Windows Mobile "XDA Live" Edition

[tbern123]

It is known that Microsoft & the Carriers watch this forum. I think this single thread demonstrates the desire for WM6 on the Hermes. HINT HINT....

Until anyone can PROVE everything I claim in this thread there is no worry.;) Hence the extreme caution in removing traces before release...


I hope people are having the respect, to let you get on with your work, instead of bombarding you with pm's asking you to include this and include that and when is it going to be released/

People should just be grateful and patient...........

[richy240]

I hope people are having the respect, to let you get on with your work, instead of bombarding you with pm's asking you to include this and include that and when is it going to be released/

People should just be grateful and patient...........

I agree! The more we bother these guys, the more time they have to spend reading our crap and the less time they can work on their Crossbow release. LEAVE THEM ALONE!

[Oliy]

I hope all the hard work that kyphur has put in to protecting his source hasn't just been blown...

[Oliy]

It's just a classic example of posting in a thread before reading it from beginning to end.

By the way, can someone tell me where I can download this XDA Live edition, and then tell me how to enable GPS on my device, finally can someone give me a link to download the Photon rom?

[Sleuth255]

@Oliy: LOL! :)

[kyphur]

These are NOT HERMES CROSSBOW!!!

When XDA Live is released it will be announced here by me.

I don't know if keny is another victim of the joke or the jokester himself but I'm deleting this chatter from the XDA Live Thread.

hllq://rapidshare.com/files<FAKE>Windows_Mobile_6.0_Crossbow_for_HTC_Hermes.rar.htm l


hiiq://muj.edisk.cz<FAKE>Windows_Mobile_6.0_Crossbow_for_HTC_Hermes.rar_42. 45MB.html

[jompao]

I have a feeling this will be the most frequently visited thread here... I'm already finding myself checkin in several times a day, even at work...

[tbern123]

I have a feeling this will be the most frequently visited thread here... I'm already finding myself checkin in several times a day, even at work...

Same here, I am like a little kid waiting for santa to come at christmas.. I keep looking out the window but no sign of rudolf yet.. But I know that if I wait he will come and it will all be worth it

[richy240]

(It's almost as if it never happened.)

[cyberdrakula]

Hey, Miss 2 days of checking posts thoroughly and see what you miss ! Damn! Looking forward to this release !

:D

[sugardad]

Hey, Miss 2 days of checking posts thoroughly and see what you miss ! Damn! Looking forward to this release !

:D
That's the main question, Are we there yet?
Is It this Weekend/By the end of this Weekend?
During Next Week?

BTW as far as previous post with the DUD "WM6 TyTN ROM" such a waste of bandwidth.... they're playing with our anxiety :mad: :(

[kyphur]

Since I have an 8525 I don't have the Video Call option. I need to know how this integrates into system.

Is it a button on the dialer or launched by pressing a hardware key.

Also I need screenshots of the interface so I can make the colors match where they should.

[AdamZhang]

just think of wm6.0 as vista. not much new in vista compare to xp.
so... not much new in wm6.0 from wm5.0, then u will feel better and dont mind the long wait..
that' what i do..

But the fact is that there ARE a lot of improvments compare to WM5.

Of course you can choose to wait patiently, but that don't have to be done thinking WM6 is nothing much.

I wait patiently because I know there are people busy doing their work to make the OS available, not because WM6 is no big deal.

Having Windows Live alone is already a good enough reason to those who can't live without MSN Messenger or Live Mail to think WM6 is great.

[AdamZhang]

In fact I am not even a Hermes user yet. I am asking my friend to get a set for me from Shanghai, the local set here in Singapore is just too expensive.

But I am already very keen to find out whether there is WM6 ready for my upcoming Hermes.

[stinger32]

I have a feeling how this will turn out. Because this is taking so long time microsoft will soon send a letter to kyphur that says something like this. "If you release this rom We will emty all your creditcards, steal your childrens candy, and rape your grandma, and make sure that you'l never can use a microsoft product ever again. :-) Damn I hope the last one happens to me and that I'll grab the rom before this come true.

[flipside101]

@ kyphur

I have vodafones version the V1605 which does video calls so im assuming its similar to the 8525.

There a number of ways I know of to initiate the video call:

Through a hard button on the front of the device

A Soft button on the dialler screen

Holding down the centre select key (the one in the centre of thw 4 way rocker) on a contact when browsing and selecting video call from the context menu.

Hope that helps and id like to add my thanks to you for teh work your putting in

Matt

P.S ill work on the screen shots but first i need to fix my device i seem to have screwed up the colouring on the dialler as i have pink boxes around my numbers when it should all be blue

[AdamZhang]

I have a feeling how this will turn out. Because this is taking so long time microsoft will soon send a letter to kyphur that says something like this. "If you release this rom We will emty all your creditcards, steal your childrens candy, and rape your grandma, and make sure that you'l never can use a microsoft product ever again. :-) Damn I hope the last one happens to me and that I'll grab the rom before this come true.

I thought M$ would in fact benefit from more people using their new OS? What's there for them to complain? If there are official versions available for sale I would purchase one as well, within a reasonable price of course.

They just don't understand. *shrugs*

[tadzio]

Since I have an 8525 I don't have the Video Call option. I need to know how this integrates into system.

Is it a button on the dialer or launched by pressing a hardware key.

Also I need screenshots of the interface so I can make the colors match where they should.

It is a button on the dialer screen. The rightmost column from top to bottom is: <-, Speed Dial, Call History, Video, Talk. So the Video button is just right of the "wxyz9" button. I think the other access methods will get automatically installed by installing the .cab mentioned below.

Have a look into the .cab I uploaded two days ago (you do have the WinCE CAB Manager, right?). If I remember correctly, you'll see references to the button images in there. As the .cab I sent you is a generic HTC one, it references only image files which are part of any HTC ROM, so you should be able to extract them from such a ROM. Thinking about it, they should even be in the WM6 image you're working on.

Cheers
Daniel

[Olipro]

How will they prove the ROM came from Kyphur... sure it's probable, but it needs to be *proveable*

[kyphur]

Rapidshare and unsecured wireless networks make my laptop a moving target! :p

How will they prove the ROM came from Kyphur... sure it's probable, but it needs to be *proveable*

[Olipro]

Rapidshare and unsecured wireless networks make my laptop a moving target! :p

heh, yeah, although Big Brother's not really after you... you haven't signed an NDA or anything, so I'd love to see them try.

[Midget_1990]

Rapidshare and unsecured wireless networks make my laptop a moving target! :p

that's what i do, I found one next to my college with 8mb SDSL! (8mb/s Download AND Upload :) )

just a tip, if im right in guessing the source, that text on the today screen and the appendage on the versions has only been seen in that rom and before then no-one knew the reg-key for it, if your trying to make it so it doesnt look like it came from your source surely deleting that key would be the best option?

keep up the good work :D

[kyphur]

Actually the DeviceBeta Key has alwyas been there. The wiki even lists it as a way to put your own text on the today screen.

If this was a brand new Reg Key I never would ahve mentioned it...

I've got to the point where I am modifying the registry hv (the file that builds the initial clean registry upon hard reset so any operator artifacts have been stripped from it.

just a tip, if im right in guessing the source, that text on the today screen and the appendage on the versions has only been seen in that rom and before then no-one knew the reg-key for it, if your trying to make it so it doesnt look like it came from your source surely deleting that key would be the best option?

[Lockjaw]

Since I have an 8525 I don't have the Video Call option. I need to know how this integrates into system.

Is it a button on the dialer or launched by pressing a hardware key.

Also I need screenshots of the interface so I can make the colors match where they should.

Hope these help;

You can see there is a hardware button on the Left at a 45 degree from the softkey buttons.
On the dialler screen it is self evident, second from the bottom on the far right.

All the best.

[Midget_1990]

Actually the DeviceBeta Key has alwyas been there. The wiki even lists it as a way to put your own text on the today screen.

If this was a brand new Reg Key I never would ahve mentioned it...

I've got to the point where I am modifying the registry hv (the file that builds the initial clean registry upon hard reset so any operator artifacts have been stripped from it.

my bad :)

what tools/kitchen are you using btw?

[kyphur]

Here is a Screenshot of the Dialer with Video Call.

Now understand that the image is a bit rough (anyone really good with photo shop who ca give me a better on, I'll send you clean dialer buttons it you can add the eye and text better.

[kyphur]

my bad :)

what tools/kitchen are you using btw?

IMGFS tools my Maimach...

aChef by a ahlok_hk...

rgucomp by Microsoft...

