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anubus12
19th February 2007, 11:23 PM
I've read and reread various posts about this. I just want to make sure I have the steps down before I go forward.

What I have now:

Cingular 8525
Rom: 1.34.502.1
Radio version : 1.16
SPL: 1.06

What I would like achieve:

Rom: 2.06.502.3
Radion version: 1.27
SPL: 1.04
Ext Rom: 2.06.502.3


1) Downgrade to SPL 1.04 by flashing the 8525 with file RUU_HER_Cingular_1.30.502.1_1.11.00.00_wwe_cws_shi p.exe. This is because it matches my CID CWS__001 and it has SPL 1.04. I guess I simply run it without any other preparations. Is this correct?

2) Super CID and simunlock using HTC_Hermes_SIM_Unlock_v2a.zip

3) I choose the ROM RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.06.502.3_6275_1.33.31.00 _108_Ship.exe

4) Use NBExtract to decompress the above ROM to get files OS.nbf and Extrom.nbf file

5) Flash SPL 1.01MFG using mtty.exe. Is this necessary? Can't I flash OS.nbf with SPL1.04?

6) Flash OS.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe

7) Flash extrom.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe

8) Flash radio from file RUU_Hermes_TMD-TMA_Radiopatch_1.27.00.00_107_GER.exe by simply running it. Is this correct?

Am I missing something in the process?

Lastly, Is this the best COMBINATION of ROM, radio, and ext ROM? And how does RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2[1].06.502.3_6275_1.33.31.00_108_Ship compared to 2.05?

Thanks for any input.


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mrvanx
19th February 2007, 11:41 PM
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1) Downgrade to SPL 1.04 by flashing the 8525 with file RUU_HER_Cingular_1.30.502.1_1.11.00.00_wwe_cws_shi p.exe. This is because it matches my CID CWS__001 and it has SPL 1.04. I guess I simply run it without any other preparations. Is this correct?
I guess there isnt really any need to do that, if you flash SPL 1.01MFG to it then theres no need to do this step.
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2) Super CID and simunlock using HTC_Hermes_SIM_Unlock_v2a.zip
I would use the unlocker v3 (i suspect you meant v3 anyway)

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3) I choose the ROM RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_2.06.502.3_6275_1.33.31.00 _108_Ship.exe
The ROM you choose is entirely up to you so yes this should be ok
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4) Use NBExtract to decompress the above ROM to get files OS.nbf and Extrom.nbf file
Yep goes without saying ;-)

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5) Flash SPL 1.01MFG using mtty.exe. Is this necessary? Can't I flash OS.nbf with SPL1.04?
IF you are doing this then it would be the FIRST step you do
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6) Flash OS.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe

7) Flash extrom.nbf file extracted using mtty.exe

Still....yes no problem.
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8) Flash radio from file RUU_Hermes_TMD-TMA_Radiopatch_1.27.00.00_107_GER.exe by simply running it. Is this correct?

This part is beyond what i did, my process was that i upgraded to radio ROM 1.27.00.00 using the signed .exe because i originally had SPL 1.09.

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Am I missing something in the process?
You seem to have it figured out, but dont go on what i say here, wait for it to be verified by more than just me :D

My process (having already got superCID and unlocked a while ago) was to upgrade to radio 1.27.00.00 before anything else, then to flash SPL 1.01MFG using mtty, then flash the OS.nb file from the ROM i chose, then to flash ExtROM.nb (again from the ROM i chose). By using radio 1.27 you will have radio loader 107 which is recommended still.

Once some other people have looked over what you posted then you should go ahead (if they all give the "all clear" :D)

You combination of rom and radio is a good idea (the ROM and ExtROM is entirely up to you but the radio is the highest that doesnt have loader 108?)

Olipro
19th February 2007, 11:54 PM
It's even easier than that;

get my Custom RUU kit and you can skip the reflash;

take the 3.3AKU and extract the RUU_Signed.

extract the RUU signed with NBHExtract or my GUI tool (make sure it's all in the same directory) then you can create a NEW RUU with SPL 1.04, whatever radio you like (if you want a new one) and the 3.3 OS AKU.

remember: if you do it this way, you can have whatever components you want; ExtROM, OS, mix and match anything.

however... if you don't think you can manage doing this, tell me what you want and I'll happily assemble it for you

wpbear
20th February 2007, 12:26 AM
1. SuperCid and Unlock with POF VERSION 3 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293665)

Website:
http://pof.eslack.org/hermes-unlocker/


Install Instructions:
Easy auto-install Instructions:

Unzip unlocker and run AUTO_Unlock_v3.bat

If you don't want to install automatically, or for some reason the process doesn't work for you, here are the manual instructions:

Transfer SSPL/SSPL-HERM.exe to your phone and run it
Tri-color screen will appear
Disable activesync (file -> connection settings -> uncheck "allow USB connections")
Connect your phone to your computer using the USB lead.
Run RUU/ROMUpgradeUt.exe
Follow the flashing process (Check the "I understand..." and "I completed..." boxes and update!)
Allow your phone to reboot.
Transfer HERM_Unlock_v3.exe program to your phone and run it
Click the Unlock Button, select unlock option. Select if you want SIM/CID unlock.
Click "Unlock!" and wait until process finishes.
When done, turn off your phone for 10 seconds and reboot after that.


2. Then Run this cooked ROM (Cooked w/Olipro software)
http://uploadingit.com/files/8194/RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip
Rom: 2.06.502.3
Radion version: 1.27
SPL: 1.04
Ext Rom: 2.06.502.3


I think radio 1.33 or 1.34 is better then 1.27. I do not see a difference between 1.33 or 1.34 though.


