Windows Mobile "XDA Live" Edition

[kyphur]

I'm liking Windows Mobile "XDA Live"
as the name in honor of all XDA-Dev has done for us.


I'll be keeping this post updated with progress/news.

Understand that I can not release this Rom without the approval of my source, they need to protect their livelihood. The second I'm given the go ahead, the floodgate with open but until then I simply can't unless I want to burn a good source who put a lot of trust in me.

My primary goal is to get an uncluttered Rom that is useful from the start, think Faria-lite..

If everyone is good and doesn't keep me from getting this done, I will release the scripts that I am using to build & rebuild this rom easily so that each of you can confidently do exactly as I am. I can release the scripts maybe this weekend regardless of the status of the Rom because they are independent of the Rom you are cooking.

Quick FAQ:

Q: Can we get a "Clean" version of the Rom.

A: When released there will be several packages:

"Clean OS" Rom with only HTC-X and Comm Button Toggle Vibrate Fix integrated.
"Hit the Ground Running" Rom with several useful apps embedded (you will be able to disable everything that is embedded) and operator Customizations within easy reach.
Hermes Rom Cookbook, which will include the scripts and tools I am using to do this and instructions on how to apply these to any Hermes Rom.
.nb file only releases for those who want to only swap out the OS ('cause we like our splash screens)Q: Will WMXL (Windows Mobile XDA Live) fix my corrupted radio bootloader or otherwise bricked Hermes?

A: If the other tools here can't do it then don't bet the farm on WMXL doing it. The Flashing tools are still the same, no magic pill here.

Q: Can you Add XXXX or why not use ZZZZ instead of the App you chose.

A: I have been selective of the apps I am embedding. They may not always be the best at what they do but they are easy to use and small. I will not install 5 different apps with the same function. By having one or two apps you will use embedded you will save plenty of Program Memory to be able to comfortably install the Task Manager, MP3 player or Coffee Temp Monitor of your liking.

Q: Kyphur you are such a Guru, how can I be like you?

A: Remember that my head is in the clouds on this one only because I'm standing on the shoulders' of giants. This project owes it's very existence to many other contributers here and they deserve as much if not more of the cudos than I do. The is a team effort, please support everyone who made this possible. (See my post here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1143020&postcount=10)). I have been a member her for only 15 months give or take but I have spent more time reading than doing or posting.

Q: If you embed a program into the Rom how can I remove it (to save memory).

A: You can't remove file that are in the Rom. You can remove the Shortcuts to the programs. Again I will repeat that programs in the Rom do not consume any memory. If you don't want the program simply ignore it and it will not harm you.

Q: I have more questions...

A: Read the thread.

Current Status:

I have removed the list ofToday (.tsk) Themes for this Rom. Click here for Images (http://WM6.Kyphur.Org/Today%20Themes.asp) of all the Themes I have collected. I've decided that instead of embedding them all, I will remove all but the default Crossbow Theme and maybe create a custom WMXL (Windows Mobile XDA Live) Theme.

The rest of the collection will be packaged together so everyne can pick and choose their themes. If we figure out how to create a custom Ext_Rom.nd then I will put them there along with Carrier Data & MMS Settings.

I have integrated the following Applications:

Dictionary Editor
HTweakC v2.1
MS Hearts for PPC
PHM Registry Editor ** Will not be replaced by Total Commander...
SMS Backup
StartClean
VJCandelaLite (Flashlight)I know everyone has their own list of apps they'd like to see but I have chosed these because they are small, simple to use and ADD functionality to the Rom.

I have integrated the following Registry Fixes:

By default only the Date Plugin is enabled (and it is set to a single line).
The Today Screen says "XDA Live" and the about screen shows " - XDA" after the OS Build Number.
Pressing & Holding the Comm Button toggles the between Vibrate & Normal.
PDAViet Memory Leak Fix is Applied.
Disabled the warning for Unsigned Applications (Application Lock)Misc:

I have added two "Classic RingTones, (OldPhone-US.wma and OldPhone-UK.wav) for those of us who want to get away from the music and chirping Ringers.
I have removed all carrier customizations, no need to soft reset to avoid customization!Current Known Issues:

The only real issue is that I am bound by a promise to my source to not distribute this Rom until the Carrier releases it or I can get ALL IDENTIFYING INFORMATION removed from it. trust me, I am working on it but there is absolutely no room for errors. Ironically the Rom seems more stable since I've modified it than it was when I received it.Goals to work on:

Embed TCPMP v0.71RC and Codex Files.Dropped or moved to low priority:

Voice Command Abandoned... It was proving too troublesome and there are too many reasons (language and dialing rule differences) to not embed it.

Dropped embedding a replacement Calculator, two many personal preferences, they are all lightweight and we can each add our fav later.As for adjusting how the memory is used, if someone knows how to do that I'm all ears but if it requires shifting things in the image and hex editing it then I think we might hit the NAND Block Issue again.

BTW, this truly is a group effort.

Without pof & team unlocking I never would have even gone looking for the base Rom.
aChef by aklok_hk is doing the heavy lifting.
Sleuth, ShogunMark, Faria ViJay555, Bepe, Maimach have all been instrumental either directly or indirectly in this project.
Des and the SSPL was another step that got me to this point.
Of course there are all of the guys who have been doing this before I bought my first PPC Phone, they blazed the trail I simply walk behind them.
Finally, I can't forget my unnamed source. They took a big change passing this along to me. Without that trust I'd be cooking AKU 3.3 right now.

[kyphur]

Hmm, but what you need these themes for? I guess it would be cool if there was no unnecessary stuff you can always download later.

Today themes are small, I would like to include the HTC Standard as well as Carrier Themes for at least the major carriers just as a way to allow us to brand this Rom without having to use any of our storage memory.

Initial Rom will not have any added apps, just clean & stable though I might embed The Hermes Tweaker.

[finch]

This will be great. I am all for a minimal clean rom. No Addons just crossbow. HTC is fine for me. Just my opinion.

Can't wait.

Thanks

[mixmaven]

Give it a code name...something cool like L-Cars 8525!!!!

mother_of_all_Hermes_roms.rar???

I think you should post with a boot screen dedicated to the legal department @ M$.

-mix

[kyphur]

First I will confirm that this IS NOT an AKU 3.3 Rom. :D

I have successfully removed most of the identifying info that could lead back to my source (I believe).

Now I'm adding a few things back in like the Press & Hold Comm button for Vibrate Toggle Fix, Today Themes for Carriers and my favorite Ringtone (OldPhone.wma).

I am waiting for a response from my source regarding the info I've cleaned out (I want their approval before I share as I don't want to burn my source).

I hope that this will all happen in less than 1 week.

[dutty]

First I will confirm that this IS NOT an AKU 3.3 Rom. :D

I have successfully removed most of the identifying info that could lead back to my source (I believe).

now you got me interested :)

[mixmaven]

How about "XDA-Lives" WMx Rom!!!!

About 10 minutes in photoshop and a few pictures from google.... a start on a boot screen. :)

-mix

[TaurusBullba]

About 10 minutes in photoshop and a few pictures from google.... a start on a boot screen. :)

-mix


AHHH! But aren't we getting ahead of ourselves? I see you have WM6 on that pic. What if he's acutally ported Linux to it? Uhhh... wait a second, nevermind.

[hellejoep]

Nice, I suspect this will be a BIG relase, nice work!

[strikeIII]

now that people are cooking up some ROMs now, maybe someone can make seperate .cab files for different carriers with all the data settings in it so we can load our internet settings right away after we install cooked ROMs...

[mrvanx]

A good thing to add to the ExtROM COULD be a feature i noticed on an early iMate rom i used on my hermes. When it was going ahead with the "customisation..." screen it would ask what carrier you are on?! Then IT would apply the appropriate GPRS/MMS settings?!

May be just laziness on my part but would be a COOL feature.

[trion]

A good thing to add to the ExtROM COULD be a feature i noticed on an early iMate rom i used on my hermes. When it was going ahead with the "customisation..." screen it would ask what carrier you are on?! Then IT would apply the appropriate GPRS/MMS settings?!

May be just laziness on my part but would be a COOL feature.

I'm at work now, but from the dutch Qtek site www.qtek.nl you can download a cab file with all the settings from the dutch telecom providers.

If you can't find it I can upload it when I get home tonight.

[mrvanx]

Would be good If we could collect all the Operator cabs and maybe put them on the ftp?

Probably better than clogging up a ROM with them!?

(LOL il get to work TRYING to track down the O2 one)

[dutty]

Here's Imate and Telstra .tsk, if still needed. Thanks for your great work!

here's the dopod 838 pro .tsk

Does the new os actually close programs or still leave them open when you tap the x-button? If so, what about adding HTC_X-Button.cab?

People can always turn it off if they don't want it.

I also load the two tools below, I think just about everyone uses psshutxp and dictionary editor allows you to get rid of those annoying words you misspell and your phone remembers.... They are all pretty small, but extremely useful.


-mix

here goes the official o2 germany tsk file and the o2 germany internet-flatrate wap settings plus the o2 germany mms settings.

if you need a quicktool that can select what to install i can whip that up in c real quick ;)

oli, i wouldnt cook the gps driver just yet.. we need to play with it on wm6.0 to see if its ok..

[jammerlappen]

question besides:

is it necessary to implement vc? especially if the us version isn`t able to deal with with commands in other languages!
anyway, sounds awesome!!!

[kyphur]

Are you installing apps via ExtRom? I'd suggest against having the apps installed as part of the base rom, some of these apps get updated on a fairly regular basis......

As you can see, my list of imbedded apps is intentionally short:

1-Calc Lite (replaced Calculator Shortcut in Start Menu)
HTweakC v2.1
PHM Registry Editor
SMS Backup
StartClean
Microsoft Voice Command v1.6 (US)

HTweakC might see some updates but that would be easy to install the new version over and only loose would be the benefit of saving storage Rom.

By embedding these into the Rom we save several Megs of Storage RAM.

Okay, I'll also confirm this is WM6:eek:

Also, added Telsta.tsk, i-mate Grass.tsk, i-mate Swoosh.tsk.

I will not be adding other apps to this Rom. If someone wants to gather carrier Data Connections Cabfiles I would be happy to embedd them directly into the Rom (these settings seldom change).

I think I will add the 8525 eyboard Fix Cab file (but not install it) into the Rom.

Currently working on an XML error in the section of code that would place Voice Command into the Rom.

The other apps are all considered stable versions.

[kyphur]

question besides:

is it necessary to implement vc? especially if the us version isn`t able to deal with with commands in other languages!
anyway, sounds awesome!!!


