View Full Version : Pros & cons of crossbow
aniel1
01-03-2007, 09:45 AM
i thought I must write a small description about the differences between WM5 aku 3.X and WM Crossbow
1.A refreshing new look the taskbar has a new shine to it,looks crisp and clean ,even the icons and loading(graphics have been changed)
2.more stable ,real good stability when compared to other AKU 3.X of WM5
this I quote because of the fact that I can stay w/o soft resetting the device for 3 days because there is still some ram left in the 3rd day
WM crossbow =18 mb
WM 5 AKU 3.X = 15 mb
3.new smart dialing-this one consumes much lesser ram and has a brand new look..much more responsive than that of the previous smart dialer
4.Voice Command 1.6 comes with Crossbow
5.all new sounds (no more annoying Default tone)
Cons
this is the only disadvantage I found as of now
THE BATTERY CONSUMPTION-the battery drains like crazy...
the PDA runs hardly for 16-17 normal hours
when compared to 1- 1.5 days using WM5 AKU 3.x
Most Important: NO VIDEO CALL
Rest all using Crossbow may know more.;)
Calcu
01-03-2007, 10:22 AM
And in crossbow there is no Video call no?
panzer
01-03-2007, 12:19 PM
i have to agree - the battery drains faster
pbocsak
02-03-2007, 10:26 AM
con:
if you use BT hands free and also use it for music playback, you can't then use it for voice recognition. so it's either one, not both :(
will try to find a way arround it, though...
aniel1
02-03-2007, 11:42 AM
con:
if you use BT hands free and also use it for music playback, you can't then use it for voice recognition. so it's either one, not both :(
will try to find a way arround it, though...
Very true.One has to keep making registry changes.:rolleyes:
DaVince
05-03-2007, 03:46 PM
Battery drains faster? really? I didn't notice that.. maybe it's because of my power settings..
The real PRO about WM6 would be the speed.. it is a lot faster than WM5.
I just hate the loss of video call.. this is one of the biggest features of the Universal and you can't use it.. :(
SpyderTracks
05-03-2007, 03:47 PM
I just hate the loss of video call.. this is one of the biggest features of the Universal and you can't use it.. :(
I have a feeling this will be fixed very soon... keep your ears out ;)
DaVince
05-03-2007, 03:59 PM
I have a feeling this will be fixed very soon... keep your ears out ;)
I hope you're right man.. I really hope you're right..
I hope the (great and awesome) developers out there don't get tired of what they're doing.. :)
421905633783
05-03-2007, 11:34 PM
Well, the battery drains much much faster than with the previous ROMs. And I have a number of other problems (I have to softreset 2x a day, ...), so I have to go back to AKU 3.2 - worked fine with me. And I can not see REAL improvement in speed. I mean I do not care if the device boots in 25 or 22 seconds, or if it takes 0.05 sec. or 0.03 sec for menu to open.
Taz69
06-03-2007, 04:35 AM
With regards to the battery drain try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294573&highlight=sd+power+management
It is from one of the other forums but the registry setting seems to improve battery life by allowing SD card to go into a standby mode. Also it does appear to work.
(Though I tend to recharge daily I've not had my battery die midday for a while.)
Also reducing the brightness of the backlight to minimum on battery power seems to increase life considerably.
aniel1
06-03-2007, 04:45 AM
Thanks. This is very good info for all of us.:)
aniel1
06-03-2007, 04:54 AM
With regards to the battery drain try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294573&highlight=sd+power+management
It is from one of the other forums but the registry setting seems to improve battery life by allowing SD card to go into a standby mode. Also it does appear to work.
(Though I tend to recharge daily I've not had my battery die midday for a while.)
Also reducing the brightness of the backlight to minimum on battery power seems to increase life considerably.
On checking the registry as per the link you provided, I dont see " disable power management" . Could you explain how you managed to do so on a universal.
cktlcmd
06-03-2007, 05:04 AM
I am using PDAViet's ROM. No fast battery drain on mine.
edeplano
06-03-2007, 09:03 AM
con:
if you use BT hands free and also use it for music playback, you can't then use it for voice recognition. so it's either one, not both :(
will try to find a way arround it, though...
