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LegolasTheElf
21st February 2007, 05:35 PM
A **NEW** feature has been added to the forum. It's called "SEARCH". It lets you find things from days-gone-by that could apply to your VERY situation! Also, a fantastic part of the site, the WIKI also has GREAT information. WIKI is like a big book of knowledge. It tells you how to FIX your brick without bugging the rest of us.

If you can't read the Wiki, and refuse to use the SEARCH button, NO ONE WILL HELP YOU FIX YOUR BRICK!

Oh, there is also one other way to fix your brick--guaranteed to make your phone stop being a problem for you... Take phone and all original accessories, and put in a box. Seal with packing tape, and bring to your local post office. PM me for the proper address to send it to (my home address, duh!) and I promise to take GOOD care of the phone! Expect it to be returned never. :p

echoz
21st February 2007, 05:41 PM
Could you add in a bit for people who have not even done anything to check the wiki and use the search instead of PM/posting endless "how do i..." questions? :P

sub69
21st February 2007, 06:34 PM
Ok, go easy guys.

Firstly, I suspect the type of noob who asks these sorts of questions wouldn't stop to read any posts (including this one) before going straight to the "Start New Thread" button. So this is probably just another futile effort to educate ;)

And yes it's annoying, but we're all pretty tolerant around here aren't we? We will usually try to help noobs who ask a question, even if it's just a case of pointing them to the right page.

I find the best thing to do when confronted with a new batch of silly questions from lazy people, is to answer a couple and ignore the rest. Then log out, take a few deep breaths, and come back later!

That said, if there are any noobs reading this thread, please, please, please do use the search and the wiki before posting questions.

franula
21st February 2007, 07:05 PM
Yes, i have bricked device..

It's not that i didn't read wiki or did search on the forum, I simply CAN'T do anything.

I disable USB in activesync and when i connect hermes it's still says "serial"....

Please guys...help

Olipro
21st February 2007, 07:37 PM
Yes, i have bricked device..

It's not that i didn't read wiki or did search on the forum, I simply CAN'T do anything.

I disable USB in activesync and when i connect hermes it's still says "serial"....

Please guys...help

are you sure the USB cable isn't dodgy?

franula
21st February 2007, 09:05 PM
are you sure the USB cable isn't dodgy?

Yes i'm sure. When i connect the usb cable i see on the screen USB and computer makes the sound but mtty doesn't work

spastico
21st February 2007, 09:37 PM
Yes, I agree...
Read and Search.
Otherwise the forum becomes a congested mess of repeated questions over and over.
I used to go on my 'soap box' over at TC, and even started threads on 'Search First'

When wpbear told me 'Search', I didn't get offended:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1136130&postcount=593

The people (noobs) who just show up and post a question and get insulted when asked to read up, are like someone who walks into library and expects the people reading books are there to stop what they're doing and answer questions.

Yea, it takes a little research to find what your looking for, but then you learn how to find answers for yourself.

Everyone Wins! :)

Regarding Searching First, I have heard arguments from both sides.
So whether one has an excuse for why they start a new thread or not, the end result is a bigger problem for others. (Bazillion Threads on the Same Topic.)
Let's pretend I'm the New Guy. I just found this Forum, and now, do I first see if there is standard of expectation from me? Or do I just jump in and start doing things my way?
If I take a little time to figure out how it all works, it stays more organized, and I have only inconvenienced myself. (I did the Work for Myself) But if I just start new threads on everything I think of, I have inconvenienced others by creating more clutter for everyone else to deal with.
Starting a new thread because of not being familiar w/ how things are done may be an excuse for a noob, but one should catch on pretty quickly. And nobody should be made feel bad because they asked them to do a Search.

So we should not ask them to search?
Are you saying we should not mention the "Forum Guidline: To Search Before We Post"?

So the noob asks: (Post #1 ) 'What's the Flashing Snowflake Thingy?" We just tell him, and give him a Link?
So now the noob asks: (Post #2) "Why is my Hotsync hanging at my Contacts?" or "My computer says it Doesn't Recognize the USB Device"
So the noob just goes on, starting new Threads, everytime they need an answer.

To use an illustration:
What do you do when you go into a Library, Do you just go sit down and ask the people around you anything you want to know?
What if one of those people asked you to go and try to find the answer in one of the many books on that subject?

http://discuss.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1010121&postcount=26

Yea, It's one of my:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_peeve

Okay,
I better get back to work. :-/

delgado83
21st February 2007, 11:49 PM
You guys are in the right. I just got my hermy for my bday and I made sure to read everything carefully before I even attempted to do anything to it. Now my phone is SuperCID and SIM unlocked thanks to you guys. This website is the greatest and I am really thankful for eveyones hard work. I hope I eventually get better at so I can contribute and stop being a noob. :D

Olipro
22nd February 2007, 12:33 AM
Yes i'm sure. When i connect the usb cable i see on the screen USB and computer makes the sound but mtty doesn't work

Your computer should not make ANY sound when you plug it in since this means you have not disabled Activesync's USB connection, please disable USB connections in Activesync... that means actually do it rather than pretend to.

sub69
22nd February 2007, 01:13 AM
Yes franula, basically untick every box in the ActiveSync "connection settings" menu, and click "Ok". You should NOT have the ActiveSync icon in your PC's system tray (next to the clock in the bottom right-hand corner).

Then put your Hermes into bootloader mode (by holding down the side "OK" button and the "Power" button, whilst poking "Reset")

Once you get the bootloader's tri-colour screen on your Hermes and you've completely disabled ActiveSync so that it is nowhere to be seen, THEN plug in the USB cable, and try mtty.....

jasjamming
22nd February 2007, 04:21 AM
A **NEW** feature has been added to the forum. It's called "SEARCH". It lets you find things from days-gone-by that could apply to your VERY situation! Also, a fantastic part of the site, the WIKI also has GREAT information. WIKI is like a big book of knowledge. It tells you how to FIX your brick without bugging the rest of us.

If you can't read the Wiki, and refuse to use the SEARCH button, NO ONE WILL HELP YOU FIX YOUR BRICK!

Oh, there is also one other way to fix your brick--guaranteed to make your phone stop being a problem for you... Take phone and all original accessories, and put in a box. Seal with packing tape, and bring to your local post office. PM me for the proper address to send it to (my home address, duh!) and I promise to take GOOD care of the phone! Expect it to be returned never. :p

You could have put it in a nicer way. If there are posts from newbies that are already answered in the wiki or in previous posts, we usually just point them to it.

Speaking of wasting space and congeting this forum, this thread is doing just that.

franula
22nd February 2007, 08:14 AM
I did it! Everything is ok now.....

It was Windows Vista 64bit issue....



thanx guys