, increase pnp. I set is manually to 8196. I would be curious if people without memory cards and XDA live are having lock ups... let us know if you try.

-mix

Yea, I have used tweak2k, but not since I installed xda live. I did find that yes, xda live has set it to the 33174. So, I backed up the sdcard, reformated at low level and restored back (pocket mechanic). I then set the parameters to the 8196 decimal. I have not had any of the problems with wake up since the format, but I have had the problem where the directories are empty and it looks like there is no free space. But it definitely runs better after the format and the 8196 parameters. Much more stable.

LegolasTheElf
It would help to post the following:

1) What brand of SD card do you use?
2) Where was the card MANUFACTURED (it will say ON THE MicroSD card itself)
3) Have you applied the registry fix shown in post #1?
4) What file format are you using? (FAT or FAT32)
5) What TYPE of 'disappearing' are you seeing? (refer to post 1 for the different types of disappearing SD card issues)

1) Sansdisk 2BG
2) Taiwan
3) Applied the fix
4) Originally had fat 16 and reformated to Fat 32
5) Directories look empty, but only once since reformatting

jszeto

10th March 2007, 08:12 PM

IT Can be fix ! Have you fixed it yet ??

I know the problem is by the Outlook, if u have tick the box of --> "Option" -> "Storage" -> 'When availiable, use this storage card to store attachments' !!

it is because of that, ifself try to make a save to "Store Card" , so its will create a save under /Store Card/.../...

This is why there will have been a folder took place, and crash it originally assigned SD card's name "Store Card", would now become "Store Card2" was therefore the result of reassigning !!

jszeto

10th March 2007, 08:17 PM

The solution I have, for the Missing SD card !

1) Never tick the box, on the Storage Option of Outlook!

OR

2) Never pull ur SD card out! Switch off PPC, before doing So !!

Choose to do either one, would avoid the issue!!

IF there is any better method, pls pls do PM me, Pls let me know!

Thanks every XDA's man ! U guys a greatest people

LegolasTheElf

10th March 2007, 08:24 PM

IF there is any better method, pls pls do PM me, Pls let me know!

Thanks every XDA's man ! U guys a greatest people
Did you even bother to read this thread through? There is a two-part fix posted in post #1 of this thread.

silent_killa

11th March 2007, 04:00 AM

Just thought i would comment on this as i have never once experienced this issue and i have had my tytn for roughly 6 months with the same card. I will admit though that i didn't try the AKU 3.3 ROM though. Have used Orange UK original ROM, HTC SA 1.35, WM6 Vanilla, WMXL v.10 & v.20 all with no issue.

Kingston 1GB
Made in Japan
FAT16

S.K.

aquanaut88

11th March 2007, 04:57 AM

I've had a sandisk 1gb microSD (made in taiwan) since August, use it every day loaded with both navigation maps and navigation software, cab and media files. If it is removed while the device is powered on, the card cannot be accessed unless repowering the device. I think this is part of jszeto's comment and is correct. For example, after applying the 8196 decimal tweak/fix, the device exhibits the same behaviour lunder WM6. So, if this is some kind of fix, it may work for others but has no affect with my combination of OS and hardware.

Cheers

at10ti0n

11th March 2007, 09:16 AM

same here: applied fix on wm6 xda live 0.20 but after some time it disappears. My phone is orange spv m3100.
And my type of disappear is i think type 2

Aeroadster

12th March 2007, 06:14 PM

I never had a problem with my card disappearing before until I removed (while the phone was on) and popped it into a PC running Vista to copy over some files.

It's always worked and been rediscovered when I've removed it (while phone was on) and put the card into my laptop running XP SP2.

I made the registry changes taking care to enter the correct entries for Decimal values and the card is still no longer detectable.

I can read and write to the card when using XP or Vista, but not on WM5.

:(

sirtrini

12th March 2007, 07:29 PM

This applies to both XDAlive v.20 and the new LVSW WM6 ROMS

These settings never worked for me. Programs on the memory card after a while would hang or not launch at all. This was a non stop nuisance since leaveing 2.3AKUS.

HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:33174 or 8096 or 4096
"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:33174 or 8096 or 4096

After a few days of running it like this, I have had no problems with launching apps from the storage card.

My settings are:

HKLM\System\StorageManager]
"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:0 (DEC)
"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:0 (DEC)

for information purposes I'm using a 2gb Sandisk (Taiwan made) card - I believe it's real - but you never can tell any more!

Let me know if it works for you too!

Sleuth255

12th March 2007, 11:10 PM

I've taken M$ advice to heart and baked the 8196 settings into a new WM6 build. I'm testing with it now and will try installing stuff to run from the card (which seems to be where everything chokes).

eagle 1

13th March 2007, 01:31 AM

Yes, the 8196 seems to work the best, but still has issues. Setting it to Zero or other value causes my device to have the "Wake up issue"

The issue we have been discussing has nothing to do with removing the card, and then causing storage card2, etc. that is a very common, and well known issue.

The issue is as legolastheelf states in the first post. Setting the parameter to 8196, eliminates the wake up issue, but still occassional you can't access the files on the card. When this happens you also will get errors when trying to access the pgm. With 8196, you can see all the files, but they are inaccessable. Also if you look at the memory settings for the storage card, it shows as full or no free space.

For me, it started happening on aku2.3 and above...

I still wonder, why the XDA Live roms' have the value set at 33174 and also tweaks2k also sets this value....Apparently, this setting used to be advised??

Kikouyou

13th March 2007, 02:37 AM

the 0 setting worked for me today

This rom (Vanillia with all the fixes to get it to what I want) is so stable that I have not rebooted yet today!
However, I did a lot of on/off
All today's apps are in main or extended memory
But SD apps are still working up to now...

lpsi2000

13th March 2007, 05:10 AM

My device was already set to 8196 and I am still having this issue. As I mentioned before, it only start happening after I connect to PC with Active Sync.

LegolasTheElf

13th March 2007, 05:29 AM

Just FYI, I purchased another 1GB Kingston MicroSD card and instead of being made in Japan, this one was made in TAIWAN!!! :eek: argh! Both were from Amazon.com, both were the SAME item #, just one is from Taiwan. I've installed it in my parents' 8525 to see if it works or not, so, I'll report back if it's a Japan/Taiwan thing or a Kingston/everything else thing :)

If not, I'm going to call Kingston (and Crucial too probably) and bitch to them about their crappy Taiwan SD cards... Maybe we can get some real satisfaction! :D

LegolasTheElf

13th March 2007, 05:45 PM

Ok.. Here's the result: the Taiwan cards DO NOT WORK AT ALL!

I called Kingston and spoke to a very nice lady who was quite interested in the information I had gathered about the card and she shared with me that the Japan cards use a Toshiba controller; the Taiwan use something different. So, the bottom line here is this:

There is a PHYSICAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE JAPAN AND TAIWAN CARDS! THEY USE ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CONTROLLERS **AND** KINGSTON CONFIRMED THAT **ALL** TAIWAN CARDS MAY BE INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE HERMES AS THEY ALL USE THE SAME CONTROLLER!!

So, if your Hermes loses cards, and it's not a Japanese made card, get it replaced for one that is. There is NO WAY to get a Taiwan card to operate 100% perfectly with the Hermes!

stewcp

13th March 2007, 06:09 PM

LegolasTheElf

13th March 2007, 06:14 PM

Well, I'm doing the whole RMA thing with Kingston; you may want to reference this website when you call :)

Crucial does NOT have a Japan card.

SanDisk - no idea.. haven't called them yet..

Kingston WILL SEND the Japan card on request!

popart

13th March 2007, 06:45 PM

Hi,

I think problem has nothing to do with make or origin of card. Maybe the kingston is better but sandisk works fine:

First of all I did not have to change anything in registry.
I had the problem with all roms acu 3.3 & wm6.
Most of my software is installed on the sdcard except the main today screen plugins.
After alot of greaf I managed to solve the problem by doing the following simple thing:

I opened options in messenger and went to storage option
then i removed the when available use the storage card to store attachments.

After this every has been fine for over a week now. I tried different roms and all is ok. Problem must have been solved as I was having the problem almost every single day before.