BTW, I think we'll end-up covering all the bases with this one, PTT for Cingular Users, Voice Call for the rest of the world and MS VOIP Calling for everyone!

[walshieau]

IMGFS tools my Maimach...

aChef by a ahlok_hk...

rgucomp by Microsoft...

BTW, I think we'll end-up covering all the bases with this one, PTT for Cingular Users, Voice Call for the rest of the world and MS VOIP Calling for everyone!

awesome... cant wait... how is it all coming along?

[tadzio]

Here is a Screenshot of the Dialer with Video Call.

Now understand that the image is a bit rough (anyone really good with photo shop who ca give me a better on, I'll send you clean dialer buttons it you can add the eye and text better.

I'm not good with photoshop either, so I just attached the original WM5 HTC .bmps of the Video Call button. For someone who knows his Photoshop, it should be simple to extract the handset, eye, and text, convert it to white color, and put it on top of a blank button image.

For the sake of completeness, I also added the Talk button bitmaps. The text "Talk" is contry specific and not part of the bitmap.

Cheers
Daniel

[Zgembo]

Here is a Screenshot of the Dialer with Video Call.

Now understand that the image is a bit rough (anyone really good with photo shop who ca give me a better on, I'll send you clean dialer buttons it you can add the eye and text better.Actually this is good enough, clean & clear, even better without too much eye-candy-bloat-design, if you please...

[mrvanx]

Say when we decided to use one of the themes included on the screenshots page, will it update the dialer with the same colour scheme??

For example when i installed the Aero Crossbow theme on my TyTN it looked fine but when i went into the dialer it still had the green HTC colour scheme. Is this nothing to do with the theme?

[kyphur]

No today themes are just that Today Themes.

Say when we decided to use one of the themes included on the screenshots page, will it update the dialer with the same colour scheme??

For example when i installed the Aero Crossbow theme on my TyTN it looked fine but when i went into the dialer it still had the green HTC colour scheme. Is this nothing to do with the theme?

[5n0rk]

FOR kyphur:

When will this ROM be ready?
Thank you very much!!!:D

[Midget_1990]

aChef by a ahlok_hk...


hmm, never heard of that one :P, could you possibly link me?

I have some tools made by ivan (automated IMGFS tools) and Tuatara (Same as ivan's just different layout and more features, also includes his semi-working RGUedit.exe)

PM me if you want links :)

[simonk12]

FOR kyphur:

When will this ROM be ready?
Thank you very much!!!:D

why do people keep asking those Qs:confused:

[robt2379]

...cos we want to know! Some kind of indication gives us something to work too.

We are all impatient, its like waiting for Christmas to arrive!

[scorpio16v]

hmm, never heard of that one :P, could you possibly link me?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294364

[pello]

FOR kyphur:

When will this ROM be ready?
Thank you very much!!!:D

when he would answer all the questions....i think NEVER :mad:

[simonk12]

...cos we want to know! Some kind of indication gives us something to work too.

We are all impatient, its like waiting for Christmas to arrive!


i'm also impatient, but it has been said several times, that it will take around a week or so till it's ready, given the limitation he has...
what good will it do if we keep asking those Qs instead of letting him work on it ?

[AdamZhang]

...cos we want to know! Some kind of indication gives us something to work too.

We are all impatient, its like waiting for Christmas to arrive!

Can you please read through at least the first few pages of this thread before asking questions?

It can be really irritating to see this kind of questions again and again.

[robt2379]

i'm also impatient, but it has been said several times, that it will take around a week or so till it's ready, given the limitation he has...
what good will it do if we keep asking those Qs instead of letting him work on it ?

Yeah we know that, but we're running out of things to say here otherwise! He aint answering so hopefully hes slaving away over a hot laptop even now..
Sooner or later, the answer will be "Its ready now"

After all, he did dangle the carrot, and now we're all hooked!

[steverae]

I have a question which i don't think has been asked yet, what is the status of the new wm6 rom with regards to IPL/SPL versions... for instance will we be able to downgrade back to wm5 etc or will the bootloader lock us into this version forever....

also do we need to have our devices already supercided ready or is there a workaround for this in the install which i hope we'll all get....

what will be the version of bootloader, radio, ext rom etc... does it have an extanded rom area and can that be unlocked using pof's tools or do we start again from scratch with this new wm6 version.....

hope this gives you guys enough to answer until the rom is released.....

[flyboy009]

I have a question which i don't think has been asked yet, what is the status of the new wm6 rom with regards to IPL/SPL versions... for instance will we be able to downgrade back to wm5 etc or will the bootloader lock us into this version forever....

also do we need to have our devices already supercided ready or is there a workaround for this in the install which i hope we'll all get....

what will be the version of bootloader, radio, ext rom etc... does it have an extanded rom area and can that be unlocked using pof's tools or do we start again from scratch with this new wm6 version.....

hope this gives you guys enough to answer until the rom is released.....

I think the rom/radio/ext rom versions are part of the cleanup, since each vendor has their own version this may give away who it came from. Also the new SSPL can flash on any bootloader so this nils the need for bootloader version or supercid.

[simonk12]

i guess you're right.though i'm sure we could go back to any other rom (hence you sould have a supercided device)

[richy240]

Here is a Screenshot of the Dialer with Video Call.

Now understand that the image is a bit rough (anyone really good with photo shop who ca give me a better on, I'll send you clean dialer buttons it you can add the eye and text better.

DO you still need this? I've got some Photoshop experience. I wouldn't say I'm really good, but I have done some things with it on a professional level (that is, I got paid for it)...

[Applestar]

Well, well - just read the entire thread - must have somehow missed it. And got to post something here in order to get notfication eMails on new thread entries ;)

I guess its quite clear the ROM will not be hosted here - we all do not want the beloved xda-dev site to get into any legal troubles. But well, it would be enough to torrent it a few hours.. ;)

[belinea]

Are the MS - WM Black (http://s188014421.onlinehome.us/WM6.Kyphur.Org/Images/Today%20Themes/MS%20-%20WM%20Black.JPG), Blue (http://s188014421.onlinehome.us/WM6.Kyphur.Org/Images/Today%20Themes/MS%20-%20WM%20Blue.JPG), Green (http://s188014421.onlinehome.us/WM6.Kyphur.Org/Images/Today%20Themes/MS%20-%20WM%20Green.JPG), Orange (http://s188014421.onlinehome.us/WM6.Kyphur.Org/Images/Today%20Themes/MS%20-%20WM%20Orange.JPG) and Yellow (http://s188014421.onlinehome.us/WM6.Kyphur.Org/Images/Today%20Themes/MS%20-%20WM%20Yellow.JPG) themes public available for download to use it on a WM5 device?

[tbern123]

I've updated the Original Post....

Screenshots of all the Today Themes (http://WM6.Kyphur.Org/Today%20Themes.asp)


Please, stop PMing asking for the Rom, I WILL NOT BURN THE SOURCE. :mad: If I appeased those asking then it is quite possible that in the long run it could delay the official release from the carrier and certian to close a very good source for things like this. Don't sell tommorow cheap for a little fun today.

I didn't start this thread to tease or taunt you guys. I wan't to give you hope and show that with some patience we will all have Crossbow.

I'm not the only person working on this, there are others checking my work and adding to it. I'm not the smartest guy here but I do have some time to devote to this.

No I can not promise that I will be able to release it prior to the official carrier release, sorry. I simply won't make promises I can't keep.

Yes, it will see the light of day in one form or another. The way I am scripting my changes to the Rom I can easily apply them to another Rom (from a different carrier or an updated version for this carrier).

Give the guy a break... He doesn't have to do this for us

[westcoastgeek]

Take as long as you need.

My hat goes off to you kyphur! We all have in our hands a cool piece of technology, but what makes it great is that it becomes something new with each upgrade of software, and the fact that we may soon have an easy solution to upgrade it to Crossbow makes it that much better.

So I say take your time, get it right, and we will forever be in your debt!

And those of us that get too impatient maybe focus on improving some other facet of the Tytn that can benefit everyone.

[Izzard-UK]

And got to post something here in order to get notfication eMails on new thread entries ;)

No, you haven't got to post to get notification emails. Just click "Thread Tools" at the top of the page and select "subscribe to thread".

If you go to your control panel ("User CP" link, top-left of each page) you can manage your subscriptions and choose daily updates or instantaneous ones, etc.

[shogunmark]

for those cingular people that care.. i think we may have PTT working on this rom :D just a few more files i have to find for the dialer, but the basic concept of being able to sign in is there which is a definite good sign!!