Once I have it in good I can easily generate a parallel Rom without it (I am writing scripts to run the tools which build the Rom so skipping sections is trivial.

[kyphur]

I myself don't need PHM Registry Editor since I'm using Total Commander with its integrated registry editor plugin, which I find easier to navigate the registry. And I don't need yet-another-way-too-simple-calculator and would prefer a scientific one with RPN (I always hit the wrong keys on non-RPN-calculators ;) ), like RayRPN.

But if having his preferences on the device is the price to pay for using this "very special rom"... well, as long as we're able to hide them from the start menu/programs menu, I'll gladly pay it ;)

You can delete the shortcuts for anthing you don't like.

Personally I use Resco for Registry & File operations but PHM is simply and requires not install so you have Registry Editing out of the box.

I'll look at RayRPN, I just hate the stupid PPC Calc (still same as the old CE Calc). I love the tip calculator and unit conversion functions of 1-calc.

Again once the integration is done, I can easily generate a 100% plain Rom with no carrier tsk files, images or settings. I figue I'll make use of the time while I wait for approval to release....

[kyphur]

WOW - it's realy WM6?? :eek:

When will you upload it?

Please, if you read the thread you will see that I am waiting for my source to approve the Rom (to be sure I have removed everything that could trace it back even close to them - got to protect the source).

I am hoping to have it out in days (no more than 1 week).

[vador]

Please, if you read the thread you will see that I am waiting for my source to approve the Rom (to be sure I have removed everything that could trace it back even close to them - got to protect the source).

I am hoping to have it out in days (no more than 1 week).

Hi kyphur,

I think you can consider to put in the rom the ext rom unhide! :D

[apokryphus]

Indeed if given the okay today I would release it without the "finishing touches" along with a completely clean WM6 Rom.

Okay, i did not know that fact.
Excuse me, i thought there are relations to build up the ultimate rom(with vc and so on) and the "okay" from your "rom-provider".

Now it is clear, thanks.
Big Up for your work!

[piopawlu]

Can't wait to get it ;) I hope your source will be safe, cuz that might be useful in future ;)

OT: It would be great to change the memory map, so that we have no ext-rom and the space saved in OS/EXT becomes storage ;)

[clinteastman]

BIG props to kyphur. Not for coming up with this potential WM6 cooked ROM, but for protecting his source. A lot of people don't go as far these days. If his source told him to not release it, I can see that he wouldn't.

It might disappoint people, but that's being a real stand up guy!

I personly total agree with this.

kyphur you are a gent!

[kyphur]

Does the new os actually close programs or still leave them open when you tap the x-button? If so, what about adding HTC_X-Button.cab?

People can always turn it off if they don't want it.

I also load the two tools below, I think just about everyone uses psshutxp and dictionary editor allows you to get rid of those annoying words you misspell and your phone remembers.... They are all pretty small, but extremely useful.


-mix

HTC X-Button is already in the Rom (before I started playing with it).

Dictionary Editor Is a good one, I'll add it.

psShutXP, Not really sure about. I mean there are already ways to shut down and soft reset so all it really adds is a cool gui for it.

Please remember my primary goal is to get an uncluttered Rom that is useful from the start, think Faria-lite..

Looks like MS Voice Command is fighting with me, this Rom is Big already so I mught just be hitting the wall.

As for adjusting how the memory is used, if someone knows how to do that I'm all ears but if it requires shifting things in the image and hex editing it then I think we might hit the NAND Block Issue again.

BTW, this truly is a group effort.

Without pof & team unlocking I never would have even gone looking for the base Rom.
aChef by aklok_hk is doing the heavy lifting.
Des and the SSPL was another step that got me to this point.
Of course there are all of the guys who have been doing this before I bought my first PPC Phone, they blazed the trail I simply walk behind them.
Finally, I can't forget my unnamed source. They took a big change passing this along to me. Without that trust I'd be cooking AKU 3.3 right now.Keep the today themes (.tsk files) coming.

[kyphur]

At this point I think it is too early to call it on the GPS, certainly something that can be added down the road.

Don't worry about availability, rapidshare, torrents, etc it will be made available.


Is there any point, and is it possible, to include the GPS driver built in? If it interferes with anything else, or requires the GPS enabled radio, or is unstable then obviously it has no place in this ROM, but otherwise could be a useful addition if it ever becomes straightforward to enable GPS on our Hermes.

Really looking forward to this release.. would it be possible for someone to host it on FTP or upload it to fileshare or something, as I am on university campus and they have blocked all the torrent ports, thanks.

Cheers kyphur!

[kyphur]

Embedded apps saves you memory as the Rom image is a set size so everything included there does not effect available memory. If you stop using something simply move or delete the shortcut (or ignore it).

Now for performance, first let me say that I know the video on Hermes dogs when compared to my old Wizard so it is hard to say. But the audio is great (IMO) and for my day to day tasks is is running stable. I'd gotten into the habit of reseting every night (after back-up) but haven't down that as often lately and it seems to not take the hit my Wizard would have.

This is huge! The aniticpation is killing me!

I'm really new to the whole embedded apps vs installed apps issue. All the ones you have chosen are apps I use and if that means more leftover memory for me that I'm all for it. But I still like the ability to pick and choose, even if I like a program I don't always keep it so less is more in my opinion. But I just want to see this thing in action!

Kyphur, any initial thoughts on this rom? Speed, looks, new features?
I don't know whether to be skeptical or piss my pants!

[mixmaven]

One thought is what molski does in his wizard roms, create a directory under my documents called installers that contains a few cab files that most of us use, resco programs, spb programs, etc. All of the programs as I remember still need a valid serial, so you aren't giving them away, just making it easier. That would be a good place for carrier settings and psshut as well. Then if you hard reset, you can at least install the stuff you are used to. What do you think?

My short list would be:

resco explorer
resco keyboard (integrated calc!)
spb backup
spb pocket plus
tcpmp.72rc
total commander
some themes

Thanks again for all of the hard work going into this...

-mix

[liva]

Embedded apps saves you memory as the Rom image is a set size so everything included there does not effect available memory. If you stop using something simply move or delete the shortcut (or ignore it).

Now for performance, first let me say that I know the video on Hermes dogs when compared to my old Wizard so it is hard to say. But the audio is great (IMO) and for my day to day tasks is is running stable. I'd gotten into the habit of reseting every night (after back-up) but haven't down that as often lately and it seems to not take the hit my Wizard would have.

Hi kyphur, thanks for it,
My question is that, i 'm sure that this rom is in english, so , Is what it is possible to have the Rom in French, or a language pack;
Of corse ,after you finished it

[Heimiko]

Also something really worthy to be included, the hack to make the registry persistant on soft reset (always one of the first hack's I apply to a fresh install)

I don't know how or where this is done, as I do this with Tweaks2K2, so someone else will have to fill this in.... anyone?

[kyphur]

mind if I ask; what base ROM are you editing to create this?


All I can say at this point in time is that this is a Real WM6 Rom for the Hermes. All drivers are WM6 native, I have not had to add anything to the core OS.

[kyphur]

Hi kyphur, thanks for it,
My question is that, i ' sure that this rom is in english, so , Is what it is possible to have the Rom in French, or a language pack;
Of corse ,after you finished it

I don't do language packs but I don't see why someone wouldn't be able to do this.

[richy240]

All I can say at this point in time is that this is a Real WM6 Rom for the Hermes. All drivers are WM6 native, I have not had to add anything to the core OS.

Holy crap, this is awesome.

[kyphur]

Guys,

Please note that I will be keeping the OP updated with the status of this Rom.

Also, I have to get some work done today so I'll be off the board for a while but I will update if warrented or I get release approval.

[kyphur]

I have just been ontop of all the wm6 posts, which have either been flamed, or not even really responded to, and now that someone actually has wm6, people are askin to add shit and have it their way, just stfu and wait for the ROM.

Just a little more patience, with the tools that have come down the pipe in the last 2 weeks everyone here will be able to take the "Clean" Version of this Rom and make it their own little custom WM6. Scripting is great, I'm simply using a dos batch file to run the aChef tool & imgfs tools. This allows me to work on my list edit the batch file and re-generate the .nb file without getting carpal tunnel!

[.VIBE]

Guys,

Please note that I will be keeping the OP updated with the status of this Rom.

Also, I have to get some work done today so I'll be off the board for a while but I will update if warranted or I get release approval.

Call in sick for coupla days, it'll be okay, really :D

BOT, are there any further specific requirements you have? can we help? Do you have all the .tsk files you need? Remember, you the man, so let us know.

[liva]

I don't do language packs but I don't see why someone wouldn't be able to do this.
Will Ok, thank you, I try to find that. is what you know Radio B L 0108???

[kyphur]

Call in sick for coupla days, it'll be okay, really :D

BOT, are there any further specific requirements you have? can we help? Do you have all the .tsk files you need? Remember, you the man, so let us know.

The list in the first post is being updated, if you have an operator .tsk file that isn't listed please attack it to a reply in this thread.

[mousey_]

I've Got The Instructions To Create The Orange UK Connections I Was Just Wondering Of Someone Who Still Has The Orange ROM Install Could Extract The CAB File That Installs The Connections And Upload It Here As That Would Be A Great Addition To This And Any ROM.

Cheers

[ZaJules]

kyphur thanks for this mate its going to be awesome to see WM6 again (I loved it my Wizard)

As for the M$ Voice Command 1.6

It came with the WM6 for the wizard but needed to be re installed from the retail cab file in order to get the headset button to activate.
Also the default install path on the pre installed version differs to the install path of retail version. Maybe there is a clue there somewhere as to your troubles. Might be possible to extract those bits from the wizards WM6 rom.


This is sweet. The main reservation with my upgrade to the Hermes was the lack of roms and the lack of WM6. Now I have only had my Hermes for a week and all the good stuff is happening, Its like Xmas in Feb!!!


Kyphur you are a legend!

Jules

[.VIBE]

When this is ready to go will this be like a normal upgrade or will we need some knowledge and skills using btl 1.01?

Yeah, let's not bother the man with that type of question. All these type of questions will follow naturally once the file is released. but as ccr-dude said, it will probably an easy one to flash.

[ratcom]

Great improvements!! :D

I include the dutch t-mobile tsk files including the background etc.
I dont know if the t-mobile tsk files from other country's are different. If not then delete it... i saw in early posts that t-mobile tsk file already included!

Hi here are the Operator cabs for South Africa if needed.
They are for
Vodacom
MTN
CellC
and Virgin


Jules

Hi kyphur,

Great work, i attached a cab with all the Setings(sms/mms/internet/today), for VF PT. if you w'd like to use.