Hope this helped

Regards
Popart ;)

LegolasTheElf

13th March 2007, 06:49 PM

I think problem has nothing to do with make or origin of card. Maybe the kingston is better but sandisk works fine:

Well, Kingston said there is a difference between the cards. I trust them.

First of all I did not have to change anything in registry.
I had the problem with all roms acu 3.3 & wm6.
Most of my software is installed on the sdcard except the main today screen plugins.
After alot of greaf I managed to solve the problem by doing the following simple thing:

I opened options in messenger and went to storage option
then i removed the when available use the storage card to store attachments.

After this every has been fine for over a week now. I tried different roms and all is ok. Problem must have been solved as I was having the problem almost every single day before.

Great.. Glad that works for you. My mail on the other hand, both the messages themselves AND the attachments are on the SD Card; and have been like that for a week or so with NO issues whatsoever. I also have a ton of other programs on the SD card and it works 100% flawlessly. I'm guessing that's better than your setup... :rolleyes:

Applestar

13th March 2007, 07:24 PM

BTW: Thse tweaks are already part of the XDA-live ROM. No need to change them there... (v0.1 ff)

LegolasTheElf

13th March 2007, 07:41 PM

Kingston's RMA department in the USA got the entire story on this whole issue. So, if you want to buy a Japan Kingston card, you can call them directly and *request* the Japan made card specifically. They can and will ship the Japan card specifically on request. Very impressed with the customer service with Kingston! Highly recommended! :)

FYI, the reg. hack probably has a lot less to do with the SD card issue than the controller in the card (which you can determine by finding the origin of manufacture. Japan has the Toshiba, which you want). However, the reg. hack seems to also have the positive effect of helping with the device never waking up with the SD Card inserted, so, it's definately worth the hack for that issue alone.

But, between the Kingston Japan SD Card and the reg. hack, I've been HEAVILY using the SD Card for about a week without a SINGLE failure!

Heavy usage includes:

1) ALL Emails *AND* attachments on card
2) ALL games on card
3) FlexWallet database (activesynced to desktop) on card
4) Iambic VehicleManager (activesynced to desktop) on card
5) Lots of other programs and utilities, some started on startup, all on card.

NO failures!

Kikouyou

13th March 2007, 08:26 PM

Can you provide the exact reference of this japan card and where to buy it?

Tx

robt2379

14th March 2007, 12:21 PM

I think that sometimes people can become lost in a problem and forget somebasic facts. I have a Tytn and a 1gb sandisk card. The original supplied rom (cant remember the number , but AKU2.3 had *no* problems with disappearing cards. Since I have upgrade through AKU3.3 to WM6, my problems with card access have become worse and worse.
If it worked on the early roms then its hard to see a controller incompatability, just something has changed in rom that no longer works properly with my card.

Its a real pain too.

Rob

JasenR

14th March 2007, 02:37 PM

robt2379

I agree! I have a Taiwan card that worked fine until I started playing with the new ROMs. I was having all the problems mentioned here so I just went back to my old ROM because I needed to get some stability in my device and as soon as I "Downgraded" everything was good to go again.

As a side note, one of the things that caught my attention when playing with WM6 is that running the Ext ROM tweak amplified the problem. Maybe it and WM6 aren't playing nice together? I wanted to check into that further, but 2 weeks with an unstable device was enough for me.

LegolasTheElf

14th March 2007, 05:38 PM

The original rom worked just fine with the Taiwan cards; you're right. However, this issue isn't limited to the Hermes. Almost *ALL* PPC's have issues with SD Cards for some reason or other. In this case, I've found a card and reg. hack that allows you to have NO ISSUES with the card.

Let's put this in perspective. A new Kingston Japan 1GB MicroSD at Amazon.com is $12. For $12, you get a perfectly stable device. OR, you can keep shuffling items off the card, limit your usage of the device and/or keep trying to make your precious SanDisk card work... For me, $12 was a small price to pay for stability! I paid $400USD for the phone; plus hundreds more for cases, extended batteries, software, etc.. I figure that if someone can afford a $400+ phone, you can afford to swap the SD Card for one that's more stable.

The old Cingular rom SUCKS, and the radio drained my battery WAY too fast. The 2.06 rom with the 1.34 radio are awesome. I almost never have any freezing, battery life is good, etc..

Amazon.com seems to have a mix of the japan and taiwan cards--so... You may want to buy direct from Kingston, OR, just buy from Amazon and call Kingston up if you get the wrong one. It says where it's made on the back of the packaging where the bar code is. You don't even need to open the package to tell which one it is.

eagle 1

15th March 2007, 01:11 AM

BTW: Thse tweaks are already part of the XDA-live ROM. No need to change them there... (v0.1 ff)

Which XDA Live version includes these tweaks? If it is version .10, then wy was it changed in version .20? I am running version .20 of XDA Live and upon installation or hard reset the parameters show as 33174 (decimal) or 8196 (hexidecimal). I had to manually change the reg setting to 8196. I believe the suggested setting is 8196 decimal. So which version of XDA shows 8196 decimal? or is it in one of the fix files? Anyone testing version .30 and can tell us what the settings are in version .30?

JasenR

15th March 2007, 03:12 AM

So the bottom line is that it is a rom issue, (not surprising, that's why they are listed as test roms and not stable roms) not a Taiwan SD card issue. I'm glad you found a solution that works for you. I have Japan SD in my other PDA, next time I feel like playing I'll flash up and give your method a try, but right now I'm happy with SA 135 which gives me 2 days battery life and never needs a reset. :)

progmode

16th March 2007, 06:01 AM

I ordered a pair of Kingston 1gb cards from Newegg and got lucky, both made in Japan.

Anyway, I just want to say, with the change of SD card and the reg edit, several issues have been fixed for me:

Media player can now update library without locking up
IM+ no longer causes phone to hang when run from the SD card
No more disappearing SD card in general

I've been running solid for about 24 hours now and haven't had any issues. This is fantastic! Thanks for this great find Legolas!

LegolasTheElf

16th March 2007, 07:42 AM

progmode

16th March 2007, 01:30 PM

I got Kingston to replace the Taiwan chip I got from Amazon for a Japan chip. Results: Taiwan chip failed within a few hours. Japan chip is 100% perfect.

For those of you who don't think it's a big deal, or that it's a ROM issue, remember, these chips can be bought for around $12US! Personally, I'd rather spend a few bucks on a chip that is known good on ALL rom's, rather than wait for someone to "fix it" (not unlike what I'm doing in this thread :rolleyes: ) and not being able to use your SD card to store all email, etc..

I'd like to figure out why some people are having NO issues with their Taiwan Cards; there must be a common denominator. My first guess is that the 8525 (and others?) uses a different chipset than other hermes when it comes to interfacing with the SD Card.

Pof... Do you know if there are any physical differences between older and newer devices? or devices in US vs. Europe vs. Asia?

I got mine from Newegg.com for $9.99, and the day before they were going for $7.99 (that's what I get for procrastinating).

I have an 8525 and was having this issue. Now, to be honest, it never was an issue before I upgraded to a WM6 ROM. Here's more info then you probably need just in case you start really digging into it:

Cingular 8525 (HERM100)
Kingston 1gb MicroSD card (Made in Japan)
ROM Version: 3.22.110.1 (WMXL v0.20)
Radio Version: 1.35.00.11

moisha

16th March 2007, 02:16 PM

Had multiple daily issues with the mSD card on AKU3.3 with Hermes Radio 1.34.
As a matter of fact that combination was the most unstable out of 5 I had for the past 4 month. Previously my 8525 was deaaad slow ... but fairly stable.

With WMXL .20 or LVSW versions I had no single issue for the past 2-3 weeks.
No wake up issues, no mSD card disappearing.

After I upgraded radio to 1.35 ( Trinity ), I started having serious BT disconnects .. big time. But still no wake up, no card problems.

This morning I put radio 1.38.00.10 and 4 hours down the line, my HTC failes to wake up twice and and card disappeared already once.
But the BT works like a charm.

aquanaut88

16th March 2007, 02:18 PM

Seems you guys with the 8525's have more issues than with the other devices. My made in Taiwan Sandisk 1Gb card has worked flawlessly in my made in Taiwan Hermes for more than 7-months, never a problem. I've also used WM6 plain vanilla, v20, and both LVSW OS Only (WPBear!) and now Classic (3/12). No problems with pocketplayer and all my music to my HBHDS970's, no problems reading GPS maps and running GPS software from the card and no problems saving photos to the microSD card.