[Lockjaw]

for those cingular people that care.. i think we may have PTT working on this rom :D just a few more files i have to find for the dialer, but the basic concept of being able to sign in is there which is a definite good sign!!

I know I might be pushing it a bit here. But My Carrier will support Both Video Calls as well as PTT.
Thus is it possible to get both? Just a question as I am happy not to have PTT, if I have to choose but just asking. :D

Thanks,

[tco]

for those cingular people that care.. i think we may have PTT working on this rom :D just a few more files i have to find for the dialer, but the basic concept of being able to sign in is there which is a definite good sign!!


Just out of curiosity...is Smart Dial included?

[g35mt]

I just like to say thank you to kyphur and other xda member for trying to get this to us. Regardless if it does happen or not, it's the fact you guys attempt to help us, that itself deserve a thank you.

I have a question, i read on other thread about the current cingular update. Some have mentioned that because i didn't use the super cid dingy, that my phone is now lock to only cingular rom update. I am a bit confused because i am not very good at this stuff. If this rom was approve and release, am i totally screw because use the cingular update?

Again, appreciate what you and other done here.

g35mt

[cyberdrakula]

Any updates from the Windycity about XDA Live?

[shogunmark]

from the conversations between me and kyphur it is my understanding that he is going to have smartdial, video calling, and PTT optional... they will be in the rom (more than likely in the ext rom) and it will be up to the user to install them. I definitely suggested that with PTT since its 3meg+

Now what i am curious to see is how well all 3 of these will play together.. as they all use part of the dialer.. smartdial shouldnt really be an issue, but PTT has a different dialer screen and video calling uses a different button... maybe we can make these all play well together.. are there any dialer guru's out there?

[shogunmark]

I just like to say thank you to kyphur and other xda member for trying to get this to us. Regardless if it does happen or not, it's the fact you guys attempt to help us, that itself deserve a thank you.

I have a question, i read on other thread about the current cingular update. Some have mentioned that because i didn't use the super cid dingy, that my phone is now lock to only cingular rom update. I am a bit confused because i am not very good at this stuff. If this rom was approve and release, am i totally screw because use the cingular update?

Again, appreciate what you and other done here.

g35mt

No you are not screwed... if you didnt use the super cid then yes, it would have placed your cid at CWS__001 however there are ways to check and see.. there are numerous threads on this. i would check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285157

[shogunmark]

Any updates from the Windycity about XDA Live?

i think the windycity is cold and covered in snow right now :D oh but wait, you were talking about the rom... well i guess we will have to wait on that from kyphur

[koolhand79]

Boy waiting sure does SUCK. lol, but anything worth having is worth waiting for. So Kyphur and all u geniuses continue to work hard in the kitchen cooking this one up. Im about sick of this damn 2.06 and all these soft resets. im holding out flashing a new rom hoping this one will be out soon

[shogunmark]

Boy waiting sure does SUCK. lol, but anything worth having is worth waiting for. So Kyphur and all u geniuses continue to work hard in the kitchen cooking this one up. Im about sick of this damn 2.06 and all these soft resets. im holding out flashing a new rom hoping this one will be out soon

some people have had good luck with 2.06 and others havent.. i myself have had great luck with 2.06, its been the most solid, stable rom so far, i am actually quite impressed... but anyway.. back to cooking :D

[akbig]

Im waiting on this one too, its funny I searched everywhere and cant seen to find that 2.06 cingular update. I just got sick of looking so imma wait til this team cooks up something special with this rom. I know its gonna be worth the wait. I just hope that they dont take forever...

[simonk12]

Im waiting on this one too, its funny I searched everywhere and cant seen to find that 2.06 cingular update. .

it's all in the wiki

here ya go
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades

[daddy_yankee1980]

Looks great so far. When can we expect this rom to be released?
Looking forward to testing it out.

[keesvanstraaten]

How can i get this rom??

with regards??

[jasjamming]

How can i get this rom??

with regards??

read the thread from start to end.....

[Oliy]

Don't bother with XDA Live, get the Photon rom here:

http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/free/yeswearegivingitawayforfree/Hermes_Photon.zip (http://www.starkeith.net/infinity_pages/images/coredump/stfu_n00b.jpg)

Perhaps you should leave this reply in and point to it every time someone asks this question kyphur...

Hope you had a productive weekend by the way!

[fone_fanatic]

Don't bother with XDA Live, get the Photon rom here:

http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/free/yeswearegivingitawayforfree/Hermes_Photon.zip (http://www.starkeith.net/infinity_pages/images/coredump/stfu_n00b.jpg)

Perhaps you should leave this reply in and point to it every time someone asks this question kyphur...

Hope you had a productive weekend by the way!

hahaha!

The only real issue is that I am bound by a promise to my source to not distribute this Rom until the Carrier releases it or I can get ALL IDENTIFYING INFORMATION removed from it. trust me, I am working on it but there is absolutely no room for errors. Ironically the Rom seems more stable since I've modified it than it was when I received it.

Does this mean WM6 will be officially released by cingular?

[mousey_]

The Photon Rom Looks Well Cool.

It's Much Speedier Than My WM5 Roms Were :).

Thanks Oliy

Cheers

[ibanyard]

Can you include the attached?

Its used by vistas WMDC and for the device under My Computer. Unzip and include in \windows folder on the device...

(Note if not displayed connect device, remove PocketPC device in device manager. Disconnect device, reboot pc, reboot device and reconnect.)


edit
from http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/samsung-i730-i830-i830w/85310-vista-windows-mobile-device-center-picture-icon-hack.html

[xl46]

Seems it is gone, any one has the link on share sites?
Don't bother with XDA Live, get the Photon rom here:

http://www.microsoft.com/mobile/free/yeswearegivingitawayforfree/Hermes_Photon.zip (http://www.starkeith.net/infinity_pages/images/coredump/stfu_n00b.jpg)

Perhaps you should leave this reply in and point to it every time someone asks this question kyphur...

Hope you had a productive weekend by the way!

[raymondu999]

If you noticed, it was a prank from the getaway (no offense meant here Oliy). There is no link. It just goes to that pic of "STFU Noob!!"

Btw, is there an ETA on this ROM?

[Oliy]

Going by Kyphur's original estimate, which was about a week, would give an ETA of the 28th, Wednesday.

As he mentioned however, this is not definite and could be moved back (or forwards) depending on his success with cleaning out identifying references and the satisfaction of his "contact" with the work he has done on this.

[edit]
What amazes me is that not only do people refuse to read an entire thread, but also refuse to read the last post as well.

[raymondu999]

Lol. How so very true. Though I myself am guilty of it as well sometimes

[Tony K.]

Kyphur youre worse than those lowlifes giving away drugs for free to kids to get them hooked. Starting this thread is like dangling a bag of heroin in front of an addict in rehab. My SWMBO hates you for making me check this thread about every 5 minutes. Bad, bad kyphur!!!

[xcsdm]

Will VoiceCommand work properly with this ROM, or shall I continue my efforts in developing a real BT patch for VoiceCommand?

I'm hacing to do so much modding of the original DLLs that I will avoid if this ROM works correctly and comes to fruition.

Thx
XCSdM

[jompao]

I'm really curious to see if bluetooth has improved and especially A2DP...

[tco]

i think the windycity is cold and covered in snow right now :D oh but wait, you were talking about the rom... well i guess we will have to wait on that from kyphur

Not too much snow...more rain and sleet more than anything...real sloppy out today...might take kyphur a little more time to get to work today....patience.

[kyphur]

Unfortunately the Voice Command 1.6 BT Issues lingers...

Will VoiceCommand work properly with this ROM, or shall I continue my efforts in developing a real BT patch for VoiceCommand?

I'm hacing to do so much modding of the original DLLs that I will avoid if this ROM works correctly and comes to fruition.

Thx
XCSdM

[raymondu999]

Finally! The threadstarter himself replies! So, any updated ETA on the ROM, kyphur?

[BigBen]

Not too much snow...more rain and sleet more than anything...real sloppy out today...might take kyphur a little more time to get to work today....patience.

Kyphur, it sounds like the weather is a mess up there. Better stay home and off those dangerous icy streets! ;)

Keep up the good work, and thanks!

Ben

[TheMaster666]

Does this mean WM6 will be officially released by cingular?

I doubt it. At least not for a while even if they do..

They don't even have a roadmap for WM6 devices yet..
(At least that is what I got from the Cingular Developers Forum.)

The first product Cingular will probably have with WM6 will be a new product which the Manufactuer will have it loaded to start with..

