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mikegoldnj
02-03-2007, 05:34 AM
I have a quick question regarding the various indicators on Cingular 8525.

(U, E, G, 3G)

When I had the Cingular 2.06 ROM on the device I was getting either a G, an E or a 3G.

With XDA Live I am now getting a large U with a small E (by the signal strength indicator) in spots where I used to get just a G.

I did see a 3G indicator at my office in Manhattan but also alternated with the U indicator.

Just trying to figure out what system I'm seeing now as indicated by the symbols in this ROM.

shogunmark
02-03-2007, 05:49 AM
if you have the phcanoverbmp.dll from the cingular 3.3 rom then this will fix your issue... actually i just made a cab real quick... try this!

mikegoldnj
02-03-2007, 06:05 AM
if you have the phcanoverbmp.dll from the cingular 3.3 rom then this will fix your issue... actually i just made a cab real quick... try this!

Thanks....installed CAB file but still have same issue with the indicators. Will mounting the extended ROM with the HTC tweak program help at all?

telarium
02-03-2007, 07:50 AM
I have a quick question regarding the various indicators on Cingular 8525.

(U, E, G, 3G)

When I had the Cingular 2.06 ROM on the device I was getting either a G, an E or a 3G.

With XDA Live I am now getting a large U with a small E (by the signal strength indicator) in spots where I used to get just a G.

I did see a 3G indicator at my office in Manhattan but also alternated with the U indicator.

Just trying to figure out what system I'm seeing now as indicated by the symbols in this ROM.

I'm having the same issue as well. My connection fluctuates just like that, on occasion. If I'm streaming something, my connection drops. It seems like a hand-off issue - but I'm really not sure.

.VIBE
02-03-2007, 08:45 AM
Man, this is unbelievable. was just about to start this thread when I refreshed, and ta daa! here it allready is.

I did not have the cingular ROM, but the AKU 3.3 Test, and I did not have these issues on that ROM. I recently upgraded to Radio .134 though, could that have an effect?

What do you guys think this is? Is UMTMS available, but actual connection is edge? why would that be? Or is it just a spelling mistake in the reg somewhere?

mrvanx
02-03-2007, 08:51 AM
My guess is the graphic for the indicator is being incorrectly seleced, the best test for which connection you are on is to do a speed test on bandwidthplace.com. Depending on what speed you actually get this will indicate the connection you are using.

EDIT:: According to wikipedia (yes i know....best i could find)

GPRS -> 30-40kbps
EDGE -> up to 236.8kbps
UMTS -> up to 384kbps
HSDPA -> (from my own experience) around the 1 to 1.5 mbps mark

(these might not be very accurate)

.VIBE
02-03-2007, 09:59 AM
OK, so how will we be posting this problem in the XDA Live problems thread? as an incorrect graphic or something else?

Being in SAfrica with our slow GPRS coms, I'd say this is one of 2 things:

1. graphical error : U should be E, as it is actually an edge connection
2. something else, should be G, but for some reason shows U with E over signal bar ????

shogunmark
02-03-2007, 01:56 PM
when i loaded the rom i was getting a U when i am actually on edge.. the phcanoverbmp.dll fixed this issue for me.. although this could have something to do with the ril.dll and rilgsm.dll ... out of curiosity which providers do you guys have?

mikegoldnj
02-03-2007, 02:55 PM
when i loaded the rom i was getting a U when i am actually on edge.. the phcanoverbmp.dll fixed this issue for me.. although this could have something to do with the ril.dll and rilgsm.dll ... out of curiosity which providers do you guys have?

I'm on Cingular in NJ.

where does the CAB file install the dll? Windows directory? I want to make sure it's where it should be.

shogunmark
02-03-2007, 03:54 PM
yes, that is where it should be.. i made the cab automatically install it there... this should work on cing/att on any radio after 1.30... im not sure about anything pre 1.27...

nskgti23
02-03-2007, 04:01 PM
I'm on Cingular in NJ.

where does the CAB file install the dll? Windows directory? I want to make sure it's where it should be.


I'm in NYC on Cingular and have the same issues. The cab didn't fix it for me either. I'm running Radio 1.35 (what ever was included w/ 2.06) and the XDA Live ROM.

flyboy009
02-03-2007, 04:18 PM
You wouldn't have radio 1.35 unless you installed that individually, its a trinity radio that has gps enable. If the last radio you did was included in the Cingular 2.06 ROM then you have 1.33 or 1.34. Though in the end I don't think this has an effect.

I have 2 main areas that I connect in, one is work (3G service) and home (Edge) on Cingular in Orlando. I will test this once I get home since that is the only place I get the big "U" and little "E" when connected.

shogunmark
02-03-2007, 04:25 PM
what i am stating is that through my own personal testing it seems as if the pre1.30 radio's reported differently on the cingular roms than the post 1.30 radios did... and this seems to be the difference on how the ril.dll and rilgsm.dll gets its information from the radio.. now the last time i spoke to kyphur he injected the rill.dll and rilgsm.dll from the cingular aku3.3 release into the WMXL, however im not sure if it was included with the latest release... if he did not include those in the release then the phcanoverbmp.dll might not function correctly..

nskgti23
02-03-2007, 04:27 PM
what i am stating is that through my own personal testing it seems as if the pre1.30 radio's reported differently on the cingular roms than the post 1.30 radios did... and this seems to be the difference on how the ril.dll and rilgsm.dll gets its information from the radio.. now the last time i spoke to kyphur he injected the rill.dll and rilgsm.dll from the cingular aku3.3 release into the WMXL, however im not sure if it was included with the latest release... if he did not include those in the release then the phcanoverbmp.dll might not function correctly..

Got ya... Well I will look for it in the .2 release or deal with it in until the final release. Either way the work that is coming off of this site is amazing.