I did 'manually' apply the StorageManager tweak setting both values to 8192 (in decimal). Not sure how someone came up with the number 8196... that just can't be right... 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192...

Cheers

Kikouyou

17th March 2007, 12:38 AM

Sleut

Do you get a sense that the fixes cooked into the new ROM out there work to fix this issue or are we stocked with waiting another level of fixes?

Thanks

LegolasTheElf

17th March 2007, 01:18 AM

Sleut

Do you get a sense that the fixes cooked into the new ROM out there work to fix this issue or are we stocked with waiting another level of fixes?

Thanks

This wasn't sleuth's find. It was mine. Secondly, did you READ THE THREAD about how LOTS OF PEOPLE say this works? This **IS** the fix, what other fix are you waiting for? For the good lord to come and change your Phone's registry himself?

Kikouyou

17th March 2007, 03:53 AM

Dear Legolastheelf

I did not wait for the lord to change the registeries without success despite many trials.
Sleut said we should probably cook a ROM with these parameters to get them accepted by the system as it seems that by a kind of miracle the setup we put in the registery are not effective.
So my question to be more specific was aimed at the new Black ROM that has these fixes cooked in the OS.nb
My question was then, is this working once cooked as raw it does not do much good!

LegolasTheElf

17th March 2007, 04:06 AM

My question was then, is this working once cooked as raw it does not do much good!

Did you replace your card with a Japan made MicroSD Card? So far everyone who's done that has experienced the miracle of no more lost SD Cards.

Kikouyou

17th March 2007, 04:17 AM

Not yet replaced with a Japan card as I did not fount some on the web
I am thinking of going straight to 4GB if I replace it...

your thoughts?

LegolasTheElf

17th March 2007, 04:29 AM

I don't know of a 4GB that works.. The 1GB and 2GB *Kingston* ram is made in Japan -- you can request the Japan version from Kingston directly. That *will* work.

Kikouyou

17th March 2007, 04:32 AM

I guess I have to do a phone order then as their web do not provide the manufacturing location of the cards

Kikouyou

17th March 2007, 08:32 AM

For those who have the Kingston 2GB Japan
Could you share the part number ?
That will make it easier to locate!

Thanks

stewcp

18th March 2007, 05:19 PM

So, Jap card here I come... has anyone noticed whether TomTom works better with these cards? TomTom currently freezes alot and I'm not sure its a card issue or a software?????

Kikouyou

19th March 2007, 01:33 AM

Tried today to FAT32 my Sandisk Taiwan 2GB card and came back to legolasthe elf initial settings. Card was not lost up to now since this morning...
Tried many on-off cycles...

Kikouyou

21st March 2007, 01:42 AM

I found an interesting behavior as I started to loose the card again.

If I go in the registries after a soft reset up to re-validating the 2 keys that legolastheelf has found, I do not loose the card anymore

So if a small program could be in the startup folder to rewrite these registries after each reset, the issue would seem to be solved

I do not know how to write such a program, but if someone want to try that, it may solve the problem for all the cards our there!

lokmeup

21st March 2007, 02:59 AM

I don't know of a 4GB that works.. The 1GB and 2GB *Kingston* ram is made in Japan -- you can request the Japan version from Kingston directly. That *will* work.

I just got off the phone with Kingston, trying to order the Japanese version of the microSD card.... and they said I had to buy one first, then when it does not work they can trade it in for a Japanese manufactured one... WTF?!!!

Any ideas.. Phone Numbers?

Thanks
Ron

LegolasTheElf

21st March 2007, 03:14 AM

I just got off the phone with Kingston, trying to order the Japanese version of the microSD card.... and they said I had to buy one first, then when it does not work they can trade it in for a Japanese manufactured one... WTF?!!!

Any ideas.. Phone Numbers?

Thanks
Ron
That's BS.. I called them and they were more than happy to get me the Japan one. Feel free to point them to this thread.. Considering we're promoting their damn ram, and they're getting free advertising, the least they could do is sell you the damn Japan chip!

Incidently, just order from Amazon (cheaper anyways). And call them as soon as you get the ram and swap it if you are unlucky and get the Taiwan one. Amazon is cheaper than ordering direct from Kingston--and the best part is that Kingston WILL PAY SHIPPING BOTH WAYS! So, you don't lose out at all...

lokmeup

21st March 2007, 03:24 AM

Thanks for the quick reply.

While on the phone with the Kingston people, they said that they only tested the 1gb on the Hermes and the 2gb is not officially supported...??

So are you running a 2g or 1g card?

Thanks
Ron

LegolasTheElf

21st March 2007, 04:32 AM

1GB Kingston made in Japan.

Kikouyou

21st March 2007, 08:53 PM

So here is the fix for all cards
Put the following reg file in windows startup and it will run after each reset
(unzip it first indeed)
You card will not disappear then.

LegolasTheElf

21st March 2007, 09:41 PM

So here is the fix for all cards
Put the following reg file in windows startup and it will run after each reset
(unzip it first indeed)
You card will not disappear then.
This has no information in it. There are no registry commands. Please check your file and re-post.

SPSP

21st March 2007, 10:24 PM

To LegolasTheElf: Is this problematic card SanDisk Secure Digital micro 2GB or SanDisk Secure Digital micro 2GB UltraII?

Those cards, with UltraII and without make big different.

Could you answer to my? I would like to buy UltraII one.

Thanks

Kikouyou

22nd March 2007, 07:35 AM

Sandisk Ultra 2 is problematic with the Hermes. I got severe memory corruptions with it. The regular Sandisk 2Gb works better.

To Legolastheelf. The file uploaded is a zipped reg file with Resco Registry Editor. Don't know if Resco is needed to read it
It is a simple export of the hklm system storageManager key once you modif has been applied.

Ninja1

22nd March 2007, 08:00 AM

So here is the fix for all cards
Put the following reg file in windows startup and it will run after each reset
(unzip it first indeed)
You card will not disappear then.
Eric,

The reg file has no data other than the Reg Editor header.

Ninja1

ps. I used Resco to check it.

pbelcl

22nd March 2007, 03:11 PM

checked the regfile also, the file has no content!!

Kikouyou

22nd March 2007, 06:43 PM

The empty reg file seem to be comming from a resco bug
Strangely enough, it seem to force a re-read of the registry and limit the issue
I am trying another reg editor and just exporting the PNPWaitIODelay key to see if sufficient

You can build it for yourself

Export the 2 values that legolastheelf found for us and put the created reg in windows startup

Let me know if this works for you

CJBS

22nd March 2007, 08:01 PM

I've been having many problems with this too, however after doing many before/after compares with the registry editor (TaskManager 2.6 - export all), I've noticed that the drivers under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Active] frequently pop up as having changed - for example, when exported, the values that have most recently been changed under a key are always at the top. So in one of my recent exports, here are the first two subkeys under the aforementioned key:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Active\228]
"Hnd"=dword:0067B730
"Name"="DSK2:"
"Key"="\\Drivers\\SDCARD\\ClientDrivers\\Class\\SDMemory_ Class"
"ClientInfo"=dword:0068DA18

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Active\66]
"Hnd"=dword:008AE610
"Name"="BTL1:"
"Key"="Software\\Microsoft\\Bluetooth\\BTHLINK"

If interested, browse to the [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Active] key, and check out the last two values (numerically). They always seem to be related to the SD card, and Bluetooth (for me)...

I experienced this first hand during a session using the ozBT program, whereby after enabling bluetooth, and running ozBT, my storage card disappeared. I exported the registry. Then, I stopped the ozBT program, and disabled bluetooth. I then ejected and reinserted my SD card, and hey-presto, it appeared again. I use a 2GB Kingmax card formatted as FAT32.