[patmannyc]

It will probably be the GSM Q to start the parade...

[kyphur]

First, yes my carrier is Cingular but that doesn't mean this Rom is from Cingular. I'm actually blending bit & pieces together from Different Roms (at least 2 WM6 Roms and a few files from AKU 3.3 for PTT etc.).

PTT, SmartDialer & Voice Call are not native to this Rom. We are working to add support for them.

One problem is that it looks like PTT and Video Call both enable an extra dialer button which means that we can't have them both.

I'm begining to think that I can't enable SmartDialer without adding that extra button. Maybe if folks only want SD I can include a dummy button that has no label and is always greyed-out.

This would give us 4 dialer options:

Stock, no Video Call, Smart Dialer or PTT.
Smart Dialer Only.
Video Call with Smart Dialer.
PTT with Smart Dialer,I still have just over 8 megs free in the Rom Image so we should be able to include all of the files needed for each option and then use simplified cab files to enable their choice.

Anyone here like golf? If I have the free space I'm thinking of adding "Nine Hole Golf" that MS had for free download. (I will only embed free software)

Then that just leave cleaning out the Build Numbers from the OS & Camera Apps.

[BigBen]

I doubt it. At least not for a while even if they do..

They don't even have a roadmap for WM6 devices yet..
(At least that is what I got from the Cingular Developers Forum.)

The first product Cingular will probably have with WM6 will be a new product which the Manufactuer will have it loaded to start with..

Cingular Developers Fourm?? Could you provide a link, please. Or do you mean the Cingular user's forum?
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Nevermind, found it! I had never seen this site before.

[raymondu999]

I vote option 3

[dh]

First, yes my carrier is Cingular but that doesn't mean this Rom is from Cingular. I'm actually blending bit & pieces together from Different Roms (at least 2 WM6 Roms and a few files from AKU 3.3 for PTT etc.).

PTT, SmartDialer & Voice Call are not native to this Rom. We are working to add support for them.

One problem is that it looks like PTT and Video Call both enable an extra dialer button which means that we can't have them both.

I'm begining to think that I can't enable SmartDialer without adding that extra button. Maybe if folks only want SD I can include a dummy button that has no label and is always greyed-out.

This would give us 4 dialer options:

Stock, no Video Call, Smart Dialer or PTT.
Smart Dialer Only.
Video Call with Smart Dialer.
PTT with Smart Dialer,I still have just over 8 megs free in the Rom Image so we should be able to include all of the files needed for each option and then use simplified cab files to enable their choice.

Anyone here like golf? If I have the free space I'm thinking of adding "Nine Hole Golf" that MS had for free download. (I will only embed free software)

Then that just leave cleaning out the Build Numbers from the OS & Camera Apps.

Like the idea of the options, keeps everyone happy.
Go with the Golf, if the space is there might as well be used

[BrumBrum74]

I vote option 3 as well.

[dh]

I vote option 3 as well.

Isn't the idea to have all options available in the ROM and you install the one you want with the simple cabs?

[drbowden]

First, yes my carrier is Cingular but that doesn't mean this Rom is from Cingular. I'm actually blending bit & pieces together from Different Roms (at least 2 WM6 Roms and a few files from AKU 3.3 for PTT etc.).

PTT, SmartDialer & Voice Call are not native to this Rom. We are working to add support for them.

One problem is that it looks like PTT and Video Call both enable an extra dialer button which means that we can't have them both.

I'm begining to think that I can't enable SmartDialer without adding that extra button. Maybe if folks only want SD I can include a dummy button that has no label and is always greyed-out.

This would give us 4 dialer options:

Stock, no Video Call, Smart Dialer or PTT.
Smart Dialer Only.
Video Call with Smart Dialer.
PTT with Smart Dialer,I still have just over 8 megs free in the Rom Image so we should be able to include all of the files needed for each option and then use simplified cab files to enable their choice.

Anyone here like golf? If I have the free space I'm thinking of adding "Nine Hole Golf" that MS had for free download. (I will only embed free software)

Then that just leave cleaning out the Build Numbers from the OS & Camera Apps.

I like the idea of adding capability to the ROM but not on an either/or for the US PTT customers vs. the video call customers.

For what its worth . . . .

Dean
Cingular 8500
ROM 2.06

[raymondu999]

I believe dh has a point. no offense to those of you golfers here, but I personally, despite loving the game in real life, don't quite like playing the game on any kind of console. No offense meant here kyphur, but some people might not appreciate these selective additions to your ROM. Not that they should be ingrates after sapping your ROM anyways, but hey! That's life.

[trion]

Isn't the idea to have all options available in the ROM and you install the one you want with the simple cabs?

Yep, It's already in the ext rom I now have. So just upgrading the os will then install the cabs and I should have Smartdial and videocall.

[bubu23]

you know folks what so funny with all that rom thing
is that we buy our hermes(jasjam) few month ago and steel we dont
have good and stable rom version
when we finally have the rom we want then we can buy newer mobile
with newer things i soon gonna buy the flame

i cant wait longer its boring and not stable all that roms :confused:

you know im right


right?

[kyphur]

First, since they use the same dialer extention for the button it simply will have to be one or the other, unless someone her can write me a new dialer that has two extra option buttons :)

So preserve storage space (that precious limited commodity) I should be able to have all of the required files embedded into the rom.

Then to enable your choice you will simply install the Cab file which enable your preferred dialer version. These Cab file will allow uninstall (unlike the carrier cabs) so you can change your mind.

On a side note regarding Nine Hole Golf, I'll accept suggestions on other free games that I can include but I will only embed free software and what I can put in depends on how much space is left after the essentials are there.

[ZaJules]

Yip

I just got my KJam the way I liked it. Fast Stable etc on WM6 and then I sold it for a Hermes. At least it looks as if we will have some good cooked roms here soon and I love the thought of a simple way of cooking our own roms.

Thanks


Jules

[bubu23]

im gonna cooked for now my chicken and potato and wait for the rom

cant we put sim card on the laptop so we can carry our laptop with us and speak anywere lolll

it will be the best pocket laptop ever loll

just joke i want to change somthing on my phone

ok ill wait till 8 pm i hope the rom will be kooked

:o

[ibeqa]

We could use this game (Pocket Conquest). It is a very good and simple game(and free also). Anybody who played Risk game will know it because it is the same game.

[fm01]

Is the DotNet Compact Framework 2.0 included in this ROM?

[ibeqa]

Is the DotNet Compact Framework 2.0 included in this ROM?

Net CF 2.0 is part of WM6 rom as far as I know

[bubu23]

can someone tell me why we dont have java in the explorer or how we can put it on so we can controll many java sites????

[netnerd]

can someone tell me why we dont have java in the explorer or how we can put it on so we can controll many java sites????

well. go fuck Sun Microsystems! back in the days, Microsoft included java in Windows ME. then Sunw sued them for monopoly. I believe the court banned microsoft from including java?

[arghness]

I agree, I find the apps more useful than games (but always happy to have those too, if there's space!).

If you're still looking for things to fill the last few bytes, how about some SIP tools?

1) SIPChange (to pick your favourite SIP)
2) QPZII and PHM Ext. Keyboard (to disable the popup SIP when you are using the slide-out keyboard).

I think that there is another SIP alternative to PHM Ext. Keyboard that is also free, but I can't remember the name offhand.

[arghness]

can someone tell me why we dont have java in the explorer or how we can put it on so we can controll many java sites????

Do you mean Java or Javascript/ECMAscript?

There aren't all that many sites that require Java. Opera for WM has better Javascript support than PIE, so you could try that out.

I don't know of a PPC browser that supports a full embedded Java VM though. Most of JREs are CLDC/MIDP based anyway, rather than full Java.

Edit: Oh poop. Double posted again. Sorry :/

[ZaJules]

I think that there is another SIP alternative to PHM Ext. Keyboard that is also free, but I can't remember the name offhand.

From what I saw on WM6 for the Wizard. The SIP does not pop up anymore when you slide open the keyboard.

[scorpio16v]

Is the base ROM from UK T-Mobile ?

[bubu23]

arghness

i want to surf some site like webcam sites or live stream and the java miss
i need java to see that i dont have play button or missed buttons without java

for that you need or java or active-x

[ach2]

Is the base ROM from UK T-Mobile ?

Not the brightest question considering Kypher is trying to protect his source... besides in the thread he already says that he's cooking from a couple of versions of WM6...

[scorpio16v]

Not the brightest question considering Kypher is trying to protect his source... besides in the thread he already says that he's cooking from a couple of versions of WM6...
That's correct, but if I guess right he should do his job verry good.
Because "someone" has written about it before in an other forum.