Following the some suggestions allready made.
- New Menu
- Clear Temp(great tool and free)
- SPB MOBILE Shell
Just added.. PortalPPC_PT CAB, it just installs:
* OrtoGrafPT
* AutoCompletePT
* RegSetPT

Just waiting...........

OMG Crossbow for my new(ish) hermes GREAT! I was also missing crossbow after using it on my wizard for the last month..... but now I have something to look forward to ;)


Oh how about a video player i.e. "betaplayer" as its very useful and easy to cook into a rom ;) Ive enclosed the version Ive been using.......

[sub69]

omg, quit with the f'n "add this" "add that", go buy a f'n memory card and install all the shit you want, beggars can't be choosers....

I'm totally with you on this one, but kyphur's already said he intends to come up with a 'vanilla' version too, so for all I care he can add every freeware program ever made into the 'other' ROM.

In the meantime, fingers crossed for some good news. And even if this comes to nothing, it's encouraging to hear that a Hermes Crossbow ROM is out. Makes it fairly likely that XDA-Devs will get their hands on it eventually.

[kyphur]

Jules,

Can you get me the .tsk files (today Themes) for these operators?

Hi here are the Operator cabs for South Africa if needed.
They are for
Vodacom
MTN
CellC
and Virgin


Jules

[kyphur]

kyphur, thanks a lot for doing what you're doing. And you have my greatest respect for not even considering cheating on your unnamed source.

Will video telephony be supported by your ROM? On my O2 Trion I had to install one or two cabs from the Extended ROM before the "Video" button appeared in the dialer. If these cabs are still needed, would you consider including them?

Thanks again,
Daniel

Can't say for sure, if you provide the cab files I'll look and see if their contents are already there.

I have an 8525 so I'm lacking that function.

[kyphur]

No PTT but we can easily add it via a cab file for those who want it.

Personally I use that button for 2 things:

Press - Voice Command
Press & Hold - VJCandela

BTW, does anyone else use VJCandela? I wouldn't mind adding it.

Kyphur... will you be omitting the PTT functions of the 8525 since thats carrier specific (I have no use for the feature since no one I know uses it, but i am sure some would) I was thinking of remapping the key for some higher purpose :)

[kyphur]

WM6 only supports Internet Connection Sharing, No more Wireless Modem.

Connectivity options are BT-PAN or USB Cable.

BTW, check the first Post, I think we have a name!!


my question is the usefull tool that came with the latest cingular rom the internet connection sharing app. Will that be on this new rom? or something similar. Thanks for your hard work.

JM

[kyphur]

I think I'll stick to .tsk file from the Carriers or that are otherwise provided as defaults either by MS or HTC.

Here is a Silver .tsk witch looks good with the front of the tytn.

It's from SPB, but can be free downloaded from their website. Along with some others, I don't have here.

[omega2008]

How about including the DST .cab file for the DST changes here in the USA and Canada?WM6 already has DST fix.
Ahhh ok thanks for that I was not aware of that.

[sunlip]

Excuse me guys ,slightly off topic.

Could it possible to flash 'XDA Live' ROM onto a bricked Hermes with bootloader 1.09, corrupted CID and radio which stucked on AKU3.3 Windows Mobile screen ? Tried all wiki and PB KITL, getting no where.

hoping for miracle before I send it to the service center ......

[richy240]

Excuse me guys ,slightly off topic.

Could it possible to flash 'XDA Live' ROM onto a bricked Hermes with bootloader 1.09, corrupted CID and radio ?

You could always just try it upon release...

[pinkopalino]

now that people are cooking up some ROMs now, maybe someone can make seperate .cab files for different carriers with all the data settings in it so we can load our internet settings right away after we install cooked ROMs...
Most of those settings cabs can be found here in one place:
http://www.htcclub.net/en/settings.php

[phamoui]

Is this "XDA LIVE" Rom available yet? I can offer my ftp server here in Brazil to host the files! I don´t have any carrier cabs of TIm Brazil and claro,

[fun_key]

Woaw!

This is a great work; standing ovation for you! I eagerly await to see how it looks on my device ;)

[richy240]

The anticipation is killing me! AHHH!

[jompao]

I find this very usefull.

It fixes the sms delivery receipt, so it show the name of your contact instead of the number.

Two TSKs. on is greenish DoCoMo Koyo.tsk theme and another is plain wonderful TransOrb.tsk

Including operatorsettings for 3 in Sweden and settings for Nordic keyboard.

Hi kyphur,

I posted about this earlier today, and you already answered, but it seems these posts disappeared. :confused:

Anyway, it'd be great if the ROM you're cooking included Video Telephony and Smart Dialing. These features are installed on WM5 with the attached .cab from the Extended ROM. It seems the cab only changes registry settings, nothing more (I hope I didn't miss anything). It is from a generic HTC ExtROM, so it's not vendor specific. But of course I have no idea if it'll work on WM6.

Cheers
Daniel

[jompao]

Souds sweet, really lokking forward to it!


Thanks for all geat work!

[belinea]

A "XDA Live Light" would be nice. No memory wasting extras on the ROM. Only pure WM6.

[pvenkat]

It would be very useful to include Total Commander in the rom build unless the stock File Manager is vastly improved. It is the first thing I usually install after any hard reset. It is not a big deal if you can't accomodate my request I can always install from a cab file.

Thanks for all your efforts.

[ReinerK]

BTW, does anyone else use VJCandela? I wouldn't mind adding it.
YEs, yes, yes, pleeeeeeease add it.

And, as some other peaople already said, a WM6-Lite Version with pure OS would be nice.

[kyphur]

I might replace PHM RegEdit with TotalCommander but I won't include both.

VOTE NOW!!!!

It would be very useful to include Total Commander in the rom build unless the stock File Manager is vastly improved. It is the first thing I usually install after any hard reset. It is not a big deal if you can't accomodate my request I can always install from a cab file.

Thanks for all your efforts.

[Olipro]

I might replace PHM RegEdit with TotalCommander but I won't include both.

VOTE NOW!!!!

PHM isn't *that* big!

[TaurusBullba]

I might replace PHM RegEdit with TotalCommander but I won't include both.

VOTE NOW!!!!

My vote is for PHM RegEdit. It takes up no space and is a good minimalistic utility. TC, on the other hand can be installed later if wanted. I think since some like TC and other like Resco, maybe a happy medium is something more basic like PHM.

That's just me though.

Oh yeah... THANKS KYPHUR!!!!!!!

[Arktronic]

Has the WM6 file manager been "vastly improved" as per pvenkat's post?

[ReinerK]

[X] RegEdit
[ ] TotoalC.

[guapinoy]

PHM !!! :D

[shamus]

I vote for TC it's more usefull than PHM which I don't use at all

[richy240]

PHM, please.

[tbern123]

PHM please

[kyphur]

Has the WM6 file manager been "vastly improved" as per pvenkat's post?

It has a new icon! So the answer is "No"..

Personally I picked PHM because it simply adds functionality that is not built-in to WM. Everyone seems to have a favorite File Manager (I use RESCO with the Registry Plug-In) but it is nice to have that function available right from the start (pun intended).

Remember things included in the Rom Image don't cost you any memory (unless you load and run them).

Finally, don't forget that with any luck within the next couple of weeks many of you will be brewing up your own Personalized Roms which means that WMXL will end-up being for those who simply don't want to undertake the task of doing it themself.

[liva]

I vote TC too :-)

[ibeqa]

PHM even though I have a resco regedit

[mixmaven]

PHM, even though I use resco as well.

-mix

[Arktronic]

PHM I guess... also I vote for the "lite" version.

[ReinerK]

Will all progs you add be listed in the software-remove-list? Or will it not be possible to remove them?

[flyboy009]

I would think most of us would use a file explorer more than a reg edit program. I vote for TC.

[chicosalgueiro]

Here are the operator settings for Swedish Telia, Tele2 and Vodafone. Separate cabs for each operator.

one more....

-mix

Here is the TMN Portugal carrier tsk file.

Thanks for your (and your team) great effort, really appreciated
Francisco

[The Lazy Slug]

PHM gets my vote. (Although I normally use Resco, I would find having a registry editor handy for those initial tweaks.)

[saq]

One strong suggestion is to include a couple of registry files for different keyboard layouts (ie 8525 vs regular Tytn)

Also, I can't wait for this ROM to come out!

[kyphur]

Thanks, I like it...

one more....

-mix

[kyphur]

If I can't squeeze them into the OS Rom then I will at least have them readily available. Too bad we can't cook ExtRom yet! (unless I missed that meeting)

One strong suggestion is to include a couple of registry files for different keyboard layouts (ie 8525 vs regular Tytn)

Also, I can't wait for this ROM to come out!

[richy240]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I am hanging on kyphur's every word for info on the release. "I'm freakin' out, man!"

[Arktronic]

How's the Bluetooth working in this ROM? Is it the MS stack? How is A2DP quality? (What I'm getting at is whether it would be a good idea - if it's even possible - to install the Widcomm stack)

[ibeqa]

Quote: Patience is a virtue

[rkorzuch]

Is this ROM based on Windows Mobile 6 or some other ROM? If it is Windows Mobile 6 then isn't Microsoft Voice Command already part of the OS?

[TaurusBullba]

one more....

-mix

Nice job mixmaven! I like that one a lot.

[richy240]

Quote: Patience is a virtue

Yeah, yeah, I know. But I'm just so damn excited!

[ibeqa]

Is this ROM based on Windows Mobile 6 or some other ROM? If it is Windows Mobile 6 then isn't Microsoft Voice Command already part of the OS?

When you read the newspapers - do you start from the middle of the pages???
Read the thread from page one

[stinger32]

Kyphur--> I know this isnt the section for this question BUT Is it possible that your source also have a WM6-Rom for Trinity?

[rkorzuch]

When you read the newspapers - do you start from the middle of the pages???
Read the thread from page one

my bad. I must have missed page 4.

[trion]

How's the Bluetooth working in this ROM? Is it the MS stack? How is A2DP quality? (What I'm getting at is whether it would be a good idea - if it's even possible - to install the Widcomm stack)

Unless the BT stack in WM6 is a lot better then the one we have in in AKU 3.3 I also vote for the widcomm stack.

It can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1072773&postcount=72

[chymmylt]

No PTT but we can easily add it via a cab file for those who want it.

Personally I use that button for 2 things:

Press - Voice Command
Press & Hold - VJCandela

BTW, does anyone else use VJCandela? I wouldn't mind adding it.

I may be the only person that actually uses the push and hold for voice recorder - I'm a musician and it's very helpful when inspiration hits, what can I say - but does this leave the ability to maintain that functionality or are you removing that functionality like Cingular did with PTT and replacing it with VJCandela?