Food for thought for anyone who has found that the solution involving extending timeout value doesn't solve the problem.

bydandie

23rd March 2007, 01:08 PM

Well I ordered a Kingston Card from Memorybits.co.uk, and after no communication (And them showing it as being in stock!) they delivered an Intergal MicroSD card, but one that is made in Japan. I've transferred my data over and will report back on my findings.

tsc

23rd March 2007, 01:48 PM

Im running last LVSW wm6 now. My Taiwan Sandisk fat16 2Gb has no issues in 3 day. I did not any SD registry tweaks.
But in any WM5 AKU3.x and previous LVSW WM6 my card has frequently disappears in any available combinations of registry tweaks.
Also I didnt see any problems with my card in WMXL 0.20 by Kyphur.

gurubumsmack

23rd March 2007, 02:09 PM

Flashed my Vario II with the HTC 2.11 ROM since it came out and I've not encountered any problems with my memory card.

Card is a 2GB SanDisk Ultra II I purchased from MobyMemory.

Used TomTom to drive down to visit my sister (160 mile round trip) and it was fine.

lpsi2000

29th March 2007, 09:30 PM

I am not sure if anyone else noticed this, but if you do not unlock / unhide the Extend_ROM, the SD Card disappearing DOES NOT happen. Basically I have been running the various version WM6 for the pass week or two and I had no issue with the SD card until I unlock it.

JasenR

29th March 2007, 11:26 PM

You are correct.

LegolasTheElf

30th March 2007, 12:39 AM

Tha's not true. I had the same issue with my father's phone which did NOT have the ExtRom visible/unlocked.

So, there! :p

robt2379

30th March 2007, 12:47 AM

Hi All

I had no problems with my card (Sandisk 1gb) under WM5. When I upgraded to the early WM6 roms, the card could not be accessed after a few minutes from a reboot.
Now Im running the latest (and greatest) LVSW rom 25/03/07 the card hasnt once given me a problem and programs run reliably from it.
My conclusion? It was a problem in the beta roms XDA live and the like. LVSW is no based on a later build and the problem has been solved.

My two pennerth!

Rob

JasenR

30th March 2007, 02:59 AM

Rob,

I agree, I had the problem on all of my devices while using the early WM6 roms and Ext Storage visible. If I closed ext rom the problem would go away. Now with the new improved WM6 Roms the problem has disappeared reguardless if ext storage visible or not. I could duplicate the problem (or make it go away) without concern as to manufacturer or country of assembly.:eek:

lpsi2000

30th March 2007, 03:17 AM

Olipro

30th March 2007, 07:10 AM

I have not check the new LVSW with EXt_ROM unlock yet, but I can confirm the rest of your statement.

ExtROM shouldn't affect the SD_card... and by the way, the IPL has nothing to do with being SuperCID.

chymmylt

30th March 2007, 08:45 AM

LuckeeLou

30th March 2007, 04:42 PM

When I was using xda live 0.2, I did not unlock the ext_rom and the storage card was still disappearing.

I now have the latest LVSW rom (I have not unlocked the ext_rom) and the storage card has not disappeared on me. It's been three days.

JasenR

2nd April 2007, 12:17 PM

I have not check the new LVSW with EXt_ROM unlock yet, but I can confirm the rest of your statement.

Well I realize that a lot of folks say the two can't be related, however, I loaded the latest LVSW right after it came out and it was flawless for several days (zero problems or resets) until last night when I mounted the ext rom. It then started the "not waking up thing" and sd card disappears trick. Reset several times and when I turned it off it wouldn't come back on without another soft reset. Did that about 6 times and I then unmounted the ext rom and it is back to flawless operation. The programs I put in ext rom still run fine even with it unmounted so this isn't really an issue for me, just sharing information with the community. This is the same issue I experienced with other WM6 roms.

webpain

5th April 2007, 07:05 PM

I am really annoyed :-D

I have a Sandisk 2gb (made in Taiwan - sticker) and it was working like a charm with every single ROM. I have LVSW ROM since the last version came out and it worked perfectly. Now when I started loading lots of apps/music/movies on it it still was operating fine. Then, I decided to install SPB Shell (demo) to try it out, and for some reason the sd started dissapearing. I uninstalled the app and it continued to do so. I tried every single value in the reg (stated in this thread) but no luck. Anyway, for some reason I don't think it has to do with SPB.

Now to the real problem:
I now can not access the sd for more than 5 minutes without it disappearing. It actually doesn't really dissapear, but all the contents within folders are invisible. Even when I soft-reset, I have to remove/replug the card in order for it to work properly and still after a sd card specific operation it sometimes dissapears. I decided to format my card, thus chucked it in to my sd card reader and tried to format. It failed. Now i can see the contents, cant write to it, and even when I delete a folder or file, it re-appears after a reset... I cant even format it! :-(

I tried to scan-disk it in windows and with pocket-mechanic, tried to format with win and sktools but nothing works. When "recovering bad sectors" in PMechanic, when it reaches cluster 81000+ it starts getting really slow (1 cluster every minute :-P)

Any ideas would be welcome, but i think my sd card is 0wned anyway....

sirtrini

5th April 2007, 07:20 PM

Are you sure it's a real card? This happened to me with a fake Sandisk card.

I am really annoyed :-D

I have a Sandisk 2gb (made in Taiwan - sticker) and it was working like a charm with every single ROM. I have LVSW ROM since the last version came out and it worked perfectly. Now when I started loading lots of apps/music/movies on it it still was operating fine. Then, I decided to install SPB Shell (demo) to try it out, and for some reason the sd started dissapearing. I uninstalled the app and it continued to do so. I tried every single value in the reg (stated in this thread) but no luck. Anyway, for some reason I don't think it has to do with SPB.

Now to the real problem:
I now can not access the sd for more than 5 minutes without it disappearing. It actually doesn't really dissapear, but all the contents within folders are invisible. Even when I soft-reset, I have to remove/replug the card in order for it to work properly and still after a sd card specific operation it sometimes dissapears. I decided to format my card, thus chucked it in to my sd card reader and tried to format. It failed. Now i can see the contents, cant write to it, and even when I delete a folder or file, it re-appears after a reset... I cant even format it! :-(

I tried to scan-disk it in windows and with pocket-mechanic, tried to format with win and sktools but nothing works. When "recovering bad sectors" in PMechanic, when it reaches cluster 81000+ it starts getting really slow (1 cluster every minute :-P)

Any ideas would be welcome, but i think my sd card is 0wned anyway....

simon1219

6th April 2007, 05:58 AM

I have a Kingston 512MB card. I have no problem detecting the card, but when taking pictures using the 1M and 2M resolution, the camera will hang (no problem for lower resolution). After which the phone will become very slow and not able to close any problem (although can open new problem). After soft reset, the camera cannot be activate. To solve the camera problem is to power off, wait for a short while and power on. By the way I using the original WM5 rom.

OK I change the registry value from 4096 to 8196 as the recommended. The above problem is gone. I now able to take photograph at 2M resolution with no hang.

For those who have problem with your camera you may like to try this hack.

Thanks

webpain

6th April 2007, 11:22 AM

Are you sure it's a real card? This happened to me with a fake Sandisk card.

no i'm not. i got it of ebay. with no proper packaging. will I be able to RMA it? how can i find out if its genuine or not?

what brand is suggested to be bought? (i live in the UK)

i found a 2gb corsair micro sd at ebuyer for 23GBP.

monx®

6th April 2007, 01:45 PM

stick your microSDcard on your screen. it wont disappear again.
i'm using taiwan card. no problem until now. my hermes also made in taiwan.

webpain

6th April 2007, 06:52 PM

stick your microSDcard on your screen. it wont disappear again.
i'm using taiwan card. no problem until now. my hermes also made in taiwan.

hahaha. very funny. i bet you have tried to stick it in many places. :)

Kikouyou

6th April 2007, 07:28 PM

I have had the pb from vanilla up to Black 1.2 with a 2gb Sandisk Taiwan card.
The reg tricks could only limit the issue but not eliminate it.
This card was working perfectly with Wm5 indeed.
It is formated Fat 32 on the PC.