[kyphur]

LOL, I guess this is where I say RTFT (Read The F&%$^'en Thread):eek:

Beside, it does not matter which carrier the sources come from as ALL carrier specific stuff has been surgically removed. This thing is like HTC would release to the carriers for customization!

Is the base ROM from UK T-Mobile ?
Not the brightest question considering Kyphur is trying to protect his source... besides in the thread he already says that he's cooking from a couple of versions of WM6...

[arghness]

arghness

i want to surf some site like webcam sites or live stream and the java miss
i need java to see that i dont have play button or missed buttons without java

for that you need or java or active-x

Oh, _that_ kind of site ;)

Well, ActiveX is binary compiled, so wouldn't run on a WM device.

Java... I don't know of any VM that plugs in to PIE. I'm not sure that you'd get a good viewing experience on this device anyway due to processing constraints.

I'd rather see an up to date Flash plugin myself, for YouTube, GoogleVideo, etc., as well as all the other Flash websites.

</offtopic>

[weinson]

it is a race to see whether Cingular/HTC gets around to officially releasing the ROM upgrade we all already have (and love/hate) or whether this XDA ROM will come out and we can forget about the Cingular update once and for all (really just a question of how many times I have to flash the ROM on my device).

I am in the minority of folks who is going to try to install goodlink onto this new ROM [since I use it for my work email] ... any predictions whether or not it will be successful?

[scorpio16v]

LOL, I guess this is where I say RTFT (Read The F&%$^'en Thread):eek:

Beside, it does not matter which carrier the sources come from as ALL carrier specific stuff has been surgically removed. This thing is like HTC would release to the carriers for customization!

Be sure I read the FT (every single post) :D

[ibeqa]

Be sure I read the FT (every single post) :D

there is a lot of desinformation circulating in the internet regarding wm6 for hermes (like the fake hermes wm6 rom in rapideshare). And lot of people base their assumptions on those infos.

[BigBen]

LOL, I guess this is where I say RTFT (Read The F&%$^'en Thread):eek:

Beside, it does not matter which carrier the sources come from as ALL carrier specific stuff has been surgically removed. This thing is like HTC would release to the carriers for customization!

You have been very patient, Kyphur, but they finally got to you, didn't they? :) Hang in there. Don't check the thread too often. Stay in the kitchen, and say hello to my home town, Chicago.

Regards,
Ben, now in Florida

[zwuncki]

it's already written in the first post, i know, but after all these posts with new games, themes etc. i have to say it:

I hope there will be a choice of a clean rom and a customized one. i so want a clean rom with no additional apps, games, themes etc. just the wm6 rom.

i can't wait for it. a big thx from me too for working so hard on it.

[kyphur]

No, they haven't gotten to me yet, I'm just funn'en with 'em:D

BTW, see this image, I'm including the WMP 11 Skin for Windows Media Player. I've increased the size of the Album Art also...

You have been very patient, Kyphur, but they finally got to you, didn't they? :) Hang in there. Don't check the thread too often. Stay in the kitchen, and say hello to my home town, Chicago.

Regards,
Ben, now in Florida

[bubu23]

kyphur!!!!

plz continue the work im from israel if you want i can send you

nice girls to massage you but plz cook fast but not to fast so the rom wont be burn;)

[weinson]

you are just teasing us with images like that ... will sit patiently with eager anticipation for release of the *final* product (realizing that, in a project like this, final will never really occur)

[BigBen]

No, they haven't gotten to me yet, I'm just funn'en with 'em:D

BTW, see this image, I'm including the WMP 11 Skin for Windows Media Player. I've increased the size of the Album Art also...

Hey, Kyphur, I guess I should know that, from your posts. You are extremely patient. Best regards, and many, many thanks ('specially if I don't have to go through the whole downgrade BL, Super CID and all that stuff. I am just a dumb user, not a genius like so many of you guys :) I say that with all respect.

"Warm regards" from Florida

Ben

[kyphur]

This additional stuff is being kept to a minimum (a couple of games and a few light apps that add functionality) They do not use any memory unless you use them.

I added PHM RegEdit so we immediately have the Added feature of a Registry Editor.

I added SMS Backup because I've read so many "Is there anyway to backup/restore my Text Messages" I felt this would be nice to have built-in.

HTweakC is there because we each have certian registry tweaks that we like and this program allows us to do them easily. Plus I like how we can save our prefences to a file, copy it to our storage card or Ext Rom and load it back after a hard reset.

VJCandelaLite is there cause it's cool to use my 8525 as a flashlight and now I can carry one less thing on my keychain!

Enough people complain about wanting to manage the auto-correction dictionary that I included it.

Hearts is there 'cause it just should be.

For those who want to cook their own Rom, I will include a version with absolutely nothing (except the Dialers for SmartDial, Voice Call & PTT). This will save you from having to remove the files and edit the configuration where they are references.

If you are not cooking your own Rom then you will see no benefit to removing these files.

it's already written in the first post, i know, but after all these posts with new games, themes etc. i have to say it:

I hope there will be a choice of a clean rom and a customized one. i so want a clean rom with no additional apps, games, themes etc. just the wm6 rom.

i can't wait for it. a big thx from me too for working so hard on it.

[jullian_d]

has anyone seen this....look like some good news "Monday, February 26, 2007
Windows Mobile 6 Upgrades Available for Free to Existing Vendors
Posted by Mike Temporale @ 09:30 AM

Everyone has been wondering if their device will see an update to Windows Mobile 6. In the past, very few manufacturers and carriers have gone down that path. There's a significant cost required in buying the new license and customizing it for the device and of course, testing it on the device and networks. Hopefully things will be different this time. We've just learned that Microsoft has given a free license to vendors who will upgrade their devices. So I think it's clear that Microsoft understands the frustration that all of us feel when a new OS is released and are trying to change things. It's expected that HTC will offer upgrades for any device with a keyboard - as all of you Dash/Excalibur users are already aware. Unfortunately we don't know what Motorola or Samsung plan to do about this. The ball is in the carriers and manufacturers court. Let's hope they don't drop it. "
http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/

[jompao]

No, they haven't gotten to me yet, I'm just funn'en with 'em:D

BTW, see this image, I'm including the WMP 11 Skin for Windows Media Player. I've increased the size of the Album Art also...

Cool! maby we shall rename the rom to XDA-Ultimate :)

[lpsi2000]

@kyphur,

I like your selection of applications. The weather is beautiful here, it is snowing again. keep up with the great work your doing.

[weinson]

Any chance of getting a big button dialer (like eten dialer) for us with stubby fingers?

[kyphur]

'cause we need to support PTT and Video Call, nope....

If you don't want either of thse then you can install the ETEN Dialer, I've confirmed it works with this Rom.

Any chance of getting a big button dialer (like eten dialer) for us with stubby fingers?

[weinson]

'cause we need to support PTT and Video Call, nope....

If you don't want either of thse then you can install the ETEN Dialer, I've confirmed it works with this Rom.

Well - thanks for the response ... I have managed to get the Dr. Shultz version of eten dialer with smartdial (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1143291&postcount=18) working on my device, and while the smartdial works it craps out the jog wheel functionality (to go quickly to recent dialed list or speed dial list). I will work with others on other threads to see if that issue can be addressed so, for those of us who don't care about PTT or video, we have a good option.

[mrvanx]

Its about time i had a RegEditor on my Hermes, i dont know how ive managed to leave it alone!

Keep up the good work dude, after the low of loosing out on our ROM hosting we are in need of a high spirited ROM change hehe. ;)

[robt2379]

Hey

For those of us that arent in the US of A, can anyone tell me what "PTT" is?
Im on Tmobile in the UK and can use 3G Video calling (used it once)

So is it Press To Talk or something??

[mrvanx]

Hey

For those of us that arent in the US of A, can anyone tell me what "PTT" is?
Im on Tmobile in the UK and can use 3G Video calling (used it once)

So is it Press To Talk or something??

ALMOST sir, its "Push To Talk". Kind of like using your phone like a 2 way radio where you can just press the button and chatter to the other person without dialing. I believe it can be done to anyone with a PTT enabled device on the network. Would be like you using PTT to talk to someone the other end of the country instantly.

(correct me if im wrong people)

[mousey_]

Im Guessing It Wouldn't Work Here As Our Carriers Do Not Support Thr PTT Function, Therferoe The Network Wouldn't Know What To Do With It.

It Would Be Cool To Have It Work Though, In The USA Is It Cheaper To PTT Than To Phone Someone Normally?