I have found these little exe toggles to work. I can still use MS Voice command by pressing the button on my headset and if I want all audio to be redirected to the headset (ex to use SJPhone VoIP) I just run BTAUdioToggle.
Works great on the Universal!
http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/samsung-i730-i830-i830w/54951-utility-redirect-all-audio-bluetooth-headset.html
I tried the BlueMusic application that claimed to do the same and it almost screwed up my machine!
pbocsak
06-03-2007, 08:12 PM
huh? I either missed something or your prog doesn't work. When I launch BTAudioOn.exe, it does the same as if I'd press on my headset's button. Same with BTAUdioToggle.exe
Did I miss something, or what?
edeplano
06-03-2007, 09:09 PM
It could be that it works for me as I had previously made a registry change that worked under WM5 (but not under WM6) and I never set the registry back.
Try: HKLM/Software/OEM/voicecommand - set the value of "launchapenable" from 1 to 0
reset and try again
Any luck?
Taz69
06-03-2007, 10:52 PM
On checking the registry as per the link you provided, I dont see " disable power management" . Could you explain how you managed to do so on a universal.
I use PHM Registry Editor but I expect any reg editor will do.
Goto HKLM\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Class\SDMemory_C lass
Select 'New DWORD Value'; add an entry for 'DisablePowerManagement' and set the value to 0
IIRC the key needs adding, not just a case of changing the value of an already existing key.
aniel1
07-03-2007, 03:22 AM
I use PHM Registry Editor but I expect any reg editor will do.
Goto HKLM\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Class\SDMemory_C lass
Select 'New DWORD Value'; add an entry for 'DisablePowerManagement' and set the value to 0
IIRC the key needs adding, not just a case of changing the value of an already existing key.
thanks I will try.:)
StevePritchard
07-03-2007, 07:33 AM
To me, the benefits of Crossbow are not it's fancy skinning, or new icons, but:
1. Much improved Pocket Outlook. The ability to show HTML eMails, and to search for eMails by just typing the letters you want when you are viewing the list, is great.
2. Much improved Pocket IE. PIE makes a really good job of rendering web pages now, and in hi-res. I've been able to stop using Opera, as use a combination of PIE and MultiIE, to give tab support, for all of my browsing.
3. Much improved Terminal Service Client application. The full screen facility without having to resort to 3rd party software (thanks Vijay!) is very handy.
I think speed has improved, but I wouldn't say that stability is worse over a standard ROM, but its still not so much of a downside for me to give up those facilities outlined above.
Cheers,
Steve.
aniel1
07-03-2007, 08:07 AM
I feel the only drawback is the phone application in other words the radio.
Somehow, call gets disconnected while talking, busy tone is not heard and it tends to freeze.
tech.junkie
15-03-2007, 02:02 PM
hi there. i have a few questions b4 upgrading to WM6:
1. can i stil put my dopod 900 into true/real VGA (640x480) mode? same method as WM5?
2. are 3rd-party WM5 software stil compatible w/ WM6?
i hope d answers 2 d above are yes so upgrading to WM6 wud b a pro 4 me.
aniel1
15-03-2007, 02:25 PM
hi there. i have a few questions b4 upgrading to WM6:
1. can i stil put my dopod 900 into true/real VGA (640x480) mode? same method as WM5?
2. are 3rd-party WM5 software stil compatible w/ WM6?
i hope d answers 2 d above are yes so upgrading to WM6 wud b a pro 4 me.
Yes both is possible. I have personally been using many 3rd party wm5 apps with crossbow..
VGA mode is possible too.:)
tech.junkie
15-03-2007, 02:30 PM
tnx aniel. cant w8 4 my ROM download 2 finish!
BTW, d VGA mode ur referring 2 is using OzVGA right?
SpyderTracks
15-03-2007, 06:35 PM
I personally use OzVGA with WM6 and it works sweet as a nut, same results as with WM5 :)
tech.junkie
15-03-2007, 07:18 PM
tnx 4 d replies aniel1 & SpyderTracks. already installed WM6, ozVGA, ilauncher, SPB pocket+ & resco explorer & so far, so good!
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