Excited and looking forward to your hardwork! Thanks!

[richy240]

I may be the only person that actually uses the push and hold for voice recorder - I'm a musician and it's very helpful when inspiration hits, what can I say - but does this leave the ability to maintain that functionality or are you removing that functionality like Cingular did with PTT and replacing it with VJCandela?

Excited and looking forward to your hardwork! Thanks!

I normally use this as well, but I have yet to get it working on the new Cingular 2.06 ROM, with the PTT fix applied.

[mixmaven]

Thanks, I like it...

Thanks, if you or anyone has time to post the orig crossbow tsk, I can create something similar. I don't really want to start from scratch.

-mix

[richy240]

Wouldn't that be included with the ROM itself? Or am I missing something here?

[kyphur]

Not replacing anything, you would simply have the ability to assign the Press / Press & Hold to shortcuts like any other button!

I may be the only person that actually uses the push and hold for voice recorder - I'm a musician and it's very helpful when inspiration hits, what can I say - but does this leave the ability to maintain that functionality or are you removing that functionality like Cingular did with PTT and replacing it with VJCandela?

[kyphur]

I know the Wizard WM6 Rom has Voice Command 1.6 integrated but this one does not. Instead it has Cyberon Voice Dialer (which is the neutered version of Cyberon Voice Commander). I have removed all traces of Cyberon but can't seem to get MS VC to play nice with it.

Is this ROM based on Windows Mobile 6 or some other ROM? If it is Windows Mobile 6 then isn't Microsoft Voice Command already part of the OS?

[mixmaven]

Wouldn't that be included with the ROM itself? Or am I missing something here?


I don't know if your message was directed at me, but I was offering to make an XDA Live tsk for the rom... not necessary, but it is nice to give a little cedit to where the rom was cooked. I am sure it will get posted around the world once it is released. There are plenty of smart people over here like kyphur that deserve credit.

-mix

[Shamanix]

Is XDA-Live based on the WM6 final RTM version ?

Btw.. Great job guys :cool:

[richy240]

I don't know if your message was directed at me, but I was offering to make an XDA Live tsk for the rom... not necessary, but it is nice to give a little cedit to where the rom was cooked. I am sure it will get posted around the world once it is released. There are plenty of smart people over here like kyphur that deserve credit.

-mix

Yes, directed at you, sorry. But yeah, I saw a screen shot of the edited default WM6 theme in the first post in this thread. Is that what you're talking about?

[TaurusBullba]

I don't know if I'm the only one noticing this, but it looks like a bunch of the posts keep going missing in this thread today. :eek:

Am I wrong?

[kyphur]

I got word today that the Carrier is planning to release this Rom (I don't have a date). Our worst case is that I can't release until the day they do. I'm working to avoid that my trying to strip-out all of the version info I can.

Can anyone guess how much work I completed at the office today?:D

BTW, check out the first page for new images of this Rom!!!!!


Is XDA-Live based on the WM6 final RTM version ?

Btw.. Great job guys :cool:

[kyphur]

I'm cleaning house, trying to keep the chatter out and the good ideas etc accessible. I've also consolidated the posts where you guys are providing my files.

I don't know if I'm the only one noticing this, but it looks like a bunch of the posts keep going missing in this thread today. :eek:

Am I wrong?

[mixmaven]

Yes, directed at you, sorry. But yeah, I saw a screen shot of the edited default WM6 theme in the first post in this thread. Is that what you're talking about?

If kyphur wants a different XDA Live crossbow theme to include in the release, I can make one. so yes.


@kyphur, those new screen shots are sweet! That looks great. I hope we don't have to wait on this until a carrier releases it.

-mix

... and you can delete these posts to clear up chatter if you want.

[TaurusBullba]

I'm cleaning house, trying to keep the chatter out and the good ideas etc accessible. I've also consolidated the posts where you guys are providing my files.

Makes good sense. Oh, I checked out the first page and like the images... very nice.

(delete this post, if so inclined)

[TaurusBullba]

I noticed on the first page you mentioned giving up on VC 1.6. What kind of issue(s) are you having with it working? Is it the same issue we've all had running it on the hermes, or something entirely different?

[walshieau]

this development looks awesome... happy to beta test if required...

[the_passenger]

man, I'm excited already. I'm waiting for the release. Hopefully soon enough, I'll be able to cook my own, clean WM6 ROM, if I dont want some of the stuffs you included.

Cheers.

[ibeqa]

Considering if I should Embed TCPMP and all Codexs.

Please, TCPMP is better than WMP

Cheers

[ibeqa]

Kyphur,
Can you make this thread sticky?
Cheers

[GliTCH82]

Considering if I should Embed TCPMP and all Codexs.

Please, TCPMP is better than WMP

Cheers


Does TCPMP supports ATI Imageon ?

Yes it does

Does TCPMP supports ATI Imageon ?

It seems no.
I just found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1136054

The is a simple setting to click and the video jitter issue goes away...

[Des]

As for adjusting how the memory is used, if someone knows how to do that I'm all ears but if it requires shifting things in the image and hex editing it then I think we might hit the NAND Block Issue again.I do not know what aChef tool actualy do (and never tried it - i have no jvm installed due to an java allergy) so I can't say if you can get bb's with it. But nand bad blocks issue by itself is rather straightforward: OS "disk" image contained in nbh is not a plain image of os disk. Just a bit of theory:
Nand flash (unlike nor) can be manufactured with bad blocks.
Physical size of nand page slightly differs from logical one: there some extra bytes commonly used for error detection (this is not hardcoded but a common practice of usage). In case of samsung nand used in hermes/trinity/breeze physical page size is 528 bytes (wich gives 16 extra bytes to 512 logical page).
After post-production test samsung marks bad blocks with setting 517th byte on the block pages to non 0xFF.
So when bootloader (or driver) see anything other then 0xFF in 517 byte it automaticaly count block as bad.
As I've mentioned above OS image in shipped updates is not a plain "logical" image. Each 512 bytes page have additional 8 bytes of service data wich is flashed to nand (remaining 8 technical bytes are belived to be used for ecc and they are not included in shipped image). These additional bytes contain block number some flags and disastrous 517th byte (setted to 0xFF of course).
So if you'll try to cook a raw os image from shipped update... At first step cooking utilities would work on garbage 'cause they treat additional service bytes as ordinary ones. And on some pages 517 would be overwritten with non 0xFF by the same token. So from one side you get broken imgfs image and (wich is far more worse) virtually all blocks altered by cooking process marked as bad. Result of flashing such cooked rom to device is well (and sadly) known.

So to cook good rom you need to remove service bytes from os image first. Cook rom (mamaich's imgfstools do perform well). And after that append service bytes again.
Last step is bit unclear 'cause format of service block is not fully known. For inited pages it seems to contain page number in bytes 0-3 0xFF in byte 5 (wich is 517 on the page) and some flags in 4,6,7 bytes (wich most probably tag partition and/or fs region for bl). For uninited pages service block consist of all 0xFF. It looks like correct setting of these flags is unnecessary for flashing (cooked roms with totally wrong service blocks were flashed in to nand succesfuly) but may take some role in formatting storage for example. One technique (wich probably would produce good service blocks) for making correct service blocks without discovering their exact format is not create them from scratch but take those containd in original raw image.

ps:
I figured this issue with extra technical bytes per page while trying to extract some modules from shipped rom and have not tested cooking and flasing cooked rom. But at least it is 99.9% guranted that while you keep 517 byte on each [520 bytes] page = 0xFF you would not face bad block problem with cooked rom

[kyphur]

I noticed on the first page you mentioned giving up on VC 1.6. What kind of issue(s) are you having with it working? Is it the same issue we've all had running it on the hermes, or something entirely different?

I've got all of the files and registry setting in but it causes errors on boot and the last time it killed ActiveSync.

I figure if I'm getting enough little goodies in then the size of VC isn't that bad. Not to mention the whole "US English/UK English" and other language/dialing rules for different countries localization issues maybe it's just better to leave that one where it is.

[aquasesh]

The is a simple setting to click and the video jitter issue goes away...


Doesnt officially support Imageon. The setting you refer to is raw framebuffer, which is Imageon turned off.

But its off topic...so CLEAN ME OUT, KYPHUR ^^

[TaurusBullba]

I've got all of the files and registry setting in but it causes errors on boot and the last time it killed ActiveSync.

I figure if I'm getting enough little goodies in then the size of VC isn't that bad. Not to mention the whole "US English/UK English" and other language/dialing rules for different countries localization issues maybe it's just better to leave that one where it is.

Good idea. I think in the long wrong with language conflicts that would work just fine. It's only a few megs, so not too bad.

[GliTCH82]

I was seriously going to take my Hermes back today for a refund until I saw this thread. I'm only hoping that VC 1.6 works properly with Bluetooth and doesn't do the same garbage that it does with the current ROMs, because the setup I've got on my Wizard now is nothing short of perfect. As a matter of fact, my Hermes sat in its box for almost a week now and I'm still using my Wizard, that's just how damn good it is.

[kyphur]

Actually this is quite on topic when trying to determine if it should be embedded into the Rom.

I have to clean a few more files out tonignt and will be too busy in metings tomorrow to get much done but think that probably Saturday I can squeeze TCPMP into the Rom. There are a few versions and Im sure I read somewhere that the latest wasn't the most stable... Any feedback from long time users?

Doesnt officially support Imageon. The setting you refer to is raw framebuffer, which is Imageon turned off.

But its off topic...so CLEAN ME OUT, KYPHUR ^^

[aquasesh]

Actually this is quite on topic when trying to determine if it should be embedded into the Rom.

I have to clean a few more files out tonignt and will be too busy in metings tomorrow to get much done but think that probably Saturday I can squeeze TCPMP into the Rom. There are a few versions and Im sure I read somewhere that the latest wasn't the most stable... Any feedback from long time users?

Ver 1.01 was very good to me. Im running 1.04 right now, but since i
have the raw framebuffer running, there is not much difference.

I found out that given the right resolution and codec settings when
encoding the files on the pc, the Imageon sometimes does work.

How you gonna implement it, since its not free anymore? License needed?

[tadzio]

How you gonna implement it, since its not free anymore? License needed?

You were talking about CorePlayer. The old TCPMP is, imho, still the best, and it ist still freeware.

So, kyphur, the version that was already posted in this thread is the one that should go into the ROM. The new CorePlayer 1.0x lack some of the codecs and some other features, plus these are no longer free.

Cheers
Daniel

[chymmylt]

Not replacing anything, you would simply have the ability to assign the Press / Press & Hold to shortcuts like any other button!