Cheers

[robt2379]

Thanks guys, wasnt far off then.
Never heard of it in the UK, other than perhaps a version in the Airwave Public Safety radio system used by the emergency services (works on the mobile phone system)

Cheers

[patmannyc]

PTT will be in Europe soon, on vodafone's 750 update they refer to the side button as the "PTT BUTTON." And that update was originally posted on the NL website, and later removed for unknown reasons.

[steverae]

So with regards to xda-live (i like the xda-ultimate actually) is the extended rom going to be unlocked.

as i personally install various cabs from my carrier, remove the rest of the 'crap' and use the free space to store installed programs such as tomtom etc to free up main memory....

BTW was hoping this would have been ready today (it would have made a great birthday present....)

keep up the great work..... waiting patiently

[mixmaven]

You Can Always Tell When Mousey_ Posts Because Every First Letter Is Capitalized. There Must Be A Setting That Can Fix That. :P

An ice storm knocked out our power Saturday, still running all of my house and shop on my generator but happy that I still have DSL!! Keep the screen shots coming, they look great!

-mix

[mitch345]

After 5 days and 380 posts what we have ? Nothing...

As Sleuth said, there is a lot of people playing with WM6 ROMs for Hermes but nobody come to this forum to talk about or to show pics because there no need to give false hopes to people...

What we know actually is that kyphur has cooked a WM6 for Hermes who seemed to work well. This is a great news !

The bad is that he doesn't want to share with us for strange reasons :

1) kyphur is waiting for WM6 to be released... WM6 has been announced by M$ at the 3GSM congress in Barcelona and first phones with WM6 are arriving in shops. So my question is : Is this point fullfiled for you, kyphur ? Because I have to inform you that a WM6 for Hermes will never be release so don't wait for that...

2) You would like to protect your source. It is a very important point and I totally agree with that. I don't want to hear about a guy who would finish his life in jail (or on a death chair, crazy americans...). The point here is that you said you already removed chirugically all stuff who could identify your source. So now you just need to show the ROM to your source, isn't it ?

To conclude I'm a bit surprised that we are all waiting for something we will probably never have in our hands because more time it takes, less chance we have... M$ is watching us...

Please kyphur, don't give people false hopes, give them a release date or close this thread.

[the_passenger]

After 5 days and 380 posts what we have ? Nothing...

As Sleuth said, there is a lot of people playing with WM6 ROMs for Hermes but nobody come to this forum to talk about or to show pics because there no need to give false hopes to people...

What we know actually is that kyphur has cooked a WM6 for Hermes who seemed to work well. This is a great news !

The bad is that he doesn't want to share with us for strange reasons :

1) kyphur is waiting for WM6 to be released... WM6 has been announced by M$ at the 3GSM congress in Barcelona and first phones with WM6 are arriving in shops. So my question is : Is this point fullfiled for you, kyphur ? Because I have to inform you that a WM6 for Hermes will never be release so don't wait for that...

2) You would like to protect your source. It is a very important point and I totally agree with that. I don't want to hear about a guy who would finish his life in jail (or on a death chair, crazy americans...). The point here is that you said you already removed chirugically all stuff who could identify your source. So now you just need to show the ROM to your source, isn't it ?

To conclude I'm a bit surprised that we are all waiting for something we will probably never have in our hands because more time it takes, less chance we have... M$ is watching us...

Please kyphur, don't give people false hopes, give them a release date or close this thread.


and I think your post should be deleted so the rest of us can still have some hope. No hard feeling there.

[kyphur]

Mitch, I'll respond to each item:
After 5 days and 380 posts what we have ? Nothing...

As Sleuth said, there is a lot of people playing with WM6 ROMs for Hermes but nobody come to this forum to talk about or to show pics because there no need to give false hopes to people...
False hopes? At the very least everyone here now knows that WM6 is on the Hermes. The reason for sharing? Well, I got tired of all the "Is it real" and "Follow this to find it" threads, so I asked my source for the okay to post some info and screenshots (even the exact images were submitted for approval before I posted them).

I will not be goaded into "showing all of my cards" and releasing it before I can. I do not need to prove anything to you.
What we know actually is that kyphur has cooked a WM6 for Hermes who seemed to work well. This is a great news !
Actually, you really can't prove that :rolleyes:
The bad is that he doesn't want to share with us for strange reasons :
You are incorrect, I WANT DESPERATELY TO SHARE THIS WITH EVERYONE HERE if for no other reason than just to moon M$.

1) kyphur is waiting for WM6 to be released... WM6 has been announced by M$ at the 3GSM congress in Barcelona and first phones with WM6 are arriving in shops. So my question is : Is this point fullfiled for you, kyphur ? Because I have to inform you that a WM6 for Hermes will never be release so don't wait for that...

Please state your sources on that cause they are contrary to what several other have said. Indeed I have received word that the Primary Base for WMXL will be released by a carrier.

2) You would like to protect your source. It is a very important point and I totally agree with that. I don't want to hear about a guy who would finish his life in jail (or on a death chair, crazy americans...). The point here is that you said you already removed chirugically all stuff who could identify your source. So now you just need to show the ROM to your source, isn't it?
There are still a few build numbers imbedded in it, I have asked my source if they want review my efforts so far to confirm that I have not missed anything. Bottom line is I made a promise when I received access to the files that made this possible, I WILL NOT BREAK THAT PROMISE. Until "Source X" gives the go ahead I can not release it.

No they probably wouldn't end up in jail or anything but it could end their access to future Roms. Why are you so willing to sell tomorrow for a quick fix today?
To conclude I'm a bit surprised that we are all waiting for something we will probably never have in our hands because more time it takes, less chance we have... M$ is watching us...

Please kyphur, don't give people false hopes, give them a release date or close this thread.
M$ can watch all they want but there is nothing they can do until it is released. They can't try to trace the source until they can get their hands on the Rom and tear it apart to dig for traces.

They can't even prove that I have WM6 as all I've posted is screenshots and we've all seen those get faked easily.

Since you are the only one calling for this thread to be closed, simply ignore it.

[ibeqa]

After 5 days and 380 posts what we have ? Nothing...

As Sleuth said, there is a lot of people playing with WM6 ROMs for Hermes but nobody come to this forum to talk about or to show pics because there no need to give false hopes to people...

What we know actually is that kyphur has cooked a WM6 for Hermes who seemed to work well. This is a great news !

The bad is that he doesn't want to share with us for strange reasons :

1) kyphur is waiting for WM6 to be released... WM6 has been announced by M$ at the 3GSM congress in Barcelona and first phones with WM6 are arriving in shops. So my question is : Is this point fullfiled for you, kyphur ? Because I have to inform you that a WM6 for Hermes will never be release so don't wait for that...

2) You would like to protect your source. It is a very important point and I totally agree with that. I don't want to hear about a guy who would finish his life in jail (or on a death chair, crazy americans...). The point here is that you said you already removed chirugically all stuff who could identify your source. So now you just need to show the ROM to your source, isn't it ?

To conclude I'm a bit surprised that we are all waiting for something we will probably never have in our hands because more time it takes, less chance we have... M$ is watching us...

Please kyphur, don't give people false hopes, give them a release date or close this thread.

For your info:
There is a WM6 for Hermes (M$ used hermes as its testing platform), for all htc devices that were never upgraded there was a ready rom but carriers did'nt want to offer it (even though M$ offered to them).
And if Kyphur said that according to his source there will be official upgrade i belive it (maybe not all carriers will do it). Who would try to do all this work just to make fun of us!!!

[kyphur]

Actually, I have a thing for Chinese Women but I've been neglecting my ladies lately :D

Thanks for the offer...

kyphur!!!!

plz continue the work im from israel if you want i can send you

nice girls to massage you but plz cook fast but not to fast so the rom wont be burn;)

[tbern123]

I don't know why people just can't sit back and wait for kyphur to finish.

In relation to his source, I for one wouldn't risk my job, my career just to let a group of stangers upgrade their mobile phones.

If Kyphur decides in the end that he can't release this without risking his source, it won't be the end of the worl. We will all still be able to use our phones as before.

I am grateful for Kyphur releasing snippets of information, it is interest to learn what work is required to cook a rom. I hope one day through sites such as this I will be able to cook my own rom.

In summary don't knock the guy for trying to help.. just sit back and wait...


ALL GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE THAT WAIT !!

[steverae]

After 5 days and 380 posts what we have ? Nothing...