But so long it seem to work fine with Black 2.0 which has a more recent CE build inside. Installed it yesterday so... need to be used a bit more to be 100% sure this build fixes it.

webpain

6th April 2007, 10:03 PM

well my problem now is that i cant do any file operations other than view on the card even if I have it on the PC card reader. Its probably wasted...

watchdog2003

8th April 2007, 01:33 PM

brucewilsonpa

8th April 2007, 07:22 PM

I'm looking forward to a fix for this. Started having problems with my SD card programs going missing then today nothing on he SD card could be seen, no matter what I did to the registry, or soft resets -- had to hard reset and restore to get it back -- even tried a different SD card.

Had the registry settings to 0 but moved them back to 8196 now -- not sure that will do any good, though.

BTW - I checked and don' have the ignore_my_documents file anywhere on my storage card.

monx®

9th April 2007, 05:40 AM

BTW - I checked and don' have the ignore_my_documents file anywhere on my storage card.

i think it is for previous OS (WM2003SE <) only.

dle1232003

9th April 2007, 05:35 PM

cwhit

9th April 2007, 10:00 PM

Well I realize that a lot of folks say the two can't be related, however, I loaded the latest LVSW right after it came out and it was flawless for several days (zero problems or resets) until last night when I mounted the ext rom. It then started the "not waking up thing" and sd card disappears trick. Reset several times and when I turned it off it wouldn't come back on without another soft reset. Did that about 6 times and I then unmounted the ext rom and it is back to flawless operation. The programs I put in ext rom still run fine even with it unmounted so this isn't really an issue for me, just sharing information with the community. This is the same issue I experienced with other WM6 roms.

I am having this same issue. I loaded the latest LVSW. What does it mean to "mount the ext rom"? I loaded the new rom, and began loading my apps which I had on WM5. Soon after, it wouldn't wake up. It is completely random and may do it 2-4 times per day. I also have the disappearing SD card. Any suggestions for me?

JasenR

9th April 2007, 11:38 PM

I am having this same issue. I loaded the latest LVSW. What does it mean to "mount the ext rom"? I loaded the new rom, and began loading my apps which I had on WM5. Soon after, it wouldn't wake up. It is completely random and may do it 2-4 times per day. I also have the disappearing SD card. Any suggestions for me?

If you don't know how to mount ext rom then you haven't done so and therefore it did not cause your problems. Try some of the other solutions in this thread to correct the disappearing SD card and there are several threads in the WM6 area dealing with the "doesn't wake up" problem. Most are caused by 3rd party programs which are not yet WM6 certified. When you flash a new rom it is best to try it out "clean" for a while and then load your programs over a period of time (days for me) that allows you to see "in real use" if a program is working with the new rom. That way, when a problem appears you have a good idea that it is due to a conflict with the last program installed.

rdefalco

10th April 2007, 10:20 AM

Same issue, my config is

Italian Vodafone v1605
Official AKU 3.3 Vodafone ROM
Sandisk 2GB made in Taiwan
EXT_ROM mounted (still I don't know why I did it :) )
Used and then uninstalled SPB Mobile Shell (may have something to do with the problem?)

Before the registry tweak I noticed that SD disappeared

After the registry tweak when I try to start an application on the SD sometimes the phone hangs and I have to soft reset it :mad:

Bram87

11th April 2007, 04:19 PM

This reg-edit-tweak doesn't fix the problem for the disappearing of the (micro)sd in WMP and I just cant find the sullution..!:( and..

I HATE IT TO DELETE THE "MSMETADATA" FILE EVERYTIME, ITS F*** ANNOYING!!!!

:confused: :(

firebird2k

13th April 2007, 02:53 PM

I'll put my 2 cents in :

I did not have a single problem using the original 1.34 Rom and Sandisk 2GB MicroSD card from Taiwan. I had flashed to 2.06 and started experiencing the issue so I went back to 1.34 and still no problems on the 1.34 Rom.

I noticed the new 2.15 Rom.. so I flashed to it, I also experienced the same issues with the same Sandisk 2Gb MicroSD card.

I switched to a PNY 1GB MicroSD card from Japan. So far, three days and not a single issue(KNOCK ON WOOD). I didn't even have to do a Registry Tweak :)

Bunnygum

14th April 2007, 03:37 AM

I had the disappearing SD card problem really bad when using the LSVW ROM. I upgraded to Black 2.0 and since, the SD card problem has been a problem.

rdefalco

14th April 2007, 07:01 PM

I'll try to Hard Reset my Italian Vodafone v1605 with AKU 3.3 to see if a clean install solves this problem.

I will not install iLauncher, mountExtRom, SPB Mobile Shell, so I'll see if this issue depends on compatibility problems.

Tomorrow I'll know if that works ;)

rdefalco

14th April 2007, 10:04 PM

johnburn

15th April 2007, 04:06 PM

after only 5 minutes with clean devices I saw again the SD disappearing :( so it's definitely a firmware/compatibility issue, since I didn't mount ExtROM, I didn't install SPBanything, didn't install anything else :(

I would return your device for replacement under hardware warranty. Apparently HTC used two manufacturers to build their motherboards for them. Originally they used Hitachi, and more recently they moved to Topoly. The Hitachi boards may have a hardware "glitch" with the circuitry for the microSD Card. (This is thought to be the cause of the MSMETADATA folder problem which causes Windows Media Player to "lose" the Storage Card, since this problem cannot be recreated with the Topoly-manufactured motherboards.)

I can't say how I know this, but it is worth persuing...

John

rdefalco

15th April 2007, 05:56 PM

I would return your device for replacement under hardware warranty

I would agree with you, but this microSD problem appeared just after the firmware upgrade ;) so it can't simply be a matter of hardware.

Even in Trinity XDA forum I found a similar issue with upgrades to AKU 3.3, so it must be some sort of changed parameters that cause problem with some microSD cards.

One solution for me may be turning back to old firmware, but unluckily there are no official italian Vodafone firmwares before this one, so I'll have to wait and/or contact Vodafone tech support to see if they can provide me the old version of the firmware.

Another solution could be to buy another microSD of a different brand, since 2GB Sandisk seem to cause a lot of trouble with latest firmwares, but that would be really annoying :(

rdefalco

16th April 2007, 12:45 AM

At least I found that on my v1605 there is a partial solution to avoid phone lock and necessary soft-reset:

if I power up the PDA with NO microSD inserted and NO today plugins that rely on the microSD, I still get the disappearing SD issue, but I can always resume from standby

that was the most important thing, at least I can survive until a new ROM is released, without the fear of being unreachable if the PDA hangs because of this issue

of course I can insert the microSD after input of password/pin and I still can use the programs installed on microSD ;)

Ender666666

16th April 2007, 01:40 AM

i had this problem with a sandisk card, it was a 1GB, i changed to a 2GB and i never had a disappearing problem again, although windows media player has stopped recongising the card, and when you update the libary, it finds the music on the card, and then crashes. Have given up tryin to find the fault and now use nero mobile.

I was having the same problem. If you delete the "MSMETADATA" folder and all it's contents from the storage card, it may fix the problem. It did for me.

For what it's worth, my "Made in Taiwan" Corsair 2GB card hasn't yet disappeared, I have only just now run into it not being readable to WMP only.

Thanks to all the posters for documenting this. It took a lot of reading of the thread (ya hear that fellow n00bs?) but reading and paying attention actually works.

rdefalco

17th April 2007, 10:40 AM

Definitely I can say that powering on the PDA WITHOUT SD card inserted HELPS. It's two days without hangs.

Yes, sometimes the SD disappear, but at least I don't have to soft-reset, just re-insert the card and all works fine.

P.S.: with my Italian v1605 and Sandisk 2GB made in Taiwan registry changes were completely unsuccesful

rdefalco

20th April 2007, 09:23 PM

Up for this thread, hoping that someone can find a solution ;)

Mythozz

21st April 2007, 09:52 AM

Up for this thread, hoping that someone can find a solution ;)

My God so many weeks/ months with this problem... isn't there any solution? :(

rdefalco

21st April 2007, 11:36 AM

My God so many weeks/ months with this problem... isn't there any solution? :(

if is there, I don't know it :(

I tried registry hacks, but they are completely unuseless.

The only thing that makes the problem less annoying is powering up the phone without microsd inserted, so at least it doesn't hang-up when in stand-by. Unluckily the microsd still continues to disappear.