Even better! Rock on and good work!

[Bimboy]

Ver 1.01 was very good to me. Im running 1.04 right now, but since i
have the raw framebuffer running, there is not much difference.

I found out that given the right resolution and codec settings when
encoding the files on the pc, the Imageon sometimes does work.

How you gonna implement it, since its not free anymore? License needed?

The "Core Player" is not free, but TCPMP is still listed as open source freeware. I think the latest is v0.72RC1, which was the immediate predecessor to v1.01 of Core Player.

I have this site (http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/) bookmarked, as I frequently load a new OS on my Hermes and need to load it all again. :) That link has all the codecs as well, which I also have loaded with no issues.

As others have mentioned, you have to set video for Raw Framebuffer, and it works fine.

Cheers

[cyberstraz]

The "Core Player" is not free, but TCPMP is still listed as open source freeware. I think the latest is v0.72RC1, which was the immediate predecessor to v1.01 of Core Player.

I have this site (http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/) bookmarked, as I frequently load a new OS on my Hermes and need to load it all again. :) That link has all the codecs as well, which I also have loaded with no issues.

As others have mentioned, you have to set video for Raw Framebuffer, and it works fine.

Cheers

Hi all,
I'm new to the forums so as my first post I thought I should try to help, and not just ask for stuff.
Using the basic, out of the box ROM, I loaded TCPMP v72RC1 and figured out a way to get around the whole skip/choppiness playback after pausing (which I;m sure a lot of you have noticed).

To fix the issue mid play:
Under Options->Audio, select Null Audio and then switch it back to Wav output.
You can then hit play and in under 2 secs the audio catches up with the video and then they both run in sync.

If there was an already-in-place workaround for this, I apologize for my noobitude.

-Cyberstraz

PS. PLEASE INCLUDE TCPMP IN THE ROM!!!

[aquasesh]

The "Core Player" is not free, but TCPMP is still listed as open source freeware. I think the latest is v0.72RC1, which was the immediate predecessor to v1.01 of Core Player.

I have this site (http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/) bookmarked, as I frequently load a new OS on my Hermes and need to load it all again. :) That link has all the codecs as well, which I also have loaded with no issues.

As others have mentioned, you have to set video for Raw Framebuffer, and it works fine.

Cheers


I actually tried 0.72 and found it buggy in my case.
Even in framebufferi couldnt get a clear video in FS. Mind you it might have been poor encoding....i will give it another try, but since i have
CorePlayer, it wont make much of a difference.

I was not talking about BetaPlayer...^^ As long as i can remove TCPMP
it will be ok. Since coreplayer is now my choice.

[aquasesh]

Since i dont know how the email client in WM6 performs,
would it make sense to include NPOP or QPOP as mail clients?

And maybe WM5torage is it works.

[kyphur]

Since i dont know how the email client in WM6 performs,
would it make sense to include NPOP or QPOP as mail clients?

And maybe WM5torage is it works.

What specifically are you looking to gain by adding N/Qpop?

[Taz69]

I got word today that the Carrier is planning to release this Rom

Interesting that at least 1 carrier will be offering WM6 for current devices hopefully Hermes/current carrier won't be the only combo
( Getting mitts on Universal RTM rom would also be sweet )

Can't wait for this to be released, maybe my Hermes will get used as something more than a bulky phone.

[Taz69]

Since i dont know how the email client in WM6 performs,


Not sure what you want out of a mail client.
I've been using WM6 with Universal and I like the built in mail client.
Though I must admit to using Exchange activesync rather than POP3.

[jasjamming]

Hey guys,

lets keep this ROM as clean as possible with only a few "essential apps" that everyone 'should' be using.

If apps by personal preference become included, then the ROM will become bloated.

[decepticon]

Not sure if its been asked as I may have missed it, but what about PTT availability for us AT&T users who actually use it?

[Arktronic]

Not sure if its been asked as I may have missed it, but what about PTT availability for us AT&T users who actually use it?

Then it wouldn't really be for *everyone*, now would it? ;)

EDIT: Although it would be nice to know if the WM5 PTT stuff works on WM6...

[decepticon]

Then it wouldn't really be for *everyone*, now would it? ;)

Then omit video calling as well since not *everyone* has a variant that supports it? :)

[walshieau]

Then omit video calling as well since not *everyone* has a variant that supports it? :)

No!!! i use video calling :)

[TaurusBullba]

Then omit video calling as well since not *everyone* has a variant that supports it? :)

As the French might say... touché!

[decepticon]

As the French might say... touché!

Zay you love ze crêpe suzette

[the_passenger]

this thread keeps me checking back here every 15mins, LOL

Please dont include too many apps in the ROM. thanks.

[crazyut]

I guess we are not allowed to download these files (most of the posts with files in them no longer work)? The only file I could download so far was the TMN Portugal Task file. When I click on these files or right click, it wants to save a 1 kb clear gif. I guess we have for the ROM :( (which is HAWWT idea btw).

Here's one from Vodafone Germany. Hope those are the files you are looking for (bmp and tsk), no *.today files on the whole device.

edit: I first thought that I wouldn't want them either - 600 KB for some simple theme that can be packed as 12 KB (7 KB if the board would allow .7z ;) ), but forgot that they won't steal space when they're in ROM, so I withdraw my complaint ;)

Heres The HTC Green Theme.

Here is the Cingular and the Mock Crossbow themes..

Here is the orange theme, taken from the Orange ROM available on this site

Here is the AT&T theme from the latest Cingular rom

[kyphur]

PTT is not part of this Rom. I haven't followed the PTT Thread but I'd bet if that gets working then it can be integrated or be installed as a cab file.

Not sure if its been asked as I may have missed it, but what about PTT availability for us AT&T users who actually use it?

[kyphur]

Looks like the forum software goofed the links when I asked it to merge the posts. Sorry about that. I have downloaded the files. Give me a day or two and I'll compile a complete list of the files with ftp links.

I guess we are not allowed to download these files (most of the posts with files in them no longer work)? The only file I could download so far was the TMN Portugal Task file. When I click on these files or right click, it wants to save a 1 kb clear gif. I guess we have for the ROM :( (which is HAWWT idea btw).

[jasjamming]

PTT is not part of this Rom. I haven't followed the PTT Thread but I'd bet if that gets working then it can be integrated or be installed as a cab file.

Is video calling part of the ROM as it is natural to 3G?

[Arktronic]

The latest Cingular ROM has PTT and shortly before that was released, the PTT CAB was leaked.

Another question - does the XDA-Live ROM have Intent Midlet Manager or equivalent Java MIDP support? I don't know how useful that would be to most people, though...

[Arktronic]

As the French might say... touché!

Indeed. But as Spock has said, The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few... or the one.So while PTT would only be useful for those with Cingular/AT&T who've subscribed to that service (which I admit I have not), video calling I would assume is used by many more people.

(kyphur, please feel free to delete this post...)

[kyphur]

Intent Midlet Manager is native to the Rom, shows Runtime JTWI 1.0: v11.1.7.1029 (Build 20061012)

Another question - does the XDA-Live ROM have Intent Midlet Manager or equivalent Java MIDP support? I don't know how useful that would be to most people, though...

[jasjamming]

Not sure if its been asked as I may have missed it, but what about PTT availability for us AT&T users who actually use it?

beggers cant be chosers

[jasjamming]

Today themes are small, I would like to include the HTC Standard as well as Carrier Themes for at least the major carriers just as a way to allow us to brand this Rom without having to use any of our storage memory.

Initial Rom will not have any added apps, just clean & stable though I might embed The Hermes Tweaker.


Hi kyphur

can u add this .tsk file. Its ALL BLACK with BLACK Bars. Very clean look.

[jasjamming]

Hi kyphur

can u add this .tsk file. Its ALL BLACK with BLACK Bars. Very clean look.

fil attached this time

[Arktronic]

Hi kyphur

can u add this .tsk file. Its ALL BLACK with BLACK Bars. Very clean look.

If you're referring to Windows Black, it's already included. See first post.

EDIT: Well, never mind I guess :)

[jasjamming]

If you're referring to Windows Black, it's already included. See first post.

does WMBlack change the softkeys and start bar to black with no gradients?

[flyboy009]

Any chance we could add the file"as"contact app. Unless WM6 contact manager has the ability to specify how you want someone's name to show. I don't know about anyone else but I haven't called anyone by their last name since high school gym class.

[TaurusBullba]

fil attached this time

... NOW THAT'S BLACK!

(delete me)

[rgreenpc]

Did this beta skin change as it went twoards final?

http://jkontherun.blogs.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/crossbow_smartphone_1_1.jpg

[TaurusBullba]

Any chance we could add the file"as"contact app. Unless WM6 contact manager has the ability to specify how you want someone's name to show. I don't know about anyone else but I haven't called anyone by their last name since high school gym class.

Did you know that it's not necessary to add that program at all? All you have to do is in the contact's "Name" section just add a "Nickname" in the "Nickname" field. TADA!

[auraclear]

Anyone for Skype? Or was it mentioned before?
:)

[Arktronic]

Anyone for Skype? Or was it mentioned before?
:)

That's probably a bit too heavy for inclusion in the ROM.

[mxlaser]

Why is everyone making requests for bloated software they have deemed needed....

Let the man make his ROM. All he wanted was .tsk files.

He's releasing a clean one, and a slightly modified to his preferences. As he's making it, im sure we can all politly just accept it and thank him for the time, effort and job he's doing and praise the fact he's releasing a clean rom for us all to bloat.

[walshieau]

lets keep the non-essential software out like skype... you can install it later on or cook your own OS with it included...

[jasjamming]

here here,

clean, simple and stable.

Other apps can be installed later on by each of us to our liking.

[Arktronic]

I don't know how advanced most people will want the calculator to be, so here's a variety:

http://www.calilei.com/product/Calilei%20Calculator%20Basic.shtml
http://www.freewareppc.com/calculator/koolcalclight.shtml
http://www.koneditor.com/pluscalc.html

Please note that I haven't personally used any of them so I can't really say how good they are. From the screenshots, Calilei looks to be the most basic one, but also it looks like you don't have to use a stylus with it (big buttons). The other two look quite a bit more advanced; the last one says it requires .NET CF, which I assume comes with WM6 anyway.

[shemi4444]

The thread tells clean rom, is it mean rom without device drivers? can we use it in magician ( i know this is hermes section) please reply

[walshieau]

The thread tells clean rom, is it mean rom without device drivers? can we use it in magician ( i know this is hermes section) please reply

clean meaning clean with no added apps but including device drivers for the hermes...