As Sleuth said, there is a lot of people playing with WM6 ROMs for Hermes but nobody come to this forum to talk about or to show pics because there no need to give false hopes to people...

What we know actually is that kyphur has cooked a WM6 for Hermes who seemed to work well. This is a great news !

The bad is that he doesn't want to share with us for strange reasons :

1) kyphur is waiting for WM6 to be released... WM6 has been announced by M$ at the 3GSM congress in Barcelona and first phones with WM6 are arriving in shops. So my question is : Is this point fullfiled for you, kyphur ? Because I have to inform you that a WM6 for Hermes will never be release so don't wait for that...

2) You would like to protect your source. It is a very important point and I totally agree with that. I don't want to hear about a guy who would finish his life in jail (or on a death chair, crazy americans...). The point here is that you said you already removed chirugically all stuff who could identify your source. So now you just need to show the ROM to your source, isn't it ?

To conclude I'm a bit surprised that we are all waiting for something we will probably never have in our hands because more time it takes, less chance we have... M$ is watching us...

Please kyphur, don't give people false hopes, give them a release date or close this thread.

Sorry but it's posts like this that can really cause developers to say "hEY f**K IT I DON'T NEED THIS S**T"

Please, if you can't make a sensible or helpful post, don't post at all.

[mrvanx]

Sorry but it's posts like this that can really cause developers to say "hEY f**K IT I DON'T NEED THIS S**T"

Please, if you can't make a sensible or helpful post, don't post at all.

I agree.

I REALLY held back from responsing to that post but ive been beat to it!
Why cant people just quit with the pathetic rants just because they cant wait for anything (if anyone here has worked in retail they will understand my frustration with idiots like this).

Kyphur, youre a legend, nuff said.

[BlueAnt1958]

After 5 days and 380 posts what we have ? Nothing...

As Sleuth said, there is a lot of people playing with WM6 ROMs for Hermes but nobody come to this forum to talk about or to show pics because there no need to give false hopes to people...

What we know actually is that kyphur has cooked a WM6 for Hermes who seemed to work well. This is a great news !

The bad is that he doesn't want to share with us for strange reasons :

1) kyphur is waiting for WM6 to be released... WM6 has been announced by M$ at the 3GSM congress in Barcelona and first phones with WM6 are arriving in shops. So my question is : Is this point fullfiled for you, kyphur ? Because I have to inform you that a WM6 for Hermes will never be release so don't wait for that...

2) You would like to protect your source. It is a very important point and I totally agree with that. I don't want to hear about a guy who would finish his life in jail (or on a death chair, crazy americans...). The point here is that you said you already removed chirugically all stuff who could identify your source. So now you just need to show the ROM to your source, isn't it ?

To conclude I'm a bit surprised that we are all waiting for something we will probably never have in our hands because more time it takes, less chance we have... M$ is watching us...

Please kyphur, don't give people false hopes, give them a release date or close this thread.

This is exactly the type of thing that Kyphur said at the beginning that prevents him from working on the rom as he must take time out to answer.

The vast majority of us wait and rely on guys like Kyphur to do this type of work because the carriers and microsnot just can't get it right. They cook these roms in the pursuit of perfection on their own time. From reading the wiki over the past few months I have realised that there is a team of very clever people working to make our phones better than they are when purchased.

Abusing them just wastes their precious time. When it is ready and it can be released I believe it will be. The majority of us still will wait patiently.:)

[taguapire]

it is a race to see whether Cingular/HTC gets around to officially releasing the ROM upgrade we all already have (and love/hate) or whether this XDA ROM will come out and we can forget about the Cingular update once and for all (really just a question of how many times I have to flash the ROM on my device).

I am in the minority of folks who is going to try to install goodlink onto this new ROM [since I use it for my work email] ... any predictions whether or not it will be successful?

Hi,

I asked at HTC about WM6 release for TyTn and it is the response:

Thank you for contacting HTC Europe regarding a query about ROM update.

We are currently awaiting an official response from our Head Office on the matter of ROM updates from Windows Mobile 5.0 to Windows Mobile 6.0. We hope to have an answer for you soon.? Please contact us again in a few weeks and we may be able to give you an update.

Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html

Best regards,
Jon Thompson
HTC Support
callservice@htceurope.com
http://www.htc.com

[ach2]

I don't know why people just can't sit back and wait for kyphur to finish.

In relation to his source, I for one wouldn't risk my job, my career just to let a group of stangers upgrade their mobile phones.

If Kyphur decides in the end that he can't release this without risking his source, it won't be the end of the worl. We will all still be able to use our phones as before.

I am grateful for Kyphur releasing snippets of information, it is interest to learn what work is required to cook a rom. I hope one day through sites such as this I will be able to cook my own rom.

In summary don't knock the guy for trying to help.. just sit back and wait...


ALL GOOD THINGS COME TO THOSE THAT WAIT !!

I'll drink to that... Even without this ROM being released I've learned loads - I can now unlock and flash my phone, make my own extended Rom, hack the registry with impunity (ish :rolleyes: ) but most of all, the anticipation is so much I've even learned how to read the F*$!??ng Wiki :-)

Keep up the good work and when the ROM comes I'll be in the queue to download - if it doesn't come, maybe I'll try to learn enough to cook my own...

[kyphur]

S#it, that hurt. I laughed so hard I lost my balance and fell out of my chair :D

Welcome to the World Wide Wiki!!!

Believe it or not this is my first Cooked Rom! I could have continued to use it as I got my hands on it but I decided to see if I can get enough out of it to share with the community that has done so much for me as I progressed from a Blue Angel through a Wizard and now to my Hermes. I've done small things in the past (Radio Rom only updaters for the Wizard, Comm Button Vibrate Fix for Hermes) but this has given me a chance to really give back to the community.

Everything I know I learned from the Wiki. Tonight I will write-up a how to and include links to every tool I use as well as posting sample script files.

I'm in the process of designing a GUI to drive the tools but that will take more time away from testing and tweaking this Rom.

I'll be honest, I don't care if everyone likes the applications I chose or whatever. I'm trying to be considerate of the larger group.

I'm going to write-up the how to (wow my first Wiki) and such because I honestly believe the old addage "Give a man a fish and you feed him today, teach him to fish and you've fed him for the rest of his life".

That my effort has inspired someone else to venture down the path of knowledge is the greatest repayment for me.

I'll drink to that... Even without this ROM being released I've learned loads - I can now unlock and flash my phone, make my own extended Rom, hack the registry with impunity (ish :rolleyes: ) but most of all, the anticipation is so much I've even learned how to read the F*$!??ng Wiki :-)

Keep up the good work and when the ROM comes I'll be in the queue to download - if it doesn't come, maybe I'll try to learn enough to cook my own...

[phamoui]

First of all I truly believe and respect Kyphur

Did you guys saw this? It´s a promotional, viral, ARG game of Microsoft


http://elementox360.spaces.live.com/

This guy looks like kyphur!!

[]´s

pH

[kyphur]

Yeah but my robe is covering a great big ole' Budda Belly!!!:p

First of all I truly believe and respect Kyphur
Did you guys saw this? It´s a promotional, viral, ARG game of Microsoft
http://elementox360.spaces.live.com/
This guy looks like kyphur!!
[]´s
pH

[stinger32]

I must agree with mitch345, why release the news so long before the actual drop? I'll hope that nothing happens to it so it will be released soon. I read this thread the first thing when I get up in the morning and then I pop in every half an hour until late night and I then finish the day/night by reading it before I go to bed.

[steverae]

Kyphur..... this will be my last post and check of the forum tonight as the wife has just came back in so it's time to settle down and watch soaps on tv (joy of joys)... i'll check back in tomorrow afternoon (GMT) so we'll see what riches awaits me then...

Again, sorry but what will be the state of the ext_rom, will it be accessible or locked ?

i know i asked this before but mitch345's post got in the way....

[shogunmark]

I must agree with mitch345, why release the news so long before the actual drop? I'll hope that nothing happens to it so it will be released soon. I read this thread the first thing when I get up in the morning and then I pop in every half an hour until late night and I then finish the day/night by reading it before I go to bed.

you should be thanking him for dropping the word before the actual release.. it helps the chef know whether or not people are interested in the project (must of us dont want to waste our time if its not appreciated) and it also helps to get user feedback so that its more of a group project...

[kyphur]

I'll tell you why, because since my divorce 8 years ago I've missed the feeling of someone constantly trying to find fault with everthing I do.

Now that I've painted a big 'ole target on my arse I get to enjoy that down-home hen pecked feeling without have to endure a wallet-ectomy!!!