Izzard-UK
02-03-2007, 05:37 PM
I don't like the way the indicator has changed either. On WM5 AKU 3.3 I got the following:

G = GPRS (worst signal - slow)
U = UTMS (3G area - upto about 360 kbps)
H = HSPDA (best signal area - upto about 900 kbps)

Now I've upgraded to XDA-Live I only ever get a G or a 3G. There's no way to tell if I'm going to get UTMS or HSPA speeds without testing. Before I could move around to find HSPDA easily.

This is on T-mobile UK. (Note: no "E" here. We don't get EDGE.)

mikegoldnj
02-03-2007, 05:55 PM
yes, that is where it should be.. i made the cab automatically install it there... this should work on cing/att on any radio after 1.30... im not sure about anything pre 1.27...

I did find the dll there.....I have radio 1.34 installed.

unfortunately not working for me. still have the problem.

I also see the following files: phcanhtc, phcanrc, phcanrc.dll.0409

shogunmark
02-03-2007, 06:11 PM
I did find the dll there.....I have radio 1.34 installed.

unfortunately not working for me. still have the problem.

I also see the following files: phcanhtc, phcanrc, phcanrc.dll.0409

those shouldnt make a difference.. however i can go ahead and make a cab that includes all three.. I will give warning though... one of those might cause the phone to not boot back up, SO make a back up before installing this as you might have to do a hard reset......

shogunmark
02-03-2007, 06:14 PM
***WARNING***

This cab may cause your phone not to reboot.. MAKE A BACKUP before installing. IF your phone does not reboot then you will need to do a hard reset..

mikegoldnj
02-03-2007, 06:33 PM
***WARNING***

This cab may cause your phone not to reboot.. MAKE A BACKUP before installing. IF your phone does not reboot then you will need to do a hard reset..

I appreciate the CAB file...but.......I really don't want to risk this right now. I will wait for the next version of the ROM and see what happens......

nskgti23
02-03-2007, 06:49 PM
***WARNING***

This cab may cause your phone not to reboot.. MAKE A BACKUP before installing. IF your phone does not reboot then you will need to do a hard reset..

What changes are made with this cab?

shogunmark
02-03-2007, 07:23 PM
What changes are made with this cab?
i added:
phcanhtc.dll
phcanrc.dll
phcanrc.dll.0409.mui (this is the one i think that might cause the crash, but im not sure)

**Kyphur**
If you are reading this can you tell me if the ril dll's that i sent you are being used in the current release?

coeptum
03-03-2007, 11:54 AM
In order to have G/E indicators instead of U, and also 3G, go to the registry in HKLM\security\ResOver\Bitmaps :
- change the value of BaseDLL from Net_Icon.dll in phcanOverbmp.dll
- add the value BaseId=0 (integer)

Then soft reset and voila !

shogunmark
03-03-2007, 01:56 PM
In order to have G/E indicators instead of U, and also 3G, go to the registry in HKLM\security\ResOver\Bitmaps :
- change the value of BaseDLL from Net_Icon.dll in phcanOverbmp.dll
- add the value BaseId=0 (integer)

Then soft reset and voila !

sometimes i go off on a weird tangent and forget the simple things... Thanks for posting that!

mikegoldnj
03-03-2007, 03:07 PM
sometimes i go off on a weird tangent and forget the simple things... Thanks for posting that!

I ran the Cingular PTT CAB from the extended ROM and got rid of the U and have 3G now but....I still have the mixed symbols.

Big 3G on the left, little E on the right, above the signal strength.

Checked the registry as indicated above and it already has those settings.

nskgti23
03-03-2007, 03:20 PM
In order to have G/E indicators instead of U, and also 3G, go to the registry in HKLM\security\ResOver\Bitmaps :
- change the value of BaseDLL from Net_Icon.dll in phcanOverbmp.dll
- add the value BaseId=0 (integer)

Then soft reset and voila !


Also any way to change it to H/U rather than 3G?

phamoui
03-03-2007, 04:50 PM
In my case here in Brazil I only get the "G" instead "E" - My carrier supports EDGE all over the network.

Any idea to get the "E" icon only?

wpbear
03-03-2007, 06:23 PM
In order to have G/E indicators instead of U, and also 3G, go to the registry in HKLM\security\ResOver\Bitmaps :
- change the value of BaseDLL from Net_Icon.dll in phcanOverbmp.dll
- add the value BaseId=0 (integer)

Then soft reset and voila !

I have installed the MT_PC_Hermes_PTT_REG_070129 and nothing else and it works fine. My registry says:

BaseDLL (String is blank)
BaseID (DWORD) 0

nallyvaico
03-03-2007, 07:35 PM
In my case here in Brazil I only get the "G" instead "E" - My carrier supports EDGE all over the network.

Any idea to get the "E" icon only?
Your radio version may be the culprit. I changed it from 1.20 to 1.27, then to 1.35, and they both worked - 1.20 didn't

TheMaster666
05-03-2007, 04:03 PM
Is that it?

1.27 and up is required to get this to work?

kyphur
05-03-2007, 04:49 PM
WMXL v0.20 will feature the ril set for PTT.

If these other dlls you listed are required to be changed for PTT then I can say 100% that PTT & Video Calling can't live together in the same Rom.

i added:
phcanhtc.dll
phcanrc.dll
phcanrc.dll.0409.mui (this is the one i think that might cause the crash, but im not sure)

**Kyphur**
If you are reading this can you tell me if the ril dll's that i sent you are being used in the current release?

Izzard-UK
05-03-2007, 07:59 PM
Also any way to change it to H/U rather than 3G?

I'd still like to know this, too. It was fine on AKU 3.3 - now I'm on XDA Live it's stuck on G or 3G.