[shemi4444]

clean meaning clean with no added apps but including device drivers for the hermes...


thanks for your valuable reply

[Des]

The thread tells clean rom, is it mean rom without device drivers? can we use it in magician ( i know this is hermes section) please replymost clean rom is almost (and after 1st march would be officialy fully) publicialy avalible on... download.microsoft.com
(hint: emulator from sdk run arm, have no oem stuff and minimal set of drivers)

[mixmaven]

it sure would be nice to have all weekend to play with wm06 and get my apps reinstalled.... can you push that release date up any????

;-)
-mix

[aquasesh]

I agree, lets keep it clean.
Im just more worried about Sleuths post a few pages back.
Did i miss something there or what happened?

When i look at the screens, the default skin has a 3D like feel to it,
will that be gone using our standard tsks??

[TaurusBullba]

I agree, lets keep it clean.
Im just more worried about Sleuths post a few pages back.
Did i miss something there or what happened?

When i look at the screens, the default skin has a 3D like feel to it,
will that be gone using our standard tsks??

Yes, minimal. Let's all be able to personalize it the way we like when we load it. Don't we all hate buying computers all bloated with third party apps?

I was a bit worried about Sleuth's comment too. I figure Sleuth and Kyphur must have worked that out because the thread and project appear to still be a-go.

[Arktronic]

Yes, minimal. Let's all be able to personalize it the way we like when we load it. Don't we all hate buying computers all bloated with third party apps?

I was a bit worried about Sleuth's comment too. I figure Sleuth and Kyphur must have worked that out because the thread and project appear to still be a-go.

Yes, I'm sure Sleuth, being a sleuth, knows how to track down such problems and eliminate them ;)

[El_Mar1ach1]

What about Video Call? Is it available?

Great Job!!!

[redlynr]

I feel really dense. Is this a bootleg version of WM6, or will HTC/Cingular eventually be officially releasing this?

[apokryphus]

I have two questions about the live.ed:
1.
Does anyone know something about the voip-stack in WM6. I have read that this functionality should be added - also here in few forums.

2.
Is WM6 not multilingual? i also read this - however, could it be possible to take the language files from the clean rom, that des describes above, to get other languages nativly running?

Thank you

[HerrVorragend]

Hello,

are there any news about the "releasedate" of this rom?

[richy240]

Hello,

are there any news about the "releasedate" of this rom?

"Not yet."

[its right]

Great

we r waiting


thanx for your hard work

[sugardad]

kyphur how about Intergrating AEKMAP (http://ae.inc.ru/aekmap094.php)
Which is a WONDERFUL layout solution for our Intergrated keyboard and already supports switching to (English is Default) French, Greek, Italian.
Further layouts can be created by editing .AEK layout files
you can get It full with all layouts here (http://rapidshare.com/files/17882560/AEKMap_Keyboard.rar)
I already use It, It's working a treat and I have set switching between layouts through win key+right button when on hard keyb mode
Layout switching It's completely custom and different key combinations can be used!
Its really a must have for foreign users! :D

p.s. German users take a peek here (http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showthread.php?t=58070)

[hguiraud]

Can anyone tell me what are the advantages of going to WM6 over the current AKU3.3 WM5? Why should I upgrade?

[belinea]

Current Known Issues:

The only real issue is that I am bound by a promise to my source to not distribute this Rom until the Carrier releases it or I can get ALL IDENTIFYING INFORMATION removed from it. trust me, I am working on it but there is absolutely no room for errors. Ironically the Rom seems more stable since I've modified it than it was when I received it.I don´t think you are clever enough to crack out the watermark from the ROM. So I think "XDA Live" will never be released to the public. Otherwise your source had a BIG BIG Problem!

[finch]

About 10 minutes in photoshop and a few pictures from google.... a start on a boot screen. :)

-mix

That is the coolest bootscreen since my Mr. Clean.

Please use this.

[cyberstraz]

I don´t think you are clever enough to crack out the watermark from the ROM. So I think "XDA Live" will never be released to the public. Otherwise your source had a BIG BIG Problem!

Honestly, the guy is trying to do us all a favor while protecting his source. Just because we want something faster doesn't mean that you can reserve the right to moan about "it's never gonna be released then!"
Maybe he's smarter than you think.


my 2c

/flame off

[aeroke]

Why being so personal and negative!!???
It's thanks to these guys, a lot of us (me including) can finally use their unit as they want.
At least he tries to come up with something that most of us appriciate a lot.
And even if it doesn't get released, we should thank these guys for the efford they put in to it. Or do you just visit this forum to take what you want and then yell at the guys who provided it?

Anyway, thx to all you guys for the efford!

[MGraf]

Hi kyphur!

This is great news! Thanks a lot for all your hard work. Just one question (I know I could wait but am just too curious... ;-) ): Does WPA with AES encryption work in this WM6? Can't get TKIP to work correctly with my router and therefore can't use my Hermes in my WLAN.

Thanks again and keep up the good work!

[belinea]

Why being so personal and negative!!???Realistic. Not negative. ;)

[armedmetallica]

I don´t think you are clever enough to crack out the watermark from the ROM. So I think "XDA Live" will never be released to the public. Otherwise your source had a BIG BIG Problem!

Have some faith in the guy -- he got it this far!

Have you done anything like this before? or are you a user that roasted his device, and is taking anger out ?

Kyphur -- keep up the good work.

Others -- this should run on the HERM200 as well, right? I think the 8525 is the HERM100? other than videocam, there's nothing different between the two?

[kyphur]

I've updated the Original Post....

Screenshots of all the Today Themes (http://WM6.Kyphur.Org/Today%20Themes.asp)


Please, stop PMing asking for the Rom, I WILL NOT BURN THE SOURCE. :mad: If I appeased those asking then it is quite possible that in the long run it could delay the official release from the carrier and certian to close a very good source for things like this. Don't sell tommorow cheap for a little fun today.

I didn't start this thread to tease or taunt you guys. I wan't to give you hope and show that with some patience we will all have Crossbow.

I'm not the only person working on this, there are others checking my work and adding to it. I'm not the smartest guy here but I do have some time to devote to this.

No I can not promise that I will be able to release it prior to the official carrier release, sorry. I simply won't make promises I can't keep.

Yes, it will see the light of day in one form or another. The way I am scripting my changes to the Rom I can easily apply them to another Rom (from a different carrier or an updated version for this carrier).

[kyphur]

Looks like there is Video software in the Rom, I can't confirm as my device is an 8525.

BTW, thanks for the support...

this should run on the HERM200 as well, right? I think the 8525 is the HERM100? other than videocam, there's nothing different between the two?

[richy240]

I've updated the Original Post....

HA HA! PHM wins! Suck on that, Total Commander!

That is the coolest bootscreen since my Mr. Clean.

Please use this.

You did that? That was a nice boot screen. That ROM was the one thing I was sorry to give up when I got my Hermes. (That, and the Wizard's keyboard. I liked it better than the Hermes keyboard.)

[belinea]

I've updated the Original Post....


Screenshots of all the Today Themes (http://WM6.Kyphur.Org/Today%20Themes.asp)



WOOOOW! Amazing ! :eek:

[armedmetallica]

also, i vote for TC -- i realize the voting was pages ago -- didn't actually read the thread until today (yes - i read ALL the posts).

What about including our own Daniel Herrero's CommMgrPro or BandSwitch?

One last question, and i'll leave you to your work -- does this update the radio stack as well? I need bandswitch for areas that are transitioning to umts, since service is spotty. Switching to GSM helps -- BUT if this fixes that probrlem, then maybe bandswitch wont be needed on wm6 (sorry daniel)?

Keep up the good work -- even if you cannot release before official, you worked on it, and proved the concept.

ALSO -- not all carriers will release it, i'm sure.

[dutty]

I don´t think you are clever enough to crack out the watermark from the ROM. So I think "XDA Live" will never be released to the public. Otherwise your source had a BIG BIG Problem!
honestly, i doubt that there is a watermark in a rom.. that is not how test builds are done.. just hack the buildnumber away and all other things that might identify the current build and you are set..

i remember that we used to dump roms that we got from external sources onto the ftp and nobody cared about watermarks, etc.

besides that, there are some many hermes wm6.0 devices circulating around (ms has had many, every operator has a dozent wm6 hermes devices, the press(?)), the build could have leaked from anywhere. so i doubt that they would ever be able to trace back to where it leaked from.
i'm viewing this from a developer standpoint, and it's just not feasible to sign every (developer) wm6.0 hermes with a unique identifier. can you imagine how many different roms they would have to cook, sure you could automate that - but then again.. nobody ever did that, why should they do it now.. ít's just not feasible..


kyphur, dont think that i want to push you into releasing it. take your time, make sure your source is comfortable with it. but be logical about the whole thing. this is not the holy grail, maybe for some folks here but surely not for the operators/manufacturers.

[richy240]

i remember that we used to dump roms that we got from external sources onto the ftp and nobody cared about watermarks, etc.

Ahh, the good ol' days! (Not that I was dumping ROMs myself, but I was certainly downloading them!)

[Shamanix]

Here are some of my favourite themes, so maybe you consider adding them ;)

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/372/wmbnj2.jpg http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/27/vistaxv7.jpg

[crazyut]

Oh cool, thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and one more !

I think the crossbow will be cool from what I am reading.

I change my OS and extrom like I change underwear and have not bricked a device yet (I like mtty route.. so much faster).

Keep up the great works/dialog!! I can wait but it will not be easy :)

Looks like the forum software goofed the links when I asked it to merge the posts. Sorry about that. I have downloaded the files. Give me a day or two and I'll compile a complete list of the files with ftp links.

[ach2]

Realistic. Not negative. ;)

Realistic?? - Wan**R more likely - except not capable

[mrvanx]

Realistic?? - Wan**R more likely - except not capable

LOL!
But seriously guys lets not turn this into a flame-war. Xda-devs isnt about flaming anyway.

Im very impressed with this thread, gotta say since this is my first WM device its just got me SO excited!! :D

As someone has said before in this thread, patience is a virtue!

[richy240]

LOL!
But seriously guys lets not turn this into a flame-war. Xda-devs isnt about flaming anyway.

Im very impressed with this thread, gotta say since this is my first WM device its just got me SO excited!! :D

As someone has said before in this thread, patience is a virtue!

Word up mofo.

[scorpio16v]

I will release the scripts that I am using to build & rebuild this rom easily so that each of you can confidently do exactly as I am. I can release the scripts maybe this weekend regardless of the status of the Rom because they are independent of the Rom you are cooking.

That would be more worth, than the ROM itself.:rolleyes:

[flyboy009]

Can anyone tell me what are the advantages of going to WM6 over the current AKU3.3 WM5? Why should I upgrade?