Maybe only another upgrade can fix that :( only have to wait, I don't want to flash unsupported ROMs for warranty reasons.

LegolasTheElf

21st April 2007, 06:18 PM

My God so many weeks/ months with this problem... isn't there any solution? :(
Yeah, buy a JAPAN made KINGSTON MicroSD card. That fixes the problem for good.

rdefalco

21st April 2007, 07:45 PM

Yeah, buy a JAPAN made KINGSTON MicroSD card. That fixes the problem for good.

However, we can say that this is a workaround, and doesn't fix it for real. I'm just disappointed a little for throwing my Taiwanese 2GB Sandisk card into the trash.

Let's just wait and hope that with firmware upgrades (maybe WM6?) this issue will be really fixed, since with older firmware there were no problems at all.

LegolasTheElf

22nd April 2007, 02:32 AM

However, we can say that this is a workaround, and doesn't fix it for real. I'm just disappointed a little for throwing my Taiwanese 2GB Sandisk card into the trash.

Let's just wait and hope that with firmware upgrades (maybe WM6?) this issue will be really fixed, since with older firmware there were no problems at all.
So, because you don't like the idea that Taiwan Sandisk cards are incompatible with your phone, you think that WM6 should 'fix it'? You know, I own a Honda.. I'm really disappointed that I can't use Ford parts in my car. They're cheaper than Honda parts. Maybe I'll wait for the 2008 Honda's so that it will be 'fixed' to allow Ford parts.

I'm trying REALLY hard to not be so mean to you--but, the reality is that WM6 **IS** here. We've had reports that WM6 does NOT fix it (and, gee, wonder why that is, since KINGSTON themselves said there is a physical difference between the controllers). Just because you're a fuckwit and want to seem like you're increasing the knowledge on here by saying that it is a 'workaround', doesn't mean it is. If you don't like that your precious SanDisk doesn't work, then get a Treo and use it in that. They like SanDisks... Otherwise, quit wasting hours and hours of your life figuring out how to save the $11 the Kingston card costs from Amazon.com..

rdefalco

22nd April 2007, 10:36 AM

So, because you don't like the idea that Taiwan Sandisk cards are incompatible with your phone, you think that WM6 should 'fix it'? You know, I own a Honda.. I'm really disappointed that I can't use Ford parts in my car. They're cheaper than Honda parts. Maybe I'll wait for the 2008 Honda's so that it will be 'fixed' to allow Ford parts.

I'm trying REALLY hard to not be so mean to you--but, the reality is that WM6 **IS** here. We've had reports that WM6 does NOT fix it (and, gee, wonder why that is, since KINGSTON themselves said there is a physical difference between the controllers). Just because you're a fuckwit and want to seem like you're increasing the knowledge on here by saying that it is a 'workaround', doesn't mean it is. If you don't like that your precious SanDisk doesn't work, then get a Treo and use it in that. They like SanDisks... Otherwise, quit wasting hours and hours of your life figuring out how to save the $11 the Kingston card costs from Amazon.com..

Well, I'm surprised for this answer, really. The point is (I write upper in case you didn't read my previous posts):

WITH THE PREVIOUS FIRMWARE, MY PDA WORKED FOR 6 MONTHS WITHOUT ANY ISSUE, WITH THE SAME IDENTICAL "PRECIOUS" TAIWANESE 2GB SANDISK MICROSD

So, am I allowed to think that, yes, this COULD be a firmware-related issue?

And stay sure, I never acted as a knowledge bringer in any forum I use to write in, but I only think that: firmware broke it, firmware may fix.

Now, if you say that, 100% sure, confirmed by HTC CEO or chief-engineer, sandisk cards will never work with Hermes anymore, you can ask a moderator to close this thread since it's useless. But if there are chances, buying another brand still appears to me as a workaround.

P.S.: I'm still searching for your "fuckwit" definition, I fear that I'll be disappointed for what that means

chymmylt

22nd April 2007, 07:37 PM

I have had a Taiwan sandisk card that works fine with my WM5 and WM6 rom - it does not cause the freeze of death for me. I get the freeze of death due to leaving the WIFI on and having the phone going into auto-standbye (if I push the power button breifly to put it into standbye, I do not have this issue.) I have this issue whether I have the card in the phone or not and if I have the wifi turned off it never happens so I can nearly safely say that at least my taiwan sandisk card is not connected to my issue. Now if only i could get a Kingston Wifi Module :D

chymmylt

22nd April 2007, 07:40 PM

P.S.: I'm still searching for your "fuckwit" definition, I fear that I'll be disappointed for what that means

I've always inturpreted it as short for "Fucking Nit-wit" but that's just me! :)

rsolomon

22nd April 2007, 10:39 PM

Otherwise, quit wasting hours and hours of your life figuring out how to save the $11 the Kingston card costs from Amazon.com..

Please link or PM me the link to a Kingston 2GB MicroSD for $11 on Amazon.

Thanks,
Richard

chymmylt

22nd April 2007, 10:53 PM

Please link or PM me the link to a Kingston 2GB MicroSD for $11 on Amazon.

Thanks,
Richard

I think he was saying that the Kingston was $11 more then the scandisk - not that you could buy the kingston for $11

LegolasTheElf

22nd April 2007, 11:28 PM

I think he was saying that the Kingston was $11 more then the scandisk - not that you could buy the kingston for $11
No, a 1GB Kingston is $11.95 or something like that. The 2GB hasn't been tested, but, feel free to buy it and let us know. However, make sure it is JAPAN made, or call Kingston and get them to replace it.

chymmylt

23rd April 2007, 01:10 AM

rsolomon

23rd April 2007, 04:35 AM

No, a 1GB Kingston is $11.95 or something like that. The 2GB hasn't been tested, but, feel free to buy it and let us know. However, make sure it is JAPAN made, or call Kingston and get them to replace it.

Just to be fair then, the guy whose sh!t you were jumping was talking about a 2GB SanDisk, so telling him to stop whining about $11 wasn't exactly legitimate....

For $11 I'd have grabbed a 2GB, so I was honestly curious. Given that I've got more than 1GB of stuff on my MicroSD, they could be PAYING me $11 for the 1GB and I'd still not consider that an option :(

Give it a few more months I imagine and the 2GB will be <$20 too :D

Richard

seamanzhou

23rd April 2007, 05:01 AM

I hate this bug！
Disappearing SD Cards have happened once at least every day! :confused:
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ROM 2.11.255.1
Radio 1.40.30.00
AKU 3.3.1

skyhook8

29th April 2007, 01:40 AM

I was on Black 1.2 and had a few problems with my 2GB but then upgraded to Black 2.5 Cingular and my reboots immediately began intermittently hanging at the Cingular 3G logo. Finally figured out that it would boot every time if I pulled the microSD. Had the StorageCard2 and fixed that and moved everything to the device but still got the reboot hangs. Changing the registry settings seemed to help. Flashed today with LVSW0423 and haven't had a single hang. I've installed all apps to the device until I can get a Japan microSD.

jslifer

3rd May 2007, 04:17 PM

I had to reset at least once a day with my Cingular 8525 with a 1GB Sandisk running the original ROM and also XDA Live 0.1.

I recently upgraded the ROM to Black 2.5, the radio to 1.41.00.10, and switched to a 2GB Sandisk and I have not had a single hang in well over a week.

jnmarshall

11th May 2007, 06:09 PM

Yeah, buy a JAPAN made KINGSTON MicroSD card. That fixes the problem for good.

Wow, this thread has become almost useless... I have both SD and Kingston cards and have the problem with both. So far the best solution I've found, but still fails over time is posted at MS
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa912238.aspx

I leave the PNPUnloadDelay to the default (4096) and to be safe, I set the PNPWaitIODelay to 3x that (12288)

abubasim

11th May 2007, 07:26 PM

. . .
I leave the PNPUnloadDelay to the default (4096) and to be safe, I set the PNPWaitIODelay to 3x that (12288)

I tried that also but discovered a small problem: restart your phone and check what PNPWaitIODelay is set to and you'll see what I mean.

jnmarshall

11th May 2007, 08:27 PM

I tried that also but discovered a small problem: restart your phone and check what PNPWaitIODelay is set to and you'll see what I mean.
Are they reseting on your phone? Could it be ROM version or Provider dependant?

rsolomon

11th May 2007, 08:33 PM

I have both SD and Kingston cards and have the problem with both.