Just kidding... Some people are getting way to serious about this..:D

I must agree with mitch345, why release the news so long before the actual drop? I'll hope that nothing happens to it so it will be released soon. I read this thread the first thing when I get up in the morning and then I pop in every half an hour until late night and I then finish the day/night by reading it before I go to bed.

[kyphur]

Using HTweakC you can easily unlock your extended Rom if you so wish (just one of the reasons I've embedded this app).

Kyphur..... this will be my last post and check of the forum tonight as the wife has just came back in so it's time to settle down and watch soaps on tv (joy of joys)... i'll check back in tomorrow afternoon (GMT) so we'll see what riches awaits me then...

Again, sorry but what will be the state of the ext_rom, will it be accessible or locked ?

i know i asked this before but mitch345's post got in the way....

[ach2]

For me this is exactly the reason why the news SHOULD be released early... there are lots of 'members' and 'senior members' out there who have seen and done it all before, but for me as a 'junior member' noob this thread has been great. If the rom had just suddenly appeared I'd have just flashed it and learned nothing - but as from my last post, the snippets I've picked up have got me investigating and experimenting. My only concern is that the longer this goes on, the more chance microshaft have of doing something about it...

I must agree with mitch345, why release the news so long before the actual drop? I'll hope that nothing happens to it so it will be released soon. I read this thread the first thing when I get up in the morning and then I pop in every half an hour until late night and I then finish the day/night by reading it before I go to bed.

[robt2379]

Quick question - what languages are included in this rom? Does it include WWE?

[kyphur]

WWE only, I will not venture into the land of Language Packs.

Once released I'm sure that someone will try the WM5 Language packs on it but I can;t say how successful they will be.


Quick question - what languages are included in this rom? Does it include WWE?

[stinger32]

Ok maby your right, But when something like this comes up I'm worse than all the kids the day before christmas. I'm Sorry and continue your good work.

[aeroke]

Quick question - what languages are included in this rom? Does it include WWE?

As far as I understood, WWE would be the only language.
see beginning of this tread.

3 cheers for big K :D

[chymmylt]

Kyphur - You should just announce the release date - Feb, 26 3007 - Then if you should happen to get it out within the next thosand years you'll have all these people praising you for having released it ahead of schedule rather then all these people complaining that you haven't been working hard enough to release what is rightfully theirs and they should have had last week!

I want to thank you for your hard work and wait with eager anticipation for the year 3007!!!

[TaurusBullba]

Kyphur - You should just announce the release date - Feb, 26 3007 - Then if you should happen to get it out within the next thosand years you'll have all these people praising you for having released it ahead of schedule rather then all these people complaining that you haven't been working hard enough to release what is rightfully theirs and they should have had last week!

I want to thank you for your hard work and wait with eager anticipation for the year 3007!!!


.... word.

[ibeqa]

I'm just thinking, do you people know what chef does in the kitchen when hungry people complain about him??????
Think about it!!!

[moutheater]

you could always do the 3dRealms method.

(When It's Done)

[flyboy009]

Kyphur - You should just announce the release date - Feb, 26 3007 - Then if you should happen to get it out within the next thosand years you'll have all these people praising you for having released it ahead of schedule rather then all these people complaining that you haven't been working hard enough to release what is rightfully theirs and they should have had last week!

I want to thank you for your hard work and wait with eager anticipation for the year 3007!!!

Man that will suck, I'll be dead by then! Seriously, calm down people!


Kyphur I am looking forward to your writeup. This stuff is all starting to sink in and I want to take a shot at giving something back to the community.

[Mobilez6600]

Understand that I can not release this Rom without the approval of my source, they need to protect their livelihood. The second I'm given the go ahead, the floodgate with open but until then I simply can't unless I want to burn a good source who put a lot of trust in me.

My primary goal is to get an uncluttered Rom that is useful from the start, think Faria-lite..

If everyone is good and doesn't keep me from getting this done, I will release the scripts that I am using to build & rebuild this rom easily so that each of you can confidently do exactly as I am. I can release the scripts maybe this weekend regardless of the status of the Rom because they are independent of the Rom you are cooking.



Can you give me the scripts to start building & rebuilding of my ROM?
ThanX in advance!!

[mousey_]

Kyphur I am looking forward to your writeup. This stuff is all starting to sink in and I want to take a shot at giving something back to the community.

Me To, It Will Be A Great Insight Into How Things Are Done, And As With Many Of The Wiki Pages Allow Me And Numerous Others To Attempt To Replicate Those Who Have Gone Before Us.

Waiting In Antisipation. Keep Up The Good Work.

Cheers

[TaurusBullba]

I'm just thinking, do you people know what chef does in the kitchen when hungry people complain about him??????
Think about it!!!

I'm thinking... adding a little bit of his own DNA in the recipe?

I, like many, have been following this thread closely. And, no particular offense to anyone, but why must there be those that ask the same questions over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and... well you get my point. I know they must have at least read the first post on the thread and can see that kyphur said to be patient. So, BE PATIENT, PLEASE! Be adults about this.

Maybe it's a a medical problem for some, like ADHD or something. Either way this is being supplied to everyone for free. Other than the chef, no one has anything invested in this, so don't act like you do or that you have some right to pester and bother poor kyphur.

Well, nothing more to say. Just hope most everyone is having fun with this thread and of course, thanks a bunch kyphur for the work and the help and thanks to all your little elves too.

Later

[chymmylt]

Forgive me if my sarchasm detector is faulty, but that post was TOTALLY unnecessary. Pathetic might be a better description.

I wrote this as I appreciate every thing he is doing for us and am annoyed by the people hammering for him to release it - sorry if it did not come across that way

[futureshock]

Hi there...

after reading from beginnen of this thread i reached now the point that i can say i don't know that you are doing ... ;)

what base rom do you exactly use ??? is it a wm6 based or a old hermes (aku 2.x) ?? or the new aku 3.x based??

....

and if someone could be so nice to just reattache the crossbow theme again... link on 1st page wont work any longer...

thx
steve

[cyberdrakula]

Hi there...

after reading from beginnen of this thread i reached now the point that i can say i don't know that you are doing ... ;)

what base rom do you exactly use ??? is it a wm6 based or a old hermes (aku 2.x) ?? or the new aku 3.x based??

....

and if someone could be so nice to just reattache the crossbow theme again... link on 1st page wont work any longer...

thx
steve


IF you looked at this image attached to the thread on the first page from KYPHUR, you would've figured it out.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34445&d=1172183787

[jasjamming]

Hi Kyphur,

Can you please lock this thread until you have official permission to release the ROM.

This thread is now becoming polluted with nonsense and it is quite difficult to sft through all the jargon posted by people who are inconsiderate and impatient.

I, and many others are worried that the plug might be pulled on this project due to the constant nagging.

Best Regards,

[Arktronic]

What we need in this thread right now is a modmin with lots of free time to just start deleting all the posts made by people who are too lazy to read the thread, or even the first freaking post. "What OS" - are you kidding?! This is the XDA-developers forum! If you're so stupid/lazy that you need to ask, of all things, what OS the ROM will have, you don't deserve to be registered here in the first place!! You're the kind of person that caused our FTP problem!


That was not directed at any specific person, just the generic idiot out there. Normally I'm not so mean, but I just had to vent.

kyphur, let me be the XXXXth person to say that you're doing an awesome job and that the vast majority of us here understand completely that looking for and modifying all the possible identifying information in a ROM is a huge, time-sucking, and often extremely tedious job. We wholeheartedly thank you for doing such a thing for free and still putting up with the loudmouths around here.

[shogunmark]

i have a little free time... so lets decide..
do we lock it?
delete stupid questions?
or both?

[Arktronic]

i have a little free time... so lets decide..
do we lock it?
delete stupid questions?
or both?

A quick and dirty solution is obviously locking, but I don't think it's a good one. kyphur has used the thread for suggestions, and sometimes we get valid questions/info posted on here. IMO, a better solution, if you have more than a *little* free time, is to monitor the thread and just keep deleting the stupid posts. But again, I think that requires more than a little free time...

[cyberdrakula]

@ KYPHUR

I did something for the today screen. See if you think it is something you'd like to use. If you want the PSD for it, let me know and I will attach it or send it via email.

I used my WIZARD with WM6 to take this screenshot.

[shogunmark]

im going to lock it for now, and do some clean up through out the night tonight while i flash this and see what else needs work, etc..

Also, us mods are immune to locks, which means that if kyphur or any mod has an update with this then we can still post it here while its locked ;)

[kyphur]

v0.10 hs been released....

See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=295456