There are a few new features to the new WM6. Performance, better syncing, icons and UI a bit more 3D.

Someone sent me a link a while for a video a while back that talks about some of the new features in WM6. This version really does alot for those syncing with an exchange server, better security and faster syncing though I'm sure some of the features are dependant on exchange 2007 which will be a while before alot of businesses upgrade.

http://www.crunchgear.com/2007/02/12/windows-mobile-6-in-excruciating-detail

[lpsi2000]

We should not under estimate the power of the mind when it is focused and determined. We are all different, some of us are more focused and determined than others. Let's not guesstimate or measure the capabilities of others with our own limitation, frankly it only seems to bring negative vibes.

Nonetheless, my comments are not meant to be offensive but merely keeping it "real"

[Lokutos]

Here is my Aero Crossbow for the New Rom!

I must have this rom :D

[richy240]

Here is my Aero Crossbow for the New Rom!

Nice, dude. Nice.

[kyphur]

Got it, thanks....


Here is my Aero Crossbow for the New Rom!

I must have this rom :D

[sugardad]

Kyphur BIG Thanx to ya and yer Team!!
I'm anxiously awaiting release!!
trully marvellous today themes
the XDA Live logo is made with the beta key in registry?

[kyphur]

You're Welcome,

I simply have collected the themes (you guys have sent me a nice selection please keep them coming). Even if they don't all get included I will make a repository that is mobile friendly for direct downloads.

Yes, I put two keys in the Beta key...

Kyphur BIG Thanx to ya and yer Team!!
I'm anxiously awaiting release!!
trully marvellous today themes
the XDA Live logo is made with the beta key in registry?

[ach2]

Ok, sorry for earlier but I've seen belinea's negative posts elsewhere n I got a bit angry... As a noobie, I've learned so much just from this thread even if the rom never gets posted - but I believe it will eventually, and maybe by then I'll be able to add something to it's future development...

[richy240]

You're Welcome,

I simply have collected the themes (you guys have sent me a nice selection please keep them coming). Even if they don't all get included I will make a repository that is mobile friendly for direct downloads.

Yes, I put two keys in the Beta key...

Which reg key is this? I have searched for info on it, but can't find anything definitive. Thanks!

[VIPPER2004]

Here goes Optimus today theme (Portuguese carrier).


Keep the dream alive

[mousey_]

Just A Quick Question. Does This ROM Come With Any Variant Of MSN Built Into It? If So Is It The New Live MSN?

Cheers

[mrvanx]

Just A Quick Question. Does This ROM Come With Any Variant Of MSN Built Into It? If So Is It The New Live MSN?

Cheers

Good question, i would also like to know this?!

EDIT:: Also i have another query (im sure a few people could answer this). Since i upgraded to AKU3.3 the browser now doesnt seem to be reporting that it is a PDA device?? The O2 UK site sent me to a pda version with pictures and HTML content before, now i get sent to the text WAP site.
try going to it http://pda.o2.co.uk and see which it sends you to.

Is there any issues like this in the NEW roms?? (not just XDA Live)

[flyboy009]

Last I heard Windows Live for Mobile was incorporated into WM6 OS.

[slimsaturn]

One thing I would like to see would be some extra sounds and such, like the 8125 Rom...Not sure which but had that "ATTENTION:Check the Message on Screen Now" sound. I just hate the stock ones.

[ratcom]

One thing I would like to see would be some extra sounds and such, like the 8125 Rom...Not sure which but had that "ATTENTION:Check the Message on Screen Now" sound. I just hate the stock ones.
do you mean this one? ;)

[flyboy009]

Also i have another query (im sure a few people could answer this). Since i upgraded to AKU3.3 the browser now doesnt seem to be reporting that it is a PDA device?? The O2 UK site sent me to a pda version with pictures and HTML content before, now i get sent to the text WAP site.
try going to it http://pda.o2.co.uk and see which it sends you to.

Is there any issues like this in the NEW roms?? (not just XDA Live)

Sorry mrvanx, tried that site and I don't get anything. Blank on phone and pc can't find the page. Only thing I could get to was a google cached page but none of the links responded.

[mrvanx]

Sorry mrvanx, tried that site and I don't get anything. Blank on phone and pc can't find the page. Only thing I could get to was a google cached page but none of the links responded.

must only work if you go through an o2 gprs/umts connection?!
It works correctly when i use opera, but thats not free to use.
Never mind im sure itl be ok on XDA-Live. :D

[Shamanix]

I am looking and waiting for the "clean" XDA-Live installation, becouse I`d like to customize my device the way I want and to have as much as possible free storage space after installation ;)

I like some of the themes included in XDA-Live FullOn Edition hehe, it would be wonderful if you could compile all the themes separately in zip archive for us that will go with the clean XDA-Live edition, so we can choose single themes from the compilation and maintain as much free storage space as possible :)

[kyphur]

You want "kyphur's ROM Microwave" ;)

This weekend I'm going to see if I can find enough time to write a GUI which will allow you to this without having the basic scripting knowledge my current methd requires.

I will include a clean ROM files as your starting point. I will make AKU 2.3, AKU 3.3 and Crossbow(when it can be released) base Roms.

More news this weekend...

I am looking and waiting for the "clean" XDA-Live installation, becouse I`d like to customize my device the way I want and to have as much as possible free storage space after installation ;)

I like some of the themes included in XDA-Live FullOn Edition hehe, it would be wonderful if you could compile all the themes separately in zip archive for us that will go with the clean XDA-Live edition, so we can choose single themes from the compilation and maintain as much free storage space as possible :)

[Pisquee]

OK, I noticed that you were going to include an old phone ringer. I have one that I recorded a few years ago (May 2004) of a UK old phone. It is a very loud ringer and hard to not hear. Is also well recorded and realistic.
I posted it over on Modaco, and it is on this thread ... http://www.modaco.com/Old_BT_746_Ringer_wav-t108405.html
Enjoy

(in looking for the thread i noticed around 900 people have downloaded it ...wish i'd charged £1 for it!) :-)

[mrvanx]

OK, I noticed that you were going to include an old phone ringer. I have one that I recorded a few years ago (May 2004) of a UK old phone. It is a very loud ringer and hard to not hear. Is also well recorded and realistic.
I posted it over on Modaco, and it is on this thread ... http://www.modaco.com/Old_BT_746_Ringer_wav-t108405.html
Enjoy

(in looking for the thread i noticed around 900 people have downloaded it ...wish i'd charged £1 for it!) :-)

You gotta register to download it sir, can you post it on here??

[TaurusBullba]

You gotta register to download it sir, can you post it on here??

To save Pisquee some time, I already got it from his link, and here it is. Very nice recording. Clear and loud.

[jompao]

You want "kyphur's ROM Microwave" ;)

This weekend I'm going to see if I can find enough time to write a GUI which will allow you to this without having the basic scripting knowledge my current methd requires.

I will include a clean ROM files as your starting point. I will make AKU 2.3, AKU 3.3 and Crossbow(when it can be released) base Roms.

More news this weekend...

Awesome, that would be dream come true!

[mixmaven]

I was checking the forum one last time before heading home and saw the thread "Underground edition Crossbow ROM" the first post it said it was posted for download and the next post had someone downloading it... I almost went into a flurry of clicking into the ftp when I realized.... I was in the WIZARD upgrade forum instead of the hermes upgrade. What a downer!

ho hum,
-mix

[dh]

Which reg key is this? I have searched for info on it, but can't find anything definitive. Thanks!

Try this
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\DeviceBeta\Today = "Hello World" (REG_SZ string, no quotes)

[Pisquee]

To save Pisquee some time, I already got it from his link, and here it is. Very nice recording. Clear and loud.

Thanks - didn't see how to attach/upload files here, and now i do! sorry
;-)

[richy240]

Try this
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\DeviceBeta\Today = "Hello World" (REG_SZ string, no quotes)
Sweet. Thanks!

[ChaoticDruid]

Hi Kyphur, I'm sure you probably are already ontop of this, but could you please include some readme's also, I see your mention of .nb files to replace just the os, on the first page, I'm kinda interested in just swappin out my os and leaving everything else alone, I looked around a bit, and tried a search on .nb, but I think the search keyword is too short, and all I found mention of was .nbh files when I looked at the recent hermes tools, I'm just wondering how that process of swappin out the os only goes and possibly retrieving .nb files, sorry if I missed something, I work from my tytn all the time, no pc here at home, so I miss things at times tryin to browse through lots of forum postings on this lil screen.
thanks
You want "kyphur's ROM Microwave" ;)

This weekend I'm going to see if I can find enough time to write a GUI which will allow you to this without having the basic scripting knowledge my current methd requires.

I will include a clean ROM files as your starting point. I will make AKU 2.3, AKU 3.3 and Crossbow(when it can be released) base Roms.

More news this weekend...

[Sleuth255]

@ChaoticDruid: check out the bootloader 1.01MFG thread located here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290206) for more info on flashing OS.nb. This is the absolutely fastest way to flash an OS onto your Hermes.

Or, you can build your own flashable RUU in NBH using the great tool that Olipro put together. That thread is located here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294523)..

now back to our regularly scheduled topic.... ;)

[ChaoticDruid]

Thanks for the info.

[jasjamming]

the suspense is killing me....

but i must applaud kyphur for sticking to his words to protect his source.

My wife, the last 2 days, has complained that I havent been giving her attention. what does she expect..... its WM6 for goodness sake. women will never fully understand the phrase "boys with their toys".

[liva]

the suspense is killing me....

but i must applaud kyphur for sticking to his words to protect his source.

My wife, the last 2 days, has complained that I havent been giving her attention. what does she expect..... its WM6 for goodness sake. women will never fully understand the phrase "boys with their toys".
lol like here.

[Zgembo]

LOL

My started throwing pillows at me today!

[piopawlu]

My started throwing pillows at me today!
heh, not really surprising, if the first thing you did when you woke up was refreshing the forum :-)

[jasjamming]

LOL

My started throwing pillows at me today!

here is the hack to avoid this type of behaviour.take your hermes in the toiltet (as I have done now) and refresh or post from in there. that is the only place my mrs will leave me alone. the only problem is you do get dumb legs after sitting on the toilet for 45 mins. you also have to justify why you need to 10 times per day, so make sure you do eat some spicy food the day before to cover that asect.

[hellejoep]

here is the hack to avoid this type of behaviour.take your hermes in the toiltet (as I have done now) and refresh or post from in there. that is the only place my mrs will leave me alone. the only problem is you do get dumb legs after sitting on the toilet for 45 mins. you also have to justify why you need to 10 times per day, so make sure you do eat some spicy food the day before to cover that asect.
:LOL: And yes I agree.....