Is either marked "Japan"? Kingston sells (at least) two variants, and many have found the issue in the Taiwan-marked units. You would be the first report of a problem with the Japan-marked unit - if correct.

Richard

LegolasTheElf

12th May 2007, 01:34 AM

Is either marked "Japan"? Kingston sells (at least) two variants, and many have found the issue in the Taiwan-marked units. You would be the first report of a problem with the Japan-marked unit - if correct.

It *is* possible that the card is in fact defective. However, if it is a Japan labeled Kingston, and you are having issues with it, I'd contact Kingston for a replacement. If it is a Taiwan Kingston, get it replaced with the Japan version as well. Kingston pays for shipping both ways. So, there's really no excuse to be bitching about your non-working card when Kingston is only a phone call away; and they WILL fix it!

bjevers

12th May 2007, 02:33 AM

HTC just released a fix for the Artemis for SD card issues. Maybe they'll post a fix for the Hermes soon.

http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3831

jnmarshall

12th May 2007, 03:31 AM

Is either marked "Japan"? Kingston sells (at least) two variants, and many have found the issue in the Taiwan-marked units. You would be the first report of a problem with the Japan-marked unit - if correct.

Richard

The Kingston is Japan, the SD is Tiawan. All my cards work fine in my Dash and Samsung devices. None of my cards work well with the 8525. I usually have to reset every other day or so. My current registry settings lasts about a week.

abubasim

12th May 2007, 07:12 AM

Are they reseting on your phone? Could it be ROM version or Provider dependant?

PNPWaitIODelay always resets to the same value as PNPUnloadDelay. So I have set PNPUnLoadDelay to 10000 to have the PNPWaitIODelay "inherit" this value.

The ROM I'm using is the official HTC AKU3.3.1 WWE released by Leaf, South Africa.

rdefalco

12th May 2007, 10:18 AM

HTC just released a fix for the Artemis for SD card issues. Maybe they'll post a fix for the Hermes soon.

http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3831

finally a good news :D I'm holding strong not to send my v1605 to Vodafone support, maybe I can avoid this :D

Ender666666

14th May 2007, 04:46 PM

Yeah, buy a JAPAN made KINGSTON MicroSD card. That fixes the problem for good.

Can anyone confirm that Japan made 2GB Kingston cards exist? I called Kingston today to get them to swap mine and they claimed that they don't have any 2GB cards made in Japan, and that they don't support anything higher than 1GB on the TyTN

chenga

14th May 2007, 07:21 PM

Can anyone confirm that Japan made 2GB Kingston cards exist? I called Kingston today to get them to swap mine and they claimed that they don't have any 2GB cards made in Japan, and that they don't support anything higher than 1GB on the TyTN

You know, that's a good question. I've called in trying to exchange my 2GB card several times, but they tell me that they only have the Taiwan cards in stock and that they have no ETA for more stock of the 2GB Japan cards. I never did ask if Japan 2GB cards actually exist...

Ender666666

15th May 2007, 12:19 AM

You know, that's a good question. I've called in trying to exchange my 2GB card several times, but they tell me that they only have the Taiwan cards in stock and that they have no ETA for more stock of the 2GB Japan cards. I never did ask if Japan 2GB cards actually exist...

I do know that I was having my Japanese made, 1GB Kingston card disappear every couple days... Even with all the suggested tweaks enabled. Granted it was less frequent than I seem to recall with my Taiwanese 2GB Corsair chip, but that isn't scientifically accurate. I'm testing a Taiwanese 2GB Kingston chip at the moment. Will post results if anything interesting happens.

chenga

15th May 2007, 08:02 AM

I do know that I was having my Japanese made, 1GB Kingston card disappear every couple days... Even with all the suggested tweaks enabled. Granted it was less frequent than I seem to recall with my Taiwanese 2GB Corsair chip, but that isn't scientifically accurate. I'm testing a Taiwanese 2GB Kingston chip at the moment. Will post results if anything interesting happens.

I find that my 2GB Kingston (Taiwan) card is more stable than my 2GB SanDisk (Taiwan) card. I actually haven't had a disappearance yet [2 weeks](knock on wood).

jnmarshall

16th May 2007, 11:24 PM

Can anyone confirm that Japan made 2GB Kingston cards exist? I called Kingston today to get them to swap mine and they claimed that they don't have any 2GB cards made in Japan, and that they don't support anything higher than 1GB on the TyTN

I called them, twice, also about my issue. They DO have cards made in Japan, I have one, and suspect it may be defective now. The first person I spoke with pointed out that the 2GB cards are NOT supported in HTC devices. Walked me thru their website to that fact. And would not warrantee it unless it fails in a "supported" device.

The second person was willing to swap the card out, but can not guaranty where it was made, it's just what they have in inventory.

Looks like the days of 2GB are over for this thing.

barrr

18th May 2007, 08:29 AM

Look here:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307614

boz

18th May 2007, 05:29 PM

Better to look here at HTC site:-

http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=545&device=htctytn (http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=545&device=htctytn)

The fix is for the Tytn (Hermes) and Atermis, I have had no storage card problems so I have not tried it. I have attatched the cab file below.

Can people with storage card problems report back on whether it works or not please. :)

johnburn

18th May 2007, 10:09 PM

Can people with storage card problems report back on whether it works or not please. :)

I have had ongoing but occasional problems with my Kingston 1GB (Japan) card. I don't see any corruption, but I regularly do a Pocket Mechanic scan and it finds lost clusters, etc. Also occasionally lose my MSMETADATA file (even with WM6) -- probably related.

I have downloaded and installed the patch and will monitor for a week or so. Will post again with the good or bad news.

John

johnburn

19th May 2007, 04:51 PM

I have downloaded and installed the patch and will monitor for a week or so. Will post again with the good or bad news.

Well, I didn't have to wait long -- less than a full day in fact. Last night when I launched Newsbreak 2.0, an "Unexpected error" occurred (aren't all errors unexpected?) and all of my subscribed feeds were gone. Closed Newsbreak and launched Pocket Mechanic and did a "Scan" of my SD card. It found all kinds of corruption such as lost clusters and cross-linked files, much worse than I have ever seen before. I had to recreate all of my feeds and Newsbreak prefs from scratch. Luckily I still had an .opml backup from the last time I did a hard reset, so it didn't take too long.

I have removed the "fix" from my device and will wait for the next attempt from HTC. BTW, an HTC engineer told Leaf Wireless in South Africa that they (HTC) believed that this corruption was being caused by a hardware defect on the original motherboards used until mid-2006 or so. If this is the case, I can see that they would want to try to find a fix in software, as a hardware swapout is an extremely expensive undertaking. However, there is a good chance they won't be successful (at least, not for everyone).

John

boz

19th May 2007, 05:05 PM

Well, I didn't have to wait long -- less than a full day in fact. Last night when I launched Newsbreak 2.0, an "Unexpected error" occurred (aren't all errors unexpected?) and all of my subscribed feeds were gone. Closed Newsbreak and launched Pocket Mechanic and did a "Scan" of my SD card. It found all kinds of corruption such as lost clusters and cross-linked files, much worse than I have ever seen before. I had to recreate all of my feeds and Newsbreak prefs from scratch. Luckily I still had an .opml backup from the last time I did a hard reset, so it didn't take too long.

I have removed the "fix" from my device and will wait for the next attempt from HTC. BTW, an HTC engineer told Leaf Wireless in South Africa that they (HTC) believed that this corruption was being caused by a hardware defect on the original motherboards used until mid-2006 or so. If this is the case, I can see that they would want to try to find a fix in software, as a hardware swapout is an extremely expensive undertaking. However, there is a good chance they won't be successful (at least, not for everyone).

John

What a bummer! I was expecting more from the fix but that is HTC for you, but as you say it might work for others, we will have to wait and see. :)

DanD911Phx

19th May 2007, 08:11 PM

Wow, this thread has become almost useless... I have both SD and Kingston cards and have the problem with both. So far the best solution I've found, but still fails over time is posted at MS
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa912238.aspx

I leave the PNPUnloadDelay to the default (4096) and to be safe, I set the PNPWaitIODelay to 3x that (12288)

That KB Article is marked as not-applicable to Windows Mobile (only Windows Embedded CE) Storage Management.