You pretty much had the process but this will be easier for you.

Olipro
20th February 2007, 12:55 AM
just to point out; SuperCID and Unlock (unless using a different SIM) is unnecessary and *could* potentially invalidate your warranty.

SuperCID is pretty much redundant nowadays with the new SSPL; the only real advantage to having your device SuperCID is if there isn't a ROM for your CID with old version stuff to revert to.

anubus12
20th February 2007, 02:33 AM
Thank you for all the replies! I appreciate it.

@mrvanx and wpbear

The reason stated using unlocker v2a was because, from what I understand, if I use v3 it would put a patched 1.08 Radio BL (which I thought we want to avoid). Which means that I won't be able to "downgrade" to a lower version radio. Am I wrong?

@mrvanx

You said that I didn't need to downgrade to 1.04 BL because I could use 1.01MFG. I thought that I couldn't do that with 1.06 or higher. I had to downgrade to 1.04 first.

@wpbear

I assume in order to use your custom cooked ROM, I have to SuperCID right?


@Olipro

Thanks for the offer of cooking up a ROM. I think wpbear's ROM has everything I wanted. But again, if I wanted to use your ROM, I would have to SuperCID? Also, where can I get your GUI?

But what is the best combination right now of OS, Ext, and radio?

Thanks again!

anubus12
20th February 2007, 02:37 AM
Also, where can I get your GUI?



Nevermind, I found your GUI. Thanks!

Sleuth255
20th February 2007, 02:57 AM
The only advantage of real SuperCID is being able to write to extrom once you've unlocked it.

You did a real nice v1.0 upgrade set of instructions btw :) They were perfect. In fact that's exactly what I did to upgrade my 8525.

However, the recent explosion of NBHtools that take advantage of Des' SSPL technique (nicely done Olipro btw ;))have opened up much better ways to accomplish this now.

Olipro
20th February 2007, 02:58 AM
Thank you for all the replies! I appreciate it.
@Olipro

Thanks for the offer of cooking up a ROM. I think wpbear's ROM has everything I wanted. But again, if I wanted to use your ROM, I would have to SuperCID? Also, where can I get your GUI?

But what is the best combination right now of OS, Ext, and radio?

Thanks again!

no, you do *not* have to SuperCID at all with my RUU since it uses SSPL.

if you use the custom RUU (and you can tell, it has the XDA Dev logo on) then your device does not need to be SuperCID

mrvanx
20th February 2007, 10:05 AM
@mrvanx

You said that I didn't need to downgrade to 1.04 BL because I could use 1.01MFG. I thought that I couldn't do that with 1.06 or higher. I had to downgrade to 1.04 first.


You SHOULD be ok, i downgraded to SPL 1.01MFG from version 1.09 by just flashing it using mtty.exe. I followed the instructions on the How to Flash AKU3.3 Update (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293085) thread (the first post) to get my new ROM onto my device. I used the HTC AKU3.3 Test ROM and it worked just great.

wpbear
20th February 2007, 08:45 PM
Thank you for all the replies! I appreciate it.

@mrvanx and wpbear

The reason stated using unlocker v2a was because, from what I understand, if I use v3 it would put a patched 1.08 Radio BL (which I thought we want to avoid). Which means that I won't be able to "downgrade" to a lower version radio. Am I wrong?
I do not think Pof unlocker put BL 108 on your device, but it doesnt matter anymore since SSPL bypass this and you can now still do radio only changes.



@wpbear

I assume in order to use your custom cooked ROM, I have to SuperCID right?
No, the bootloader bypasses this now, but as someone else pointed out, if you want to change your Ext_ROM with the hack in the Wiki later, you will need to SuperCID still.


But what is the best combination right now of OS, Ext, and radio?

OS/Ext ROM: 2.06
Radio 1.34 or 1.27

anubus12
21st February 2007, 05:24 AM
Then Run this cooked ROM (Cooked w/Olipro software)
http://uploadingit.com/files/8194/RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip
Rom: 2.06.502.3
Radion version: 1.27
SPL: 1.04
Ext Rom: 2.06.502.3




@wpbear

I used the cooked ROM RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip for the upgrade. One question, I have SPL 1.06 before upgrading. Since the cooked ROM has 1.04 in it, I thought it would downgrade to 1.04. Instead, the SPL did not change. Why?

rvc
21st February 2007, 09:10 AM
Same result, same question.
Why?

hellejoep
21st February 2007, 09:40 AM
Where can I download this Rom?
Download link doesn't work....

wpbear
21st February 2007, 05:23 PM
@wpbear

I used the cooked ROM RUU_CINGULAR_2.06.502.3_1.27.00.00_SPL1.04.zip for the upgrade. One question, I have SPL 1.06 before upgrading. Since the cooked ROM has 1.04 in it, I thought it would downgrade to 1.04. Instead, the SPL did not change. Why?

Are you SuperCID with POf unlocker?

rvc
22nd February 2007, 07:20 AM
SuperCID/unlock yes. POF no.
Wiki and numberous posts indicate if the unit is SuperCID, it is SuperCID period however there is a v2 v2a and v3.
Is there more to SuperCID than just SuperCID?
Sometimes it sticks and sometimes it does not?
Can v3 be run over top of an existing SuperCID/unlocked unit without risk?

wpbear
22nd February 2007, 01:21 PM
True you are either SuperCID or not, but we have seen people loose SuperCID for no apparent reason. Use mtty and check if you are still SuperCID.

rvc
26th February 2007, 06:36 AM
Still superCID, still 1.06.

walshieau
26th February 2007, 06:47 AM
Still superCID, still 1.06.

once you have superCID you can downgrade your bootloader by this http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_BootloaderMFG