[sub69]

My wife is off shopping in Milan for the weekend. The credit card bill will probably weigh a ton next month, but at least I get to waste as much time as I like with the refresh button!

[steverae]

here is the hack to avoid this type of behaviour.take your hermes in the toiltet (as I have done now) and refresh or post from in there. that is the only place my mrs will leave me alone. the only problem is you do get dumb legs after sitting on the toilet for 45 mins. you also have to justify why you need to 10 times per day, so make sure you do eat some spicy food the day before to cover that asect.

hehe, been doing that for ages now, even manage to sneak the laptop in their occationally too !!!

however, that's when the bairns become a pain as our little girl always seems to want the toilet as soon as i sit on it.....

I've had 4 pda/phones from the himalaya which i upgraded to wm2003se within a week of getting it and finding this cool site.... then i had the universal, then changed that to a wizard which i upgraded several times... sold that and got a hermes, a month later the orbit came out :( so have been running the base rom on the hermes until all the clever people on here got the upgrading sorted....

big ups to pof, kyphur, des, sleuth255 and the rest of the gang who have mode such progress in cracking the protection on this phone......

waiting patiently for wm6...

i understand you have to upgrade in windows xp, not vista... ?

BTW Just noticed i joined Dec 2004..... thats when i got my himalaya and did my first upgrade from wm2003 to wm2003se..... got this from orange (m1000) for a super cheap price of £49.99 instead of £149.99 coz of an error on their webpage when it was first released !!!!

[scorpio16v]

What programs are installed by default in the "XDA-Live" ROM ?
Is the BT-FTP Browser installed ? If not,there is an .cab in the FTP Upload directory.
Maybe you could include it.
ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Hermes/BT_FTP_Addon.rar

[rv1nd]

Its a shame this forum doesnt email you as soon the tread is updated!

[at10ti0n]

well in my opinion instead having 3 different apps (ftp, file manager, reg editor) we could have only one: total commander... which is freeware too...

[jasjamming]

well in my opinion instead having 3 different apps (ftp, file manager, reg editor) we could have only one: total commander... which is freeware too...

beggers cannot be chosers.

let the guy get the ROM done how he wants it, we should just be happy that there is a possiblity it will be released to us soon.

[Izzard-UK]

i understand you have to upgrade in windows xp, not vista... ?

I upgraded to AKU 3.3 absolutely fine using Vista...although I had to replace the HTC USB Sync driver with an older one (the driver on the CD that came with my phone) in order to do it.

There are two drivers used by windows, depending on the state of the phone. When the phone is in the bootloader mode it is seen by Windows as "HTC USB Sync" and that is the mode that the ROM Updaters force the phone into. So just use the older driver (mine is from 2004 I think) because later ones don't let the updater continue under Vista.

[lpsi2000]

@steverae,

I have been doing my upgrade from Vista for the past 8 weeks.

[Sleuth255]

I think its time that I explained something about the Hermes WM6 ROMs.

As most of you have guessed (based on PMs I've received), there are a number of Hermes WM6 ROMs floating about. In fact, they are the most complete of all the WM6 builds that I have seen. This because the Hermes is actually the m$ development platform for WM6. However, the reason there are virtually none "in the wild" is that they are all tagged in many (sometimes insidious) ways as to be traceable back to their various NDA sources. If one of these ROMs were to surface in its original state and be widely distributed, its associated NDA source would be exposed and lawsuits/firings would commence.

Early on in the WM6 saga, a number of "bare bones" proof of concept WM6 builds appeared for many HTC devices. Most didn't even contain Pocket Office components. However, the core WM6 components were there and so an opportunity was presented. Unfortunately for us and fortunately for Universal and Wizard owners, the advanced cooking tools available on those devices allowed platform ROM Chefs to get right to work. The results are well known: Obtaining Universal and Wizard WM6 ROMs is now pretty much trivial

Hermes WM6 ROMs can't be distributed in their original state however. I think I can speak for all XDA developers when I say that I would not be able to sleep at night thinking about the possibility of somebody losing his/her livelyhood because of a leaked ROM that exposed a NDA violation.

The game has changed though. Now, finally, our own Kitchen is almost complete thanks to the hard work of folks like pof, Des, tadzio, Olipro, ahlok_hk and of course mamaich who built the Kitchen's original foundation so to speak.

Using these new tools, Kyphur is taking great pains to remove all traceable information from a number of seed ROMs, in effect creating a hybrid that isn't covered by any one NDA. This is a painstaking process as tags are continually being uncovered.

I'm sure you can now see why my answer to those of you who have PMed me concerning WM6 ROMs has been the following:

patience..... patience....

There will be WM6 for Hermes. We will not endanger fellow developers nor will we break NDA agreements to provide it though.

[lpsi2000]

Agreed, keep up the great work. I will wait for as long as it takes.

[steverae]

I think its time that I explained something about the Hermes WM6 ROMs.

As most of you have guessed (based on PMs I've received), there are a number of Hermes WM6 ROMs floating about. In fact, they are the most complete of all the WM6 builds that I have seen. This because the Hermes is actually the m$ development platform for WM6. However, the reason there are virtually none "in the wild" is that they are all tagged in many (sometimes insidious) ways as to be traceable back to their various NDA sources. If one of these ROMs were to surface in its original state and be widely distributed, its associated NDA source would be exposed and lawsuits/firings would commence.

Early on in the WM6 saga, a number of "bare bones" proof of concept WM6 builds appeared for many HTC devices. Most didn't even contain Pocket Office components. However, the core WM6 components were there and so an opportunity was presented. Unfortunately for us and fortunately for Universal and Wizard owners, the advanced cooking tools available on those devices allowed platform ROM Chefs to get right to work. The results are well known: Obtaining Universal and Wizard WM6 ROMs is now pretty much trivial

Hermes WM6 ROMs can't be distributed in their original state however. I think I can speak for all XDA developers when I say that I would not be able to sleep at night thinking about the possibility of somebody losing his/her livelyhood because of a leaked ROM that exposed a NDA violation.

The game has changed though. Now, finally, our own Kitchen is almost complete thanks to the hard work of folks like pof, Des, tadzio, Olipro, ahlok_hk and of course mamaich who built the Kitchen's original foundation so to speak.

Using these new tools, Kyphur is taking great pains to remove all traceable information from a number of seed ROMs, in effect creating a hybrid that isn't covered by any one NDA. This is a painstaking process as tags are continually being uncovered.

I'm sure you can now see why my answer to those of you who have PMed me concerning WM6 ROMs has been the following:

patience..... patience....

There will be WM6 for Hermes. We will not endanger fellow developers nor will we break NDA agreements to provide it though.

As always, well explained... I for sure will wait as flashing my device with console commands etc aint my idea of fun. All updates I have done in the past on all my old devices have been done via a nice simple ruu... gui upgrader.... I don't fancy bricking my phone just yet with a typo...

ill be donating more pennys to the forum to help towards the fantastic work everyone here does, with out this forum i'd probably have a nokia or sumit :D

[omega2008]

As always, well explained... I for sure will wait as flashing my device with console commands etc aint my idea of fun. All updates I have done in the past on all my old devices have been done via a nice simple ruu... gui upgrader.... I don't fancy bricking my phone just yet with a typo...

ill be donating more pennys to the forum to help towards the fantastic work everyone here does, with out this forum i'd probably have a nokia or sumit :D

I totally agree I do not want a WM6 ROM for my Hermes if someone is going to loose there job or have a lawsuit filed against them. I am willing to wait as long as it takes so that all sources to this is kept hidden.

[kkiran]

thanx for da update sleuth!pretty informative!so M$ wants to track the wm6 based phones,huh...so far hermes is the best widely used mobile phone...y dont' they release wm6 when they supplied it for device manufacturers?probably cingular tricks into play!nyways,if not for cingy,we have xda live cookin up...thank u xda devs,without u,my ppc venturing wudn' b possible!

[Prerna]

I have the following Today (.tsk) Themes in the Rom: (Click here for Images (http://WM6.Kyphur.Org/Today%20Themes.asp))
AT&T
Cingular
DoCoMo Koyo
DoCoMo TransOrb
Dopod Black
Guava Bubbles
HTC
i-mate Grass
i-mate Swoosh
Mono Black Solid
O2 Germany
Orange 2006
Telstra
TMN Portugal
T-Mobile (NL)
T-Mobile (UK)
Treo 750A
Vodafone
Windows Black
Windows Default (WM5)
Windows Default (WM6)
Windows Mobile Green

Here's one more that I did not see posted here:

[kyphur]

The zip file is corrupt, please repost.

Here's one more that I did not see posted here:

[Arktronic]

The zip file is corrupt, please repost.

Worked for me... I've recompressed it using an older ZIP format, for better compatibility.

EDIT: kyphur, if you're using the internal Windows XP "Compressed Folder" crap, that would explain why you thought it was corrupted - Windows thinks so. That's because it doesn't support the newer ZIP format. I highly recommend switching to a normal archive app such as the free IZArc.

[ibeqa]

I'm starting to think that it was a mistake to inform us that a WM6 rom is being cooked.
A lot of impatient people (is there a possibility of a microsoft informer - of course yes!!!)

Cheers

[scorpio16v]

I'm starting to think that it was a mistake to inform us that a WM6 rom is being cooked.
A lot of impatient people (is there a possibility of a microsoft informer - of course yes!!!)

Cheers
Maybe you are right.:(
But at current time we talk about a fictive, not downloadable, theoretical, possibility.:D
Let's not think so negative. And stay cool.:cool:

[kyphur]

It is known that Microsoft & the Carriers watch this forum. I think this single thread demonstrates the desire for WM6 on the Hermes. HINT HINT....

Until anyone can PROVE everything I claim in this thread there is no worry.;) Hence the extreme caution in removing traces before release...

I'm starting to think that it was a mistake to inform us that a WM6 rom is being cooked.
A lot of impatient people (is there a possibility of a microsoft informer - of course yes!!!)

Cheers

[netnerd]

just think of wm6.0 as vista. not much new in vista compare to xp.
so... not much new in wm6.0 from wm5.0, then u will feel better and dont mind the long wait..
that' what i do..

[scorpio16v]

I can wait for XDA-Live but not for your ROM-Cookbook.
The best thing is to learn how to cook a custom ROM.:)

[shogunmark]

it is a painstaking process.. i have also picked through the rom and even uncovered a thing or 2... As i myself have a really good understanding of how sensitive this matter is... (its a long painful story that i havent recovered from just yet). But nonetheless its being worked on... patience is the key!