I wonder if we're affecting anything at all when we change these values.

For the record, I have the problem with a Cingular 8525, running the WM5.1 upgrade ROM 2.15.502.3. It occurs with both the SanDisk 2GB microSD and also a Kensington 2GB (mfg in Taiwan) card. Too late I noticed the post about the 2GB Kensington not being supported on HTC, so I guess I'm on my own for support.

I've downloaded the HTC card driver update for the TyTyn and we'll see what it does with these.

Dan D.

rdefalco

21st May 2007, 12:15 PM

I'm giving this patch a try, too :) I'll report any result here. My phone is a Italian Vodafone V1605 which gave me problems since I made an official upgrade to AKU3.3.

l3enjamin

21st May 2007, 03:47 PM

Have anyone tried Toshiba's 2GB?
They claims that it is compatible with X01HT.
I think it is the same with all other Hermes model.

http://www.toshiba.co.jp/p-media/english/compati/microsd_list.htm

jnmarshall

22nd May 2007, 05:01 PM

After 4 days, it's still working. I'm using my old sandisk branded 2gb as I believe my kingston card may be bad:(

Hope I didn't just jynx myself.

Ender666666

23rd May 2007, 08:27 AM

I do know that I was having my Japanese made, 1GB Kingston card disappear every couple days... Even with all the suggested tweaks enabled. Granted it was less frequent than I seem to recall with my Taiwanese 2GB Corsair chip, but that isn't scientifically accurate. I'm testing a Taiwanese 2GB Kingston chip at the moment. Will post results if anything interesting happens.

After 9 days of using the 2GB Taiwanese Kingston card, I still haven't had an issue. I said I'd post if anything interesting came up, and I thought this might count. Please note, I have NOT installed that Artemis patch as it is NOT for the Hermes.

johnburn

23rd May 2007, 04:30 PM

Can people that are not having problems with SD cards post the first part of their device's serial number please? For example, mine is "HT630F..." and I do have some problems with occasional corruption on my 1GB Kingston (Japan) card. I am trying to confirm the rumour that this issue is hardware related and only a problem on Hitachi-manufactured Hermes motherboards.

Thanks,
John

rdefalco

24th May 2007, 07:42 AM

I'm giving this patch a try, too :) I'll report any result here. My phone is a Italian Vodafone V1605 which gave me problems since I made an official upgrade to AKU3.3.

Bad news, my problems did NOT go away with the Artemis SD update :(

barrr

24th May 2007, 02:14 PM

niether did mine.

jnmarshall

24th May 2007, 10:53 PM

boz

25th May 2007, 01:21 AM

Mine failed this morning when I woke up and checked it:( It lasted 6 days which is the longest time ever though. Close, but not quite. I'm really think it's a hardware issue with the chipsets on the motherboard. I don't think software/patches will help.

Well I think it is now safe to say that the HTC Artemis storage card fix does not work, and it is not recommended for use with the Hermes. :(

Use the reg edit instead!

jnmarshall

25th May 2007, 08:18 PM

Too bad that doesn't work at all. It lasts a day, maybe 2 max changing the reg settings.

Well I think it is now safe to say that the HTC Artemis storage card fix does not work, and it is not recommended for use with the Hermes. :(

Use the reg edit instead!

Ender666666

26th May 2007, 04:35 AM

diceman725

3rd June 2007, 01:22 AM

bjevers

3rd June 2007, 05:43 AM

Here's an interesting issue. I'm trying to apply the registry edits using Total Commander and even after waiting a couple of minutes then resetting, the registry values revert to the originals. Any ideas? I used Total Commander all the time with my Wizard with no issues.

I used Total Commander to change the values on mine and it worked. Try holding the power button and power off after changing and see if it writes the values.

diceman725

4th June 2007, 02:21 AM

not sure why, but worked like a champ. thanks!

DanD911Phx

4th June 2007, 02:50 AM

I used Total Commander to change the values on mine and it worked. Try holding the power button and power off after changing and see if it writes the values.

It doesn't work on my 8525 :mad:

The Artmeis patched drivers didn't work, and I can't get the values to stay different than 4096/4096.

On a soft reset or a power cycle, the values change back.

Frustrating. :(

shagratt

4th June 2007, 06:41 AM

The artemis patch changes this file: omap850_sdhc.dll

Can someone upload the file from an original WM5 TyTN ?? (but TyTN uses samsumg procesor not omap so perhaps it dosnt have that file or need to be pointed to another) because I used for almost 7 months WITHOUT ANY FAILURE!!! ... all the problems begun when I make the update to WM6. So its definitively nothing related to hardware and manufacturers of components... its a software problem introduced in the update roms.

eldali

27th June 2007, 10:07 AM

Well, I finally decided to send my JasJam for warranty repair. They replaced the mother board and since 2 weeks I have no microSD card problems.

Wael

tony.wheeler

27th June 2007, 02:50 PM

It doesn't work on my 8525 :mad:

The Artmeis patched drivers didn't work, and I can't get the values to stay different than 4096/4096.

On a soft reset or a power cycle, the values change back.

Frustrating. :(
Dan,

I did the reg hack and it 'appears' to have worked as I have now had 6 days without problem - I'll report back.

Did you know that it can take some minutes before any changes you make to the registry actually get committted to stay there? I have read that it you press and hold the power button to turn off the device (rather than soft-resetting) that this commits the change. Better perhaps to waiat a while if you are in no rush.

Give a go and see then if the changes stay. Hope this helps :)

Barneyabz

3rd July 2007, 10:57 PM

Well since I updated to AKU 3.3 this problem has occurred. Like others on the board I am using the 2GB Sandisk. Using AKU 2.3 had no problems at all for over 3 months, since upgrading to AKU 3.3 am getting this problem every day or two. Tried the reg fix - doesn't work for me. So am considering reverting back to AKU 2.3 - anyone know if this will be a problem?

Cheers

Barney

short/y

4th July 2007, 12:25 AM

At the risk of cross-posting, I had two 8525s, 1 Cingular branded and the other AT&T branded. In the 3 weeks I had them, I wasn't able to go more than about 12 hours on either of them without a soft reset (had a SanDisk 2GB card). Last Friday I picked up a 2GB Kensington card made in Japan. Plugged it in Saturday morning and went TWO FULL DAYS without a soft reset. I finally reset because I needed to uninstall/reinstall some software and haven't reset since.

Barneyabz

4th July 2007, 09:43 AM

Yes getting a KEnsignton made in Japan sems to solve this problem - problem is I live in UK and have no idea at all how I can get a Kenisngton card and insist that it is one made in Japan. Also mine is a company phone and the supplier we use for memory cards doesn't stock Kensignton -

Barney

neptel

13th July 2007, 09:09 PM

suggest take a look at other posts on this card - it seems to cause problems for many using all different phones.

Perhaps the card is the issue not the fix

Silverexp

26th July 2007, 08:23 AM

suggest take a look at other posts on this card - it seems to cause problems for many using all different phones.

Perhaps the card is the issue not the fix

Just my two cents, just finally had my SanDisk 2gb microSD RMA after several emails and had to send them a picture of the card, since I couldn't read the microscopic etching serial number. Card worked fine for 2 months, then failed after I needed to restore my PIM data after a flash.

Barneyabz

31st July 2007, 10:55 PM

Well I got a Kingston 2Gb card, made in Japan, and the problem has dissappeared. So as many others before me have said, this is the solution. Had it now for a week and its all working ok.

Cheers

Barney

tony.wheeler

1st August 2007, 01:24 AM

For what it's worth - since upgrading to WM6 (Black MAJIK then SATIN) I hacve not seen one single error or experienced one single problem worth my Micro SD card. Could of course be luck - but I doubt it. The same card was giving me no end of problems with corruption to files and then whole folders going missing.

The reg tweak suggested did also resolve the problems (for 5 weeks) but I then upgraded to WM6. Lots of others are reporting similar stability after move to WM6 - does anyone still have SD card problems after an OS upgrade?

Regards